Gettleman is not one to leak or publicly lean which way he is going in the draft so its very realistic that other teams will be convinced that we will take a qb at 6. Bucs have just publicly stated that they will roll with Winston so the only team that could take a qb before us will prob not.
With Murray and Haskins both in the draft and teams like Jax, Denver and Wash all need qbs (Jax and Wash really bad and in a win now state). It is likely that a team will have to jump us to get the qb of choice. It makes no sense to jump higher than needed. So trading with the Bucs is the way to go. So who will it be?
I have a feeling it will be Jax. A team that has the most pieces to win now. A great def.
Foles presumably to Jacksonville or Denver also takes one of them out of the market.
Between Haskins, Jones, Grier and possibly Rosen available, NYG has a lot of studying to do.
Jacksonville
Broncos
Bengals
Washington
Saints
Are the most likely looking for a QB this draft. Saints don't have a 1st round pick though.
Maybe.....
Oakland
Tampa Bay
Dolphins
Patriots
Eli. He gets the first pick to get ahead of everyone especially Gettleman. The Giants have too many weaknesses to make that trade
Eli. He gets the first pick to get ahead of everyone especially Gettleman. The Giants have too many weaknesses to make that trade
That's not true. He has traded up before. He has never traded down to my understanding.
robbie - thank you - you are likely right - I was just going on my lazy skimming of BBI.
The Giants could easily look at this draft and figure "We don't think any of these QB prospects are worth our pick, never mind trading up for them. Let's see if we can sign a free agent QB, even if it means we'll have to trade a ton of picks to get a young QB in next year's draft." I also wouldn't be surprised to see the Giants trade down to get another pick, and then take a QB later in the first.
I guess the narrative supporting another season or two with Eli can be spun from both positions.
For the record I m fine if Eli is the guy next season, would just prefer that sooner rather than later Giants get their next young guy.
I guess the narrative supporting another season or two with Eli can be spun from both positions.
For the record I m fine if Eli is the guy next season, would just prefer that sooner rather than later Giants get their next young guy.
He's also gotten worse at reading the field, his mechanics have gotten worse, and his footwork is not great. He often flakes at the first sign of pressure. As always, the criticism can be placed on multiple positions. This is a team sport. Too often we've seen the line adequately protect him only for him not to step up and vice versa. It goes both ways.
I like Haskins, but the "too much time" concern is based around not knowing how he'll react when he is pressured more consistently. People are not upset that he's had time to make throws, it just makes it harder to project how he'll do when the pressure does arrive on a more consistent basis. It will happen in the NFL at some point. I think he'll be ok, but it is an uncertainty as of now.
Why in a defensive rich draft do you think it's a good idea or good value to take a defensive player #6 and having 10 other picks?
Why do you assume he won't?
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Why do you assume he won't?
Compared to last year, IMO none of the QBs in the 2019 class would be among the first four QBs picked. And for the Haskins lovers, I doubt he would be among the first four QBs taken next year. Maybe if he stayed in college another year that would change, but who knows.
As one football writer published earlier, Haskins maybe the best of the 2019 QB class, but many teams are luke-warm to him. A lot can happen between now and draft day, but this is a very uninspiring QB class.
Listen to what DG says, because he doesn't hide it well. Last year he raved about Barkley, he said you never force a QB pick, and this year he has already stated that the D needs to be fixed. I've heard him say nothing about Haskins.
Listen to what DG says, because he doesn't hide it well. Last year he raved about Barkley, he said you never force a QB pick, and this year he has already stated that the D needs to be fixed. I've heard him say nothing about Haskins.
He's also said you don't ever want to go shopping hungry, which to me implies that he would prefer to find his needs (defensive impact players) before the draft. I think he prefers to be in a position to take the BPA.
FWIW, I also think this applies to the QB position. I doubt very much that he waits until draft day to find a replacement for Eli, if that's what he decides he wants to do.
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Listen to what DG says, because he doesn't hide it well. Last year he raved about Barkley, he said you never force a QB pick, and this year he has already stated that the D needs to be fixed. I've heard him say nothing about Haskins.
He's also said you don't ever want to go shopping hungry, which to me implies that he would prefer to find his needs (defensive impact players) before the draft. I think he prefers to be in a position to take the BPA.
FWIW, I also think this applies to the QB position. I doubt very much that he waits until draft day to find a replacement for Eli, if that's what he decides he wants to do.
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Listen to what DG says, because he doesn't hide it well. Last year he raved about Barkley, he said you never force a QB pick, and this year he has already stated that the D needs to be fixed. I've heard him say nothing about Haskins.
He's also said you don't ever want to go shopping hungry, which to me implies that he would prefer to find his needs (defensive impact players) before the draft. I think he prefers to be in a position to take the BPA.
FWIW, I also think this applies to the QB position. I doubt very much that he waits until draft day to find a replacement for Eli, if that's what he decides he wants to do.
The Giants won't find a good replacement for Eli before the draft unless the Rosen speculation comes to fruition. They could settle for a stopgap but Foles, Flacco, Bridgewater, etc. are not good long term answers.
And something tells me that the football world will know what his intent will be again well before the 2019 draft kicks off.
You probably just have to call him to find out. Just don’t do it on draft day because he doesn’t seem to want to pick up the phone at that point.
Giants have no one of value to trade without a big cap hit, so trading down could be DG’s approach.
If they don’t pick a QB in round 1, trading down to near the top of round 2 would be wise.
And something tells me that the football world will know what his intent will be again well before the 2019 draft kicks off.
You probably just have to call him to find out. Just don’t do it on draft day because he doesn’t seem to want to pick up the phone at that point.
I see what you did there lol