not at the 23 million cap number? That’s the message I got from Gettleman in the press conference. Seems like they were OK with his performance this season, but they know they need to upgrade the position. They are ready to move on if he doesn’t rework his contract.
So what do you really expect to be debated?
TD : 3:15 pm : link : reply
We’re not winning shit this year. Might as well build the rest of the roster and draft a potential franchise QB this year or next. If he’s there this year, take him. If not, with only a cheap option at QB, it’s unlikely we’ll win many games and likely we’ll get a top pick in 2020 for a QB then.
if that isn't the definition of tanking, I don't know what is.....and what about all this talk this year of playing to win games to have a winning attitude? Then we wasted 5 wins....
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I’ll take this opinion to my grave and never waver
djm : 7:33 pm : link
In my view if the giants ask Eli to take a pay cut that means they simply don’t want him back next season. They can say or plead anything they want but it’s all bullshit. Asking a 15 year vet to take a paycut is a sure fire way of losing that player. And it’s just like the giants to play it this way if it were to go down like this. I’m nof buying that it will end this way but if the giants low ball Eli he’s going to quit in my view.
Seriously, who the F really cares if Eli 'quits'. You just saw what we are with Eli and arguably the best roster of skill position players in the league. 5-11 and 3-13. That's who fucking Eli is now.
Literally anyone else we plug in there next year after Eli quits can do 5-11 and 3-13. At 1/4 the cost. And maybe a QB with a dimension of escapability makes #13 and #26 that much more dangerous.
What is the downside of Eli quitting? 5-11 or 3-13? Been there, done that. At 38 with obvious limitations that defenses exploit on a week to week basis the change is coming and there is literally no downside to Eli quitting if he doesn't take a major paycut. Someone in the 'few more years' crowd please enlighten me as to what you are afraid of in terms of moving on from bottom 5 QB play at high salary? Trying to be civil, please do the same.
Who said I was mad if Eli quit? I said I felt that if the giants low ball Eli it’s just their way of saying they want to move on. I’m not sure what I “want” to see this offseason I just know I want to win.
Just save me the bullshit that the giants wanted Eli back if the paycut comes with it. That’s a load of PR crap.
Not saying Eli has been the problem, just that he hasn’t been the solution. And with each passing year, the chances of him being an important part of the solution diminish. As I’ve said repeatedly, I’d love to see him finish his career with an Elway-style flourish; but the team just isn’t there, aside from the Davis/Barkley parallel.
The one year that they weren't lower than 20th? 2016
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Team will waste a 1st round pick this year and draft a qb from this mediocre class. Then miss out on an actual franchise qb from next years draft.
Manning for another year, as this defense is about 5 players short of being good, then draft the qb next year.
Or sign foles, Manning is gone, and do above as well.
No vet qb available is really much of an upgrade (especially at the price they would command) over Manning. Unless Carr gets released and even he is more like a Kerry Collins then a elite.
2017 was supposedly a mediocre year for QBs. Thus far it is
Looking damn good. Let’s wait and see before saying there are no
QBs in this draft.
Good point.