OBJ loves animals - he posts videos with his dogs all the time. I find in endearing and I am sure the video he posted to instagram with the lion and chimps was harmless and in goof fun.
Wasn’t PETA just advocating that the phrase “bringing home the bacon” should be banned because it was insensitive to pigs? PETA can shove it and so can the media. Leave OBJ alone let him live his life.
any news is good news. The guy he made the video with is a massive animal activist, fights constantly against poaching, and has raised massive amounts of awareness to animal preservation.
That chimp was better of playing catch than sitting in a cage. What the fuck is wrong with people?
no longer play ball with your dog, either? Are dogs 2nd class animals?
As far as the assholes giving Beckham shit for having fun, get off your XBox or Play Station. Remember to not go on vacations and keep yelling at people to get off your lawn.
and I don't think jcn meant it to come out the way that it sounded. At least I hope not.
No don’t rationalize it. It was not ok to say that. Not even a fucking inkling.
No need to be so quick with the race card. News flash: all humans are primates.
Yeah, maybe I am slow but I didn't see it as a racial thing. All humans evolved from the great apes. But some behave more primitively than others regardless of race.
and I don't think jcn meant it to come out the way that it sounded. At least I hope not.
No don’t rationalize it. It was not ok to say that. Not even a fucking inkling.
No need to be so quick with the race card. News flash: all humans are primates.
Equating black people with monkeys and apes has a long, rich, racist history in this county (and around the world). This isn't playing the race card. Maybe it wasn't a conscious move, but it was definitely racist.
was trying to be some racist monster. It wasn't a smart comment, but he's a long-time poster here who has never exhibited anything closet to bigotry. No need for the torches and pitchforks, folks.
I guess playing fetch with your dog now is abuse Â
Not the best joke to make for obvious reasons, but there's no doubt in my mind that it wasn't at all racially motivated or meant to be in poor taste. jcn has been around a long time - I've never seen him post anything remotely racist. Pretty safe to assume this was harmless.
That organization loves going media whoring to rustle up some donation money. Meanwhile they quietly kill more than 90% of animals brought into their shelters and supports breed-specific bans.
I don't really care about what OBJ does, but it's worth taking every opportunity possible to remind folks about what a terrible organization PETA is.
was trying to be some racist monster. It wasn't a smart comment, but he's a long-time poster here who has never exhibited anything closet to bigotry. No need for the torches and pitchforks, folks.
Sure, the comment may have been a mistake, but it is problematic, and it is best that either JCN or a mod delete it.
Not the best joke to make for obvious reasons, but there's no doubt in my mind that it wasn't at all racially motivated or meant to be in poor taste. jcn has been around a long time - I've never seen him post anything remotely racist. Pretty safe to assume this was harmless.
These things aren’t harmless. I don’t care what he’s done before or how long he has posted. We are all adults and we know what words mean.
and I don't think jcn meant it to come out the way that it sounded. At least I hope not.
No don’t rationalize it. It was not ok to say that. Not even a fucking inkling.
No need to be so quick with the race card. News flash: all humans are primates.
Equating black people with monkeys and apes has a long, rich, racist history in this county (and around the world). This isn't playing the race card. Maybe it wasn't a conscious move, but it was definitely racist.
Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
No it’s sad that people try to justify it. That’s the sad part. Being fucking complacent makes you just as bad. That’s the sad part. People bllindly say oh he’s posted forever he can’t possibly be racist.
Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
Nah- you're either in denial or overly sensitive. I don't want to get too into the weeds here, but racism = prejudice + power. All of us have prejudices, but white people are the predominant group with power. It's that simple- we're all racist and we all exist in a society build on white supremacy. You can deny and reject what i'm saying if you want, but I can promise you that those who don't have the privilege of whiteness don't have that luxury.
If you want to make this a better place, do the work to confront your own biases and those of the people you care about.
Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
No it’s sad that people try to justify it. That’s the sad part. Being fucking complacent makes you just as bad. That’s the sad part. People bllindly say oh he’s posted forever he can’t possibly be racist.
So your reading is that the punchline is that Josh Norman is black and therefore a primate? It doesn't have anything to do with Josh Norman's antics and general douche baggery? Why isn't Beckham referred to as a primate if it's all about blackness?
I think you're reading too much into it. It was a glib joke that turns out is problematic because of the cultural implications it holds.
RE: PETA have always been a bunch of a-holes anyway Â
Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
No it’s sad that people try to justify it. That’s the sad part. Being fucking complacent makes you just as bad. That’s the sad part. People bllindly say oh he’s posted forever he can’t possibly be racist.
Am i trying to justisfy it it? No, but i also can see it can immediately being racist comment (instilled by society) but when you arent you can disconcern what IS and what ISN'T via objective comprehension. JCN comment wasnt (i hope) intended for it to be..as said, it wasnt great idea to comment on post like this, as you can see it immediately turned to that thought..racism..its sad its got worse and sad part it will continue.
Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
No it’s sad that people try to justify it. That’s the sad part. Being fucking complacent makes you just as bad. That’s the sad part. People bllindly say oh he’s posted forever he can’t possibly be racist.
So your reading is that the punchline is that Josh Norman is black and therefore a primate? It doesn't have anything to do with Josh Norman's antics and general douche baggery? Why isn't Beckham referred to as a primate if it's all about blackness?
I think you're reading too much into it. It was a glib joke that turns out is problematic because of the cultural implications it holds.
If you wanted to refer to Norman as an animal because he's a jackass, calling him a donkey would make more sense. Seeing a chimp and thinking "Josh Norman joke!" might not be intended as racist. I'm not saying jcn overtly hates or fears black people. But comparing a black person to an ape IS racist.
Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
No it’s sad that people try to justify it. That’s the sad part. Being fucking complacent makes you just as bad. That’s the sad part. People bllindly say oh he’s posted forever he can’t possibly be racist.
Am i trying to justisfy it it? No, but i also can see it can immediately being racist comment (instilled by society) but when you arent you can disconcern what IS and what ISN'T via objective comprehension. JCN comment wasnt (i hope) intended for it to be..as said, it wasnt great idea to comment on post like this, as you can see it immediately turned to that thought..racism..its sad its got worse and sad part it will continue.
Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
No it’s sad that people try to justify it. That’s the sad part. Being fucking complacent makes you just as bad. That’s the sad part. People bllindly say oh he’s posted forever he can’t possibly be racist.
So your reading is that the punchline is that Josh Norman is black and therefore a primate? It doesn't have anything to do with Josh Norman's antics and general douche baggery? Why isn't Beckham referred to as a primate if it's all about blackness?
I think you're reading too much into it. It was a glib joke that turns out is problematic because of the cultural implications it holds.
If you wanted to refer to Norman as an animal because he's a jackass, calling him a donkey would make more sense. Seeing a chimp and thinking "Josh Norman joke!" might not be intended as racist. I'm not saying jcn overtly hates or fears black people. But comparing a black person to an ape IS racist.
Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
No it’s sad that people try to justify it. That’s the sad part. Being fucking complacent makes you just as bad. That’s the sad part. People bllindly say oh he’s posted forever he can’t possibly be racist.
Am i trying to justisfy it it? No, but i also can see it can immediately being racist comment (instilled by society) but when you arent you can disconcern what IS and what ISN'T via objective comprehension. JCN comment wasnt (i hope) intended for it to be..as said, it wasnt great idea to comment on post like this, as you can see it immediately turned to that thought..racism..its sad its got worse and sad part it will continue.
JCN can't speak for himself now?
Not speaking..let him/her carry on..im done because nothing good comes with these conversations race, politics, or religion. Bottomline, this world is no good and the humans (all) that live in it.adios good luck before this thread is deleted
the ball, you know like midget tossing. I don't get the problem with playing catch with him. Actually thought the little fella's got better hands than OBJ, and didn't need gloves.
Not the best joke to make for obvious reasons, but there's no doubt in my mind that it wasn't at all racially motivated or meant to be in poor taste. jcn has been around a long time - I've never seen him post anything remotely racist. Pretty safe to assume this was harmless.
These things aren’t harmless. I don’t care what he’s done before or how long he has posted. We are all adults and we know what words mean.
We're all adults which means we're all able to not jump to conclusions on intent, especially without the benefit of site and sound, even if the overtones are obvious to some of us.
That's the only way to maintain civility, to have a leg to stand on, and be a credible voice to learn from.
Correct yes, condemn, make sure you have right on your side.
Past behavior and actions are a good indicator of intent and he has been a reasonable, respectful, and tolerant poster in this community for many, many years.
Humans are primates, that's where I initially went. Do I understand others going somewhere else with the comment? Of course.
I prefer to give people of good character at least the benifit of explanation.
I love this place. But you’ve all offended me and I think the only way to make BBI safe again is for the mods to ban everyone. Look at what OBJ has done to us! And to think, we could have had a constructive thread on whether or not Eli is done.
jcn for the win!
LOL
Dude I hate Josh norman just as much as any Giants fan but this is by far the most racist comment I have ever seen on this site. Not funny at all.
Wasn’t PETA just advocating that the phrase “bringing home the bacon” should be banned because it was insensitive to pigs? PETA can shove it and so can the media. Leave OBJ alone let him live his life.
Because he tossed a football harmlessly to a chimp? Wtf is wrong with you people?
Yeah. Not sure you meant it the way it read but....jeeeeeez
That chimp was better of playing catch than sitting in a cage. What the fuck is wrong with people?
As far as the assholes giving Beckham shit for having fun, get off your XBox or Play Station. Remember to not go on vacations and keep yelling at people to get off your lawn.
No don’t rationalize it. It was not ok to say that. Not even a fucking inkling.
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and I don't think jcn meant it to come out the way that it sounded. At least I hope not.
No don’t rationalize it. It was not ok to say that. Not even a fucking inkling.
No need to be so quick with the race card. News flash: all humans are primates.
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Enough of his shit
Because he tossed a football harmlessly to a chimp? Wtf is wrong with you people?
It was a joke, Francis.
Ha. Your handle makes that funny.
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and I don't think jcn meant it to come out the way that it sounded. At least I hope not.
No don’t rationalize it. It was not ok to say that. Not even a fucking inkling.
No need to be so quick with the race card. News flash: all humans are primates.
Yeah, maybe I am slow but I didn't see it as a racial thing. All humans evolved from the great apes. But some behave more primitively than others regardless of race.
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and I don't think jcn meant it to come out the way that it sounded. At least I hope not.
No don’t rationalize it. It was not ok to say that. Not even a fucking inkling.
No need to be so quick with the race card. News flash: all humans are primates.
Equating black people with monkeys and apes has a long, rich, racist history in this county (and around the world). This isn't playing the race card. Maybe it wasn't a conscious move, but it was definitely racist.
I don't really care about what OBJ does, but it's worth taking every opportunity possible to remind folks about what a terrible organization PETA is.
Sure, the comment may have been a mistake, but it is problematic, and it is best that either JCN or a mod delete it.
These things aren’t harmless. I don’t care what he’s done before or how long he has posted. We are all adults and we know what words mean.
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and I don't think jcn meant it to come out the way that it sounded. At least I hope not.
No don’t rationalize it. It was not ok to say that. Not even a fucking inkling.
No need to be so quick with the race card. News flash: all humans are primates.
Equating black people with monkeys and apes has a long, rich, racist history in this county (and around the world). This isn't playing the race card. Maybe it wasn't a conscious move, but it was definitely racist.
+1 Sure came off that way to me!
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
What exactly do you mean by "obviously referencing Beckham's past with Washington's Josh Norman"?
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
No it’s sad that people try to justify it. That’s the sad part. Being fucking complacent makes you just as bad. That’s the sad part. People bllindly say oh he’s posted forever he can’t possibly be racist.
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
Nah- you're either in denial or overly sensitive. I don't want to get too into the weeds here, but racism = prejudice + power. All of us have prejudices, but white people are the predominant group with power. It's that simple- we're all racist and we all exist in a society build on white supremacy. You can deny and reject what i'm saying if you want, but I can promise you that those who don't have the privilege of whiteness don't have that luxury.
If you want to make this a better place, do the work to confront your own biases and those of the people you care about.
Why is that?
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Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
No it’s sad that people try to justify it. That’s the sad part. Being fucking complacent makes you just as bad. That’s the sad part. People bllindly say oh he’s posted forever he can’t possibly be racist.
So your reading is that the punchline is that Josh Norman is black and therefore a primate? It doesn't have anything to do with Josh Norman's antics and general douche baggery? Why isn't Beckham referred to as a primate if it's all about blackness?
I think you're reading too much into it. It was a glib joke that turns out is problematic because of the cultural implications it holds.
I don’t see where you could possibly equate Sinn Fein with PETA, ludicrous...
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Why is that?
You don’t believe this thread will be deleted? C’mon man.
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IMO. They’re like Sinn Fein used to be for the IRA.
I don’t see where you could possibly equate Sinn Fein with PETA, ludicrous...
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Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
No it’s sad that people try to justify it. That’s the sad part. Being fucking complacent makes you just as bad. That’s the sad part. People bllindly say oh he’s posted forever he can’t possibly be racist.
Am i trying to justisfy it it? No, but i also can see it can immediately being racist comment (instilled by society) but when you arent you can disconcern what IS and what ISN'T via objective comprehension. JCN comment wasnt (i hope) intended for it to be..as said, it wasnt great idea to comment on post like this, as you can see it immediately turned to that thought..racism..its sad its got worse and sad part it will continue.
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Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
No it’s sad that people try to justify it. That’s the sad part. Being fucking complacent makes you just as bad. That’s the sad part. People bllindly say oh he’s posted forever he can’t possibly be racist.
So your reading is that the punchline is that Josh Norman is black and therefore a primate? It doesn't have anything to do with Josh Norman's antics and general douche baggery? Why isn't Beckham referred to as a primate if it's all about blackness?
I think you're reading too much into it. It was a glib joke that turns out is problematic because of the cultural implications it holds.
If you wanted to refer to Norman as an animal because he's a jackass, calling him a donkey would make more sense. Seeing a chimp and thinking "Josh Norman joke!" might not be intended as racist. I'm not saying jcn overtly hates or fears black people. But comparing a black person to an ape IS racist.
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Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
No it’s sad that people try to justify it. That’s the sad part. Being fucking complacent makes you just as bad. That’s the sad part. People bllindly say oh he’s posted forever he can’t possibly be racist.
Am i trying to justisfy it it? No, but i also can see it can immediately being racist comment (instilled by society) but when you arent you can disconcern what IS and what ISN'T via objective comprehension. JCN comment wasnt (i hope) intended for it to be..as said, it wasnt great idea to comment on post like this, as you can see it immediately turned to that thought..racism..its sad its got worse and sad part it will continue.
JCN can't speak for himself now?
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Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
No it’s sad that people try to justify it. That’s the sad part. Being fucking complacent makes you just as bad. That’s the sad part. People bllindly say oh he’s posted forever he can’t possibly be racist.
So your reading is that the punchline is that Josh Norman is black and therefore a primate? It doesn't have anything to do with Josh Norman's antics and general douche baggery? Why isn't Beckham referred to as a primate if it's all about blackness?
I think you're reading too much into it. It was a glib joke that turns out is problematic because of the cultural implications it holds.
If you wanted to refer to Norman as an animal because he's a jackass, calling him a donkey would make more sense. Seeing a chimp and thinking "Josh Norman joke!" might not be intended as racist. I'm not saying jcn overtly hates or fears black people. But comparing a black person to an ape IS racist.
I 100% agree with that.
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Jcn comment i dont believe it to be intended that some right away jump right to..racism
Today racism is so instilled in humans its first thought anything close to it that is automatically assumed. Its sad that this world got worse with it. Understanding and comprehension of quote saying or word is lost nowadays. Very sad
No it’s sad that people try to justify it. That’s the sad part. Being fucking complacent makes you just as bad. That’s the sad part. People bllindly say oh he’s posted forever he can’t possibly be racist.
Am i trying to justisfy it it? No, but i also can see it can immediately being racist comment (instilled by society) but when you arent you can disconcern what IS and what ISN'T via objective comprehension. JCN comment wasnt (i hope) intended for it to be..as said, it wasnt great idea to comment on post like this, as you can see it immediately turned to that thought..racism..its sad its got worse and sad part it will continue.
JCN can't speak for himself now?
Not speaking..let him/her carry on..im done because nothing good comes with these conversations race, politics, or religion. Bottomline, this world is no good and the humans (all) that live in it.adios good luck before this thread is deleted
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Not the best joke to make for obvious reasons, but there's no doubt in my mind that it wasn't at all racially motivated or meant to be in poor taste. jcn has been around a long time - I've never seen him post anything remotely racist. Pretty safe to assume this was harmless.
These things aren’t harmless. I don’t care what he’s done before or how long he has posted. We are all adults and we know what words mean.
We're all adults which means we're all able to not jump to conclusions on intent, especially without the benefit of site and sound, even if the overtones are obvious to some of us.
That's the only way to maintain civility, to have a leg to stand on, and be a credible voice to learn from.
Correct yes, condemn, make sure you have right on your side.
Past behavior and actions are a good indicator of intent and he has been a reasonable, respectful, and tolerant poster in this community for many, many years.
Humans are primates, that's where I initially went. Do I understand others going somewhere else with the comment? Of course.
I prefer to give people of good character at least the benifit of explanation.