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McCarthy: Only wants Jets job

ryanmkeane : 1/8/2019 10:36 pm
Per Schefter...have to think this gets done soon
I don't think he knows what he's getting himself into  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/8/2019 10:38 pm : link
He got snippy and combative with media in Green Bay. The Jets job is not for someone who can't stand being questioned.
In his defense  
ryanmkeane : 1/8/2019 10:40 pm : link
he was the HC there for 12 seasons. Sooner or later things get snippy. I’m sure everything was pretty good most of the time there.
But do they want him?  
robbieballs2003 : 1/8/2019 10:40 pm : link
Not sure how I feel about McCarthy. Just like evaluating players when there aren't ideal situations like the level of competition sucks, they played with a great supporting cast, they rarely faced adverse situations, etc., it is difficult to evaluate him as a HC when he had arguably the most talented QB in the history of the NFL.
Though it is the Jets  
moespree : 1/8/2019 10:44 pm : link
It's about as attractive a job as the Jets are ever going to be at the moment. Good young QB, 3rd pick in the draft, and supposedly $60+ million in cap space. This is probably the peak for attractiveness for the Jets job.
McCarthy’s version of the WC has been called horseshit  
The_Boss : 1/8/2019 11:21 pm : link
It apparently only clicks with a 100% Aaron Rodgers. McAdoo ran it here and it never worked. Let’s see if it’s a true criticism: can he get Darnold humming like a 2009-2015 Aaron Rodgers?
Not a good HC  
TD : 1/9/2019 5:57 am : link
Jets probably have their pick of HCs this year because they have a great situation at the moment. I would not pursue McCarthy if I were them.
McCarthy has proven the test of time  
twostepgiants : 1/9/2019 6:15 am : link
The guy has lasted 12 years as a HC in NFL

He has 125 wins and over .600 win percentage

He has 10 playoff wins and an over .500 win percentage in playoffs

He has won a Super Bowl

He has also taken teams to 3 other NFC Championship games

Yes he has coached Aaron Rodgers & Brett Favre BUT what HC has won without a great QB??

The guys are Brian Billick, Jon Gruden, John Harbaugh.
None are considered great HCs

McCarthy is a good HC. He isnt Belichick. No one is. But he is good. He will make mistakes. He is beatable. But he will know how to use Darnold and more likely he will start taking them to playoffs and winning.
Not a McCarthy fan  
ZogZerg : 1/9/2019 6:42 am : link
But, the Jets could do a lot worse, and usually do.
RE: McCarthy has proven the test of time  
bradshaw44 : 1/9/2019 6:42 am : link
In comment 14255039 twostepgiants said:
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The guy has lasted 12 years as a HC in NFL

He has 125 wins and over .600 win percentage

He has 10 playoff wins and an over .500 win percentage in playoffs

He has won a Super Bowl

He has also taken teams to 3 other NFC Championship games

Yes he has coached Aaron Rodgers & Brett Favre BUT what HC has won without a great QB??

The guys are Brian Billick, Jon Gruden, John Harbaugh.
None are considered great HCs

McCarthy is a good HC. He isnt Belichick. No one is. But he is good. He will make mistakes. He is beatable. But he will know how to use Darnold and more likely he will start taking them to playoffs and winning.


This sums things up well. If Darnold is legit then there is no reason McCarthy can’t win with him. He can win with good quarterbacks.
RE: McCarthy has proven the test of time  
bw in dc : 1/9/2019 6:55 am : link
In comment 14255039 twostepgiants said:
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The guy has lasted 12 years as a HC in NFL

He has 125 wins and over .600 win percentage

He has 10 playoff wins and an over .500 win percentage in playoffs

He has won a Super Bowl

He has also taken teams to 3 other NFC Championship games

Yes he has coached Aaron Rodgers & Brett Favre BUT what HC has won without a great QB??

The guys are Brian Billick, Jon Gruden, John Harbaugh.
None are considered great HCs

McCarthy is a good HC. He isnt Belichick. No one is. But he is good. He will make mistakes. He is beatable. But he will know how to use Darnold and more likely he will start taking them to playoffs and winning.


Good summary. McCarthy didn’t start out with a polished ARod. In fact, ARod was very raw. The transition from Favre to ARod was not like Montana to Young, where Young had already demonstrated quality and wins.

No, there was a great unknown about Rodgers. And Rodgers took time to develop. Through good coaching by MCarthy and his staff, they helped ARod realize his immense potential.

The Jets would be wise to leverage all that experience and skill McCarthy brings to the table.
bw  
SLIM_ : 1/9/2019 8:29 am : link
Rodgers started in his 4th year and immediately showed how good he was. He may have been raw coming into the league but he backed up Favre for 3 years.

Not a big fan of McCarthy. Another poster made words to the effect that his is a garbage version of the West Coast offense which I do agree on. It never seems to make the necessary adjustments specifically in pass protection as they always have 5 receivers in the pattern and rely almost completely on the lineman to protect their QB. I think a good reason it has worked is that he has had 2 of the most improvisational QB's playing for him. Maybe they view Darnold that way. He has consistently won and is a very safe pick. In that regard, the Jets can do much worse.
RE: Though it is the Jets  
Matt in SGS : 1/9/2019 8:56 am : link
In comment 14254928 moespree said:
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It's about as attractive a job as the Jets are ever going to be at the moment. Good young QB, 3rd pick in the draft, and supposedly $60+ million in cap space. This is probably the peak for attractiveness for the Jets job.


And the New England machine is going to have to break down at some point. Brady and Belichick can't go on forever. Once they split, the AFC East is wide open and the Jets might actually be in the best position to take it over.
RE: RE: Though it is the Jets  
Big Blue '56 : 1/9/2019 8:59 am : link
In comment 14255104 Matt in SGS said:
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In comment 14254928 moespree said:


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It's about as attractive a job as the Jets are ever going to be at the moment. Good young QB, 3rd pick in the draft, and supposedly $60+ million in cap space. This is probably the peak for attractiveness for the Jets job.



And the New England machine is going to have to break down at some point. Brady and Belichick can't go on forever. Once they split, the AFC East is wide open and the Jets might actually be in the best position to take it over.


In 3 days it will have been 50 years, 50, since the Jets won their only SB appearance
I think he's trying to leverage the Jets  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/9/2019 9:02 am : link
for a better deal with the Browns.

I know there was some report about the Browns and him, but I don't buy it.
He't out of his mind if he chooses the Jets  
Jay on the Island : 1/9/2019 9:39 am : link
over the Browns. The Browns have significantly more talent and Mayfield played great for most of the season.
RE: McCarthy’s version of the WC has been called horseshit  
Section331 : 1/9/2019 9:51 am : link
In comment 14254955 The_Boss said:
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It apparently only clicks with a 100% Aaron Rodgers. McAdoo ran it here and it never worked. Let’s see if it’s a true criticism: can he get Darnold humming like a 2009-2015 Aaron Rodgers?


I think people overstate McCarthy's influence on McAdoo. I understand that some of McCarthy's concepts were stale, but they were still light years better than McAdoo's.

While you can point out that McCarthy had the good fortune of coaching 2 HOF-caliber QB's, should he get any credit for Rodgers' development? The guy dropped like a rock in the draft for a reason. Might not be the worst guy to bring in to work with Darnold.
All of this  
ryanmkeane : 1/9/2019 9:56 am : link
"McCarthy isn't a good coach" bullshit is hilarious. Dude is 125-77 as a coach, 10 postseason wins and a super bowl. Yeah, he's terrible..
RE: He't out of his mind if he chooses the Jets  
steve in ky : 1/9/2019 10:02 am : link
In comment 14255145 Jay on the Island said:
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over the Browns. The Browns have significantly more talent and Mayfield played great for most of the season.


From what I read the Browns aren't interested in him.
*  
Gmen88 : 1/9/2019 10:13 am : link
Can only get the Jets job is more like it. No one else is or has been interested.
If the Browns aren't interested  
Jay on the Island : 1/9/2019 10:16 am : link
I think a big reason is that they are concerned with how he will get along with another big personality in Mayfield. I am not saying that Mayfield is a huge asshole like Rodgers but Mayfield is very arrogant so maybe they are more concerned with that dynamic.
fwiw  
GiantGrit : 1/9/2019 11:05 am : link
Trent Dilfer is usually reserved in his criticism. When tweeting about Matt Lafleur going to GB, he said Lafleur is McCarthy "before he stopped grinding." Those are some heavy words to tweet out, i don't think he would do that unless he had multiple sources behind it.
Wonder  
mittenedman : 1/9/2019 11:10 am : link
if he'd bring back McAdoo as position coach? I doubt he gets another OC job but we'll see.
RE: He't out of his mind if he chooses the Jets  
bw in dc : 1/9/2019 11:22 am : link
In comment 14255145 Jay on the Island said:
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over the Browns. The Browns have significantly more talent and Mayfield played great for most of the season.


Apparently Freddie Kitchens is in the driver's seat...

Which would be a major surprise.
RE: bw  
bw in dc : 1/9/2019 11:27 am : link
In comment 14255092 SLIM_ said:
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Rodgers started in his 4th year and immediately showed how good he was. He may have been raw coming into the league but he backed up Favre for 3 years.

Not a big fan of McCarthy. Another poster made words to the effect that his is a garbage version of the West Coast offense which I do agree on. It never seems to make the necessary adjustments specifically in pass protection as they always have 5 receivers in the pattern and rely almost completely on the lineman to protect their QB. I think a good reason it has worked is that he has had 2 of the most improvisational QB's playing for him. Maybe they view Darnold that way. He has consistently won and is a very safe pick. In that regard, the Jets can do much worse.


I've heard the criticism about McCarthy's offense becoming one dimensional. I get it. However, there was also the Ted Thompson effect because he was largely driven to build the team through the draft and missed opportunities to add players in FA.

Back to Rodgers. I don't think anyone saw this level of play coming. He had this very mechanical, inefficient throwing stroke coming out of Cal. And the GB staff worked to change it. So kudos to the staff and Rodgers for making the change. And making it work.
RE: All of this  
lawguy9801 : 1/9/2019 11:46 am : link
In comment 14255174 ryanmkeane said:
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"McCarthy isn't a good coach" bullshit is hilarious. Dude is 125-77 as a coach, 10 postseason wins and a super bowl. Yeah, he's terrible..


Kind of like how Dwayne Haskins really is no good because he had too much time to throw at Ohio St.
RE: fwiw  
AcesUp : 1/9/2019 11:52 am : link
In comment 14255273 GiantGrit said:
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Trent Dilfer is usually reserved in his criticism. When tweeting about Matt Lafleur going to GB, he said Lafleur is McCarthy "before he stopped grinding." Those are some heavy words to tweet out, i don't think he would do that unless he had multiple sources behind it.


That's the constant criticism you see, he hasn't changed as a coach. They're running the same offense that Favre ran 15-20 years ago. His track record suggests he's a good head coach and he probably has a lot of the qualities you look for in that role but I would be concerned about the offensive system that he brings with him. However, failure is a good motivator and leaving GB the way he did may be what he needs to start updating his offense. Leaving behind the security blanket of Aaron Rodgers may initiate that change as well.

If I'm a Jets fan I'm pulling for Matt Rhule but going with McCarthy is probably a safer bet than chasing the next McVay.
McCarthy reminds me  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 1/9/2019 11:53 am : link
of Andy Reid. A really good HC that just needed a change of scenary. Yes he had Rodgers but he also was able to effectively manage that personality for the majority of AR career.

I think the Jets could do a lot worse... And have. A good hire.
RE: McCarthy reminds me  
Mr. Bungle : 1/9/2019 11:59 am : link
In comment 14255359 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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of Andy Reid. A really good HC that just needed a change of scenary. Yes he had Rodgers but he also was able to effectively manage that personality for the majority of AR career.

I think the Jets could do a lot worse... And have. A good hire.

He wasn't hired (yet).
McCarthy  
ryanmkeane : 1/9/2019 1:04 pm : link
was the HC for 12 seasons...same thing with Tomlin, Coughlin, etc. After awhile, unless you are a living legend there, it just gets stale.
Unreal  
PaulN : 1/9/2019 6:14 pm : link
This would be a great hire for the Jets and a fantastic opportunity for McCarthy, he would report to the owner, exactly what any head coach would want, he has near 100 mil in cap space, the 3rd pick in the draft and a very promising young franchise QB. I think he knows exactly what he is getting into, which is why he made the statement. It may kill Giant fans but this would bring back the old Jet fans even and start something great for them.
Plus  
PaulN : 1/9/2019 6:15 pm : link
How old is Tom Brady?
If Jets ownership paid attention  
morrison40 : 1/9/2019 6:47 pm : link
To MacAdoos version of Murphy’s offense , that would be a red flag to me
well, this is  
JayBinQueens : 1/9/2019 10:03 pm : link
awkward for McCarthy now...
He's taking the year off  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2019 10:15 pm : link
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1083178426641641472

With the #Jets job off the table, Mike McCarthy told me he’s sitting out this season — and his wife and kids started cheering at dinner when he told them. “Family excited about dad at home for 2019. That’s all that matters as we both know.” He’ll prepare and be ready for 2020.
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