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Browns to hire Freddie Kitchens as HC

Anakim : 1/9/2019 12:00 pm
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Freddie Kitchens will be named new Browns head coach later today, per sources.
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There's two sides to everything..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/9/2019 3:29 pm : link
and there's taking the contrarian view to do what nobody else is doing.

Part of the reason the NFL tends to go with the "safe" choices is because it is very costly to experience failure. Kitchens could become a good HC. He could be a terrible HC. He could be a mediocre HC. For the Browns organization, if he isn't a good HC, they won't make strides forward.

It is kind of like the Josh Allen analysis last year. For him to stay a successful starter, he'll have to buck history that says the majority of QB's that have poor completion % in college will not make it in the NFL. And by majority, I think it was like 2 guys out of 37 had mediocre careers.

Kitchens is basically a lottery ticket. If you are the Browns and are looking to have sustained success under Mayfield, is that really the wisest choice?
RE: RE: I'm not..  
Pepe LePugh : 1/9/2019 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14255472 Racer said:
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In comment 14255394 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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sure the Browns are getting any better at this.


"Browns"
"Browns pre-Dorsey"
"Browns w/Dorsey"

Important distinction, no? I think comes down to the GM choosing somebody he thinks he can work with regarding roster construction, that will keep the locker room moving forward, and somebody who has a demonstrated rapport with Mayfield. Also, somebody that the dirtbag owner feels he can invite to social gatherings that won't ding his reputation. Williams might have fit in like Jake and Elwood in the French restaurant.


Listening to Cleveland ESPN. It leaked out that search committee had Dorsey and 5 others with equal voice. Kitchens is an analytics guy, and appeals to the faction that is trying to run the Browns on statistics rather than football savvy, primarily Di Podesta.
Browns being Browns.
Historically, promoting from within doesn’t work  
Sean : 1/9/2019 6:42 pm : link
That article is prettying telling. With Belichick, coordinators come & go and the program doesn’t suffer. Here, the Browns couldn’t fathom losing Freddie Kitchens.
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Why didn't they just keep Gregg Williams?  
FStubbs : 1/9/2019 7:28 pm : link
I thought he had earned the job.
So much for continuity...  
MetsAreBack : 1/9/2019 7:38 pm : link
Most of the Browns staff was let go this evening, including Ken Zampese who was QBs coach.

Browns seem like an incredibly political organization. Like, Redskins light.

As much young talent as they have, perhaps McCarthy wasn't being completely self-serving when he said he would only coach the Jets. As much talent as they have, it doesnt stick together all that long before salary cap and free agency hits... hope for their sake Mayfield overcomes a lot of the bullshit.

RE: at least he's been a coach in the league  
FStubbs : 1/9/2019 8:16 pm : link
In comment 14255754 bluepepper said:
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for a long time. Since 2006. Probably more than a few position coaches could make the leap as the aforementioned Anthony Lynn has done. The head scratchers to me are the guys like Vrabel and LaFleur who have very little NFL coaching experience and a guy like Klingsbury who has none and a weak track record as a HC in college.


Andy Reid is the best example of a position coach who jumped to head coach and he's done quite well obviously.
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Peppers : 1/9/2019 8:34 pm : link
The familiarity and rapport with Baker was a big reason why.

Technically...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/9/2019 8:55 pm : link
Reid wasn't just a position coach. He was an offensive assistant for two years and an assistant HC for two years.

Successful HC's who were position coaches are very rare.
Sounds like a bunch of Malarkey ..  
Manny in CA : 1/9/2019 9:02 pm : link

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/10/12/162791655/whats-all-this-malarkey-about-malarkey
Umm..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/9/2019 9:04 pm : link
what the fuck is that link for?

It literally pertains to nothing.
now they're  
madgiantscow009 : 1/9/2019 9:10 pm : link
cooking.
RE: Umm..  
MetsAreBack : 1/10/2019 9:07 am : link
In comment 14256150 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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what the fuck is that link for?

It literally pertains to nothing.


Manny being Manny... BBI's resident pot head.
Copy Cat league  
joeinpa : 1/10/2019 9:46 am : link
All trying to be Rams
RE: Why didn't they just keep Gregg Williams?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/10/2019 9:47 am : link
In comment 14256032 FStubbs said:
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I thought he had earned the job.


Williams has a lousy reputation and an attitude.
You could..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/10/2019 9:49 am : link
make a case that Williams (and by extension Payton) should have been barred from coaching in the NFL.

Williams has advocated intentionally injuring players several times in his career.
Browns  
PaulN : 1/10/2019 5:23 pm : link
Being fucking idiots once again.
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