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Britt in VA : 1/5/2019 12:55 pm
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The Pittsburgh Steelers and Ben Roethlisberger are expected to restructure and extend the veteran quarterback's deal before the new league year begins March 13, per league sources. More cap room if the team decides to trade WR Antonio Brown.
I’d like  
Joey from GlenCove : 1/5/2019 12:57 pm : link
To see what this looks like
Now let's do the same w Eli...  
JCin332 : 1/5/2019 12:59 pm : link
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This from PFT  
Jay on the Island : 1/5/2019 1:03 pm : link
James Jones, a former NFL wide receiver who’s now on NFL Network, said on the air that he has heard from multiple people on the Steelers that Roethlisberger’s needling of Brown has caused damage to their relationship, and it reached a boiling point last week.

“I have talked to a couple people in the Pittsburgh Steelers organization and they told me this has been lingering on,” Jones said. “I’ve been told in meetings [Roethlisberger] would take shots at AB. Like, ‘I don’t got to throw you the ball,’ and things like that. Wednesday in practice, I heard he ran the wrong route, Big Ben threw the ball on the ground, said, ‘Get him out of here. Get somebody else in there,’ and that’s when AB was at his boiling point and that’s when he went off.”

Jones suggested that Brown doesn’t respect Roethlisberger enough to talk face-to-face with him about their issues.

“I do think it’s hard to sit down and have a conversation with a man you do not respect or trust,” Jones said.
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christian : 1/5/2019 1:05 pm : link
It's really fascinating how quickly the Brown, Bell era in Pitt deteriorated.

Roeth is coming off arguably his best NFL season, extending him is a no brainer.
So who’s the next victim  
dep026 : 1/5/2019 1:16 pm : link
Of his assholeness?
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dep026 : 1/5/2019 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14248187 christian said:
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It's really fascinating how quickly the Brown, Bell era in Pitt deteriorated.

Roeth is coming off arguably his best NFL season, extending him is a no brainer.


Not sure if this was his best season. He’s not the same QB on the road.
RE: So who’s the next victim  
Blue21 : 1/5/2019 1:19 pm : link
In comment 14248196 dep026 said:
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Of his assholeness?


I agree. If this is true. Big Ben is a bigger jerk than I thought. Now I'm really glad Giants didn't draft him.
Not defending AB  
UConn4523 : 1/5/2019 1:20 pm : link
but Ben seems like the epitome of a tool, as if the raping wasn’t enough.
What a bunch of babies  
Eli Wilson : 1/5/2019 1:22 pm : link
Roeth being a douche and Brown not man enough to have a meaningful conversation with him about it.
Put two assholes on the same team  
djm : 1/5/2019 1:24 pm : link
This is what usually happens. No one cared when the Steelers were winning 10-12 games but once they lost in the playoffs there would be noise. Then the noise went away during the successful regular season. Now that they missed the playoffs the noise gets louder. Funny how that works.

Pitt won’t just dump brown. Which means he’s probably a Steeler next season.
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Toth029 : 1/5/2019 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14248187 christian said:
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It's really fascinating how quickly the Brown, Bell era in Pitt deteriorated.

Roeth is coming off arguably his best NFL season, extending him is a no brainer.

They passed the ball more than anybody. Not exactly the most favorable results. Led the league in INT's which happens but you have incredible talent in that offense.

They won more games when they committed to running the ball.
RE: What a bunch of babies  
Canton : 1/5/2019 1:30 pm : link
In comment 14248205 Eli Wilson said:
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Roeth being a douche and Brown not man enough to have a meaningful conversation with him about it.


Meaningful? With a fucking prick who shows zero respect, for one of the greatest wideouts in the game?

Let Brown have his trade, and let's see what kind of numbers Ben could put up next year.
4th in total QBR  
Les in TO : 1/5/2019 1:36 pm : link
Led Steelers to 9-6-1 and incredibly the Steelers haven’t had a losing season since he’s come into the league. No brainer to extend
Brown is a such a baby!  
ZogZerg : 1/5/2019 1:38 pm : link
A little child in an adult body.

Big Ben deserves the extension. He has been playing really good ball.
RE: RE: What a bunch of babies  
Eli Wilson : 1/5/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14248214 Canton said:
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In comment 14248205 Eli Wilson said:


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Roeth being a douche and Brown not man enough to have a meaningful conversation with him about it.



Meaningful? With a fucking prick who shows zero respect, for one of the greatest wideouts in the game?

Let Brown have his trade, and let's see what kind of numbers Ben could put up next year.


I have to have meaningful conversations all the time at work with people who are complete asses or that I don't respect. Be a freaking grownup and do your job.

Someone needs to be the bigger man there.

RE: 4th in total QBR  
Toth029 : 1/5/2019 1:57 pm : link
In comment 14248222 Les in TO said:
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Led Steelers to 9-6-1 and incredibly the Steelers haven’t had a losing season since he’s come into the league. No brainer to extend

Easily could have beaten Cleveland in Week 1. Except he had 5 turnovers.

Could have easily beaten OAK if he didn't "Ben" his way through two quarters.

Denver game he tried to pass constantly on the GL and they lost when he threw a pick to a DL.

Lost to the Ravens when Ben decides to throw 47 times and scoring 14 points. Connor ran nine times.

The Steelers did BETTER when they than the ball. That's a fact. Stop passing so much and they could have easily been in the playoffs. That team was way too good to miss it. And he was a reason why they did.
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christian : 1/5/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14248212 Toth029 said:
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In comment 14248187 christian said:


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It's really fascinating how quickly the Brown, Bell era in Pitt deteriorated.

Roeth is coming off arguably his best NFL season, extending him is a no brainer.


They passed the ball more than anybody. Not exactly the most favorable results. Led the league in INT's which happens but you have incredible talent in that offense.

They won more games when they committed to running the ball.


He threw the ball nearly 700 times, 16 ints, whether it led the league this year or not isn't a bad number.

He's a much, much more efficient QB than he was earlier in his career. He's not getting sacked 40 times a year, fumbling a ton. He started 16 games for only the 4th time in his career.

Bottomline he threw the ball 675 times, for 5K yards, a good completion percentage, and set a career high in TDs.

No commentary on his attitude, the state of the team etc., but pretty clear to me it was a career year.
Ben is still playing at a high level  
JonC : 1/5/2019 2:04 pm : link
Eli is visibly declining, especially without enough help around him.
The only thing Ben and Eli have in common at this stage  
TD : 1/5/2019 2:19 pm : link
Is the year they were drafted. Ben is still a top 5-10 QB. Eli is solidly bottom 10-15.

Please stop with the “now let’s extend Eli” nonsense.
RE: The only thing Ben and Eli have in common at this stage  
Les in TO : 1/5/2019 2:41 pm : link
In comment 14248266 TD said:
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Is the year they were drafted. Ben is still a top 5-10 QB. Eli is solidly bottom 10-15.

Please stop with the “now let’s extend Eli” nonsense.
yup
Well interesting that one of the few times in his career  
JCin332 : 1/5/2019 2:46 pm : link
Ben didn't have a top 10 defense this year and no playoffs...amazing how that works...
Makes sense.  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/5/2019 2:51 pm : link
Ben is still very good.
RE: Well interesting that one of the few times in his career  
Ssanders9816 : 1/5/2019 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14248296 JCin332 said:
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Ben didn't have a top 10 defense this year and no playoffs...amazing how that works...


You can say the same exact thing about Eli. And pretty much every QB in the league. Brilliant observation though.
The only difference is Eli has had much worse  
JCin332 : 1/5/2019 3:04 pm : link
defenses over his career than Ben...in fact some historically bad not to mention much much worse OL's...

But thanks for you comment...
Plays with a ton of talent around  
dep026 : 1/5/2019 3:43 pm : link
Cannot be overlooked. And if they trade Brown...
Ben’s teams still win generally..  
Sean : 1/5/2019 3:43 pm : link
For as bad as their collapse was, they still were right there in NO & they beat the Pats late. Went 9-6-1 & Ben threw for over 5000 yards.

The Giants went 5-11.
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christian : 1/5/2019 3:48 pm : link
The Steelers were half a game out of the playoffs, have a good running back, a great WR, and a QB coming off a 5K season.

They are in a window now.

Roethlisberger is a year younger and has literally a full season less wear on his arm. Extending him is so, so much different than Manning.
Ben helps  
Les in TO : 1/5/2019 3:58 pm : link
His defense by extending drives on offense and keeping them rested.
Pittsburg's Defense ranked 6th in yrds/allowed  
Jimmy Googs : 1/5/2019 4:07 pm : link
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RE: Now let's do the same w Eli...  
MookGiants : 1/5/2019 4:20 pm : link
In comment 14248177 JCin332 said:
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Why would the Giants even think about doing the same with Eli?

This team has zero chance to win a title next year. Extending Eli would be a fireable offense
Happy New Year Mook...  
JCin332 : 1/5/2019 4:30 pm : link
but with all due respect you think Gentleman should have been fired after he didn't select Darnold...

By restructuring Eli they free up cap money to build the trenches...and flexibility for 2020...
I always..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/5/2019 4:32 pm : link
have to admire the long troll:

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Ben helps
Les in TO : 3:58 pm : link : reply
His defense by extending drives on offense and keeping them rested.


It has reached well past dragging the eagle status at this point.
RE: Pittsburg's Defense ranked 6th in yrds/allowed  
JCin332 : 1/5/2019 4:42 pm : link
In comment 14248384 Jimmy Googs said:
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Not sure if this was in reply to what I said above but I was referring to Pts Allowed/Game....Pitt ranked #16 and Giants #23...

In Yds/Allowed yes Pitt was ranked 6th and Giants were 24th...even bigger gap there...
RE: Ben is still playing at a high level  
Giantophile : 1/5/2019 4:54 pm : link
In comment 14248248 JonC said:
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Eli is visibly declining, especially without enough help around him.


Yeah sadly it's true. Ben is a much better QB (when healthy) at this point. Not even close.
Ben's team had the 6th ranked Defense and he  
Jimmy Googs : 1/5/2019 5:15 pm : link
didnt make the playoffs. Thats the statement.
RE: Ben helps  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/5/2019 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14248368 Les in TO said:
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His defense by extending drives on offense and keeping them rested.


Are you fucking stupid?
RE: The only difference is Eli has had much worse  
Ssanders9816 : 1/5/2019 6:13 pm : link
In comment 14248320 JCin332 said:
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defenses over his career than Ben...in fact some historically bad not to mention much much worse OL's...

But thanks for you comment...


Not during the championship runs. The defense held the best offense in NFL history to 14 points...
Wrong  
JohnF : 1/5/2019 6:38 pm : link
From Pro-Football Reference Defensive Rankings:

2007, NY Giants Defense ranked 17th out of 32 teams for the year.

2011, NY Giants Defense ranked 25th out of 32 teams for the year.

Yes, both years the Defense went on runs the end of the year, but over Eli's the career, he's only had two years where the Defense cracked the top 10...2016 and 2008. All other years were 13th or worst, often in the 20's, and for at least two years, close to last.
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