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..the most impressive stat may have been that he wasn’t sacked, surprising considering Ohio State’s offensive line had been riddled with leaky protection and pre-snap penalties all season. That was aided by Haskins, who didn’t miss a single blitz pick-up call. Ohio State coaches estimated after the game that Brown blitzed about 75 percent of the plays. And Haskins had an answer for all of them, whether pre-snap with an identification or rolling out to buy time and avoid pressure. It was a savvy performance that belied this being only his 12th career start. |
NOTHING.
NOTHING.
Pre-snap penalties put you behind the chains in down/distance which creates obvious passing situations which in turn lead to more pressure/sacks.
Gettleman is an elite scout and will easily pass.
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Gettleman is an elite scout and will easily pass.
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This dupe blows
The guy simple won't be a good poster on BBI
Eric and Gary and BoldRuler are elite mods and will easily ban.
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The guy simply won't be a good QB in the NFL
Gettleman is an elite scout and will easily pass.
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This dupe blows
The guy simple won't be a good poster on BBI
Eric and Gary and BoldRuler are elite mods and will easily ban.
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Ad hominem attack.
Imagine Gettleman watching tape and having a high draft grade on Haskins.
Couldn't be me.
I couldn't be THAT delusional and THAT stupid.
Gettleman is an elite scout and will easily pass.
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Thank God you remembered to remind us on this thread as well!
Brown telegraphed his blitzing in the Ohio State game because his front four couldn't get there. Most reasonably shrewd viewers could see the tip offs. And why couldn't Michigan get there? Because Ohio State's OL can pass block and they were very, very good all year. They gave Haskins a comfortable pocket all year, which is a key reason why Haskins was so productive.
Haskins is not a mobile QB but he's also not a statue at all. He reminds me a lot of Roethlisberger in college but obv played against much tougher competition.
Brown telegraphed his blitzing in the Ohio State game because his front four couldn't get there. Most reasonably shrewd viewers could see the tip offs. And why couldn't Michigan get there? Because Ohio State's OL can pass block and they were very, very good all year. They gave Haskins a comfortable pocket all year, which is a key reason why Haskins was so productive.
Michigan has never disguised blitzes. They jsut bullrush and use their speed to create pressure. Their goal of blitzing is so that you couldnt double Gary/Winovich. The problem was those 2 were dominated.
Seriously, Haskins wasnt even touched. It looked like he was playing Eastern Michigan.
It was like he had an entire line of John Jerry clones in front of him - that's how otherworldly his protection was.
What tools?
Physically slow.
Mentally slow.
Awful deep ball.
Dink and dunker to wide open receivers.
Horrendous under the slightest hint of pressure.
Propped up by Urban Meyer's elite QB-friendly system, that historically has produced QB busts in the NFL.
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If we take him, its because the Giants did their research and feel as though he can be the guy. I am not sure he is - but at least I can admit that he has intriguing tools that can get a fan excited about.
What tools?
Physically slow.
Mentally slow.
Awful deep ball.
Dink and dunker to wide open receivers.
Horrendous under the slightest hint of pressure.
Propped up by Urban Meyer's elite QB-friendly system, that historically has produced QB busts in the NFL.
You have no idea how funny it is that you have the audacity to refer to anyone as "mentally slow."
I wasn't too big on Haskins before - but he's making me rethink that pretty quickly. If this shitty dupe/troll hates him this much, I kind of hope he winds up here.
Pretty sure it's the John Jerry troll.
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you guys want another era of immobile QB? I personally don't want another statue under center.
Haskins is not a mobile QB but he's also not a statue at all. He reminds me a lot of Roethlisberger in college but obv played against much tougher competition.
This is interesting, I’ve heard him compared to Ben by others. Hes tough time to get a read on, a lot of talent around him, very qb friendly system, limited experience .
The Giants would have had to to their homework on him to take him at 6. Sometime tells me if they didn’t like any of the qbs available at 2 last year, that they aren’t drafting Haskins at 6.
My personal opinion is that Lock is the best of the bunch. He seems very much like a Giants qb, but even I don’t see him at 6. He’s probably somewhere in the 15-20 range, unless he really overly impresses at the combine.
I wasn't too big on Haskins before - but he's making me rethink that pretty quickly. If this shitty dupe/troll hates him this much, I kind of hope he winds up here.
You can hope all you want - I hope I get a billion dollars - But I can promise you with 100% certainty that the Giants will NOT draft Dwayne Haskins.
That, I put on my grandmother's grave.
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you guys want another era of immobile QB? I personally don't want another statue under center.
Haskins is not a mobile QB but he's also not a statue at all. He reminds me a lot of Roethlisberger in college but obv played against much tougher competition.
This is interesting, I’ve heard him compared to Ben by others. Hes tough time to get a read on, a lot of talent around him, very qb friendly system, limited experience .
The Giants would have had to to their homework on him to take him at 6. Sometime tells me if they didn’t like any of the qbs available at 2 last year, that they aren’t drafting Haskins at 6.
My personal opinion is that Lock is the best of the bunch. He seems very much like a Giants qb, but even I don’t see him at 6. He’s probably somewhere in the 15-20 range, unless he really overly impresses at the combine.
Bingo!
You said it.
If the Giants passed on Darnold/Allen/Rosen last year, why the hell would they reach for an inferior QB this year?
Makes 0 sense whatsoever.
Simply asinine.
He's Byron Leftwich 2.0
Everything he does is slow.
You don't get the triple metaphor?
1) Tom Coughlin - Put some Respek on the Integrity of the Pocket
2) Jerry Reese - Lazy, simplistic scouting; extremely narrow-minded view on football
3) Ben McAdoo - Ponzi Scheme centered around John Jerry's 1 skill (the perfect short-set for a RG)
He's Byron Leftwich 2.0
Everything he does is slow.
But... he's not slow. He's not a Lamar Jackson burner, but he can scramble. He picked up a decent amount of 1st downs in the Washington game. I bet he clocks in at around 4.7 or so once the combine rolls around. Ben ran a 4.75.
And the deep ball? He's got a better deep ball than all of the qbs that came out last year minus probably Allen. He's got a really terrific arm that can make all of the throws.
You're off base here. If he was lumped in with last year's QBs, he's probably the third best prospect behind Darnold and Baker. Doesn't have the injury concerns that Rosen had and is a more polished passer than Allen.
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Is nothing like Big Ben. Other than both are big, that's it. The way they play QB are not similar at all.
He's Byron Leftwich 2.0
Everything he does is slow.
But... he's not slow. He's not a Lamar Jackson burner, but he can scramble. He picked up a decent amount of 1st downs in the Washington game. I bet he clocks in at around 4.7 or so once the combine rolls around. Ben ran a 4.75.
And the deep ball? He's got a better deep ball than all of the qbs that came out last year minus probably Allen. He's got a really terrific arm that can make all of the throws.
You're off base here. If he was lumped in with last year's QBs, he's probably the third best prospect behind Darnold and Baker. Doesn't have the injury concerns that Rosen had and is a more polished passer than Allen.
No way is Haskins a better prospect than Allen. Allen had freakish arm talent, power runs like Cam Newton, and ran a Pro-style NFL offense. Haskins runs a junk offense that doesn't translate to the NFL