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Anakim : 1/9/2019 10:47 am
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New York and Sacramento discussing an Enes Kanter-Zach Randolph trade of expiring contracts, but nothing close yet, league sources tell ESPN. Kings would want to send out more expirings in a deal. Kanter is out of rotation and wants chance to play. A third team could be helpful.
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DanMetroMan : 1/10/2019 12:42 pm : link
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In order to become an unrestricted free agent in 2020, Kristaps Porzingis would have to leave 150 million dollars on the table and, instead, willingly choose to play for just $7.5 million.
That was always the case  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/10/2019 1:58 pm : link
But "Will KP re-sign with the Knicks" is a sexier story.

The NBA CBA makes it a very difficult choice for players to leave their original teams.
Who is pushing this Spurs are interested story?  
Really : 1/10/2019 2:03 pm : link
It makes so little sense. I feel like if it was Janis, the whole industry would know?
RE: Who is pushing this Spurs are interested story?  
nygiants16 : 1/10/2019 2:18 pm : link
In comment 14256972 Really said:
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It makes so little sense. I feel like if it was Janis, the whole industry would know?


I think it is a made up story by bondy to generate clicks, it is what the dailynews does
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Anakim : 1/10/2019 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14257003 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14256972 Really said:


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It makes so little sense. I feel like if it was Janis, the whole industry would know?



I think it is a made up story by bondy to generate clicks, it is what the dailynews does


Probably, or he was just adding 2 and 2 together because KP seems like the ultimate Pops player.
Preach!  
DanMetroMan : 1/10/2019 2:23 pm : link
ESPNís Adrian Wojnarowski reported on Wednesday that the Kings and Knicks are discussing a trade centering around Enes Kanter and Zach Randolph. According to Wojnarowski, the two sides arenít currently close to completing a deal, as the Kings would prefer to part with additional expiring contracts.

A swap of Kanter for Randolph would be a cap-neutral move for New York. Although it would save owner Jim Dolan some money this year, contracts for both players expire at the end of this season. Thus, it wouldnít help the Knicks clear any additional cap space for 2019-20 and beyond.

However, since the two teams are already engaged in trade conversations, New York should undoubtedly gauge Sacramentoís interest in Tim Hardaway Jr. and Courtney Lee.

The Kings already have a pair of quality wing scorers on their roster in Buddy Hield and Bogdan Bogdanovic. Yet, the presence of these two sharpshooters did not stop Sacramento from signing Chicago Bulls restricted free agent Zach LaVine to a four-year, $78 million offer sheet back in July. The Bulls ended up matching the Kings offer, and LaVine remained in the Windy City. The Kings ended up signing Yogi Ferrell to a two-year $6.2 million pact later in July. However, Ferrell hasnít lived up to expectations in Sacramento, as heís averaging 5.8 points in 13.6 minutes. Heís also been a liability defensively. Of all rotation regulars, Ferrell has the lowest Net Rating on the team.
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Anakim : 1/10/2019 3:33 pm : link
keep tanking  
spike : 1/10/2019 5:08 pm : link
Zion to the NYK.
Ja  
Jon in NYC : 1/10/2019 5:13 pm : link
up to 4 is interesting. I really think he could be the guy anywhere from 3 on.
I get that the NBA doesn't really care about college performance  
Greg from LI : 1/10/2019 5:14 pm : link
But Nassir Little has been horrible. His minutes are drying up now that the cupcake section of the schedule is over - only played 17 minutes against the Wolfpack and looked completely bewildered when he was out there. Terrific athlete, but everything else looks awful right now.
Would  
Jon in NYC : 1/10/2019 5:19 pm : link
be such a mess if they ended up with Little.
Sure would be nice to get some lottery luck this year.  
bceagle05 : 1/10/2019 5:33 pm : link
I'd say we're overdue, and Zion would look damn good in blue and orange.
Need to make a trade that clears a roster spot  
barknbite : 1/11/2019 12:41 am : link
in order to sign a young (hopefully) stud to the G-League.
Westbrook is insane  
adamg : 1/11/2019 1:41 am : link
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Russell Westbrook had 24 points, 13 rebounds and a career-high 24 assists in Thursday's 2OT loss at the Spurs.

According to @EliasSports, he's the first player in NBA history to reach those numbers in a game. It's also ties the most assists in a triple-double in NBA history.
Ja Morant has a dunk last night  
dep026 : 1/11/2019 7:45 am : link
That was near Vince Carter/former Knick great Frederick Weis-esque
Honestly, I think I'd rather end up with Morant than Zion  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2019 9:31 am : link
And that's not just my ingrained Duke hatred talking. The Knicks need a point guard so desperately, and no one knows if Zion will ever learn to shoot.
The problem with Morant  
dep026 : 1/11/2019 9:34 am : link
is that he is so small and he cant shoot. I know people want to see Westbrook in him but the risk of having a Elfrid Payton is there too.
Zion  
DanMetroMan : 1/11/2019 9:37 am : link
is going to be special. That being said, I can see an argument for Morant as high as #2. Barrett concerns me, not huge on Reddish. Guy with MAJOR helium other than Morant is Culver. I need to check this kid out. Guy I really respect mentioned him before some of the other more talked about guys as "could be really, really good".
Williamson's floor  
dep026 : 1/11/2019 9:41 am : link
and I mean basement floor is Kenyon Martin. He should be a 16-17 points and 8-9 rebounds a game on pure athleticism.
he's not going to be special unless he learns to knock down a shot  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2019 9:49 am : link
He's not going to get a billion breakaway dunks in the NBA.
RE: he's not going to be special unless he learns to knock down a shot  
dep026 : 1/11/2019 9:50 am : link
In comment 14258076 Greg from LI said:
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He's not going to get a billion breakaway dunks in the NBA.


Ben Simmons is pretty damn good. You and I shoot better than him.
And he's much more skilled than Zion  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2019 9:54 am : link
Which isn't to say Zion isn't skilled, because he is, but not on a level with Simmons or Giannis, to name a superstar who can't shoot.

Just think the floor is lower for him than the rest of you seem to.
RE: And he's much more skilled than Zion  
dep026 : 1/11/2019 9:56 am : link
In comment 14258085 Greg from LI said:
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Which isn't to say Zion isn't skilled, because he is, but not on a level with Simmons or Giannis, to name a superstar who can't shoot.

Just think the floor is lower for him than the rest of you seem to.


Gotcha. I do think he will be a double double machine though. As a Bulls fan.... I would love to see a zion, Lauri, Wendell front line.
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nygiants16 : 1/11/2019 9:58 am : link
In comment 14258079 dep026 said:
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He's not going to get a billion breakaway dunks in the NBA.



Ben Simmons is pretty damn good. You and I shoot better than him.


and he struggled terribky last year in the playoffs, until he learns how to shoot sixers will do nothing
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DanMetroMan : 1/11/2019 10:12 am : link
on Culver. Some teams think he can run an offense and there are teams that prefer him to Morant as a prospect. I think this is a kid we should all be following. He sounds/looks very intriguing.
Sure, I can agree with that  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2019 10:16 am : link
Don't see any way he's a bust. Just wonder if he's merely good or the kind of HOF talent Dan thinks.
I watched Texas Tech/Duke a few weeks ago  
bceagle05 : 1/11/2019 10:17 am : link
and was really impressed with Culver - looked like the best player on the floor for most of the game. Coach K was showering him with praise, too. A lot to like about him.
RE: RE: RE: he's not going to be special unless he learns to knock down a shot  
dep026 : 1/11/2019 10:19 am : link
In comment 14258090 nygiants16 said:
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and he struggled terribky last year in the playoffs, until he learns how to shoot sixers will do nothing


I'm not all in on Ben... but he averaded 16-9-8 on 48% from the floor in the playoffs last year. Thats not struggling terribly. He had a really bad game 2 against Boston.
RE: I watched Texas Tech/Duke a few weeks ago  
DanMetroMan : 1/11/2019 10:22 am : link
In comment 14258115 bceagle05 said:
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and was really impressed with Culver - looked like the best player on the floor for most of the game. Coach K was showering him with praise, too. A lot to like about him.


Guy I spoke to was raving about him and he wasn't even on my radar.
There's  
Jon in NYC : 1/11/2019 10:25 am : link
a big difference between having a PG that can't shoot and a 3/4 that can't. Also Zion has already exhibited more range than Simmons ever has.


One thing about Culver and Morant  
dep026 : 1/11/2019 10:26 am : link
and all the way to Simmons...

They are either average or bad free throw shooters. I guess I find it shocking how osmeone has the ball in their hands all the time.... cant shoot.
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Jon in NYC : 1/11/2019 10:27 am : link
In comment 14258108 DanMetroMan said:
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on Culver. Some teams think he can run an offense and there are teams that prefer him to Morant as a prospect. I think this is a kid we should all be following. He sounds/looks very intriguing.


They view him as a point? Kind of tough to see averaging 4 assists and 2.4 turnovers, but I admittedly do not watch much Texas Tech ball.
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DanMetroMan : 1/11/2019 10:31 am : link
In comment 14258133 Jon in NYC said:
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on Culver. Some teams think he can run an offense and there are teams that prefer him to Morant as a prospect. I think this is a kid we should all be following. He sounds/looks very intriguing.



They view him as a point? Kind of tough to see averaging 4 assists and 2.4 turnovers, but I admittedly do not watch much Texas Tech ball.


Let me preface this by saying I've never even seen him play other than youtube. But the guy I spoke to said that some teams have said they could see him "running an offense" and being a "playmaker at the 1". It sounds more like it's not out of the realm of possibility given his skillset more than "he's a 1" but I found it interesting. He also said he's the perfect example of gains a player has from year 1 to year 2 in college. He put a "early lottery" grade on him this year.
Knicks  
Jon in NYC : 1/11/2019 10:35 am : link
are currently tied with the Bulls for 3rd worst record, and 2 wins behind the Hawks.

Knicks may not get another two wins before March.
RE: One thing about Culver and Morant  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2019 10:36 am : link
In comment 14258132 dep026 said:
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They are either average or bad free throw shooters. I guess I find it shocking how osmeone has the ball in their hands all the time.... cant shoot.


Morant is a career 79.1% FT shooter.
Regarding Zion  
Heisenberg : 1/11/2019 10:39 am : link
5 of 11 from 3 last 4 games. We may not have established that he *can't* shoot. There's certainly less data about his shooting woes than Simmons.

For me, the thing that makes me really want Zion is that he seems like he will develop into a real two way player who should be very switchable on defense. He's just so athletic and competitive that I think he'll be tough to handle on both ends of the floor.

Love Morant, too. I don't think he's too small at all. And Elfrid Payton is soft as shit. Morant's competitiveness is much, much higher.

Haven't seen Culver, but I'll keep an eye out for Texas Tech games now.
I'm  
DanMetroMan : 1/11/2019 10:40 am : link
sounding like a fanboy for a guy I've never even see play live but Culver has improved from 65% to 72% this season and is shooting 39% from 3 so it's not like he "can't" shoot.
Currently  
DanMetroMan : 1/11/2019 10:41 am : link
I think Morant is #2 on my "board". I need to see more of these other guys before really fleshing out anything beyond "Damn I'd love Zion".
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dep026 : 1/11/2019 10:44 am : link
In comment 14258149 Greg from LI said:
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They are either average or bad free throw shooters. I guess I find it shocking how osmeone has the ball in their hands all the time.... cant shoot.



Morant is a career 79.1% FT shooter.


I sw 77% for this year and some college rims are pretty forgiving. Still less than stellar. Like to see guards around 82-83. But again, might be a slump or something...
I  
Jon in NYC : 1/11/2019 10:55 am : link
still have Ja and Barrett neck and neck, but given the Knicks' needs Ja certainly might make more sense.

He also seems to have that Russ IDGAF attitude which I like.
Little and Reddish are the only ones who really scare me.  
bceagle05 : 1/11/2019 11:00 am : link
Zion, Barrett or Morant would be great, Culver would be fine. Sucks that Garland got hurt - I think he would've turned some heads, too. Langford's playing better lately. Just keep losing. I don't want to pass myself off as a college basketball expert though - I just check out these prospects when their teams pop up on ESPN or Fox Sports, and keep up with the experts' evaluations.
It's  
DanMetroMan : 1/11/2019 11:41 am : link
Culver time baby!
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Do the Duke kids get a bump once theyre no  
Really : 1/11/2019 11:51 am : link
longer on the same team and can really showcase their stuff ala Knox/Booker?
Bold prediction....  
dep026 : 1/11/2019 12:12 pm : link
Brezdekis becomes a top 10 pick this year.
RE: Bold prediction....  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2019 12:24 pm : link
In comment 14258283 dep026 said:
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Brezdekis becomes a top 10 pick this year.


Culver's a sophomore, too.  
bceagle05 : 1/11/2019 12:26 pm : link
After drafting some projects in recent years, it'd be nice to add in a more "NBA ready" player.
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DanMetroMan : 1/11/2019 2:22 pm : link
Enes Kanter did not participate in Knicks practice on Thursday. Apparently this is because on Wednesday night he ate seven cheeseburgers, with a generous helping of fries, to get the most out of his weekly cheat day and made himself sick enough to call out of work the next day.

Kanter posted a video of him sitting in front of seven burgers - including three triple-patty burgers topped with egg - and a tray full of fries.

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Anakim : 1/11/2019 2:26 pm : link
In comment 14258569 DanMetroMan said:
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Enes Kanter did not participate in Knicks practice on Thursday. Apparently this is because on Wednesday night he ate seven cheeseburgers, with a generous helping of fries, to get the most out of his weekly cheat day and made himself sick enough to call out of work the next day.

Kanter posted a video of him sitting in front of seven burgers - including three triple-patty burgers topped with egg - and a tray full of fries.


What a fucking asshole. How the hell do you have a cheat meal IN SEASON? You're a fucking professional who is getting paid millions of dollars. You have all summer to eat whatever shit you want. All you need to do is be in fucking shape.
Impossible to take Kanter seriously.  
bceagle05 : 1/11/2019 2:39 pm : link
Please dump this clown already.
I think we will see him straight up  
Carl in CT : 1/11/2019 2:58 pm : link
For a 37 yr old player just to get rid of him. Nothing else will come back not even a second. I think we are all dreaming trying to get rid of a contract guaranteed for next year even with something attached. Maybe on draft night if we drop a few slots.
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