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Deandre Baker

Ned In Atlanta : 1/6/2019 9:47 pm
I know a lot of the pre draft talk seems to be two camps: OL/DL or qb. I realize that a successor to Eli and beefing up the fronts are priority 1 and 1A. With that being said, Iím hopping they donít force a qb pick here. From all accounts the 2020 qb class will be very good with Herbert, Fromm and Tua. I know DG never trades down, but stocking up on draft ammo for next year could reap major rewards. And while DL and edge rusher is a dire need, an aging Janoris Jankins, BW Webb and young unknowns like Haley and Sam Beal wonít get mistaken for the legion of boom. Living in Athens and being married to a Georgia alum and diehard dawgs fan I watch a lot of football. Deandre Baker is an absolute stud, future lockdown corner IMO. Would a trade down and selection of him be a remote thrower for BBI?
Would not be a horrible idea  
MookGiants : 1/6/2019 9:50 pm : link
but would require this regime conceding that this team can't compete in 2018 and having a long term approach. I don't see that happening.
CB  
MookGiants : 1/6/2019 9:52 pm : link
is a huge need for this team right up there with QB and DE. CB is a bigger problem for the future than even OL is
RE: Would not be a horrible idea  
Ned In Atlanta : 1/6/2019 9:53 pm : link
In comment 14251522 MookGiants said:
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but would require this regime conceding that this team can't compete in 2018 and having a long term approach. I don't see that happening.



Touchť. So pumped for another ďretool not rebuildĒ
the smart move  
MookGiants : 1/6/2019 9:55 pm : link
would be to punt 2019. Gettleman is unlikely to want to do that and I can guarantee Shurmur wont, because he knows he'll be out of a job.

Start Lauletta for 16 games and go 3-13 and get one of the top QBs next year
I donít agree with creating a losing culture.  
DonnieD89 : 1/6/2019 10:08 pm : link
This team did very well in getting together and creating a good locker room vibe. Going 3-13 again would be a disaster.
Face facts,  
Doomster : 1/6/2019 10:09 pm : link
with all these holes, it's STILL a rebuild.....
Even if we traded down  
Dutch77 : 1/6/2019 10:40 pm : link
Why would you want to waste a 1st round pick on a Corner when there a more pressing needs? And as for the not wanting to reach for a QB this year, how do you expect to get one of those 2020 QBís without having another 3-13, 5-11 season or giving up future picks to get into the top 10?
RE: I donít agree with creating a losing culture.  
MookGiants : 1/6/2019 10:41 pm : link
In comment 14251546 DonnieD89 said:
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This team did very well in getting together and creating a good locker room vibe. Going 3-13 again would be a disaster.


They were 5-11. They need better players, period. If they had a good locker room this year it certainly didn't have a positive impact on their actual record.

They are losing because they have a shit roster, not because of a losing culture. Quickest way to create a winning culture is to get better players
RE: RE: I donít agree with creating a losing culture.  
Dutch77 : 1/6/2019 10:52 pm : link
In comment 14251584 MookGiants said:
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This team did very well in getting together and creating a good locker room vibe. Going 3-13 again would be a disaster.



They were 5-11. They need better players, period. If they had a good locker room this year it certainly didn't have a positive impact on their actual record.

They are losing because they have a shit roster, not because of a losing culture. Quickest way to create a winning culture is to get better players

So letís say we pass on the QB and go nothing but defense and O-line and they hit on half of their 11 draft picks. Is it safe to assume with better players and another year in Shurmurís system with a slightly improved defense that we win at least 8 games next year which puts us right around 18. How and when are we ever going to upgrade the QB position?
RE: RE: I donít agree with creating a losing culture.  
DonnieD89 : 1/6/2019 11:22 pm : link
In comment 14251584 MookGiants said:
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This team did very well in getting together and creating a good locker room vibe. Going 3-13 again would be a disaster.



They were 5-11. They need better players, period. If they had a good locker room this year it certainly didn't have a positive impact on their actual record.

They are losing because they have a shit roster, not because of a losing culture. Quickest way to create a winning culture is to get better players


Yes they have a shitty roster and at the same time were in most ballgames. They have a chance to get better this coming year by building on top of what they have and improving upon their roster. Tanking is a shitty way to build, which creates shitty attitudes and more turnover. These are professionals and they are paid to win, not to tank. I donít give a flying fuck about 5-11 right now. Itís going in the right direction and will get better. That is my point.
I know DG does not like the word rebuild  
DonnieD89 : 1/6/2019 11:39 pm : link
Frankly, it is a rebuild. Itís going to take time. Tanking does not solve everything. What if they tank for next year and select a QB, while current good players contracts come up and they decides not to be on a losing team and go to a SB contender? Premier FAs donít want to come to a losing team also.
RE: the smart move  
micky : 1/7/2019 12:22 am : link
In comment 14251531 MookGiants said:
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would be to punt 2019. Gettleman is unlikely to want to do that and I can guarantee Shurmur wont, because he knows he'll be out of a job.

Start Lauletta for 16 games and go 3-13 and get one of the top QBs next year


And build up draft picks..to work on both lines as well as back 7 of D
I wouldnít hate it  
GoDeep13 : 1/7/2019 2:27 am : link
As Baker is my personal favorite Corner in this draft. But Allen, Ferrell, Deionte Thompson, Cody Ford, and Devin White are all guys if take ahead of him.
The last woman who was drafted  
Big Blue '56 : 1/7/2019 7:08 am : link
was Terry Glenn
RE: I wouldnít hate it  
Ned In Atlanta : 1/7/2019 7:08 am : link
In comment 14251653 GoDeep13 said:
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As Baker is my personal favorite Corner in this draft. But Allen, Ferrell, Deionte Thompson, Cody Ford, and Devin White are all guys if take ahead of him.



I would love Devin White. Jealous watching the cowboys play with super athletic linebackers
RE: the smart move  
FStubbs : 1/7/2019 7:19 am : link
In comment 14251531 MookGiants said:
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would be to punt 2019. Gettleman is unlikely to want to do that and I can guarantee Shurmur wont, because he knows he'll be out of a job.

Start Lauletta for 16 games and go 3-13 and get one of the top QBs next year


If the GM decided to punt 2019 he's not going to fire the coach.
RE: CB  
BillT : 1/7/2019 7:26 am : link
In comment 14251526 MookGiants said:
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is a huge need for this team right up there with QB and DE. CB is a bigger problem for the future than even OL is

Donít really see this. With Jenkins, Beal and the emergence of Grant, CB is hardly bereft of talent. Canít see the team using a #1 there.
I like Baker a lot, but not at 6  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 1/7/2019 8:35 am : link
Perfect guy if they traded down into the teens.
I'm a huge Dawg fan as well,  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 1/7/2019 9:04 am : link
and Baker is going to be a stud. If we move down a few spots and pick up a 2nd or 3rd I wouldnt kill that that move.

But the Giants need a pass rusher bad.
RE: RE: CB  
CromartiesKid21 : 1/7/2019 9:47 am : link
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is a huge need for this team right up there with QB and DE. CB is a bigger problem for the future than even OL is


Donít really see this. With Jenkins, Beal and the emergence of Grant, CB is hardly bereft of talent. Canít see the team using a #1 there.


Also Gettleman is known for devaluing CBs as compared to investing in the DL. He cut Josh Norman to pay star Last and Kawann Short
RE: RE: RE: CB  
CromartiesKid21 : 1/7/2019 9:49 am : link
In comment 14251827 CromartiesKid21 said:
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is a huge need for this team right up there with QB and DE. CB is a bigger problem for the future than even OL is


Donít really see this. With Jenkins, Beal and the emergence of Grant, CB is hardly bereft of talent. Canít see the team using a #1 there.



Also Gettleman is known for devaluing CBs as compared to investing in the DL. He cut Josh Norman to pay star Last and Kawann Short


*pay Star Lotulelei and Kawann Short

Stupid autocorrect
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