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Kliff Kingsbury to be the HC of the Arizona Cardinals

Anakim : 1/8/2019 3:01 pm
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Per sources, Kliff Kingsbury is finalizing a deal to become the Head Coach of the Arizona Cardinals. @nflnetwork @gmfb @NFLonFOX
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Thought he'd be a great OC  
The Dude : 1/8/2019 3:15 pm : link
made the jump to HC.

I could see Rosen making a jump with a guy like him in his corner though. Not like Goff, but some sort of jump..not sure Wilks was a QB guy.


Lets be honest, is the 35-40 head coach of Texas Tech so well known if he wasn't so god damn handsome.
RE: Thought he'd be a great OC  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/8/2019 3:16 pm : link
In comment 14254401 The Dude said:
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Lets be honest, is the 35-40 head coach of Texas Tech so well known if he wasn't so god damn handsome.


That's just foolish.
Eh  
GiantGrit : 1/8/2019 3:16 pm : link
Offensively he is brilliant, no doubt. He has never won as a HC in college and i don't think he has ever even coached in the NFL before.

If i were an NFL team with a struggling offense, i would have fired my OC and tried throwing 3 or 4 million at him. He is definitely going to help Rosen.

He needs to take a page out of Mcvay's book and hire an older, established DC who commands a lot of respect. If he fails to do so, i don't think he'll last.
Who knows  
MotownGIANTS : 1/8/2019 3:17 pm : link
he could be less ego driven in the pros and does well at delegation .... get a great DC and DC assts stay out of their soup and focus on HC duties and QB development ... which would allow access to the OC and the system without being intrusive.


Hell Pat S ... would do well to let the playcalling duties go as HC.
RE: NFL HC is a lost art..  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/8/2019 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14254381 Sean said:
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didnít he just get fired? These teams have no creativity. Where are the program builders? Defensive minded coaches no longer matter?

They just fired a defensive minded coach after one season.
At least he'll have  
Bill in UT : 1/8/2019 3:22 pm : link
Herm Edwards around to consult with
RE: Eh  
Greg from LI : 1/8/2019 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14254405 GiantGrit said:
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Offensively he is brilliant, no doubt. He has never won as a HC in college and i don't think he has ever even coached in the NFL before.


Nope, he has not. His three coaching stops are UH, TAMU, and Texas Tech.
RE: Eh  
The 12th Man : 1/8/2019 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14254405 GiantGrit said:
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Offensively he is brilliant, no doubt. He has never won as a HC in college and i don't think he has ever even coached in the NFL before.

If i were an NFL team with a struggling offense, i would have fired my OC and tried throwing 3 or 4 million at him. He is definitely going to help Rosen.

He needs to take a page out of Mcvay's book and hire an older, established DC who commands a lot of respect. If he fails to do so, i don't think he'll last.


Msybe he can lure Herm Edwards. LOL!
I thought Gase had a real good shot at that job.  
MOOPS : 1/8/2019 3:24 pm : link
Maybe now the Jets?
RE: dude was 35-40 at Texas Tech  
jeff57 : 1/8/2019 3:28 pm : link
In comment 14254387 Greg from LI said:
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I mean, I get that it's not a blueblood program, but cmon.

I could see hiring him as an OC. As a head coach, though?


Heís white, I mean right, for the job.
at best, some cautious optimism  
Bill in UT : 1/8/2019 3:29 pm : link
on the AZ fansite. Along with an understanding that AZ isn't the dream landing site for top coaching prospects.
RE: I thought Gase had a real good shot at that job.  
GiantGrit : 1/8/2019 3:41 pm : link
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Maybe now the Jets?


My buddy whose a Jets fan said he is getting serious consideration, he is a great offensive mind but supposedly burns bridges with his take it or leave it approach.
...  
Mdgiantsfan : 1/8/2019 3:45 pm : link
Far cry from the snails pace set last year with the new hires; which I like.
RE: RE: dude was 35-40 at Texas Tech  
cokeduplt : 1/8/2019 3:53 pm : link
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I mean, I get that it's not a blueblood program, but cmon.

I could see hiring him as an OC. As a head coach, though?



Heís white, I mean right, for the job.


What does race have to do with anything?
Gregg Williams will be available  
spike : 1/8/2019 4:05 pm : link
soon
Seemed like the Jets were very interested just  
fanofthejets : 1/8/2019 4:07 pm : link
I think they like Matt Rhule a bit better. Kingsbury seems like he needs be a coordinator for a few years.

He wasn't a very good head coach in college. I wouldn't entrust him with any franchise yet
RE: Seemed like the Jets were very interested just  
Strahan91 : 1/8/2019 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14254480 fanofthejets said:
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I think they like Matt Rhule a bit better. Kingsbury seems like he needs be a coordinator for a few years.

He wasn't a very good head coach in college. I wouldn't entrust him with any franchise yet

Of course not. You know, since he was more interested in the Arizona Cardinals than your team...
RE: RE: Seemed like the Jets were very interested just  
fanofthejets : 1/8/2019 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14254483 Strahan91 said:
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I think they like Matt Rhule a bit better. Kingsbury seems like he needs be a coordinator for a few years.

He wasn't a very good head coach in college. I wouldn't entrust him with any franchise yet


Of course not. You know, since he was more interested in the Arizona Cardinals than your team...


The Jets never offered Kingsbury the job.
RE: RE: The Jets reportedly really wanted him.  
Mr. Bungle : 1/8/2019 4:19 pm : link
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The fans seemed to as well. Surprising he chose Arizona and did it so quickly. Wonder what the factors were.



If you've been to Arizona you may understand why a relatively young, single, good looking guy may choose that location.

Yeah, definitely no hotties to be found in New York City...
RE: RE: RE: dude was 35-40 at Texas Tech  
jeff57 : 1/8/2019 4:21 pm : link
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I mean, I get that it's not a blueblood program, but cmon.

I could see hiring him as an OC. As a head coach, though?



Heís white, I mean right, for the job.



What does race have to do with anything?


Wilkes got all of one of one year. Iím sure this guy with his stellar college coaching record will get a lot more leeway.
RE: RE: RE: Seemed like the Jets were very interested just  
Strahan91 : 1/8/2019 4:23 pm : link
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I think they like Matt Rhule a bit better. Kingsbury seems like he needs be a coordinator for a few years.

He wasn't a very good head coach in college. I wouldn't entrust him with any franchise yet


Of course not. You know, since he was more interested in the Arizona Cardinals than your team...



The Jets never offered Kingsbury the job.

Think about it. It's pretty obvious which team he preferred.
RE: RE: RE: RE: dude was 35-40 at Texas Tech  
cokeduplt : 1/8/2019 4:25 pm : link
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I mean, I get that it's not a blueblood program, but cmon.

I could see hiring him as an OC. As a head coach, though?



Heís white, I mean right, for the job.



What does race have to do with anything?



Wilkes got all of one of one year. Iím sure this guy with his stellar college coaching record will get a lot more leeway.



How many years did Dennis Green get? Get this bs out of here
RE: RE: RE: RE: Seemed like the Jets were very interested just  
fanofthejets : 1/8/2019 4:35 pm : link
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I think they like Matt Rhule a bit better. Kingsbury seems like he needs be a coordinator for a few years.

He wasn't a very good head coach in college. I wouldn't entrust him with any franchise yet


Of course not. You know, since he was more interested in the Arizona Cardinals than your team...



The Jets never offered Kingsbury the job.


Think about it. It's pretty obvious which team he preferred.


Is it? He almost had a contract finalized with Arizona and still met with the Jets. That's a risk. Arizona could've questioned his commitment to them and rescinded it.
.  
arcarsenal : 1/8/2019 4:38 pm : link
Teams desperately want the next Sean McVay...
RE: RE: RE: The Jets reportedly really wanted him.  
AcesUp : 1/8/2019 4:47 pm : link
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The fans seemed to as well. Surprising he chose Arizona and did it so quickly. Wonder what the factors were.



If you've been to Arizona you may understand why a relatively young, single, good looking guy may choose that location.


Yeah, definitely no hotties to be found in New York City...


You mean Florham Park?
Baker transferred on this guy  
twostepgiants : 1/8/2019 4:49 pm : link
He played Davis Webb over Baker

Let that sink in
The previous 2 HCs at Texas Tech  
twostepgiants : 1/8/2019 4:56 pm : link
Were 20-17 and hired away into better job and 84-43.

Prior to Kingsbury, they 18 of19 winning seasons. He proceeded to have losing years in 4 out of 6 seasons

RE: RE: That was fast  
micky : 1/8/2019 4:59 pm : link
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No one Wants the hot coordinators of playoff teams?



Many teams don't want to wait to hire a HC and want to get started on next year ASAP.


This is the dilemma teams that need hc's wait out and possibly end up scrambling for a hc or get one and get to work quickly for offseason
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jeff57 : 1/8/2019 6:12 pm : link
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I mean, I get that it's not a blueblood program, but cmon.

I could see hiring him as an OC. As a head coach, though?



Heís white, I mean right, for the job.



What does race have to do with anything?



Wilkes got all of one of one year. Iím sure this guy with his stellar college coaching record will get a lot more leeway.




How many years did Dennis Green get? Get this bs out of here

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Kingsbury is in way over his head  
PatersonPlank : 1/8/2019 6:13 pm : link
I think this is a horrible choice.
RE: Baker transferred on this guy  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/8/2019 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14254528 twostepgiants said:
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He played Davis Webb over Baker

Let that sink in


Wrong. Baker got hurt and transferred because he didnít think he could get his job back. Mahomes then pushed Webb to Cal, because heís Mahomes.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: dude was 35-40 at Texas Tech  
cokeduplt : 1/8/2019 6:29 pm : link
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I mean, I get that it's not a blueblood program, but cmon.

I could see hiring him as an OC. As a head coach, though?



Heís white, I mean right, for the job.



What does race have to do with anything?



Wilkes got all of one of one year. Iím sure this guy with his stellar college coaching record will get a lot more leeway.




How many years did Dennis Green get? Get this bs out of here

Link - ( New Window )



I never said it was a good hire. Just donít know how race comes into play.
Wilks was terrible  
fanofthejets : 1/8/2019 6:38 pm : link
Sometimes all you need to see is a year of incompetence and know when to pull the plug.

Sometimes you see a poor record, but potential, good game planning, adjustments, good discipline, a team that is disciplined, motivated, smart but plagued by bad luck. That coach you keep because you feel he can eventually grow in the job and win.

Wilks showed none of that. And he wasn't the right guy to get the best out of Rosen.
RE: RE: Baker transferred on this guy  
twostepgiants : 1/8/2019 6:41 pm : link
This guy was HC and had Davis Webb as his starting QB when Baker Mayfield was healthy and an option. To the extent that Mayfield felt the need to transfer.

In comment 14254603 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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He played Davis Webb over Baker

Let that sink in



Wrong. Baker got hurt and transferred because he didnít think he could get his job back. Mahomes then pushed Webb to Cal, because heís Mahomes.
RE: .  
fanofthejets : 1/8/2019 6:41 pm : link
In comment 14254517 arcarsenal said:
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Teams desperately want the next Sean McVay...


And that's the problem. Because one team found McVay does not mean there is a well of McVays out there that can be tapped.
RE: RE: dude was 35-40 at Texas Tech  
B in ALB : 1/8/2019 6:41 pm : link
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I mean, I get that it's not a blueblood program, but cmon.

I could see hiring him as an OC. As a head coach, though?



Heís white, I mean right, for the job.


Holy shit. WTF is wrong with you?
Here is an article on the subject  
twostepgiants : 1/8/2019 6:50 pm : link
Mayfield was 5-0 as starter and then got injured. Davis Webb was the guy who came in and then Baker was not even offered a scholarship by Texas Tech.
Mayfield detailed strained relationship with Kingsbury - ( New Window )
I think teams are missing out on why McVay has panned out  
Go Terps : 1/8/2019 6:51 pm : link
McVay's best work isn't what he's done with Goff. It's how he put together his staff and went about establishing a culture with that team. Are Kingsbury and LaFleur going to do that?

Mike Lombardi brought up a great point about LaFleur today - when his offense went up against Don Martindale's defense he got shut out. Yet LaFleur gets a job and Martindale doesn't even get an interview.
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Eman11 : 1/8/2019 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14254517 arcarsenal said:
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Teams desperately want the next Sean McVay...


Agreed. He might be good for Rosen but can he find a Wade Phillips to just handle that side of the ball, while he concentrates on the O and Rosen?
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Gatorade Dunk : 1/8/2019 7:14 pm : link
In comment 14254620 fanofthejets said:
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Teams desperately want the next Sean McVay...



And that's the problem. Because one team found McVay does not mean there is a well of McVays out there that can be tapped.

Weird. I thought the problem was that a Jets fan posts on a Giants message board.
RE: RE: RE: dude was 35-40 at Texas Tech  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/8/2019 7:42 pm : link
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I mean, I get that it's not a blueblood program, but cmon.

I could see hiring him as an OC. As a head coach, though?



Heís white, I mean right, for the job.



Holy shit. WTF is wrong with you?


Your think this is bad go check out the ObJ PETA thread.
NFL teams have abandoned  
bluepepper : 1/8/2019 7:45 pm : link
the strategy of recycling failed NFL coaches and moving on to recycling failed college coaches.
RE: Gregg Williams will be available  
gmenatlarge : 1/8/2019 8:28 pm : link
In comment 14254479 spike said:
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soon


He led the Browns to more wins than the giants had....
RE: RE: RE: dude was 35-40 at Texas Tech  
GiantGrit : 1/8/2019 9:38 pm : link
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I mean, I get that it's not a blueblood program, but cmon.

I could see hiring him as an OC. As a head coach, though?



Heís white, I mean right, for the job.



Holy shit. WTF is wrong with you?


I've seen some stupid takes around here but Jeff's may take the cake.
They should offer Rex Ryan  
Rflairr : 1/9/2019 12:41 am : link
A boatload to be his DC
RE: Wilks was terrible  
YAJ2112 : 1/9/2019 9:25 am : link
In comment 14254618 fanofthejets said:
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Sometimes all you need to see is a year of incompetence and know when to pull the plug.

Sometimes you see a poor record, but potential, good game planning, adjustments, good discipline, a team that is disciplined, motivated, smart but plagued by bad luck. That coach you keep because you feel he can eventually grow in the job and win.

Wilks showed none of that. And he wasn't the right guy to get the best out of Rosen.


Well if a jets fan knows anything, it's incompetence.
ďIf we are think alike, nobody is thinkingĒ  
Sean : 1/9/2019 9:39 am : link
A quote by Bill Walsh really is relevant today with regards to the head coach hires.
RE: dude was 35-40 at Texas Tech  
Section331 : 1/9/2019 9:46 am : link
In comment 14254387 Greg from LI said:
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I mean, I get that it's not a blueblood program, but cmon.

I could see hiring him as an OC. As a head coach, though?


This. I would definitely be behind bringing him in as an OC, but as a HC, this will be an epic disaster.
RE: Here is an article on the subject  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/9/2019 12:48 pm : link
In comment 14254627 twostepgiants said:
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Mayfield was 5-0 as starter and then got injured. Davis Webb was the guy who came in and then Baker was not even offered a scholarship by Texas Tech. Mayfield detailed strained relationship with Kingsbury - ( New Window )


You want to criticize his overall record or inability to fix the defense? Fine, but this focus on Mayfield and Webb is asinine. Webb had slightly better numbers the season they played together and he was a top 25 prospect at the position coming out of high school. Heck, he went on to replace Jared Goff at Cal and they averaged 37.1 PPG to the 37.9 they scored with Goff the previous year. Mayfield said he didn't get a scholarship after his freshman year. Guess who did get a scholly that offseason? A top 25 prospect at the position named Pat Mahomes.

Not getting a team to play defense in the Big 12 is hardly a crime. Lincoln Riley is coaching at a far superior program and his defense is an embarrassment. TT lost to the Oklahoma, Texas, and West Virginia this season by a combined 20 points.

Gregg Williams was dumped by the Browns.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/9/2019 12:54 pm : link
He might be someone for KK to look at as DC.
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