David Wright will assume a new role with the club as Special Advisor to #Mets COO Jeff Wilpon and Brodie Van Wagenen. In a related move, the organization and David mutually agreed to his release from the current roster.
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A sourced estimate for what a deGrom extension would look like is five years, $130-145 million. Per sources, there will a will on both sides to get a deal done.
But if anything over 1 WAR is considered very good (not counting closers) for relieves, I think youll see most teams have guys like Gsellman giving innings in the middle of a pen somewhere. Positive WAR, FIP in the 3s. Not a guy you want closing out games, obviously, but still some value there.
100% on board w/ Avilan but he did have a big drop in velocity last yr
I suspect that's why he didn't get a full MLB deal. Keep inviting guys to ST and see what happens. Like I said, add Blevins to the mix and hope 1 of these guys has enough left in a specialist role.
I do think they need 1 more back end option though beyond the lefty - Allen would be great. Brach is interesting and from the area I believe. Warren isn't a back end guy but he's pitched well on winning teams.
But if anything over 1 WAR is considered very good (not counting closers) for relieves, I think youll see most teams have guys like Gsellman giving innings in the middle of a pen somewhere. Positive WAR, FIP in the 3s. Not a guy you want closing out games, obviously, but still some value there.
Huh? Gsellman posted .3 fWAR in 2018. Where are you getting "anything over 1 WAR"? He's posted .9 fWAR over his last 2 seasons combined and FIP "in the 3's?" uh? His FIP the last 2 seasons has been 4.89 and 3.95. Are you looking at the wrong pitcher?
Smith and Daniel Zamora pitched 37 innings last year (combined) and put up a higher combined fWAR than Gsellman who threw 80 innings. Guess how many RP's posted a better FIP than Gsellman last year? 94 and fWAR? 95.
RE: 100% on board w/ Avilan but he did have a big drop in velocity last yr
I suspect that's why he didn't get a full MLB deal. Keep inviting guys to ST and see what happens. Like I said, add Blevins to the mix and hope 1 of these guys has enough left in a specialist role.
I do think they need 1 more back end option though beyond the lefty - Allen would be great. Brach is interesting and from the area I believe. Warren isn't a back end guy but he's pitched well on winning teams.
On board with bringing Blevins back too. Avilan is fine to have in the mix, but we gotta see if his stuff holds up in the spring. Would be nice to see how Blevins looks too.
Allen, Brach and Ottavino would all be nice additions. Please add one of them.
there is no sleeper internal option at AA/AAA. I guess Roseboom if you squint real hard but I don't see it at all. I wouldn't want to waste a Kay or Peterson like that.
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Why has there been so little talk of Luis Avilan as a LOOGY option? Career .213/.289/.292 vs. lefties #Mets
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I don't know why they haven't just traded Dom Smith for someone
reportedly really like Yandy (another guy I wanted the Mets to look at) so I'd be surprised if they gave up much for Dom. Yandy + Choi = no room at the inn. With McKay there too I don't think they would bother unless he were 100% dumped. Royals future at 1b is Pratto. He's at least 1 season away but O'Hearn was quietly awesome for them. Don't see either team as fits for Dom.
But if anything over 1 WAR is considered very good (not counting closers) for relieves, I think youll see most teams have guys like Gsellman giving innings in the middle of a pen somewhere. Positive WAR, FIP in the 3s. Not a guy you want closing out games, obviously, but still some value there.
Huh? Gsellman posted .3 fWAR in 2018. Where are you getting "anything over 1 WAR"? He's posted .9 fWAR over his last 2 seasons combined and FIP "in the 3's?" uh? His FIP the last 2 seasons has been 4.89 and 3.95. Are you looking at the wrong pitcher?
Not sure where you read me saying Gsellman had over a 1 win at all. I said if thats the bar for excellent (mostly backend and setup options) most guys in the middle will fall in the .1-.9 range. You arent going to find a single pen in baseball or in all if history with 7 guys over 1. I was agreeing that hes not special (I actually led with that) but every pen has Gsellmans in the middle somewhere. A guy thats positive WAR, FIP under 4, etc.
reportedly really like Yandy (another guy I wanted the Mets to look at) so I'd be surprised if they gave up much for Dom. Yandy + Choi = no room at the inn. With McKay there too I don't think they would bother unless he were 100% dumped. Royals future at 1b is Pratto. He's at least 1 season away but O'Hearn was quietly awesome for them. Don't see either team as fits for Dom.
How about Texas? Not sure he'd bring back Minor by himself, but maybe consider Minor isn't cheap.
but the sentence was very confusing to me. Gsellman is filler and the numbers say as much. I merely stated he's a bit overrated because 2016 he looked like a 2-3 SP in limited run and now he could retire tomorrow and they would be fine.
think the Rangers/Mets should link up in a Frazier/Dom to Texas deal.
Well that was a well timed post. Frazier actually helps save some money too. That would make sense all around, though I doubt they move Frazier and do think he's a positive value piece.
but the sentence was very confusing to me. Gsellman is filler and the numbers say as much. I merely stated he's a bit overrated because 2016 he looked like a 2-3 SP in limited run and now he could retire tomorrow and they would be fine.
I agree with that. And my wording was confusing. Sorry.
reportedly really like Yandy (another guy I wanted the Mets to look at) so I'd be surprised if they gave up much for Dom. Yandy + Choi = no room at the inn. With McKay there too I don't think they would bother unless he were 100% dumped. Royals future at 1b is Pratto. He's at least 1 season away but O'Hearn was quietly awesome for them. Don't see either team as fits for Dom.
How about Texas? Not sure he'd bring back Minor by himself, but maybe consider Minor isn't cheap.
Texas has multiple "extra" pieces and needs a 3b. They have no clear answer at 1b either so I think these 2 teams line up nicely (and we know they have had conversations). Find it hard to believe the Mets are willing to pay Mike Minor what he has owed to him at this point. I think more likely some of there lesser depth pieces.
there has to be a team willing to give up a decent reliever for him. Royals? Rays?
I think they are trying to trade him but you gotta find a taker. He had such an awful year in the PCL (playing mostly 1B) last year with another 300+ awful MLB ABs to boot (2017-2018) that I can't imagine getting an MLB contributer for him.
IMO, rather than sell him at his absolute worst, I'd send him to Syracuse and see if he can get his career on track. He's still young enough that it's not completely hopeless. If he ends up raking he can be Alonso insurance or then be traded in-season for a reliever.
Oddly enough, the kid hit the ball hard without enough true power at the lower minor levels but then sort of reversed and now seems to have legit power but completely awful contact ability. Maybe there's an adjustment or two that he can make to have some success.
was an article last year that basically said Dom Smith's approach was THE WORST in baseball in 2018. That being said, sticking him in Syracuse wouldn't be the end of the world.
And can atucally fair decently as a crossover guy as well. Can get a little wild at times but shocked we got him for so cheap/non roster invitee.
Look at his velocity numbers.
Yeah not sure what the issue is there? Was he nursing something? Still under 30 and Loogys generally dont need to throw that hard. Love the pickup. No risk.
Blevins had no velocity issues, just had a crap year. Relievers are just volatile, that's why I think it's usually worth paying for 1 more premium reliever than you think you need. The 2016's where the 2 key guys pitch great and stay healthy are less common than the 2017/2018's where there's an injury or two.
Allen had a run of being damn good for 5 years straight
Gagnon, Peterson, Rhame, Sewald, Flexen. They have room to operate if they chose to.
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A sourced estimate for what a deGrom extension would look like is five years, $130-145 million. Per sources, there will a will on both sides to get a deal done.
I do think they need 1 more back end option though beyond the lefty - Allen would be great. Brach is interesting and from the area I believe. Warren isn't a back end guy but he's pitched well on winning teams.
Huh? Gsellman posted .3 fWAR in 2018. Where are you getting "anything over 1 WAR"? He's posted .9 fWAR over his last 2 seasons combined and FIP "in the 3's?" uh? His FIP the last 2 seasons has been 4.89 and 3.95. Are you looking at the wrong pitcher?
I do think they need 1 more back end option though beyond the lefty - Allen would be great. Brach is interesting and from the area I believe. Warren isn't a back end guy but he's pitched well on winning teams.
On board with bringing Blevins back too. Avilan is fine to have in the mix, but we gotta see if his stuff holds up in the spring. Would be nice to see how Blevins looks too.
Allen, Brach and Ottavino would all be nice additions. Please add one of them.
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But if anything over 1 WAR is considered very good (not counting closers) for relieves, I think youll see most teams have guys like Gsellman giving innings in the middle of a pen somewhere. Positive WAR, FIP in the 3s. Not a guy you want closing out games, obviously, but still some value there.
Huh? Gsellman posted .3 fWAR in 2018. Where are you getting "anything over 1 WAR"? He's posted .9 fWAR over his last 2 seasons combined and FIP "in the 3's?" uh? His FIP the last 2 seasons has been 4.89 and 3.95. Are you looking at the wrong pitcher?
Not sure where you read me saying Gsellman had over a 1 win at all. I said if thats the bar for excellent (mostly backend and setup options) most guys in the middle will fall in the .1-.9 range. You arent going to find a single pen in baseball or in all if history with 7 guys over 1. I was agreeing that hes not special (I actually led with that) but every pen has Gsellmans in the middle somewhere. A guy thats positive WAR, FIP under 4, etc.
How about Texas? Not sure he'd bring back Minor by himself, but maybe consider Minor isn't cheap.
Well that was a well timed post. Frazier actually helps save some money too. That would make sense all around, though I doubt they move Frazier and do think he's a positive value piece.
I agree with that. And my wording was confusing. Sorry.
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reportedly really like Yandy (another guy I wanted the Mets to look at) so I'd be surprised if they gave up much for Dom. Yandy + Choi = no room at the inn. With McKay there too I don't think they would bother unless he were 100% dumped. Royals future at 1b is Pratto. He's at least 1 season away but O'Hearn was quietly awesome for them. Don't see either team as fits for Dom.
How about Texas? Not sure he'd bring back Minor by himself, but maybe consider Minor isn't cheap.
Texas has multiple "extra" pieces and needs a 3b. They have no clear answer at 1b either so I think these 2 teams line up nicely (and we know they have had conversations). Find it hard to believe the Mets are willing to pay Mike Minor what he has owed to him at this point. I think more likely some of there lesser depth pieces.
Look at his velocity numbers.
I think they are trying to trade him but you gotta find a taker. He had such an awful year in the PCL (playing mostly 1B) last year with another 300+ awful MLB ABs to boot (2017-2018) that I can't imagine getting an MLB contributer for him.
IMO, rather than sell him at his absolute worst, I'd send him to Syracuse and see if he can get his career on track. He's still young enough that it's not completely hopeless. If he ends up raking he can be Alonso insurance or then be traded in-season for a reliever.
Oddly enough, the kid hit the ball hard without enough true power at the lower minor levels but then sort of reversed and now seems to have legit power but completely awful contact ability. Maybe there's an adjustment or two that he can make to have some success.
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And can atucally fair decently as a crossover guy as well. Can get a little wild at times but shocked we got him for so cheap/non roster invitee.
Look at his velocity numbers.
Yeah not sure what the issue is there? Was he nursing something? Still under 30 and Loogys generally dont need to throw that hard. Love the pickup. No risk.