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16 years ago since the SF meltdown-

Sean : 1/5/2019 8:51 pm
I was just reminded of this scrolling through my Twitter feed. I donít think this is a painful memory (looking back) for a few reasons:

1. It led to Coughlin
2. It led to Eli
3. We got them back in 2011 (a far more significant game).

In a lot of ways this game had a tremendous impact on NYG history. They likely wouldnít have beaten TB, but getting to the divisional round likely would have changed the timeline for Fassel/Collins.

I remember that offseason was all about special teams & defensive line. I believe we drafted Osi in that 2003 draft. Perhaps the SF loss bled into 2003, but if it did it was a major blessing. We hire Coughlin, draft Eli & the rest is history.
Agghhhh  
jnoble : 1/5/2019 8:54 pm : link
I still get angry all over again reliving that game

Grrrrrr.
Giants were playing well  
GoBlue6599 : 1/5/2019 8:57 pm : link
Maybe Iím just a homer but I think that team couldíve beaten Tampa who had a great D and average O. The Giants offense was on fire Shockey Amani and Tiki were red hot... the refs robbed the Giants
It was a horrible loss...  
EricJ : 1/5/2019 9:16 pm : link
put all of the sugar on it that you want. We had a decent team that year and then came up with an epic choke in the playoffs.
RE: It was a horrible loss...  
My Ears Trophy : 1/5/2019 9:21 pm : link
In comment 14248883 EricJ said:
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put all of the sugar on it that you want. We had a decent team that year and then came up with an epic choke in the playoffs.


Yup. Another dumb Giants loss. Them imploding at the end of the games has become so boring as to the point where you are 0% shocked.
I made the mistake of watching this game with my girlfriend  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/5/2019 9:24 pm : link
at the time. Boy, was that stupid. She literally never looked at me the same after this day. We had been together for a year at this point, and we broke up 8 months later. I think the seeds to our breakup were planted while watching this game together. I'm not even joking.
It was the most  
bigbluehoya : 1/5/2019 9:26 pm : link
Emotional negative reaction Iíve had to a sporting event in my life.

Nothing over the top, but that game had me in a truly weird place for a few weeks. I felt nothing.

Iím thankful that sports donít have that power over me anymore. It wasnít enjoyable.

We sure do  
bceagle05 : 1/5/2019 9:27 pm : link
have the highest of highs and the lowest of lows as Giants fans. Nothing worse than reaching that part of the meltdown when you KNOW it's a lost cause.
Three reasons for the loss...  
EricJ : 1/5/2019 9:27 pm : link
1. mid way through the 3rd, we decide to stop trying to move the ball. We basically started loading the bus to head to the airport.
2. We started playing that too familiar prevent defense
3. The defense also lost all composure. Multiple stupid personal foul calls due to lack of discipline. Virtually no leadership at that time.
16 years...holy shit  
Capt. Don : 1/5/2019 9:30 pm : link
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What meltdown?  
mattlawson : 1/5/2019 9:48 pm : link
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long live  
Chip : 1/5/2019 10:07 pm : link
zak DeOssie
The whole team melted down.....  
Doomster : 1/5/2019 10:16 pm : link
Shockey dropped the td.....

The DL was gassed chasing Garcia.....

Shaun Williams imploded.....

And the defense allowed not one, but two, two point conversions.....

While we will remember the Junkin faux pas(how many remember he had another bad snap a couple minutes earlier that resulted in a missed fg?), I will never forget the Shockey dropped td in the 3rd quarter, that led to a fg.....we never scored again....that drop just took the air out of the offense...
Thanks for  
MTN-G-man : 1/5/2019 10:49 pm : link
dragging my memory back to that dark day.
No amount of booze could help me sleep that night  
Ssanders9816 : 1/5/2019 10:51 pm : link
Thanks for the reminder
I still don't know..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/5/2019 10:52 pm : link
how they didn't realize they made a correctable error and call the teams back to re-kick.

One of the biggest travesties ever. Refs knew they had screwed up and did absolutely nothing to fix it
Trey Junkin  
B in ALB : 1/5/2019 11:00 pm : link
Took a world of shit for years thanks to the refs complete and utter incompetence and unwillingness to correct a correctable mistake. Such a shame.
the thing I remember was how quickly  
bluepepper : 1/5/2019 11:01 pm : link
the Niners were back in it. 38-14 and like 5 minutes of play later it was a one score game at 38-30. The two point conversions were killers.
RE: It was the most  
jnoble : 1/5/2019 11:04 pm : link
In comment 14248911 bigbluehoya said:
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Emotional negative reaction Iíve had to a sporting event in my life.

Nothing over the top, but that game had me in a truly weird place for a few weeks. I felt nothing.

Iím thankful that sports donít have that power over me anymore. It wasnít enjoyable.


I drove home from my uncles house in a silent rage. No radio post game show, no music. Just seething clenched jaw rage.
That game went from drinking for a  
St. Jimmy : 1/5/2019 11:06 pm : link
party to drowning your sorrows.
That TB team was not that good  
gmenatlarge : 1/5/2019 11:32 pm : link
Brad Johnson at QB but a very good defense, the Raiders gave away 5hat SB with Gruden knowing every play before they ran it!
I literally spent the..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/5/2019 11:34 pm : link
next two hours convinced the league would step in and force the teams to replay the kick since it was a correctable error (and there is actually a section in the rulebook that allows it).

Talk about being a delusional fuckface.
Also, thinking about the things I said during that game,  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/5/2019 11:38 pm : link
if I put them into text form and posted them on here; I'd be banned immediately. No doubt about it.
I'm still pissed  
AcesUp : 1/5/2019 11:42 pm : link
That they didn't call pass interference on that broken play.

I'm not old enough to understand the late 80s teams but thats easily the best Giants team I've seen get bounced from the playoffs. They were good enough to win the conference and SB that year which made the collapse hurt more.
worst loss for me  
Banks : 1/6/2019 2:12 am : link
Maybe we would have lost to Tampa, but I didn't sweat playing them. Eagles? Corrupt officiating and 4 Tiki fumbles kept them from being trounced in the season finale. Raiders would have been tough, but I think that would have been a shootout. We had a legit chance at winning the SB.
it still burns me  
Allen in CNJ : 1/6/2019 7:27 am : link
that that penalty on the botched FG WASN'T called. Terrible. Still makes me nauseous!
RE: I still don't know..  
Matt M. : 1/6/2019 7:39 am : link
In comment 14249121 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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how they didn't realize they made a correctable error and call the teams back to re-kick.

One of the biggest travesties ever. Refs knew they had screwed up and did absolutely nothing to fix it
This is what bothers me more than the meltdown itself.
I was pissed Fassel didn't keep everybody on the field  
Jimmy Googs : 1/6/2019 7:42 am : link
until he exhausted his cause. I still think he left too early because he and the players were embarrassed they let the game get to that point.

May not have gotten the un-timed rekick but my view nevertheless...
Boy I was a Neanderthal  
crick n NC : 1/6/2019 8:18 am : link
Of a fan and a human then. The amount of power a football game had on me was quite pathetic. I have come at least a little way since then.

As for that giant team. It took me a while to realize how flawed that team was. The nineties nyg offenses were so bad that I became happy if the giants offense could put up yards. The 02 team certainly put up some yards but last in the league in red zone scoring. While it's fun to entertain that team's chances TB would have been a horrible matchup for that Giants' team. Could they have won? Sure, anything is possible, but not always likely.
Undisciplined yet exciting was probably the phrase to describe them  
Jimmy Googs : 1/6/2019 8:33 am : link
they could win a lot of one on one matchups and make big plays. But they put the ball in harms way too much on OFfense and didn't play enough steady team ball on defense (do your job stuff).

Funny looking back on it  
Chris684 : 1/6/2019 9:15 am : link
as an 18 year old kid when sports were literally your world and it was so much more personal.

I carried a print out in my pocket from whatever website it was for about a week, that summarized how badly the refs botched the game and how there should have been one more untimed down for NYG to attempt the FG again. I pulled it out any time anyone who didnít like the Giants broke my balls.



Not happy how I acted after that game...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/6/2019 9:17 am : link
Broke a remote & went for like a 3 hour walk to calm down.
RE: I literally spent the..  
bradshaw44 : 1/6/2019 9:19 am : link
In comment 14249265 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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next two hours convinced the league would step in and force the teams to replay the kick since it was a correctable error (and there is actually a section in the rulebook that allows it).

Talk about being a delusional fuckface.


I had this thought as well. I kept thinking this canít be over, someone has to do something, this isnít right.
RE: I made the mistake of watching this game with my girlfriend  
bradshaw44 : 1/6/2019 9:22 am : link
In comment 14248906 Dave in Hoboken said:
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at the time. Boy, was that stupid. She literally never looked at me the same after this day. We had been together for a year at this point, and we broke up 8 months later. I think the seeds to our breakup were planted while watching this game together. I'm not even joking.


Ha ha. Iíve told this story before but what the heck. My now ex gf of 16 years absolutely hated football and the fact that I loved the Giants. When the Giants were up big late in the third she called an congratulated me. I said to her, ďYou just fucking jinxed them and you did it on purpose. When they lose Iím never going to speak to you again.Ē And as they say, the rest was history.
I started driving home from my parents place  
MBavaro : 1/6/2019 9:24 am : link
at the beginning of the 4th quarter. Listened to the rest of the game on the radio.

After the botched FG, I smartly decided to pull onto the brakedown lane and sat there for a while.

I was so amped up and pissed, I probably would have caused an accident if I hadn't.........
RE: I started driving home from my parents place  
bradshaw44 : 1/6/2019 10:37 am : link
In comment 14249443 MBavaro said:
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at the beginning of the 4th quarter. Listened to the rest of the game on the radio.

After the botched FG, I smartly decided to pull onto the brakedown lane and sat there for a while.

I was so amped up and pissed, I probably would have caused an accident if I hadn't.........


So you had a mental in the brake down lane? Ironic!
RE: RE: I started driving home from my parents place  
MBavaro : 1/6/2019 11:35 am : link
In comment 14249542 bradshaw44 said:
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In comment 14249443 MBavaro said:


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at the beginning of the 4th quarter. Listened to the rest of the game on the radio.

After the botched FG, I smartly decided to pull onto the brakedown lane and sat there for a while.

I was so amped up and pissed, I probably would have caused an accident if I hadn't.........



So you had a mental in the brake down lane? Ironic!


You know, I never thought of it that way. You're right! : )
RE: Also, thinking about the things I said during that game,  
djm : 1/6/2019 7:18 pm : link
In comment 14249271 Dave in Hoboken said:
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if I put them into text form and posted them on here; I'd be banned immediately. No doubt about it.


Me too.
Whenever I see an ATL  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 1/7/2019 8:09 am : link
28-3 meme... I remember this game and feel their pain. 20 years old watching this in the barracks. Was this the year that Fassel guaranteed the playoffs and took over play calling from Peyton or was that the SB year?
I've never had a more emotional outbreak than after  
TheMick7 : 1/7/2019 8:18 am : link
this game. Started drinking even more heavily as the Niners launched their comeback. At the end, I took another 6 pack,went onto my deck outside in shorts & a tee shirt(It was freezing out w/snow on the ground),screaming for the next hour. My then wife just looked at me through the sliding glass doors,laughing hysterically and that only pissed me off more. One of the worst hangovers I can ever remember! lol
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