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Another article/opinion on OBJ trade...

KingBlue : 1/8/2019 10:06 am
It's just chatter and is not based on any knowledge or even any suggestion that it is a possibility. I only bring it here because I suspect some would jump at the offer.

What say you... if SF offered their 1st and third for OBJ?

That would give the Giants # 2 and # 6 and a high 3rd.

Would you consider this offer if it was real?





OBJ to SF - ( New Window )
I donít want to trade such a weapon who is still young, but  
Big Blue '56 : 1/8/2019 10:08 am : link
Iíll play. The 1st and 3rd would be fine, IF they threw in a 1st or a 2nd and 3rd next year
Personally...  
KingBlue : 1/8/2019 10:16 am : link
I wouldn't trade OBJ... especially for the proposed offer. But I'm sure others will consider the proposal intriguing. Maybe to grab Haskins, an ER and a very good player in the 3rd
I'd swap picks and take a couple 2nds  
ghost718 : 1/8/2019 10:25 am : link
or a first next year.

2nd overall pick straight up for Beckham? Good luck
No way Iíd contemplate swapping picks.  
Big Blue '56 : 1/8/2019 10:27 am : link
For starters, weíd get their 2nd overall pick and keep our 6th
this year's 1st and 2nd  
markky : 1/8/2019 10:31 am : link
and next year's 1st to start.
Sounds like you're not interested in trading him  
ghost718 : 1/8/2019 10:32 am : link
.
The  
AcidTest : 1/8/2019 10:33 am : link
arguments for trading him are his skirting team rules (which I don't think is a problem), the emergence of Engram at the end of the season, the injuries he's had the last two years, and a manageable cap hit if you do so.

I still wouldn't trade him unless the offer was ridiculous. He's an absolute game changer, and a generational player.
RE: I'd swap picks and take a couple 2nds  
KingBlue : 1/8/2019 10:34 am : link
In comment 14253854 ghost718 said:
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or a first next year.

2nd overall pick straight up for Beckham? Good luck


Your proposal has far less value than the proposal on the table...
2 1's and a 2 for Beckham?  
Chris684 : 1/8/2019 10:36 am : link
coming off of two injured seasons and making a ton of cash?

Crazy stuff.
He is not  
TommyWiseau : 1/8/2019 11:03 am : link
Being traded. No one is going to offer what we want
I think it depends  
Jay in Toronto : 1/8/2019 11:04 am : link
on what the Jints think about his record of injuries and whether this past year has had a negative effect on the locker-room.
Players get injuries. Many times through no fault  
Big Blue '56 : 1/8/2019 11:08 am : link
of their own, like this particular one this year.

He should not be labeled injury prone. I wouldnít even infer or imply it
Yes because its such a good idea  
blueblood : 1/8/2019 11:09 am : link
to trade one of the best players at his position, and one of the best ever so far in his career, for the completely UNKNOWN quantity , create a hole in your offense AND a cap hit...

YES such a good idea.
RE: Yes because its such a good idea  
Big Blue '56 : 1/8/2019 11:12 am : link
In comment 14253942 blueblood said:
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to trade one of the best players at his position, and one of the best ever so far in his career, for the completely UNKNOWN quantity , create a hole in your offense AND a cap hit...

YES such a good idea.


Very few want him traded. I sure donít. But if he was, weíre simply stating what we should receive in return. Itís just for discussion purposes, nothing more. At least for me
Oh man, Iím hoping this talk stops  
exiled : 1/8/2019 11:19 am : link
Letís NOT trade one of our best players, a superstar, one of the few reasons fans are still watching the Giants.

His injuries are gonna have to get way worse before I can take any of this seriously.
Do not think Niners  
TMS : 1/8/2019 2:09 pm : link
do that deal.
The 49ers aren't trading the 2nd overall for Beckham  
Go Terps : 1/8/2019 2:18 pm : link
If they do, they're high.

Look at the top 6 guys from last year's draft:

Mayfield
Barkley
Darnold
Ward
Chubb
Nelson

None of those teams would trade one of those guys for Beckham straight up, and we wouldn't trade Barkley for Beckham if he were on another team.

Hugely unrealistic.
I mean, I'd trade Beckham if they gave up their #2 overall pick.  
FStubbs : 1/8/2019 2:22 pm : link
Throwing in a third as well? I'm taking that and running.

Don't read this as me thinking Beckham must be traded, but that's an offer you can't refuse. Work out the cap details later.
RE: The 49ers aren't trading the 2nd overall for Beckham  
Default : 1/8/2019 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14254314 Go Terps said:
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If they do, they're high.

Look at the top 6 guys from last year's draft:

Mayfield
Barkley
Darnold
Ward
Chubb
Nelson

None of those teams would trade one of those guys for Beckham straight up, and we wouldn't trade Barkley for Beckham if he were on another team.

Hugely unrealistic.


On top of that, when was the last time a top 5 pick was traded for a current player?
100% yes  
PaulN : 1/8/2019 2:28 pm : link
What is our record with Beckham as our great player. Sorry, but trading him, seems to me a very smart move, save cap, add draft picks and get rid of a real head case seems like a win, win, win to me and a no brainer.
ok i will play... 1st and 2nd , next years 1st and Greg Kittle  
GMAN4LIFE : 1/8/2019 2:30 pm : link
for OBJ
If  
PaulN : 1/8/2019 2:32 pm : link
We were a win now team, with a young franchise QB, this answer would be different. Sometimes circumstances dictate the course of action, plus we have not won with him, if we had a franchise QB and the record was the same as it was since we had Beckham, we would be screaming no matter what his stats said, losing is losing, pretty or ugly, why is it different with a wide receiver, it isn't and shouldn't be.
RE: 100% yes  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/8/2019 2:32 pm : link
In comment 14254332 PaulN said:
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What is our record with Beckham as our great player. Sorry, but trading him, seems to me a very smart move, save cap, add draft picks and get rid of a real head case seems like a win, win, win to me and a no brainer.


Six losing seasons in Michael Strahan's career. TRAID.
Although, I am not for trading OBJ...  
KingBlue : 1/8/2019 2:39 pm : link
If we are indeed looking at QB and Haskins is our guy then in all likelihood we will need to trade up from 6 to get him. If sold on Haskins, then this proposal allows you to get your QB without giving up a boatload of picks, keep your #6, your second and add a high third. You have the remaining 9 picks left to roster build.

Interesting offer.

RE: 2 1's and a 2 for Beckham?  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/8/2019 3:05 pm : link
In comment 14253884 Chris684 said:
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coming off of two injured seasons and making a ton of cash?

Crazy stuff.

His contract wouldn't necessarily be "a ton of cash" to the team trading for him since they wouldn't be on the hook at all for his signing bonus.

I'm not remotely in favor of trading him, but the contract wouldn't be an obstacle for any teams that might be interested. If anything, he'd be more attractive as a trade target since the acquiring team wouldn't need to sign him to a new contract themselves (unlike Khalil Mack, for example).
.  
arcarsenal : 1/8/2019 3:18 pm : link
Are we going to do this every day?

Beckham isn't getting traded. It's a waste of time.
RE: ok i will play... 1st and 2nd , next years 1st and Greg Kittle  
YAJ2112 : 1/8/2019 3:51 pm : link
In comment 14254335 GMAN4LIFE said:
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for OBJ


Greg Kittle? See if they can throw in Ron Kittle too!
RE: RE: ok i will play... 1st and 2nd , next years 1st and Greg Kittle  
arcarsenal : 1/8/2019 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14254457 YAJ2112 said:
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for OBJ



Greg Kittle? See if they can throw in Ron Kittle too!


I see your Ron Kittle and raise you a Kerry Kittles.
RE: RE: RE: ok i will play... 1st and 2nd , next years 1st and Greg Kittle  
YAJ2112 : 1/8/2019 4:01 pm : link
In comment 14254467 arcarsenal said:
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for OBJ



Greg Kittle? See if they can throw in Ron Kittle too!



I see your Ron Kittle and raise you a Kerry Kittles.


Damn it. I'll throw in the Tender Vittles then. But I'm not throwing in Kerry Collins.
RE: RE: RE: RE: ok i will play... 1st and 2nd , next years 1st and Greg Kittle  
arcarsenal : 1/8/2019 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14254473 YAJ2112 said:
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for OBJ



Greg Kittle? See if they can throw in Ron Kittle too!



I see your Ron Kittle and raise you a Kerry Kittles.



Damn it. I'll throw in the Tender Vittles then. But I'm not throwing in Kerry Collins.


I will begrudgingly accept the Tender Vittles.
Absolutely  
joeinpa : 1/9/2019 7:41 am : link
Make that deal.
RE: I donít want to trade such a weapon who is still young, but  
djm : 1/9/2019 10:57 am : link
In comment 14253825 Big Blue '56 said:
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Iíll play. The 1st and 3rd would be fine, IF they threw in a 1st or a 2nd and 3rd next year


Youíre not getting that much for a wr. He had better be 23 and perfect. Obj is great but he isnít 23 and he isnít perfect.
OBJ is a great talent  
TMS : 1/9/2019 5:26 pm : link
as he proved in his first year. Since then his value has dropped quite a bit. Injuries and missed games, for a smallish WR, who acts out often, during and after the season is over, has diminished his value quite a bit. Lucky to get a top ten pick for him, never mind the second pick in the draft at this point. Unless you have a targeted player on draft day. We have good WRs receivers, without him, and he has not been making that much of a difference WHEN he plays. MO
RE: OBJ is a great talent  
arcarsenal : 1/9/2019 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14255913 TMS said:
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as he proved in his first year. Since then his value has dropped quite a bit. Injuries and missed games, for a smallish WR, who acts out often, during and after the season is over, has diminished his value quite a bit. Lucky to get a top ten pick for him, never mind the second pick in the draft at this point. Unless you have a targeted player on draft day. We have good WRs receivers, without him, and he has not been making that much of a difference WHEN he plays. MO


He acts out often? We have good WR's without him? He doesn't make a difference when he plays?

What the hell did I just read.
...  
christian : 1/9/2019 6:30 pm : link
The Giants have 1 year of Sterling Shepard, restricted rights to Corey Coleman, then Jawill Davis, and Quarter Henderson.

You subtract Beckham and the Giants have the worst WR group I can think of in the NFL.
Said he is worth a top ten pock  
TMS : 1/9/2019 11:29 pm : link
to a team that thinks he will take them to the promised land. The SF suggestion is wishful thinking. Love his skill set, but what some here, think he is worth is not realistic. Sorry to offend anyone.
You didn't "offend" anyone.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/10/2019 7:08 am : link
You posted a handful of things that aren't true.
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