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Has DG ever traded down?

since1925 : 1/8/2019 11:09 pm
I am not familiar with his draft history. But if there was ever a year to trade down (unless there is something amazing available) this is it. Would love to pick up a a second second rounder
From info on this site  
gmenatlarge : 1/8/2019 11:20 pm : link
He never has...
I don't  
Photoguy : 1/8/2019 11:38 pm : link
know where you'd go to get that info other than tracking the drafts he was responsible for with Carolina.
No way  
GeorgeAdams33 : 1/9/2019 2:00 am : link
No way we trade down unless we consider this a five man draft and all five get selected with the first five picks.

We are going to take a difference maker. Probably a defensive player. We could use a real presence on that side of the ball. It could be the QB from Ohio State, but I don't think he checks enough boxes to go that high. I believe that we'll have several players available to us that rank much higher.
Didn't he trade down with the Bills last year for their 2 #1s  
ZogZerg : 1/9/2019 6:43 am : link
and 2 #2s..... Oh wait, that was the talk on BBI for 4 months leading up to the draft, I get confused.
On BBK this week  
joeinpa : 1/9/2019 6:57 am : link
Dottino said he almost always moves in the draft.

I donít know if that s accurate. But as much as I dismiss Dottino donít think he would be wrong about this.

I m not sure if he was speaking about trading up or down.
RE: On BBK this week  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/9/2019 7:41 am : link
In comment 14255059 joeinpa said:
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Dottino said he almost always moves in the draft.

I donít know if that s accurate. But as much as I dismiss Dottino donít think he would be wrong about this.

I m not sure if he was speaking about trading up or down.


Well he didnít move in last yearís draft
At Carolina  
George : 1/9/2019 8:21 am : link
When he moved, he moved up, not down. That's not to say he'll do that again in 2019 though.
He's  
AcidTest : 1/9/2019 8:27 am : link
never traded down. I think it's part of his "don't get cute' attitude. I think he's more likely to trade up into round three with some of our day three picks for a player who unexpectedly falls, which seems to happen every year.

You should always obviously listen, but I generally don't favor trading down from within the top 10. I also don't see the need to trade down this year with all our day three picks. My problem is that neither DG or Reese have ever traded down in any round. I think the last time the Giants traded down was to acquire Kiwi.
RE: RE: On BBK this week  
AcidTest : 1/9/2019 8:27 am : link
In comment 14255068 McNally's_Nuts said:
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In comment 14255059 joeinpa said:


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Dottino said he almost always moves in the draft.

I donít know if that s accurate. But as much as I dismiss Dottino donít think he would be wrong about this.

I m not sure if he was speaking about trading up or down.



Well he didnít move in last yearís draft


I'm not sure, but I think he tried to trade up for Carter, but the price was too high.
Acid  
SLIM_ : 1/9/2019 8:36 am : link
The reason to trade down would be to get extra picks for next year (not this) to give ammunition for a trade up for a QB - potentially.

The alternative would be to trade down in the second to pick up or have enough fuel (with some of this year's additional picks this year) to pick up another 3rd.
We have our own 1st (6) and 2nd (38) rounders  
since1925 : 1/9/2019 9:53 am : link
Round 1 - Pick No. 6

Round 2 - Pick No. 38

Round 4 - Pick No. 102 , Pick No. 127 (via New Orleans Saints)*

Round 5 - Pick No. 131, Pick No. 132 (via Detroit Lions)

Round 6 - Pick No. 166

Round 7 - Pick No. 209 (via Minnesota Vikings)*, Pick No. 221 (via Los Angeles Rams)*

*Picks are approximate, based on current NFL and playoff standings

It's a total of eleven picks. That gives DG some room to maneuver around.

I have read this critic often  
steve in ky : 1/9/2019 10:04 am : link
But really what percentage of GM's have?
RE: We have our own 1st (6) and 2nd (38) rounders  
Diver_Down : 1/9/2019 10:12 am : link
In comment 14255169 since1925 said:
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Round 1 - Pick No. 6

Round 2 - Pick No. 38

Round 4 - Pick No. 102 , Pick No. 127 (via New Orleans Saints)*

Round 5 - Pick No. 131, Pick No. 132 (via Detroit Lions)

Round 6 - Pick No. 166

Round 7 - Pick No. 209 (via Minnesota Vikings)*, Pick No. 221 (via Los Angeles Rams)*

*Picks are approximate, based on current NFL and playoff standings

It's a total of eleven picks. That gives DG some room to maneuver around.


You are leaving out the the comp picks for Pugh (4th) and Kennard (5th).
Didn't we  
Photoguy : 1/9/2019 10:51 am : link
get a 6th from N.O. in addition to the 4th for Apple. Seems I remember we did. Or is #166 that pick?
RE: Didn't we  
Photoguy : 1/9/2019 10:51 am : link
In comment 14255243 Photoguy said:
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get a 6th from N.O. in addition to the 4th for Apple. Seems I remember we did. Or is #166 that pick?



Wait........I forgot we traded our 6th for Ogletree.
RE: I have read this critic often  
Mitty81 : 1/9/2019 10:52 am : link
In comment 14255187 steve in ky said:
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But really what percentage of GM's have?


Roughly the same percentage of GMs who trade up
RE: He's  
MotownGIANTS : 1/9/2019 12:13 pm : link
In comment 14255088 AcidTest said:
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never traded down. I think it's part of his "don't get cute' attitude. I think he's more likely to trade up into round three with some of our day three picks for a player who unexpectedly falls, which seems to happen every year.

You should always obviously listen, but I generally don't favor trading down from within the top 10. I also don't see the need to trade down this year with all our day three picks. My problem is that neither DG or Reese have ever traded down in any round. I think the last time the Giants traded down was to acquire Kiwi.


Yup .....
People desperately want trade downs every year in the first round.  
Britt in VA : 1/9/2019 12:18 pm : link
I can't remember the last time the Giants actually did trade down in the 1st round? Anybody?
RE: People desperately want trade downs every year in the first round.  
Disturbed1 : 1/9/2019 12:19 pm : link
In comment 14255422 Britt in VA said:
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I can't remember the last time the Giants actually did trade down in the 1st round? Anybody?


Traded down for Kiwanuka I believe
This year is such a unique situation  
allstarjim : 1/9/2019 1:48 pm : link
Because of Eli's age, performance, and contract status, and the two very relevant facts that

1) It is very probable that no QB in the 2019 class will justify the #6 pick

&

2) The 2020 QB class is expected to be exceptional.

Therefore, a trade down, if it nets an ADDITIONAL 2020 1st rounder, would make a lot of sense. If you're not going to get your franchise QB in this draft, or you want to have a backup plan for 2020 for a franchise QB in case a QB you take one this year in say, rounds 2-7, and you don't want to have all your "franchise QB" eggs in one basket, trading down makes a lot of sense.

Getting another team's 2020 first rounder gives you two chances to naturally be in a high enough draft position to acquire the desired QB, as well as gives you enough ammo to trade up if needed to get "the guy."

I definitely think a trade down this year is warranted, but a 2020 1st MUST be part of the return.
RE: On BBK this week  
Strahan91 : 1/9/2019 2:23 pm : link
In comment 14255059 joeinpa said:
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Dottino said he almost always moves in the draft.

I donít know if that s accurate. But as much as I dismiss Dottino donít think he would be wrong about this.

I m not sure if he was speaking about trading up or down.

He traded up 6/34 times in Carolina. That's nearly 20% of the time, pretty incredible even if the sample size is small.
RE: I have read this critic often  
.McL. : 1/9/2019 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14255187 steve in ky said:
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But really what percentage of GM's have?

For every trade up, somebody is trading down!
RE: RE: I have read this critic often  
steve in ky : 1/9/2019 7:34 pm : link
In comment 14255727 .McL. said:
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In comment 14255187 steve in ky said:


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But really what percentage of GM's have?


For every trade up, somebody is trading down!


Of course but that doesn't mean equal numbers have done both. Some GM's may have traded down multiple times with a variety of teams over the years.
it really takes a special  
Enzo : 1/9/2019 7:41 pm : link
blend of arrogance and narrow-mindedness to NEVER trade down.
"They're all buying...then sell"  
Jimmy Googs : 1/9/2019 7:41 pm : link
"They're are selling...then buy!"



RE: it really takes a special  
steve in ky : 1/9/2019 7:44 pm : link
In comment 14256046 Enzo said:
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blend of arrogance and narrow-mindedness to NEVER trade down.


Only if they refuse to consider it. Not having done it doesn't indicate that at all because we don't know if or how many times the opportunity even presented itself, or what the offers were if they had.
RE: RE: it really takes a special  
Ssanders9816 : 1/9/2019 7:49 pm : link
In comment 14256051 steve in ky said:
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In comment 14256046 Enzo said:


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blend of arrogance and narrow-mindedness to NEVER trade down.



Only if they refuse to consider it. Not having done it doesn't indicate that at all because we don't know if or how many times the opportunity even presented itself, or what the offers were if they had.


Exactly, why do so many fans here think itís so easy to trade up or down?!
RE: RE: it really takes a special  
Enzo : 1/9/2019 10:13 pm : link
In comment 14256051 steve in ky said:
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In comment 14256046 Enzo said:


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blend of arrogance and narrow-mindedness to NEVER trade down.



Only if they refuse to consider it. Not having done it doesn't indicate that at all because we don't know if or how many times the opportunity even presented itself, or what the offers were if they had.

what's more likely? The GM in question (and his predecessor) have certain personality traits that have resulted in their respective track records on draft day....or neither of them have ever received a SINGLE worthwhile opportunity to trade opposed across DOZENS of draft picks.
Every year is different. And it all depends  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/9/2019 10:16 pm : link
on how you value the players available at the time.

It's not like Gettleman has been a GM for a long time.
Whereas typically I am a trade down  
idiotsavant : 1/9/2019 10:21 pm : link
Advocate, this year i am suggesting sit tight at 6, trade to Garner additional high 2nd rounder.

Such as:

6
35
38

Etc. What you have left.

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