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B in ALB : 1/8/2019 9:39 am
Not sure how I feel about this one after hearing the weatherman's apology. It doesn't seem like he meant to say the word - and why would he do it anyways? This guy's life is ruined.
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Beezer you're missing just how ridiculous  
PaulBlakeTSU : 1/8/2019 1:28 pm : link
his comment is.

He's saying that the people who think it was a case of this guy merely being tongue-tied instead of a self-sabotaging racist are the ones showing their true colors-- that those people are not only racists, but they are just as bad as people who defend a serial child molester.
RE: Beezer you're missing just how ridiculous  
Beezer : 1/8/2019 1:34 pm : link
In comment 14254248 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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his comment is.

He's saying that the people who think it was a case of this guy merely being tongue-tied instead of a self-sabotaging racist are the ones showing their true colors-- that those people are not only racists, but they are just as bad as people who defend a serial child molester.


Ha. Paul, no ... I didn't miss it. I'm just merely in a bit of disbelief, and would like to hear more. Hoping he backs himself out of that ... or dives headlong. Just curious to know more. Like some would crane their neck to see more passing by a particularly bad-looking highway car wreck.
anyone looking for MotownGiants to make sense  
LG in NYC : 1/8/2019 1:44 pm : link
must be new to BBI?

His posts have always required a secret decoder ring.
No way to know  
mattlawson : 1/8/2019 2:00 pm : link
But the social hysteria on both sides is ridiculous.
RE: I don't rememer any other eras of divisiveness in this country  
FStubbs : 1/8/2019 2:26 pm : link
In comment 14253947 pjcas18 said:
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because I was too young (Vietnam, etc.) but did the mobs rule then too?

I don't remember seeing corporations or public facing organizations of any type cave so easily to mobs before.

Is it social media? Is it always this way in periods of divide?

just curious really.


The country was always this divided. What's happening now is that people who were forced into silence can speak out.
Not surprised this group would try to take a pass for this guy  
HomerJones45 : 1/8/2019 2:35 pm : link
the same group that bashed Dominick the Donkey and Peppino the Italian Mouse and insulted the memory of the great Lou Monte.

Racists.
It always leads me to a time of reflection when I read  
Snifflenick : 1/8/2019 2:54 pm : link
unfortunate incidents like this. I have no idea what the intent of this man was. His apology seemed sincere and I accept it, providing no more evidence comes to light that would lead me to think otherwise.

When I was a young man, my family would often eat dinners in my parents living room, around the TV, always watching our beloved Giants on Sunday afternoon/evening. I remember a showing of an "All in the Family" episode that followed one game. It was a great put down of Archie and his racist instincts, however a softer more inclusive side of him was highlighted, making viewers wonder if he really meant some of the outrageous things he said, or was just blowing off steam, as many did back then.

Our country has come so far since those earlier days and we have made progress, with certainly more to achieve. I am saddened that we have not progressed with the vitriolic instant guilt we assign others, often who we do not even know.

The comment on this weather show was repugnant and should not be heard om any show by anyone today. All sides have made similar mistakes (if this in fact was). I however will not indict this man, losing one's career and facing such public scorn saddens me, seeming punitive acts that do not show maturation and forgiveness, again so far without further evidence, but bitter partisan vitriol. Just my two cents.

RE: anyone looking for MotownGiants to make sense  
Mr. Bungle : 1/8/2019 2:59 pm : link
In comment 14254277 LG in NYC said:
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must be new to BBI?

His posts have always required a secret decoder ring.

+1

Motown has a long, proud tradition on BBI of making absolutely zero sense.
curious....  
BillKo : 1/8/2019 3:01 pm : link
.....didn't read the article - only saw the video - what was hi apology like?

I ask because if it was an actual mess up, I hope he apologized in that way - insisting it was a mistake. Not that he was sorry and it won't happen again.

Also - what's the guy's history? Good colleague? Never posts similar stuff on social media? Generally well liked by all?

Clearly..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/8/2019 3:11 pm : link
Motown wouldn't have fired the guy:

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This is just as bad as people
MotownGIANTS : 12:41 pm : link : reply
trying to defend R. Kelly .... smh but hey let your true colors shine through.


He'd give him one bad ass eye stoving to remember!!
By the way..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/8/2019 3:14 pm : link
can we find a single, non-relative who is defending R. Kelly??

Is there some groundswell of support for him that I missed?
RE: curious....  
Mad Mike : 1/8/2019 3:16 pm : link
In comment 14254370 BillKo said:
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.....didn't read the article - only saw the video - what was hi apology like?

I ask because if it was an actual mess up, I hope he apologized in that way - insisting it was a mistake. Not that he was sorry and it won't happen again.

Said he was speaking too quickly and got tongue tied, didn't even realize how it had come out, and would never have said anything like that. He wasn't apologizing for a word slip, he was explaining that the words of MLK's name simply got jumbled up as he was speaking, and it came out wrong.
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Giants in 07 : 1/8/2019 3:21 pm : link
In comment 14254068 Les in TO said:
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He meant to say it, he misspoke, and he is secretly a racist and lets his inner alt-right loony shine through when he's not careful.

What weatherman would knowingly say a racial epithet on a local newscast? Nobody. He didn't mean to say.

There are plenty of secret racists out there, but does anyone really think he would subconsciously slip an epithet into MLK's name on a local newscast? Hard to believe.

Or did he get his tongue tied and misspeak, like hundreds of people before him on live television? I think this is clearly the obvious answer. He has a lot more in common with the "Boom goes the dynamite" guy than Steve Bannon. Come on, folks...

I don’t believe he intended to say it however given that it is an epithet used to describe MLK, I understand why people are upset that he said it. Just as some posters here would be offended if a reporter accidentally said Ronald Retard Reagan park or George White Trash WBush park


Huh?

It's at the very very least plausible that a person would say "king Junior" quickly enough where it comes out sounding like "Coon"..

It is not plausible by any stretch of the imagination that a person would say "white trash" when saying W Bush or 'retard' when saying Reagan. Those are completely different sets of sounds. You can't be serious.
RE: RE: So tired of all of this Shyte  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/8/2019 3:27 pm : link
In comment 14253979 giant24 said:
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This guy gets canned, yet I see TV shows like "Blackish" & "The Neighborhood" use the words like "Cracka", "honkey" & "White boy" freely & without ridicule... One for all, all for one - But my opinion is that we all need to STOP being so damn overly sensitive!!!

The reality though, keeping this pot stirred keeps folks like Al Sharpton current & feed$ their wallet$.




Yep how far the pendulum has swung back - Lebron James calls NFL owners "old white guys" with "slave mentalities" and not a peep from the media but this guy stutters and gets his life ruined. Fact that Al Sharpton even has a show on MSNBC after all the racist remarks he's made through the years shows what a double standard there is.

I wish I could bet on things like "over/under on how long it will take giant24 to weigh in on a topic regarding race" or "guess how long it will take giant24 to somehow claim that white men are oppressed."
Giants in 07  
bigbluehoya : 1/8/2019 3:28 pm : link
clearly he just had some views he wanted to get off his chest. This was his opportunity to do so while toe-ing the line on the site rules.

Not a good use of your time.
RE: RE: RE: So tired of all of this Shyte  
Bill L : 1/8/2019 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14254422 Gatorade Dunk said:
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This guy gets canned, yet I see TV shows like "Blackish" & "The Neighborhood" use the words like "Cracka", "honkey" & "White boy" freely & without ridicule... One for all, all for one - But my opinion is that we all need to STOP being so damn overly sensitive!!!

The reality though, keeping this pot stirred keeps folks like Al Sharpton current & feed$ their wallet$.




Yep how far the pendulum has swung back - Lebron James calls NFL owners "old white guys" with "slave mentalities" and not a peep from the media but this guy stutters and gets his life ruined. Fact that Al Sharpton even has a show on MSNBC after all the racist remarks he's made through the years shows what a double standard there is.


I wish I could bet on things like "over/under on how long it will take giant24 to weigh in on a topic regarding race" or "guess how long it will take giant24 to somehow claim that white men are oppressed."

but given the context of the thread (being bullshit, unwarranted outrage), he's pretty much in context with his bullshit, unwarranted, outrage. No non-sequitur this time.
Everyone knows the guy never meant to say that...  
EricJ : 1/8/2019 3:30 pm : link
it sucks that people think the guy should be fired for something like that.
What  
PaulN : 1/8/2019 3:45 pm : link
Did he say, I listened 5 times and do not get it. I just hear a guy stumbling on words, almost like he got tongue tied. What I don't get was exactly what was the big insult? I don't get it.
I looked  
PaulN : 1/8/2019 3:47 pm : link
back and got the answer, sorry, but I just couldn't make it out. He got fired for that, anyone who thinks they know what he meant are nuts.
RE: I took a quick look at this guy's  
mattyblue : 1/8/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14254074 B in ALB said:
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facebook page to watch his apology and by all accounts he looks like a good guy, with a family, etc. Almost everyone is supporting him and those who know him personally from his time in Louisville and Rochester all talk about how great of a guy he is. If all that's true, it's pretty shameful that his life has been turned upside down by what seems like an innocent mistake. The social justice mob was quick to jump all over this one. Might be a record.


Well said B. This seems like a mistake and if I heard it on TV as it was, I wouldn’t have noticed it. I would have noticed that he jumbled his words, but I would not have picked up on what the mob is claiming he said. In his apology he seemed sincere and he looks pretty torn up by it.
I live in Rochester where this happened.  
Steve L : 1/8/2019 4:04 pm : link
A good chunk of the people I know, both black and white, are behind this guy. He’s pretty respected in the area with no history of this. Our mayor, Lovely Warren, is quite well known for stunts like this. It’s terrible that he made such a slip, but even worse that he was immediately fired.

The ironic part is that the city council member that originally brought it up is a former Rochester weather man and said that most broadcasts are ad libbed and mistakes happen, but this one is unforgivable. Jerk.
Common sense is dead  
Dave in PA : 1/8/2019 4:17 pm : link
He clearly jumbled up the K in King with the UN from Junior. Started one word and transitioned the rest of it from the following word. Mistakes happen. Seems like most people find this absurd, but for anyone that thinks firing this man is warranted please just explain why he would sabatoge his career and potentially endanger his family to slip in some “racial slur” on a local weather broadcast? This is so dumb it hurts my brain.
It doesn't have..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/8/2019 4:20 pm : link
to make sense. Susie just needs to give some validation to Facebopok outside of lining up several pieces of candy in a row.

Atrocities like this can't go uncommented on!!
RE: I mean , I get the sympathy for the guy but  
santacruzom : 1/8/2019 4:42 pm : link
In comment 14253804 Heisenberg said:
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How do you accidentally say "Martin Luther Coon King"?


I could see it... King is followed by Junior which produces the oooo sounds, and sometimes, your speaking mechanism just gets all discombobulated.
RE: And sadly,  
santacruzom : 1/8/2019 4:47 pm : link
In comment 14253860 Beezer said:
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quite sure some politicos who have idiotic followings will loudly proclaim that justice was served and that "we" won't stand for this type of blatant racism anymore.

Disgusting.


Well, let's not get to the emotional response of "disgusted" to something before it's actually happened and is still merely a hypothetical.
RE: RE: RE: So tired of all of this Shyte  
giant24 : 1/8/2019 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14254422 Gatorade Dunk said:
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This guy gets canned, yet I see TV shows like "Blackish" & "The Neighborhood" use the words like "Cracka", "honkey" & "White boy" freely & without ridicule... One for all, all for one - But my opinion is that we all need to STOP being so damn overly sensitive!!!

The reality though, keeping this pot stirred keeps folks like Al Sharpton current & feed$ their wallet$.




Yep how far the pendulum has swung back - Lebron James calls NFL owners "old white guys" with "slave mentalities" and not a peep from the media but this guy stutters and gets his life ruined. Fact that Al Sharpton even has a show on MSNBC after all the racist remarks he's made through the years shows what a double standard there is.


I wish I could bet on things like "over/under on how long it will take giant24 to weigh in on a topic regarding race" or "guess how long it will take giant24 to somehow claim that white men are oppressed."


Dude really? Am I not allowed to have an opinion on race? I see lots of other posters on here that have commented on other race related posts, why single me out. Why don't you just come out and say what you're really thinking?
RE: I looked  
Mad Mike : 1/8/2019 5:08 pm : link
In comment 14254452 PaulN said:
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back and got the answer, sorry, but I just couldn't make it out. He got fired for that, anyone who thinks they know what he meant are nuts.

I couldn't make it out either, though once I read what it was, I can kind of hear it. That doesn't absolve him imo. If I were going to try to sneak in dirty word, I'd probably say it super quick and a little hard to catch too. But the context of his history, and the fact that it's a plausible thing to misspeak, should.
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Mad Mike : 1/8/2019 5:09 pm : link
In comment 14254532 giant24 said:
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Dude really? Am I not allowed to have an opinion on race? I see lots of other posters on here that have commented on other race related posts, why single me out. Why don't you just come out and say what you're really thinking?

Yeah, it's sure a puzzlement.
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giant24 : 1/8/2019 5:36 pm : link
In comment 14254542 Mad Mike said:
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Dude really? Am I not allowed to have an opinion on race? I see lots of other posters on here that have commented on other race related posts, why single me out. Why don't you just come out and say what you're really thinking?


Yeah, it's sure a puzzlement.


He's actually not the first weatherman to make that mistake  
Knineteen : 1/8/2019 5:49 pm : link
Jumbling the words "King Junior" can easily produce the word "coon". But then again, that doesn't make for a good news story.
It's a stretch  
compton : 1/8/2019 7:14 pm : link
to imagine that was an honest slip up. My guess, it was a Freudian slip from someone who is familiar with the substitution of King with the racial epithet. Sorry folks, coon is not a word that rolls of the lips.
RE: It's a stretch  
Mr. Bungle : 1/8/2019 7:20 pm : link
In comment 14254654 compton said:
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to imagine that was an honest slip up. My guess, it was a Freudian slip from someone who is familiar with the substitution of King with the racial epithet. Sorry folks, coon is not a word that rolls of the lips.

Not a stretch at all. When you have the consecutive syllables "king" and "june" you could accidentally say "jing" or "kune" with absolutely no nefarious intentions whatsoever.

And to fire someone over it is abusive beyond words.
RE: It's a stretch  
UConn4523 : 1/8/2019 7:22 pm : link
In comment 14254654 compton said:
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to imagine that was an honest slip up. My guess, it was a Freudian slip from someone who is familiar with the substitution of King with the racial epithet. Sorry folks, coon is not a word that rolls of the lips.


I think speech professionals would greatly disagree with you. I listen to people in my office, clients and friends get tongue tied on a daily basis, most of the time it sounds like slop but sometimes it sounds like a legitimate word. I think this is pretty cut and dry.
RE: It's a stretch  
bw in dc : 1/8/2019 7:31 pm : link
In comment 14254654 compton said:
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to imagine that was an honest slip up. My guess, it was a Freudian slip from someone who is familiar with the substitution of King with the racial epithet. Sorry folks, coon is not a word that rolls of the lips.


Yes, in all of my employees employment contracts I specifically spell out Freudian slips as cause for termination.
Salem witch hunt is worse then  
xman : 1/8/2019 7:51 pm : link
an alleged racial slur
In all likelihood he probably misspoke, but  
eclipz928 : 1/8/2019 8:30 pm : link
there's really no reason to feel sorry for the guy. He is weather person on a television network - 80% of his job is just being able to speak clearly and appropriately in front of a large audience. If he can't do that, and is at the same time drawing negative attention to his place of business, then they have every right to fire him.
RE: RE: There are three possibilities...  
Matt M. : 1/8/2019 9:10 pm : link
In comment 14254068 Les in TO said:
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He meant to say it, he misspoke, and he is secretly a racist and lets his inner alt-right loony shine through when he's not careful.

What weatherman would knowingly say a racial epithet on a local newscast? Nobody. He didn't mean to say.

There are plenty of secret racists out there, but does anyone really think he would subconsciously slip an epithet into MLK's name on a local newscast? Hard to believe.

Or did he get his tongue tied and misspeak, like hundreds of people before him on live television? I think this is clearly the obvious answer. He has a lot more in common with the "Boom goes the dynamite" guy than Steve Bannon. Come on, folks...

I don’t believe he intended to say it however given that it is an epithet used to describe MLK, I understand why people are upset that he said it. Just as some posters here would be offended if a reporter accidentally said Ronald Retard Reagan park or George White Trash WBush park
In your examples, though, those would be intentional, while in this instance there is a distinct possibility that he fumbled his words.
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B in ALB : 1/8/2019 9:15 pm : link
In comment 14254068 Les in TO said:
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In comment 14254014 Chris in Philly said:


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He meant to say it, he misspoke, and he is secretly a racist and lets his inner alt-right loony shine through when he's not careful.

What weatherman would knowingly say a racial epithet on a local newscast? Nobody. He didn't mean to say.

There are plenty of secret racists out there, but does anyone really think he would subconsciously slip an epithet into MLK's name on a local newscast? Hard to believe.

Or did he get his tongue tied and misspeak, like hundreds of people before him on live television? I think this is clearly the obvious answer. He has a lot more in common with the "Boom goes the dynamite" guy than Steve Bannon. Come on, folks...

I don’t believe he intended to say it however given that it is an epithet used to describe MLK, I understand why people are upset that he said it. Just as some posters here would be offended if a reporter accidentally said Ronald Retard Reagan park or George White Trash WBush park


Retard Reagan?

White Trash Bush?

Where the fuck do you come up with this shit? Good lord.
This is a r.eal tough one  
Matt M. : 1/8/2019 9:24 pm : link
When I listened to it initially, I thought he fumbled his words. Then listening a few more times I could go either way.
RE: This is a r.eal tough one  
bw in dc : 1/8/2019 10:06 pm : link
In comment 14254835 Matt M. said:
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When I listened to it initially, I thought he fumbled his words. Then listening a few more times I could go either way.


So you actually think it’s plausible a guy in the news business would wake up one day and decide I’m going to mix in “coon” when referencing Martin Luther King? Intentionally. And commit career suicide.
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madgiantscow009 : 1/8/2019 10:20 pm : link
In comment 14254900 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14254835 Matt M. said:


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When I listened to it initially, I thought he fumbled his words. Then listening a few more times I could go either way.

So you actually think it’s plausible a guy in the news business would wake up one day and decide I’m going to mix in “coon” when referencing Martin Luther King? Intentionally. And commit career suicide.


this is scraping the bottom of the white people racist barrel. Identity politics needs the oppressor vs oppressed angle.
...  
christian : 1/8/2019 10:55 pm : link
Our country has suffered from group paranoia, judgement, and irrational waves plenty of times before. We've burned witches, we've hanged black men for looking at white women, rounded up the Japanese, and had the government sponsor, hunt down and ruin the lives of communists.

Attributing our worst instincts to social media is at best silly, and at worst dismissive.

The lesson we learn (and forget) every time we get ourselves all wrapped in paranoia and distrust, is to think it out before acting out.

Probably a good lesson for those in charge at the news station.
Weatherman fired for accidentally saying a racial slur  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/8/2019 10:58 pm : link
It was a mistake and it sucks he messed up like this. But I’ve heard that exact slur in reference to MLK before in some interview about the naming of a street in some city. I can’t feel too bad for this guy.
I truly pity those  
Knineteen : 1/8/2019 11:22 pm : link
who are immediately jumping on the racist bandwagon here.

Maybe the guy is a klansman, I have no clue; but have some amount of intelligent and objectivity to see the perfect storm that "King Junior" can cause if you incorrectly stumble over those two words.

Nope, just easier to call him a racist and pat oneself on the back. Job well done!
Question I keep coming back to -  
bc4life : 1/9/2019 7:34 am : link
What would be the benefit of him doing it intentionally - even if he was the biggest redneck on the planet?
RE: Question I keep coming back to -  
bw in dc : 1/9/2019 7:55 am : link
In comment 14255064 bc4life said:
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What would be the benefit of him doing it intentionally - even if he was the biggest redneck on the planet?


I’ve asked this several times. You’ll get no answer because there is none.

Which debunks this theory that he did it on purpose for some unexplained, irrational reason...
RE: ...  
Bill L : 1/9/2019 7:59 am : link
In comment 14254938 christian said:
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Our country has suffered from group paranoia, judgement, and irrational waves plenty of times before. We've burned witches, we've hanged black men for looking at white women, rounded up the Japanese, and had the government sponsor, hunt down and ruin the lives of communists.

Attributing our worst instincts to social media is at best silly, and at worst dismissive.

The lesson we learn (and forget) every time we get ourselves all wrapped in paranoia and distrust, is to think it out before acting out.

Probably a good lesson for those in charge at the news station.

We’ve burned witches????

I want to see proof of that.
RE: Weatherman fired for accidentally saying a racial slur  
Bill L : 1/9/2019 8:03 am : link
In comment 14254941 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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It was a mistake and it sucks he messed up like this. But I’ve heard that exact slur in reference to MLK before in some interview about the naming of a street in some city. I can’t feel too bad for this guy.

Yeah, I just can’t get behind that.

You acknowledge that this guy made a mistake (a word jumbling in one sentence out of countless) but can’t feel bad for him for losing his job, income, career, means to live, and reputation, because you heard somebody else, somewhere else, unrelatedly say something similar?

That seems unnecessarily cruel.

That just seems
Bill..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/9/2019 8:28 am : link
I was just going to post the same thing.

In essence, Osi is saying the guy made a unintentional mistake but should suffer the consequences for a mistake because the social mob called for it.

Anyone have and answer to the questions above about why a guy would intentionally utter a racist phrase on TV and pick a very awkward way of doing it?
This is a known slur  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/9/2019 8:29 am : link
People have been known to say this, that’s what a lot on this thread clearly don’t realize. I think it’s far more likely that he simply said something that he’s said in private on TV by accident than this whole imo dumb ”Junior/King could cause someone to mistakenly say Coon” excuse. Who the hell ever says Martin Luther Jr. anyway lol? I find that excuse weak. It seems cruel lmao. Dumbass made a mistake and a bad one, there are consequences to fucking up on TV.
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