Assuming Bosa/Quinnen/Josh Allen (clear Top 3) off the board
This dude Oliver is incredible at pushing and disrupting the pocket up the middle. Every time he has 1 blocker on him, he pushes his guy back. The rest of the time, he is doubled/tripled.
Gerald McCoy 2.0
Gettleman loves his DTs
Would be a 3-4 DE in this scheme next to Hill and Tomlinson
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Someone is going to make a stupid offer to get him way before 6 I recall when he was a top recruit. Good kid. Good head on his shoulders. And despite all the stuff about how easy he had it IMO his skill set fits the NFL. Meyer has then adjust The Who Power Spread ro more a a pro set for him. To me that says a lot
Ed Oliver checks off every box:
- Blue-Chip talent with elite Pro-Bowl upside
- Plays a premium position that Gettleman obsesses over (Interior DL)
- Fills a need (starting 3-4 DE next to Hill/Tomlinson)
- BPA
No, QB is not a need in 2019 and Gettleman doesn't draft shitty QBs with Top 10 picks
Huh? That's literally backwards. He's a pass-rushing DT who gets upfield. He is compared to Aaron Donald, Dominique Easley. His weakness is his lateral anchor against the run.
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Strong against the run, but little or no pass rush. Probably a big overdraft at 6.
Huh? That's literally backwards. He's a pass-rushing DT who gets upfield. He is compared to Aaron Donald, Dominique Easley. His weakness is his lateral anchor against the run.
I agree. It is backwards. Oliver has a tremendous first step and quickness. If anything, he overruns running plays. But he is a disruptive force getting to the backfield. I see a lot of Warren Sapp.
Like Matty said: if he's still on the board, but likely he'll be gone because the Jags or Broncs will jump us. He's prolly the best QB this year and def a first round talent... so if you need a QB, he's your guy. Fact is, Broncs and Jags need him even more than the Gmen do. Keep Jamon Brown, upgrade OC and RT, and Eli will ball just fine.
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13!
There is a good chance that picking at 6 you get a top 3 or 4 overall DL or olb defender assuming that someone picking 1-5 has need on offense and/or another team reads value slightly differently. Maybe even a top 2.
And- it's also highly likely that a few of those 13 will still be available top of round 2.
It's an unusual situation and given that teams ran on us late in games and moved and passed the ball late in games appears a no brainer.
Agreed.. Haskins throwing to OBJ Shep, Engram and Barkley
Sign me up
Nice, but show me some clips where he doesn't have all day to throw to wide open receivers.
If there is a top 4 -overall- defender sitting there, and your top QB is say, 15th overall ...at best, that's typically an order of magnitude below in terms of how unusual the player is.
Expect a similar situation at #38 as well. A few Top 15 overall defenders vs more or less in the 30s overall - everything else.
Also. I never liked QBs from dominant college programs with big o lines.
Other than B, I think the others were legitimately stating their preference for Haskins. Brace yourself because any attempt to discuss other prospects for the next 3 1/2 months will be drowned out by those who are incapable of processing an opposing thought with cries for Haskins. What will be even worse, is that when Haskins is sitting there at #6 and DG chooses a different player, we will be treated to the summary conclusion that DG is an old, slobbering, fool who has no idea what he is doing. The Sammy Sycophants have quieted down only to prop up their latest idol.
Same thing here. If there is a player with freakish unusual ability at DT, or DL or OLB that will be the choice vs a 'reasonably good bet' at QB.
Or the great DLs and front 7s from the epic teams of you're.
Being able to blow shit up up front on big downs is just fun to watch, and gives your offense more leeway.
#1- Look at his deep passes. He throws them very smoothly, no herky jerk motion or over use of the body to throw deep. The passes have great arc and hit their man in stride. We have not seen deep passes in stride in forever. Eli's deep passes have not been the same since 2011.
#2- He moves enough to make the throws but doesn't just take off running. His mechanics stay solid even while moving.
#3- He gets the ball out quickly and with force. Yes, a little behind on some crossing routes but, we have seen far worse over the last few years. He is young and can develop.
I am not yet 100% saying draft Haskins if there but, I would not be upset if we did. All this 2020/2021 talk is BS. You cannot assume we will be there to get any of those QB's.
I think at least 1 of the QBs will rise considerably in the off season. This happens every year. Wouldn't be surprised to see 2 of Haskins, Lock, Jones go top 6.
Think 2002 bucs, 2000 Ravens, 85 bears, 2011 Giants...like that.
And, it's annoying.
He has a pretty damn good arm
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And that is fair when a discussion is about who to draft at #6. But literally the thread is about DT Ed Oliver, yet right away, the cacaphony for Haskins drowns out any discussion and the thread devolves into a pro/con Haskins thread.
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And, it's annoying.
I actually heard Boomer say today the Giants should trade up to #1 to get him. He said it's a no brainer based on the 100 plays of him he watched. So basically seven plays a game. Lol.
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All aboard thats coming aboard.
And, it's annoying.
I actually heard Boomer say today the Giants should trade up to #1 to get him. He said it's a no brainer based on the 100 plays of him he watched. So basically seven plays a game. Lol.
That might be a little more than most have watched of Haskins, grin.