Watched 4/5 Buffalo games this year. He had NFL talent on outside which is huge advantage in MAC. Josh Allen is a better athlete with better arm talent. I thought Jacksons deep ball accuracy left a lot to be desired. Josh Allen actually has pretty good deep ball accuracy its the short and intermediate stuff he needs work on where as Jackson is opposite.
although if we went the developmental route (versus taking more of a known quantity who can step in more quickly), I'd prefer this guy to Lauletta. He's got clear ability, just a matter of if he can grow into being a NFL QB. The raw talent is there.
but lost that as season went on. His whiteboard is gonna be huge for him. Does well there and I could see Shurmur buying in, he did like Allen after all. If hes there in 4th could see them making another flier.
that were projected to go in rounds 1-3 were Justin Herbert and Tyree Jackson. I know that the Giants don't have a 3rd but they could trade for one and if Jackson is there in round 3 I would be all for a trade up. They would get a year to redshirt Jackson and evaluate him. Using a 3rd on him won't prevent them from going after Tua, Fromm, Herbert etc next year if they aren't happy with Jackson's progress.
Every time I watch games of college QB's declaring, I think; "I can't evaluate this when they have so much time in the pocket." Every time.
I don't know how scouts do it.
These QB's stay flat footed for like 2 seconds in the pocket while they scan the field, then move their feet.
I agree...if you watch the highlight film he makes only one read and throws. Not going to happen every play in the NFL. However you can see the athleticism he has.
Assuming Eli is back the Giants are the perfect landing spot for Jackson. He would serve as the #3 QB all year and get to learn how to prepare and break down film with Eli.
There's a reason NFL players stay within certain parameters. Beyond those parameters, you're just a bigger target. And longer legs mean more leverage/stress if they get bent the wrong way.
Kevin Knox of Knicks was a very good HS QB from a football family. But he had to switch sports because he was getting too tall for his own safety.
There's a reason NFL players stay within certain parameters. Beyond those parameters, you're just a bigger target. And longer legs mean more leverage/stress if they get bent the wrong way.
Kevin Knox of Knicks was a very good HS QB from a football family. But he had to switch sports because he was getting too tall for his own safety.
This exactly. He has a tall, gangly, spindly frame, with a very high center of gravity. That makes him a bigger target to hit whose body can be bent in awkward positions. He looks like a taller version of RGII. He's also a complete project that's at least two years away, despite his physical tools.
I agree with whoever said that he's basically making only one read on most throws. That does' mean he can't make multiple reads, but it's something he'll have to learn, along with getting stronger and adjusting to the speed of the game.
I'd pass until day three, and he'll likely be gone by then.
Here is a brief highlight video of Jackson. He is the ball of clay that Shurmur would love to develop. Link - ( New Window )
I don't know anything about scouting or Buffalo but watching that clip, almost every throw was outside the numbers or close to it. Doesn't he like going down the middle? Strange.
Here is a brief highlight video of Jackson. He is the ball of clay that Shurmur would love to develop. Link - ( New Window )
I still think it would be a mistake to take a QB based primarily upon who Shurmur would like to work with. For all we know, Shurmur will suck enough again to be fired after 2019.
developing QBs the last two years, sure, let's go for another one.
Yeah so let's just give up on ever trying again because of another Reese bust and because Lauletta didn't set the world on fire during his rookie season.
Here is a brief highlight video of Jackson. He is the ball of clay that Shurmur would love to develop. Link - ( New Window )
I still think it would be a mistake to take a QB based primarily upon who Shurmur would like to work with. For all we know, Shurmur will suck enough again to be fired after 2019.
Where did I say to "take a QB based primarily upon who Shurmur would like to work with?" I was saying that Shurmur has proven to be good at maximizing QB's strengths and that he hasn't had a raw talent like Jackson. I am all for waiting until 2020 to target Fromm, Tua, etc but Jackson is very intriguing.
I don't know how scouts do it.
These QB's stay flat footed for like 2 seconds in the pocket while they scan the field, then move their feet.
Here is a brief highlight video of Jackson. He is the ball of clay that Shurmur would love to develop.
Link - ( New Window )
I don't know how scouts do it.
These QB's stay flat footed for like 2 seconds in the pocket while they scan the field, then move their feet.
I agree...if you watch the highlight film he makes only one read and throws. Not going to happen every play in the NFL. However you can see the athleticism he has.
Assuming Eli is back the Giants are the perfect landing spot for Jackson. He would serve as the #3 QB all year and get to learn how to prepare and break down film with Eli.
There's a reason NFL players stay within certain parameters. Beyond those parameters, you're just a bigger target. And longer legs mean more leverage/stress if they get bent the wrong way.
Kevin Knox of Knicks was a very good HS QB from a football family. But he had to switch sports because he was getting too tall for his own safety.
There's a reason NFL players stay within certain parameters. Beyond those parameters, you're just a bigger target. And longer legs mean more leverage/stress if they get bent the wrong way.
Kevin Knox of Knicks was a very good HS QB from a football family. But he had to switch sports because he was getting too tall for his own safety.
This exactly. He has a tall, gangly, spindly frame, with a very high center of gravity. That makes him a bigger target to hit whose body can be bent in awkward positions. He looks like a taller version of RGII. He's also a complete project that's at least two years away, despite his physical tools.
I agree with whoever said that he's basically making only one read on most throws. That does' mean he can't make multiple reads, but it's something he'll have to learn, along with getting stronger and adjusting to the speed of the game.
I'd pass until day three, and he'll likely be gone by then.
Here is a brief highlight video of Jackson. He is the ball of clay that Shurmur would love to develop. Link - ( New Window )
I don't know anything about scouting or Buffalo but watching that clip, almost every throw was outside the numbers or close to it. Doesn't he like going down the middle? Strange.
Here is a brief highlight video of Jackson. He is the ball of clay that Shurmur would love to develop. Link - ( New Window )
I still think it would be a mistake to take a QB based primarily upon who Shurmur would like to work with. For all we know, Shurmur will suck enough again to be fired after 2019.
Dude looks legit, but WTH do I know.
Yeah so let's just give up on ever trying again because of another Reese bust and because Lauletta didn't set the world on fire during his rookie season.
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I would seriously consider taking him in round 2.
Here is a brief highlight video of Jackson. He is the ball of clay that Shurmur would love to develop. Link - ( New Window )
I still think it would be a mistake to take a QB based primarily upon who Shurmur would like to work with. For all we know, Shurmur will suck enough again to be fired after 2019.
Where did I say to "take a QB based primarily upon who Shurmur would like to work with?" I was saying that Shurmur has proven to be good at maximizing QB's strengths and that he hasn't had a raw talent like Jackson. I am all for waiting until 2020 to target Fromm, Tua, etc but Jackson is very intriguing.