He got that Fins team this year with significantly less talent the Giants to win 7 games - that in itself is impressive
Agreed. That team was competitive. And his record with Tannehill starting was something like 12-6. Not bad. Actually surprised they ran him out. He needed a better qb.
Are you serious? Guys that that took a legitimate position that he would have been a good pick for the Giants and still believe after his first year that he s going to be pretty dam good, are groupies!
That s pathetic man.
You one of those guys that can’t tolerate opposite points of view? Come on, anyone with an ounce of objectivity has to admit Darnold has a chance to be pretty good.
says Rhule wanted "total control" over hiring assistants. Not many HC hires get that certainly not a mildly successful college coach with the barest minimum NFL experience. Rhule either didn't really want the job or overplayed his hand.
How do not many coaches have that authority? It isn't like he is asking for total control over all football decisions. He is hiring his staff. Not a big deal at all.
I think they work together in assembling a staff but GM/Ownership retains a veto power at least and often make "suggestions". Kubiak got hired as OC in Denver at same time as Fangio - who's idea do you think that was? You think Jerry Jones let's Garret hire whomever he wants? Or Dan Snyder stays out of assistant hirings in DC? Even the Giants - Shurmur's OC and ST coaches were undoubtedly more Gettleman hires than Shurmur. I'm even pretty sure I read that one of Tom's preferred coaching hires got spiked by the front office but can't remember who. Bottom line is the ownership is paying the assistants and they're not going to just give out blank checks to the HC to hire whomever the hell he wants.
Obviously win like Belichick or Pete Carroll and ownership is going to do what they have to to keep you happy but until then you're not necessarily going to get everyone you want and you may have an assistant or two foisted upon you.
says Rhule wanted "total control" over hiring assistants. Not many HC hires get that certainly not a mildly successful college coach with the barest minimum NFL experience. Rhule either didn't really want the job or overplayed his hand.
How do not many coaches have that authority? It isn't like he is asking for total control over all football decisions. He is hiring his staff. Not a big deal at all.
I think they work together in assembling a staff but GM/Ownership retains a veto power at least and often make "suggestions". Kubiak got hired as OC in Denver at same time as Fangio - who's idea do you think that was? You think Jerry Jones let's Garret hire whomever he wants? Or Dan Snyder stays out of assistant hirings in DC? Even the Giants - Shurmur's OC and ST coaches were undoubtedly more Gettleman hires than Shurmur. I'm even pretty sure I read that one of Tom's preferred coaching hires got spiked by the front office but can't remember who. Bottom line is the ownership is paying the assistants and they're not going to just give out blank checks to the HC to hire whomever the hell he wants.
Obviously win like Belichick or Pete Carroll and ownership is going to do what they have to to keep you happy but until then you're not necessarily going to get everyone you want and you may have an assistant or two foisted upon you.
My point is if you want a coach that isn't going to stop a team from hiring him. And, vice versa, good for Rhule not puttinh himself in that position. It isn't a big ask.
says Rhule wanted "total control" over hiring assistants. Not many HC hires get that certainly not a mildly successful college coach with the barest minimum NFL experience. Rhule either didn't really want the job or overplayed his hand.
How do not many coaches have that authority? It isn't like he is asking for total control over all football decisions. He is hiring his staff. Not a big deal at all.
I think they work together in assembling a staff but GM/Ownership retains a veto power at least and often make "suggestions". Kubiak got hired as OC in Denver at same time as Fangio - who's idea do you think that was? You think Jerry Jones let's Garret hire whomever he wants? Or Dan Snyder stays out of assistant hirings in DC? Even the Giants - Shurmur's OC and ST coaches were undoubtedly more Gettleman hires than Shurmur. I'm even pretty sure I read that one of Tom's preferred coaching hires got spiked by the front office but can't remember who. Bottom line is the ownership is paying the assistants and they're not going to just give out blank checks to the HC to hire whomever the hell he wants.
Obviously win like Belichick or Pete Carroll and ownership is going to do what they have to to keep you happy but until then you're not necessarily going to get everyone you want and you may have an assistant or two foisted upon you.
No, Coughlin wanted to hire Gregg Williams a few times actually but the Giants didn’t pony up the cash to get him.
I read Accorsi’s book and he wrote he wasn’t enamored with some of hires but wasn’t going to interfere with his hires because he was the one coaching the players
says Rhule wanted "total control" over hiring assistants. Not many HC hires get that certainly not a mildly successful college coach with the barest minimum NFL experience. Rhule either didn't really want the job or overplayed his hand.
NFL coaches with less resume than Rhule have been hired and gotten to pick their own assistants. I don't think it's that rare.
says Rhule wanted "total control" over hiring assistants. Not many HC hires get that certainly not a mildly successful college coach with the barest minimum NFL experience. Rhule either didn't really want the job or overplayed his hand.
How do not many coaches have that authority? It isn't like he is asking for total control over all football decisions. He is hiring his staff. Not a big deal at all.
I think they work together in assembling a staff but GM/Ownership retains a veto power at least and often make "suggestions". Kubiak got hired as OC in Denver at same time as Fangio - who's idea do you think that was? You think Jerry Jones let's Garret hire whomever he wants? Or Dan Snyder stays out of assistant hirings in DC? Even the Giants - Shurmur's OC and ST coaches were undoubtedly more Gettleman hires than Shurmur. I'm even pretty sure I read that one of Tom's preferred coaching hires got spiked by the front office but can't remember who. Bottom line is the ownership is paying the assistants and they're not going to just give out blank checks to the HC to hire whomever the hell he wants.
Obviously win like Belichick or Pete Carroll and ownership is going to do what they have to to keep you happy but until then you're not necessarily going to get everyone you want and you may have an assistant or two foisted upon you.
To the Fangio point, Fangio really wanted to be a HC. He was willing to allow elway to to pick his staff.
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Per a league source, Fangio’s burning desire to finally become a head coach has made him willing to let Elway hand pick the coaching staff. Elway wants Gary Kubiak to run the offense. That’s more likely if it’s Fangio.
It also makes it less likely that the offensive coordinator will be pilfered by another team, since Kubiak has retired from serving as a head coach, for health reasons.
NFL coaches with less resume than Rhule have been hired and gotten to pick their own assistants. I don't think it's that rare.
it is extremely rare for a young HC to have total control over the assistants. It's rare that first time HC's get total control over assistants.
That doesn't mean they don't have a say, but in terms of being able to handpick the assistants, that's almost always reserved for guys with a proven track record.
I've logged onto BBI three times today (as it's normally just a quick break from my work) and every time I have there's been a different Jets HC named.
I said so above. They're still in a better spot than we are.
Britt, as someone who, like me, is a huge Eli fan why aren't you more angry? Their incompetence has ruined the second half of his career. If he's back next year there's a good chance he retires with a sub .500 record as a starter. If you'd told me in 2012 that would be the case I wouldn't have believed it.
I said so above. They're still in a better spot than we are.
Britt, as someone who, like me, is a huge Eli fan why aren't you more angry? Their incompetence has ruined the second half of his career. If he's back next year there's a good chance he retires with a sub .500 record as a starter. If you'd told me in 2012 that would be the case I wouldn't have believed it.
Because I can't undo it. It's done. It's over. And the main culprit, IMO, has been fired.
I've been vocal as hell since 2013 about the incompetence, and that starts with the owner, IMO (again), hitching his horse to the wrong wagon.
Well, everybody left from that debacle is gone. There's nothing left to do.
If Gase can loosen up a little bit he'll be a good coach. He's an old disciplinarian coach in a young coaches body, and he's run into some friction as a result in Miami
He's shown plenty of ingenuity and innovation. Somehow got something out of Tebow. Peyton Manning loved him and put in a good word for him. Great work with the erratic Cutler. But a good QB's coach/OC does not make a great head coach
Gase is a better coach than Shurmur (low bar there)
Gase is 23-26 as a head coach -- a losing record. What happened to "losers lose"?
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and they're set up at QB while we're not.
The Giants could take Haskins at #6 and be pretty much as "set up" at QB as the Jets are. Let's not act like Darnold has proven much yet. And he's already been injured. (That would alarm me as a Jets fan.)
Being negative about the Giants makes a ton of sense. It feels like they've sucked ass for a decade. But it doesn't make sense to lift up equally inept franchises with tons of holes of their own as superior alternatives.
His record the last three years is not all bad. As others have noted, the Fins do not have a lot of talent -- and to win 6 games with Jake Cutler and limited talent is an achievement. Consider, too, that Gase can never be as bad as Todd Bowles.
Gase is a better coach than Shurmur (low bar there)
Gase is 23-26 as a head coach -- a losing record. What happened to "losers lose"?
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and they're set up at QB while we're not.
The Giants could take Haskins at #6 and be pretty much as "set up" at QB as the Jets are. Let's not act like Darnold has proven much yet. And he's already been injured. (That would alarm me as a Jets fan.)
Being negative about the Giants makes a ton of sense. It feels like they've sucked ass for a decade. But it doesn't make sense to lift up equally inept franchises with tons of holes of their own as superior alternatives.
I'm not sure how much clearer I can be. I don't like the Gase hire. I don't think he's a great coach. But he doesn't have to be in order to be better than Shurmur, who has to this point only been terrible.
I'm serious, this could be the thing that puts him over the edge. He went on a 10 minute rant the other day about how important it was to hire the right coach and the thing that set him off into this rant was someone suggesting that right coach was Adam Gase.
+1 Tomorrow’s show should be interesting, plus I don’t know why Macagnan gets a pass, there’s not much talent on that team.
So in that regard, the Jets are closer to a brighter future than Jints Central.
It’s easy to mock this Gase hire, but we have Shurmur, not Shula (Don).
What proof do you have that the Jets found their QB? You really don't have any.
Yes. We've found our QB with Sam Darnold. There is nobody on the Jets or in the NFL that doubts that. It's now about building the rest of the team around him. Protecting him. Giving him the weapons that he deserves
Probably will fail since most do, it is very hard to find a good HC.
I know apples to bowling balls and all, but he has coaches three years and has one winning season and brought his team to more than five wins.
Our guy Shurmur is still waiting to do both. Shurmur tied his career high in head coaching wins this season and sees pleased with it pointing out how the team was 3 - 13 last year. We will see how it all works out, but it is more than fair to say the Jets are lined up better going forward than the Giants. Their new coach has. A better track record as a head man and like it or not Darnold looks good enough and will likely be their guy for a long time.
So as Giants fans I agree we have no reasonable reasons to laugh at the Jets.
where he rants at Boomer and Evan for 2+ minutes about how if the Jets don't hire McCarthy it's over. Specifically names Gase as someone he doesn't want.
This 10 a.m. spot is going to be fantastic - I may cancel meetings to listen.
Jets have a 21 year old QB with 14 starts under his belt as a rookie. In some regards, his rookie season was better than Peyton Manning’s.
And he finished his last quarter of the year with 6 TDs/1INTs, 64% completion %, and a 99 QB rating.
It’s early - indeed. But the Jets are a lot closer to solving their long term QB issue than we are.
If you mean long term of mediocrity, then yes, they will have that at QB for the next 5-10 year.s
The Jets have more work to do in terms of adding more parts. They are obviously far from a finished product.
But if you can’t see the skill set of Darnold, and it appears you think he’s not going to be anything special, than we don’t have much to discuss. I think Darnold is a QB to bank on...
Does that mean the Jets arrow is pointing up? Heck, Shurmur is made out to be the worst coach in the league, so wouldn't being marginally better just mean that both teams suck??
When the Rhule thread was going on, you literally had posters saying that the Jets have all their shit together and it will be dark days for Big Blue. They fuck that up completely and now it is still being said.
If the Giants had a shitshow like this, the board would go completely apeshit. Would hold it against Gase and the ownership from the get-go.
Sort of the way some asswipes still treat Gettleman like he's Mara's lackey because of a "fake GM search".
I do truly wonder why some of you miserable fucks continue to watch the team.
Does that mean the Jets arrow is pointing up? Heck, Shurmur is made out to be the worst coach in the league, so wouldn't being marginally better just mean that both teams suck??
When the Rhule thread was going on, you literally had posters saying that the Jets have all their shit together and it will be dark days for Big Blue. They fuck that up completely and now it is still being said.
If the Giants had a shitshow like this, the board would go completely apeshit. Would hold it against Gase and the ownership from the get-go.
Sort of the way some asswipes still treat Gettleman like he's Mara's lackey because of a "fake GM search".
I do truly wonder why some of you miserable fucks continue to watch the team.
In 2 days, it will be 50 years since the Jets SB. Arrow is trembling
So in that regard, the Jets are closer to a brighter future than Jints Central.
It’s easy to mock this Gase hire, but we have Shurmur, not Shula (Don).
Barkley isn't your typical running back though. He is a weapon in the passing game as well. I could make the point that Barkley makes it easier to find a qb because he makes their job a lot easier. With Barkley perhaps the other positions can be "good enough". I think he is that good
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are one of the last teams that should laugh at the Jets. The Giants are a mess.
Agreed there. I'd rather be in their shoes than ours.
A week or so ago, you said that had the Giants traded up and drafted Lamar Jackson, they could have won 9 or 10 games this year.
That sounds like they're one key position away from being a playoff contender. Now the Jets are in better shape than the Giants?
Baltimore had an excellent defense and won 10 games. What was going to happen when the Giants D took the field?
Agreed. That team was competitive. And his record with Tannehill starting was something like 12-6. Not bad. Actually surprised they ran him out. He needed a better qb.
That s pathetic man.
You one of those guys that can’t tolerate opposite points of view? Come on, anyone with an ounce of objectivity has to admit Darnold has a chance to be pretty good.
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says Rhule wanted "total control" over hiring assistants. Not many HC hires get that certainly not a mildly successful college coach with the barest minimum NFL experience. Rhule either didn't really want the job or overplayed his hand.
How do not many coaches have that authority? It isn't like he is asking for total control over all football decisions. He is hiring his staff. Not a big deal at all.
I think they work together in assembling a staff but GM/Ownership retains a veto power at least and often make "suggestions". Kubiak got hired as OC in Denver at same time as Fangio - who's idea do you think that was? You think Jerry Jones let's Garret hire whomever he wants? Or Dan Snyder stays out of assistant hirings in DC? Even the Giants - Shurmur's OC and ST coaches were undoubtedly more Gettleman hires than Shurmur. I'm even pretty sure I read that one of Tom's preferred coaching hires got spiked by the front office but can't remember who. Bottom line is the ownership is paying the assistants and they're not going to just give out blank checks to the HC to hire whomever the hell he wants.
Obviously win like Belichick or Pete Carroll and ownership is going to do what they have to to keep you happy but until then you're not necessarily going to get everyone you want and you may have an assistant or two foisted upon you.
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says Rhule wanted "total control" over hiring assistants. Not many HC hires get that certainly not a mildly successful college coach with the barest minimum NFL experience. Rhule either didn't really want the job or overplayed his hand.
How do not many coaches have that authority? It isn't like he is asking for total control over all football decisions. He is hiring his staff. Not a big deal at all.
I think they work together in assembling a staff but GM/Ownership retains a veto power at least and often make "suggestions". Kubiak got hired as OC in Denver at same time as Fangio - who's idea do you think that was? You think Jerry Jones let's Garret hire whomever he wants? Or Dan Snyder stays out of assistant hirings in DC? Even the Giants - Shurmur's OC and ST coaches were undoubtedly more Gettleman hires than Shurmur. I'm even pretty sure I read that one of Tom's preferred coaching hires got spiked by the front office but can't remember who. Bottom line is the ownership is paying the assistants and they're not going to just give out blank checks to the HC to hire whomever the hell he wants.
Obviously win like Belichick or Pete Carroll and ownership is going to do what they have to to keep you happy but until then you're not necessarily going to get everyone you want and you may have an assistant or two foisted upon you.
My point is if you want a coach that isn't going to stop a team from hiring him. And, vice versa, good for Rhule not puttinh himself in that position. It isn't a big ask.
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says Rhule wanted "total control" over hiring assistants. Not many HC hires get that certainly not a mildly successful college coach with the barest minimum NFL experience. Rhule either didn't really want the job or overplayed his hand.
How do not many coaches have that authority? It isn't like he is asking for total control over all football decisions. He is hiring his staff. Not a big deal at all.
I think they work together in assembling a staff but GM/Ownership retains a veto power at least and often make "suggestions". Kubiak got hired as OC in Denver at same time as Fangio - who's idea do you think that was? You think Jerry Jones let's Garret hire whomever he wants? Or Dan Snyder stays out of assistant hirings in DC? Even the Giants - Shurmur's OC and ST coaches were undoubtedly more Gettleman hires than Shurmur. I'm even pretty sure I read that one of Tom's preferred coaching hires got spiked by the front office but can't remember who. Bottom line is the ownership is paying the assistants and they're not going to just give out blank checks to the HC to hire whomever the hell he wants.
Obviously win like Belichick or Pete Carroll and ownership is going to do what they have to to keep you happy but until then you're not necessarily going to get everyone you want and you may have an assistant or two foisted upon you.
No, Coughlin wanted to hire Gregg Williams a few times actually but the Giants didn’t pony up the cash to get him.
I read Accorsi’s book and he wrote he wasn’t enamored with some of hires but wasn’t going to interfere with his hires because he was the one coaching the players
Three years of 5-7 wins here they come.
NFL coaches with less resume than Rhule have been hired and gotten to pick their own assistants. I don't think it's that rare.
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says Rhule wanted "total control" over hiring assistants. Not many HC hires get that certainly not a mildly successful college coach with the barest minimum NFL experience. Rhule either didn't really want the job or overplayed his hand.
How do not many coaches have that authority? It isn't like he is asking for total control over all football decisions. He is hiring his staff. Not a big deal at all.
I think they work together in assembling a staff but GM/Ownership retains a veto power at least and often make "suggestions". Kubiak got hired as OC in Denver at same time as Fangio - who's idea do you think that was? You think Jerry Jones let's Garret hire whomever he wants? Or Dan Snyder stays out of assistant hirings in DC? Even the Giants - Shurmur's OC and ST coaches were undoubtedly more Gettleman hires than Shurmur. I'm even pretty sure I read that one of Tom's preferred coaching hires got spiked by the front office but can't remember who. Bottom line is the ownership is paying the assistants and they're not going to just give out blank checks to the HC to hire whomever the hell he wants.
Obviously win like Belichick or Pete Carroll and ownership is going to do what they have to to keep you happy but until then you're not necessarily going to get everyone you want and you may have an assistant or two foisted upon you.
To the Fangio point, Fangio really wanted to be a HC. He was willing to allow elway to to pick his staff.
It also makes it less likely that the offensive coordinator will be pilfered by another team, since Kubiak has retired from serving as a head coach, for health reasons.
it is extremely rare for a young HC to have total control over the assistants. It's rare that first time HC's get total control over assistants.
That doesn't mean they don't have a say, but in terms of being able to handpick the assistants, that's almost always reserved for guys with a proven track record.
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they were not going to give Rhule control over his staff & he backed out. If the Giants flounder in 19, I could see Rhule coaching the Giants.
Are you fucking retarded? I keep seeing you say retarded things.
Rough day, Joey?
Including acting like the Jets organization has the arrow pointing up.
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are one of the last teams that should laugh at the Jets. The Giants are a mess.
Agreed there. I'd rather be in their shoes than ours.
Why?
Because Gase is a better coach than Shurmur (low bar there) and they're set up at QB while we're not. They also have more cap space than we do.
This really is all about Darnold and nothing else, isn't it?
Britt, as someone who, like me, is a huge Eli fan why aren't you more angry? Their incompetence has ruined the second half of his career. If he's back next year there's a good chance he retires with a sub .500 record as a starter. If you'd told me in 2012 that would be the case I wouldn't have believed it.
Britt, as someone who, like me, is a huge Eli fan why aren't you more angry? Their incompetence has ruined the second half of his career. If he's back next year there's a good chance he retires with a sub .500 record as a starter. If you'd told me in 2012 that would be the case I wouldn't have believed it.
Because I can't undo it. It's done. It's over. And the main culprit, IMO, has been fired.
I've been vocal as hell since 2013 about the incompetence, and that starts with the owner, IMO (again), hitching his horse to the wrong wagon.
Well, everybody left from that debacle is gone. There's nothing left to do.
So in that regard, the Jets are closer to a brighter future than Jints Central.
It’s easy to mock this Gase hire, but we have Shurmur, not Shula (Don).
1999 if you count Bill
Tomorrow morning's screen saver on Beningos computer 😂🤣
He's shown plenty of ingenuity and innovation. Somehow got something out of Tebow. Peyton Manning loved him and put in a good word for him. Great work with the erratic Cutler. But a good QB's coach/OC does not make a great head coach
Absolute boom or bust coach
1999 if you count Bill
Heard this 1000 times today, it's wrong
So in that regard, the Jets are closer to a brighter future than Jints Central.
It’s easy to mock this Gase hire, but we have Shurmur, not Shula (Don).
What proof do you have that the Jets found their QB? You really don't have any.
Gase is 23-26 as a head coach -- a losing record. What happened to "losers lose"?
The Giants could take Haskins at #6 and be pretty much as "set up" at QB as the Jets are. Let's not act like Darnold has proven much yet. And he's already been injured. (That would alarm me as a Jets fan.)
Being negative about the Giants makes a ton of sense. It feels like they've sucked ass for a decade. But it doesn't make sense to lift up equally inept franchises with tons of holes of their own as superior alternatives.
2018 7-9 w/Tannehill
2017 6-10 w/Cutler
2016 10-6 w/Tannehill
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than to find a QB.
So in that regard, the Jets are closer to a brighter future than Jints Central.
It’s easy to mock this Gase hire, but we have Shurmur, not Shula (Don).
What proof do you have that the Jets found their QB? You really don't have any.
Jets have a 21 year old QB with 14 starts under his belt as a rookie. In some regards, his rookie season was better than Peyton Manning’s.
And he finished his last quarter of the year with 6 TDs/1INTs, 64% completion %, and a 99 QB rating.
It’s early - indeed. But the Jets are a lot closer to solving their long term QB issue than we are.
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Gase is a better coach than Shurmur (low bar there)
Gase is 23-26 as a head coach -- a losing record. What happened to "losers lose"?
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and they're set up at QB while we're not.
The Giants could take Haskins at #6 and be pretty much as "set up" at QB as the Jets are. Let's not act like Darnold has proven much yet. And he's already been injured. (That would alarm me as a Jets fan.)
Being negative about the Giants makes a ton of sense. It feels like they've sucked ass for a decade. But it doesn't make sense to lift up equally inept franchises with tons of holes of their own as superior alternatives.
I'm not sure how much clearer I can be. I don't like the Gase hire. I don't think he's a great coach. But he doesn't have to be in order to be better than Shurmur, who has to this point only been terrible.
+1 Tomorrow’s show should be interesting, plus I don’t know why Macagnan gets a pass, there’s not much talent on that team.
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than to find a QB.
So in that regard, the Jets are closer to a brighter future than Jints Central.
It’s easy to mock this Gase hire, but we have Shurmur, not Shula (Don).
What proof do you have that the Jets found their QB? You really don't have any.
Yes. We've found our QB with Sam Darnold. There is nobody on the Jets or in the NFL that doubts that. It's now about building the rest of the team around him. Protecting him. Giving him the weapons that he deserves
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than to find a QB.
So in that regard, the Jets are closer to a brighter future than Jints Central.
It’s easy to mock this Gase hire, but we have Shurmur, not Shula (Don).
What proof do you have that the Jets found their QB? You really don't have any.
Jets have a 21 year old QB with 14 starts under his belt as a rookie. In some regards, his rookie season was better than Peyton Manning’s.
And he finished his last quarter of the year with 6 TDs/1INTs, 64% completion %, and a 99 QB rating.
It’s early - indeed. But the Jets are a lot closer to solving their long term QB issue than we are.
If you mean long term of mediocrity, then yes, they will have that at QB for the next 5-10 year.s
Probably will fail since most do, it is very hard to find a good HC.
I know apples to bowling balls and all, but he has coaches three years and has one winning season and brought his team to more than five wins.
Our guy Shurmur is still waiting to do both. Shurmur tied his career high in head coaching wins this season and sees pleased with it pointing out how the team was 3 - 13 last year. We will see how it all works out, but it is more than fair to say the Jets are lined up better going forward than the Giants. Their new coach has. A better track record as a head man and like it or not Darnold looks good enough and will likely be their guy for a long time.
So as Giants fans I agree we have no reasonable reasons to laugh at the Jets.
The Gase love in this thread is amusing.
This guy is nothing special.
The Gase love in this thread is amusing.
This guy is nothing special.
Agree, but he does have a better track record at HC than our guy.
This 10 a.m. spot is going to be fantastic - I may cancel meetings to listen.
Jets have a 21 year old QB with 14 starts under his belt as a rookie. In some regards, his rookie season was better than Peyton Manning’s.
And he finished his last quarter of the year with 6 TDs/1INTs, 64% completion %, and a 99 QB rating.
It’s early - indeed. But the Jets are a lot closer to solving their long term QB issue than we are.
If you mean long term of mediocrity, then yes, they will have that at QB for the next 5-10 year.s
The Jets have more work to do in terms of adding more parts. They are obviously far from a finished product.
But if you can’t see the skill set of Darnold, and it appears you think he’s not going to be anything special, than we don’t have much to discuss. I think Darnold is a QB to bank on...
Does that mean the Jets arrow is pointing up? Heck, Shurmur is made out to be the worst coach in the league, so wouldn't being marginally better just mean that both teams suck??
When the Rhule thread was going on, you literally had posters saying that the Jets have all their shit together and it will be dark days for Big Blue. They fuck that up completely and now it is still being said.
If the Giants had a shitshow like this, the board would go completely apeshit. Would hold it against Gase and the ownership from the get-go.
Sort of the way some asswipes still treat Gettleman like he's Mara's lackey because of a "fake GM search".
I do truly wonder why some of you miserable fucks continue to watch the team.
Does that mean the Jets arrow is pointing up? Heck, Shurmur is made out to be the worst coach in the league, so wouldn't being marginally better just mean that both teams suck??
When the Rhule thread was going on, you literally had posters saying that the Jets have all their shit together and it will be dark days for Big Blue. They fuck that up completely and now it is still being said.
If the Giants had a shitshow like this, the board would go completely apeshit. Would hold it against Gase and the ownership from the get-go.
Sort of the way some asswipes still treat Gettleman like he's Mara's lackey because of a "fake GM search".
I do truly wonder why some of you miserable fucks continue to watch the team.
In 2 days, it will be 50 years since the Jets SB. Arrow is trembling
So in that regard, the Jets are closer to a brighter future than Jints Central.
It’s easy to mock this Gase hire, but we have Shurmur, not Shula (Don).
Barkley isn't your typical running back though. He is a weapon in the passing game as well. I could make the point that Barkley makes it easier to find a qb because he makes their job a lot easier. With Barkley perhaps the other positions can be "good enough". I think he is that good
If Chip Kelly or Jay Gruden were to be here would people be excited?
Just another case of people acting like other franchises are doing the right things and we just suck the tit of a decrepit nun.