I am not familiar with his draft history. But if there was ever a year to trade down (unless there is something amazing available) this is it. Would love to pick up a a second second rounder
No way we trade down unless we consider this a five man draft and all five get selected with the first five picks.
We are going to take a difference maker. Probably a defensive player. We could use a real presence on that side of the ball. It could be the QB from Ohio State, but I don't think he checks enough boxes to go that high. I believe that we'll have several players available to us that rank much higher.
Didn't he trade down with the Bills last year for their 2 #1s Â
never traded down. I think it's part of his "don't get cute' attitude. I think he's more likely to trade up into round three with some of our day three picks for a player who unexpectedly falls, which seems to happen every year.
You should always obviously listen, but I generally don't favor trading down from within the top 10. I also don't see the need to trade down this year with all our day three picks. My problem is that neither DG or Reese have ever traded down in any round. I think the last time the Giants traded down was to acquire Kiwi.
The reason to trade down would be to get extra picks for next year (not this) to give ammunition for a trade up for a QB - potentially.
The alternative would be to trade down in the second to pick up or have enough fuel (with some of this year's additional picks this year) to pick up another 3rd.
never traded down. I think it's part of his "don't get cute' attitude. I think he's more likely to trade up into round three with some of our day three picks for a player who unexpectedly falls, which seems to happen every year.
You should always obviously listen, but I generally don't favor trading down from within the top 10. I also don't see the need to trade down this year with all our day three picks. My problem is that neither DG or Reese have ever traded down in any round. I think the last time the Giants traded down was to acquire Kiwi.
Yup .....
People desperately want trade downs every year in the first round. Â
Because of Eli's age, performance, and contract status, and the two very relevant facts that
1) It is very probable that no QB in the 2019 class will justify the #6 pick
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2) The 2020 QB class is expected to be exceptional.
Therefore, a trade down, if it nets an ADDITIONAL 2020 1st rounder, would make a lot of sense. If you're not going to get your franchise QB in this draft, or you want to have a backup plan for 2020 for a franchise QB in case a QB you take one this year in say, rounds 2-7, and you don't want to have all your "franchise QB" eggs in one basket, trading down makes a lot of sense.
Getting another team's 2020 first rounder gives you two chances to naturally be in a high enough draft position to acquire the desired QB, as well as gives you enough ammo to trade up if needed to get "the guy."
I definitely think a trade down this year is warranted, but a 2020 1st MUST be part of the return.
blend of arrogance and narrow-mindedness to NEVER trade down.
Only if they refuse to consider it. Not having done it doesn't indicate that at all because we don't know if or how many times the opportunity even presented itself, or what the offers were if they had.
blend of arrogance and narrow-mindedness to NEVER trade down.
Only if they refuse to consider it. Not having done it doesn't indicate that at all because we don't know if or how many times the opportunity even presented itself, or what the offers were if they had.
Exactly, why do so many fans here think it’s so easy to trade up or down?!
blend of arrogance and narrow-mindedness to NEVER trade down.
Only if they refuse to consider it. Not having done it doesn't indicate that at all because we don't know if or how many times the opportunity even presented itself, or what the offers were if they had.
what's more likely? The GM in question (and his predecessor) have certain personality traits that have resulted in their respective track records on draft day....or neither of them have ever received a SINGLE worthwhile opportunity to trade opposed across DOZENS of draft picks.
We are going to take a difference maker. Probably a defensive player. We could use a real presence on that side of the ball. It could be the QB from Ohio State, but I don't think he checks enough boxes to go that high. I believe that we'll have several players available to us that rank much higher.
I don’t know if that s accurate. But as much as I dismiss Dottino don’t think he would be wrong about this.
I m not sure if he was speaking about trading up or down.
I don’t know if that s accurate. But as much as I dismiss Dottino don’t think he would be wrong about this.
I m not sure if he was speaking about trading up or down.
Well he didn’t move in last year’s draft
You should always obviously listen, but I generally don't favor trading down from within the top 10. I also don't see the need to trade down this year with all our day three picks. My problem is that neither DG or Reese have ever traded down in any round. I think the last time the Giants traded down was to acquire Kiwi.
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Dottino said he almost always moves in the draft.
I don’t know if that s accurate. But as much as I dismiss Dottino don’t think he would be wrong about this.
I m not sure if he was speaking about trading up or down.
Well he didn’t move in last year’s draft
I'm not sure, but I think he tried to trade up for Carter, but the price was too high.
The alternative would be to trade down in the second to pick up or have enough fuel (with some of this year's additional picks this year) to pick up another 3rd.
Round 2 - Pick No. 38
Round 4 - Pick No. 102 , Pick No. 127 (via New Orleans Saints)*
Round 5 - Pick No. 131, Pick No. 132 (via Detroit Lions)
Round 6 - Pick No. 166
Round 7 - Pick No. 209 (via Minnesota Vikings)*, Pick No. 221 (via Los Angeles Rams)*
*Picks are approximate, based on current NFL and playoff standings
It's a total of eleven picks. That gives DG some room to maneuver around.
Round 2 - Pick No. 38
Round 4 - Pick No. 102 , Pick No. 127 (via New Orleans Saints)*
Round 5 - Pick No. 131, Pick No. 132 (via Detroit Lions)
Round 6 - Pick No. 166
Round 7 - Pick No. 209 (via Minnesota Vikings)*, Pick No. 221 (via Los Angeles Rams)*
*Picks are approximate, based on current NFL and playoff standings
It's a total of eleven picks. That gives DG some room to maneuver around.
You are leaving out the the comp picks for Pugh (4th) and Kennard (5th).
Wait........I forgot we traded our 6th for Ogletree.
Roughly the same percentage of GMs who trade up
You should always obviously listen, but I generally don't favor trading down from within the top 10. I also don't see the need to trade down this year with all our day three picks. My problem is that neither DG or Reese have ever traded down in any round. I think the last time the Giants traded down was to acquire Kiwi.
Yup .....
Traded down for Kiwanuka I believe
1) It is very probable that no QB in the 2019 class will justify the #6 pick
&
2) The 2020 QB class is expected to be exceptional.
Therefore, a trade down, if it nets an ADDITIONAL 2020 1st rounder, would make a lot of sense. If you're not going to get your franchise QB in this draft, or you want to have a backup plan for 2020 for a franchise QB in case a QB you take one this year in say, rounds 2-7, and you don't want to have all your "franchise QB" eggs in one basket, trading down makes a lot of sense.
Getting another team's 2020 first rounder gives you two chances to naturally be in a high enough draft position to acquire the desired QB, as well as gives you enough ammo to trade up if needed to get "the guy."
I definitely think a trade down this year is warranted, but a 2020 1st MUST be part of the return.
I don’t know if that s accurate. But as much as I dismiss Dottino don’t think he would be wrong about this.
I m not sure if he was speaking about trading up or down.
He traded up 6/34 times in Carolina. That's nearly 20% of the time, pretty incredible even if the sample size is small.
For every trade up, somebody is trading down!
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But really what percentage of GM's have?
For every trade up, somebody is trading down!
Of course but that doesn't mean equal numbers have done both. Some GM's may have traded down multiple times with a variety of teams over the years.
Only if they refuse to consider it. Not having done it doesn't indicate that at all because we don't know if or how many times the opportunity even presented itself, or what the offers were if they had.
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blend of arrogance and narrow-mindedness to NEVER trade down.
Only if they refuse to consider it. Not having done it doesn't indicate that at all because we don't know if or how many times the opportunity even presented itself, or what the offers were if they had.
Exactly, why do so many fans here think it’s so easy to trade up or down?!
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blend of arrogance and narrow-mindedness to NEVER trade down.
Only if they refuse to consider it. Not having done it doesn't indicate that at all because we don't know if or how many times the opportunity even presented itself, or what the offers were if they had.
what's more likely? The GM in question (and his predecessor) have certain personality traits that have resulted in their respective track records on draft day....or neither of them have ever received a SINGLE worthwhile opportunity to trade opposed across DOZENS of draft picks.
It's not like Gettleman has been a GM for a long time.
Such as:
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35
38
Etc. What you have left.
Use first 3 on Defense