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NFL mock draft 1.0: Giants trade up for QB

GFAN52 : 1/5/2019 9:12 pm
Steve Serby's mock draft.

1. Cardinals - Nick Bosa (DE, Ohio State)
2. Giants (from 49ers) - Dwayne Haskins (QB, Ohio State)
3. Jets - Quinnen Williams (DL, Alabama)
4. Raiders - Clelin Ferrell (DE, Clemson)
5. Buccaneers - Ed Oliver (DT, Houston)
6. 49ers (from Giants) - Greedy Williams (CB, LSU)


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RE: RE: RE: I’m Jones over Haskins  
section125 : 1/6/2019 2:48 pm : link
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Jones Reminds me of Mitch Trubisky. And while the opinions on Trubisky are split (I personally like him and expect him to continue to improve) Id thin a lot of you would take a Trubisky like talent to start 2019.



No effin way would I take Trubisky.

you wouldn’t want a 24 yr old mobile QB with the 3rd highest QBR behind only Mahomes and Brees? Interesting.


Not him, nope.
RE: BBI at 9:20 PM if this happens.  
montanagiant : 1/6/2019 2:52 pm : link
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LOL....Exactly on point and I would be one of them
RE: RE: RE: RE: I’m Jones over Haskins  
GoDeep13 : 1/6/2019 3:02 pm : link
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Jones Reminds me of Mitch Trubisky. And while the opinions on Trubisky are split (I personally like him and expect him to continue to improve) Id thin a lot of you would take a Trubisky like talent to start 2019.



No effin way would I take Trubisky.

you wouldn’t want a 24 yr old mobile QB with the 3rd highest QBR behind only Mahomes and Brees? Interesting.



Not him, nope.
so you wouldn’t take Trubisky over Eli or all the FA QBs or the Draft QBs this year? Good thing you just watch football.
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Dutch77 : 1/6/2019 3:03 pm : link
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So let me get this. Giants are going to trade up from 6 to 2 that will cost them a lot of capital in draft picks which we need, for a QB that at best is a middle first round pick. Come on wake up people. This aint happening Haskins may be the best QB in the draft but he is not a sure thing by far. If you watch the games sure he looks great, standing in the pocket for 10-15 seconds showing poise and then throwing a pass to a wide open WR. Fact is this is not reality. Ohio State talent is heads above most opponents they play. This is not the NFL. he is raw and unproven. Would like to see what he can do when he actually gets rushed and has a hand in his face. If DG did this then he really should be fired.



Bruner, I asked a previous poster to name a college QB prospect that they evaluated that they feel was a better prospect that performed well under pressure (No reply yet). I’d like to ask you the same question?

I think Jones has made a number of very good plays under pressure. The but he can’t both throw AND catch the ball. His WRs were trash.


What game or games did Jones face this past year where you say he performed well under duress?
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GoDeep13 : 1/6/2019 3:31 pm : link
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So let me get this. Giants are going to trade up from 6 to 2 that will cost them a lot of capital in draft picks which we need, for a QB that at best is a middle first round pick. Come on wake up people. This aint happening Haskins may be the best QB in the draft but he is not a sure thing by far. If you watch the games sure he looks great, standing in the pocket for 10-15 seconds showing poise and then throwing a pass to a wide open WR. Fact is this is not reality. Ohio State talent is heads above most opponents they play. This is not the NFL. he is raw and unproven. Would like to see what he can do when he actually gets rushed and has a hand in his face. If DG did this then he really should be fired.



Bruner, I asked a previous poster to name a college QB prospect that they evaluated that they feel was a better prospect that performed well under pressure (No reply yet). I’d like to ask you the same question?

I think Jones has made a number of very good plays under pressure. The but he can’t both throw AND catch the ball. His WRs were trash.



What game or games did Jones face this past year where you say he performed well under duress?
the Miami game immediately comes too mind. Absolutely disgusting conditions to throw the ball agains a power school that vastly outmatches them in talent. His o-line was mandhandled and his receivers dropped like 6 big passes.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I’m Jones over Haskins  
section125 : 1/6/2019 3:33 pm : link
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so you wouldn’t take Trubisky over Eli or all the FA QBs or the Draft QBs this year? Good thing you just watch football.


Eli, maybe. Look Trubisky is nothing special, IMV. If you like him fine.
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GoDeep13 : 1/6/2019 3:36 pm : link
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so you wouldn’t take Trubisky over Eli or all the FA QBs or the Draft QBs this year? Good thing you just watch football.



Eli, maybe. Look Trubisky is nothing special, IMV. If you like him fine.
there are we don’t need special. We need effective.
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GoDeep13 : 1/6/2019 3:37 pm : link
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so you wouldn’t take Trubisky over Eli or all the FA QBs or the Draft QBs this year? Good thing you just watch football.



Eli, maybe. Look Trubisky is nothing special, IMV. If you like him fine.

we don’t need special. We need effective.
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section125 : 1/6/2019 3:39 pm : link
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so you wouldn’t take Trubisky over Eli or all the FA QBs or the Draft QBs this year? Good thing you just watch football.



Eli, maybe. Look Trubisky is nothing special, IMV. If you like him fine.

we don’t need special. We need effective.



Not with a 1st round pick. Lauletta could do that.
RE: Giants do need a replacement for Eli;  
DonnieD89 : 1/6/2019 3:43 pm : link
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however, I don’t am not even sure Haskins is valued by the Giants at #6. Evaluating this year’s strengths and weaknesses, the most glaring need is a pass rusher and right tackle. I would even go as far as saying the most important need is Edge Rusher. This is the strength of this year‘s draft, and the Giants cannot afford to forfeit any draft picks in the future, based on the lack of talent at many positions currently. I totally disagree with trading up to get Haskins at #6.


Dutch, with all due respect, it would cost an arm and a leg to get a premium edge rusher through free agency. How is that working out with Oliviier Vernon? The Giants lost their ballgames in the second half of the season, because of a crappy defense with no pass rush. I firmly believe that DG and PS are very cognizant about the QB situation and where it is heading. They also are very much aware of the lack of talent In the trenches on both sides. You can’t force a draft pick at any position, including QB. I like what I see in Haskins, but as it is pointed out, how is he against a pass rush under pressure? We don’t have enough information to determine that. That is for the scouts to determine though. If DG in PS like him, they will take him.
RE: RE: Stupid article  
Bruner4329 : 1/6/2019 6:25 pm : link
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So let me get this. Giants are going to trade up from 6 to 2 that will cost them a lot of capital in draft picks which we need, for a QB that at best is a middle first round pick. Come on wake up people. This aint happening Haskins may be the best QB in the draft but he is not a sure thing by far. If you watch the games sure he looks great, standing in the pocket for 10-15 seconds showing poise and then throwing a pass to a wide open WR. Fact is this is not reality. Ohio State talent is heads above most opponents they play. This is not the NFL. he is raw and unproven. Would like to see what he can do when he actually gets rushed and has a hand in his face. If DG did this then he really should be fired.



Bruner, I asked a previous poster to name a college QB prospect that they evaluated that they feel was a better prospect that performed well under pressure (No reply yet). I’d like to ask you the same question?


In this year's upcoming draft none. But that is my point these guys including Haskins are over rated because all people see are him throwing the ball with a clean pocket 99% of the time. Last year I thought Mayfield had exhibited the most pre draft and from what I have seen I think he will be the best of the bunch. IMO jury still out on others. After today I really wonder if Jackson has all the tools to be a good NFL QB. All he has going for him are his legs.
Why has no one  
kes722 : 1/6/2019 7:37 pm : link
Talked about Lock?
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