Not sure how I feel about McCarthy. Just like evaluating players when there aren't ideal situations like the level of competition sucks, they played with a great supporting cast, they rarely faced adverse situations, etc., it is difficult to evaluate him as a HC when he had arguably the most talented QB in the history of the NFL.
It's about as attractive a job as the Jets are ever going to be at the moment. Good young QB, 3rd pick in the draft, and supposedly $60+ million in cap space. This is probably the peak for attractiveness for the Jets job.
McCarthy’s version of the WC has been called horseshit Â
It apparently only clicks with a 100% Aaron Rodgers. McAdoo ran it here and it never worked. Let’s see if it’s a true criticism: can he get Darnold humming like a 2009-2015 Aaron Rodgers?
He has 10 playoff wins and an over .500 win percentage in playoffs
He has won a Super Bowl
He has also taken teams to 3 other NFC Championship games
Yes he has coached Aaron Rodgers & Brett Favre BUT what HC has won without a great QB??
The guys are Brian Billick, Jon Gruden, John Harbaugh.
None are considered great HCs
McCarthy is a good HC. He isnt Belichick. No one is. But he is good. He will make mistakes. He is beatable. But he will know how to use Darnold and more likely he will start taking them to playoffs and winning.
He has 10 playoff wins and an over .500 win percentage in playoffs
He has won a Super Bowl
He has also taken teams to 3 other NFC Championship games
Yes he has coached Aaron Rodgers & Brett Favre BUT what HC has won without a great QB??
The guys are Brian Billick, Jon Gruden, John Harbaugh.
None are considered great HCs
McCarthy is a good HC. He isnt Belichick. No one is. But he is good. He will make mistakes. He is beatable. But he will know how to use Darnold and more likely he will start taking them to playoffs and winning.
This sums things up well. If Darnold is legit then there is no reason McCarthy can’t win with him. He can win with good quarterbacks.
He has 10 playoff wins and an over .500 win percentage in playoffs
He has won a Super Bowl
He has also taken teams to 3 other NFC Championship games
Yes he has coached Aaron Rodgers & Brett Favre BUT what HC has won without a great QB??
The guys are Brian Billick, Jon Gruden, John Harbaugh.
None are considered great HCs
McCarthy is a good HC. He isnt Belichick. No one is. But he is good. He will make mistakes. He is beatable. But he will know how to use Darnold and more likely he will start taking them to playoffs and winning.
Good summary. McCarthy didn’t start out with a polished ARod. In fact, ARod was very raw. The transition from Favre to ARod was not like Montana to Young, where Young had already demonstrated quality and wins.
No, there was a great unknown about Rodgers. And Rodgers took time to develop. Through good coaching by MCarthy and his staff, they helped ARod realize his immense potential.
The Jets would be wise to leverage all that experience and skill McCarthy brings to the table.
Rodgers started in his 4th year and immediately showed how good he was. He may have been raw coming into the league but he backed up Favre for 3 years.
Not a big fan of McCarthy. Another poster made words to the effect that his is a garbage version of the West Coast offense which I do agree on. It never seems to make the necessary adjustments specifically in pass protection as they always have 5 receivers in the pattern and rely almost completely on the lineman to protect their QB. I think a good reason it has worked is that he has had 2 of the most improvisational QB's playing for him. Maybe they view Darnold that way. He has consistently won and is a very safe pick. In that regard, the Jets can do much worse.
It's about as attractive a job as the Jets are ever going to be at the moment. Good young QB, 3rd pick in the draft, and supposedly $60+ million in cap space. This is probably the peak for attractiveness for the Jets job.
And the New England machine is going to have to break down at some point. Brady and Belichick can't go on forever. Once they split, the AFC East is wide open and the Jets might actually be in the best position to take it over.
It's about as attractive a job as the Jets are ever going to be at the moment. Good young QB, 3rd pick in the draft, and supposedly $60+ million in cap space. This is probably the peak for attractiveness for the Jets job.
And the New England machine is going to have to break down at some point. Brady and Belichick can't go on forever. Once they split, the AFC East is wide open and the Jets might actually be in the best position to take it over.
In 3 days it will have been 50 years, 50, since the Jets won their only SB appearance
It apparently only clicks with a 100% Aaron Rodgers. McAdoo ran it here and it never worked. Let’s see if it’s a true criticism: can he get Darnold humming like a 2009-2015 Aaron Rodgers?
I think people overstate McCarthy's influence on McAdoo. I understand that some of McCarthy's concepts were stale, but they were still light years better than McAdoo's.
While you can point out that McCarthy had the good fortune of coaching 2 HOF-caliber QB's, should he get any credit for Rodgers' development? The guy dropped like a rock in the draft for a reason. Might not be the worst guy to bring in to work with Darnold.
I think a big reason is that they are concerned with how he will get along with another big personality in Mayfield. I am not saying that Mayfield is a huge asshole like Rodgers but Mayfield is very arrogant so maybe they are more concerned with that dynamic.
Trent Dilfer is usually reserved in his criticism. When tweeting about Matt Lafleur going to GB, he said Lafleur is McCarthy "before he stopped grinding." Those are some heavy words to tweet out, i don't think he would do that unless he had multiple sources behind it.
Rodgers started in his 4th year and immediately showed how good he was. He may have been raw coming into the league but he backed up Favre for 3 years.
Not a big fan of McCarthy. Another poster made words to the effect that his is a garbage version of the West Coast offense which I do agree on. It never seems to make the necessary adjustments specifically in pass protection as they always have 5 receivers in the pattern and rely almost completely on the lineman to protect their QB. I think a good reason it has worked is that he has had 2 of the most improvisational QB's playing for him. Maybe they view Darnold that way. He has consistently won and is a very safe pick. In that regard, the Jets can do much worse.
I've heard the criticism about McCarthy's offense becoming one dimensional. I get it. However, there was also the Ted Thompson effect because he was largely driven to build the team through the draft and missed opportunities to add players in FA.
Back to Rodgers. I don't think anyone saw this level of play coming. He had this very mechanical, inefficient throwing stroke coming out of Cal. And the GB staff worked to change it. So kudos to the staff and Rodgers for making the change. And making it work.
Trent Dilfer is usually reserved in his criticism. When tweeting about Matt Lafleur going to GB, he said Lafleur is McCarthy "before he stopped grinding." Those are some heavy words to tweet out, i don't think he would do that unless he had multiple sources behind it.
That's the constant criticism you see, he hasn't changed as a coach. They're running the same offense that Favre ran 15-20 years ago. His track record suggests he's a good head coach and he probably has a lot of the qualities you look for in that role but I would be concerned about the offensive system that he brings with him. However, failure is a good motivator and leaving GB the way he did may be what he needs to start updating his offense. Leaving behind the security blanket of Aaron Rodgers may initiate that change as well.
If I'm a Jets fan I'm pulling for Matt Rhule but going with McCarthy is probably a safer bet than chasing the next McVay.
of Andy Reid. A really good HC that just needed a change of scenary. Yes he had Rodgers but he also was able to effectively manage that personality for the majority of AR career.
I think the Jets could do a lot worse... And have. A good hire.
of Andy Reid. A really good HC that just needed a change of scenary. Yes he had Rodgers but he also was able to effectively manage that personality for the majority of AR career.
I think the Jets could do a lot worse... And have. A good hire.
This would be a great hire for the Jets and a fantastic opportunity for McCarthy, he would report to the owner, exactly what any head coach would want, he has near 100 mil in cap space, the 3rd pick in the draft and a very promising young franchise QB. I think he knows exactly what he is getting into, which is why he made the statement. It may kill Giant fans but this would bring back the old Jet fans even and start something great for them.
With the #Jets job off the table, Mike McCarthy told me he’s sitting out this season — and his wife and kids started cheering at dinner when he told them. “Family excited about dad at home for 2019. That’s all that matters as we both know.” He’ll prepare and be ready for 2020.
He has 125 wins and over .600 win percentage
He has 10 playoff wins and an over .500 win percentage in playoffs
He has won a Super Bowl
He has also taken teams to 3 other NFC Championship games
Yes he has coached Aaron Rodgers & Brett Favre BUT what HC has won without a great QB??
The guys are Brian Billick, Jon Gruden, John Harbaugh.
None are considered great HCs
McCarthy is a good HC. He isnt Belichick. No one is. But he is good. He will make mistakes. He is beatable. But he will know how to use Darnold and more likely he will start taking them to playoffs and winning.
He has 125 wins and over .600 win percentage
He has 10 playoff wins and an over .500 win percentage in playoffs
He has won a Super Bowl
He has also taken teams to 3 other NFC Championship games
Yes he has coached Aaron Rodgers & Brett Favre BUT what HC has won without a great QB??
The guys are Brian Billick, Jon Gruden, John Harbaugh.
None are considered great HCs
McCarthy is a good HC. He isnt Belichick. No one is. But he is good. He will make mistakes. He is beatable. But he will know how to use Darnold and more likely he will start taking them to playoffs and winning.
This sums things up well. If Darnold is legit then there is no reason McCarthy can’t win with him. He can win with good quarterbacks.
He has 125 wins and over .600 win percentage
He has 10 playoff wins and an over .500 win percentage in playoffs
He has won a Super Bowl
He has also taken teams to 3 other NFC Championship games
Yes he has coached Aaron Rodgers & Brett Favre BUT what HC has won without a great QB??
The guys are Brian Billick, Jon Gruden, John Harbaugh.
None are considered great HCs
McCarthy is a good HC. He isnt Belichick. No one is. But he is good. He will make mistakes. He is beatable. But he will know how to use Darnold and more likely he will start taking them to playoffs and winning.
Good summary. McCarthy didn’t start out with a polished ARod. In fact, ARod was very raw. The transition from Favre to ARod was not like Montana to Young, where Young had already demonstrated quality and wins.
No, there was a great unknown about Rodgers. And Rodgers took time to develop. Through good coaching by MCarthy and his staff, they helped ARod realize his immense potential.
The Jets would be wise to leverage all that experience and skill McCarthy brings to the table.
Not a big fan of McCarthy. Another poster made words to the effect that his is a garbage version of the West Coast offense which I do agree on. It never seems to make the necessary adjustments specifically in pass protection as they always have 5 receivers in the pattern and rely almost completely on the lineman to protect their QB. I think a good reason it has worked is that he has had 2 of the most improvisational QB's playing for him. Maybe they view Darnold that way. He has consistently won and is a very safe pick. In that regard, the Jets can do much worse.
And the New England machine is going to have to break down at some point. Brady and Belichick can't go on forever. Once they split, the AFC East is wide open and the Jets might actually be in the best position to take it over.
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It's about as attractive a job as the Jets are ever going to be at the moment. Good young QB, 3rd pick in the draft, and supposedly $60+ million in cap space. This is probably the peak for attractiveness for the Jets job.
And the New England machine is going to have to break down at some point. Brady and Belichick can't go on forever. Once they split, the AFC East is wide open and the Jets might actually be in the best position to take it over.
In 3 days it will have been 50 years, 50, since the Jets won their only SB appearance
I know there was some report about the Browns and him, but I don't buy it.
I think people overstate McCarthy's influence on McAdoo. I understand that some of McCarthy's concepts were stale, but they were still light years better than McAdoo's.
While you can point out that McCarthy had the good fortune of coaching 2 HOF-caliber QB's, should he get any credit for Rodgers' development? The guy dropped like a rock in the draft for a reason. Might not be the worst guy to bring in to work with Darnold.
From what I read the Browns aren't interested in him.
Apparently Freddie Kitchens is in the driver's seat...
Which would be a major surprise.
Not a big fan of McCarthy. Another poster made words to the effect that his is a garbage version of the West Coast offense which I do agree on. It never seems to make the necessary adjustments specifically in pass protection as they always have 5 receivers in the pattern and rely almost completely on the lineman to protect their QB. I think a good reason it has worked is that he has had 2 of the most improvisational QB's playing for him. Maybe they view Darnold that way. He has consistently won and is a very safe pick. In that regard, the Jets can do much worse.
I've heard the criticism about McCarthy's offense becoming one dimensional. I get it. However, there was also the Ted Thompson effect because he was largely driven to build the team through the draft and missed opportunities to add players in FA.
Back to Rodgers. I don't think anyone saw this level of play coming. He had this very mechanical, inefficient throwing stroke coming out of Cal. And the GB staff worked to change it. So kudos to the staff and Rodgers for making the change. And making it work.
Kind of like how Dwayne Haskins really is no good because he had too much time to throw at Ohio St.
That's the constant criticism you see, he hasn't changed as a coach. They're running the same offense that Favre ran 15-20 years ago. His track record suggests he's a good head coach and he probably has a lot of the qualities you look for in that role but I would be concerned about the offensive system that he brings with him. However, failure is a good motivator and leaving GB the way he did may be what he needs to start updating his offense. Leaving behind the security blanket of Aaron Rodgers may initiate that change as well.
If I'm a Jets fan I'm pulling for Matt Rhule but going with McCarthy is probably a safer bet than chasing the next McVay.
I think the Jets could do a lot worse... And have. A good hire.
I think the Jets could do a lot worse... And have. A good hire.
He wasn't hired (yet).
With the #Jets job off the table, Mike McCarthy told me he’s sitting out this season — and his wife and kids started cheering at dinner when he told them. “Family excited about dad at home for 2019. That’s all that matters as we both know.” He’ll prepare and be ready for 2020.