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NFT: Islanders vs. Rangers @ MSG tonight 7pm

The 12th Man : 1/10/2019 2:16 pm
Islanders 23-14-4
Rangers. 17-18-7

Game is held at Islanders 3rd Home.

Game is the 1st if a back to back which will conclude this year’s meetings between the teams.

SEASON SERIES: SERIES TIED 1-1-0

The home team has won each of the first two meetings between the Islanders and Rangers this season. The Islanders won the first meeting 7-5 at Barclays Center on Nov. 15, while the Rangers won the rematch 5-0 on Nov. 21.

Having a real coach and laying D does matter in this league.
I want to thank the Caps again for Barry Trotz. Islanders had a bad effort on Tuesday night and will look to rebound. Rangers been in the middle of a bad stretch they are 3-5-2 in their last 10 games. The Islanders are 8-2 in the same stretch. Rangers have only 5 teams ahead of them in giving up goals with 145. Islanders in top 5 in goals against almost a whole goal per game lower than the Rangers. Rangers will be playing for pride Islanders to get into a playoff position. Season halfway done and our boys from the Island are fun to watch, well coached and are playing like a playoff team. Let’s get it on! Go Isles!

ISLANDERS NOTES:

- The Islanders six-game winning streak was snapped on Tuesday night against Carolina. The Isles are looking to get back on track on Thursday.

- Thursday's game kicks off a home-and-home set against the Rangers, with the two teams meeting again on Saturday afternoon at Barclays Center. These are the final two meetings of the season between the crosstown rivals.

- The Islanders (50 points) are one point back of the Montreal Canadiens (51 points) for the second wild card berth, and one point back of the Columbus Blue Jackets (51 points) for third in the Metropolitan Division.

- Robin Lehner is currently on a career-high, seven-game winning streak. Lehner has allowed only 13 goals in his last 10 games (7-1-2, 1.34 GAA, .952 save percentage). UPDATE: Lehner will start on Thursday night.

- The Islanders power play is 1-for-9 over the team's past four games.

- Brock Nelson has six points (3G, 3A) in his last five games, including a three-point night on Tuesday vs Carolina.

- Mathew Barzal has 11 points (3G, 8A) in six career games vs the Rangers. Anthony Beauvillier has 12 points (6G, 6A) in eight games vs the Rangers.

RANGERS NOTES:

- The Rangers have lost four straight games by a combined score of 22-5. Overall the Rangers are 3-5-2 in their last 10 games.

- Mika Zibanejad leads the Rangers with 35 points (12G, 23A) in 42 games this season. Zibanejad and Kevin Hayes are tied for the team lead in assists (23).

- Henrik Lundqvist was pulled in each of his last two starts after allowing six and five goals, respectively. Lundqvist, the Rangers all-star representative, is 12-11-7 this season with a 3.04 GAA and a .909 SV%.

- The Rangers (41 points) are 10 points back of a playoff spot, while also trailing behind the Florida Panthers (41 points), Carolina Hurricanes (45 points) and the Islanders (50 points).

- The Rangers are 1-1-5 on home ice since the start of December.

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Lol.  
JayBinQueens : 1/10/2019 8:27 pm : link
Buchnevich takes a run at Martin and ends up on his ass
Butch Goring  
B in ALB : 1/10/2019 8:35 pm : link
Is mentally defective right? He's a Fucking halfwit.
RE: Butch Goring  
JayBinQueens : 1/10/2019 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14257627 B in ALB said:
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Is mentally defective right? He's a Fucking halfwit.

Hes the islanders version of clyde Frazier
Wow  
JPinstripes : 1/10/2019 9:17 pm : link
what a goal by Quickie. 3-3.
RE: RE: Butch Goring  
B in ALB : 1/10/2019 9:22 pm : link
In comment 14257631 JayBinQueens said:
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In comment 14257627 B in ALB said:


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Is mentally defective right? He's a Fucking halfwit.


Hes the islanders version of clyde Frazier


Hardly.
Excellent - a heart breaking loss that will hopefully  
MetsAreBack : 1/10/2019 9:43 pm : link
Push us into full Tank mode and get many of these veterans traded in the next week or two

Hank with yet another impressive performance against the Fish Sticks - 4 goals on 20 shots
RE: Good thread  
The 12th Man : 1/10/2019 9:49 pm : link
In comment 14257481 Fish said:
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12th. Way to carry the torch. Happy New Year boys. Watch the system and style the way the Isles play. They haven’t had a system or structure like this since Laviolette and maybe Ted Nolan. It is enjoyable to watch.



Waited until it ended to respond to the Rags fans. It was not pretty but back in the victory column. The Calder Trophy winner with 3 points 1G and 2 A.
3rd Period very sloppy. As for the comments by ass clowns could careless what they think this team is in the rise. Without this coach and the system we lose this game. Love our goalie and thank God the PP finally got going.This team is growing and they are moving forward competing for Lord Stanley! Love this team right now! Go Isles! See you Saturday.
RE: Stopped by to see this shitshow  
The 12th Man : 1/10/2019 9:53 pm : link
In comment 14257491 pganut said:
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And it didn't disappoint. I think this sums it up.



Good to see you! Love this team right now!
How the Fuck does Staal  
mvftw : 1/10/2019 9:56 pm : link
Wear a Uniform is beyond me...
Worst Defenseman in Hockey for years...
4 goals and 10 assists  
The 12th Man : 1/10/2019 9:56 pm : link
By the Calder Trophy winner now in his 7 career games against the Rags!
RE: So good to have 12th Man back  
The 12th Man : 1/10/2019 10:04 pm : link
In comment 14257281 MetsAreBack said:
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its been what... 2-3 years... since he's been chirping here? (of course that year the Rangers ended up going deeper into the playoffs, or at least making the playoffs, than NYI did... but... details...)


Been here all the time not going any where. Enjoying every minute of this season! You picked a AAA coach we got a Hall of Famer! It shows!
And the tank rolls on  
Anakim : 1/10/2019 10:04 pm : link
KEEP ROLLIN', ROLLIN', ROLLIN', ROLLIN'
RE: RE: So good to have 12th Man back  
Anakim : 1/10/2019 10:06 pm : link
In comment 14257769 The 12th Man said:
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its been what... 2-3 years... since he's been chirping here? (of course that year the Rangers ended up going deeper into the playoffs, or at least making the playoffs, than NYI did... but... details...)



Been here all the time not going any where. Enjoying every minute of this season! You picked a AAA coach we got a Hall of Famer! It shows!



Bwahahahaha. A) Barry Trotz is not a HOFer; B) you clearly missed the part where we've committed to rebuilding. If we wanted to hire a big name, we would have. You don't think the Rangers would hire Joel Quenneville if they wanted?
Isles didn't play great tonight obviously  
Metnut : 1/10/2019 10:13 pm : link
Rangers played harder and clearly wanted to beat their rivals. I'm sure most NYR fans didn't mind missing out on the loser point tonight.

I'll still take the 2 points for NYI. Tip of the cap to the Isles fans at MSG who made some noise. Gotta win again vs these guys on Saturday with the Golden State Lightning coming to town on Sunday.

Isles now 10-2 in last 12 and 7-1 in last 8. Isles within 2 points and have games in hand on CLB and PIT, so home ice for the first round still should be the goal.

Third line was certainly a liability tonight. Trotz is trying to establish a system so I get it, but I'd much rather see HoSang and Dal Colle on that line.
Not a Hall of Famer  
The 12th Man : 1/10/2019 10:15 pm : link
4th most wins I say your wrong. As for complete rebuild that is great you think you were going to talk a quality coach to coach an over the hill goalie and a team that has guys who took home town discounts who are not even worth the home town discount. The Islanders future is bright and the future is now. It took a lot longer than it should have but hell it is now worth the wait.
RE: Not a Hall of Famer  
MetsAreBack : 1/10/2019 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14257795 The 12th Man said:
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4th most wins I say your wrong. As for complete rebuild that is great you think you were going to talk a quality coach to coach an over the hill goalie and a team that has guys who took home town discounts who are not even worth the home town discount. The Islanders future is bright and the future is now. It took a lot longer than it should have but hell it is now worth the wait.


I literally heard this same quote from you here 3 and 4 years ago. But ... enjoy your Super Bowl victory tonight (and likely Saturday too) -- Rangers fans just don't care. We have embraced the rebuild.
RE: Not a Hall of Famer  
Anakim : 1/10/2019 10:24 pm : link
In comment 14257795 The 12th Man said:
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4th most wins I say your wrong. As for complete rebuild that is great you think you were going to talk a quality coach to coach an over the hill goalie and a team that has guys who took home town discounts who are not even worth the home town discount. The Islanders future is bright and the future is now. It took a lot longer than it should have but hell it is now worth the wait.


There's no HHOF category for coaches. There is one for BUILDERS, but what exactly did Trotz build? The Capitals won the Cup in the end, but Trotz never really built a long-lasting team. He's not in the same category as Babcock or Quenneville.

Okay? congratulations. The Islanders are doing well. Good for you. Meanwhile, we're rebuilding. You guys should know a little something about rebuilding...
Trotz is absolutely a hall famer  
Metnut : 1/10/2019 10:27 pm : link
Cup winner and is going to be really high on the all-time win list when it's all said and done.

Hard to really evaluate NYR coach given what he has to work with this season. Maybe it'll work out, but the full rebuilding path can be a long one with no guarantees that things work out. The fact that NYR is a prime destination for free agents gives them an advantage that a lot of rebuilding teams don't have.

I'm pretty happy with where the Isles are at. Good chance at playoffs this year, top 5 farm system per the Athletic's prospect guru Corey Pronman, budding young super star in Matt Barzal, and a ton of cap room since Toronto did the honor of paying $11.5 AAV for Tavares' decline years.
RE: Not a Hall of Famer  
Stufftherun : 1/10/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14257795 The 12th Man said:
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4th most wins I say your wrong. As for complete rebuild that is great you think you were going to talk a quality coach to coach an over the hill goalie and a team that has guys who took home town discounts who are not even worth the home town discount. The Islanders future is bright and the future is now. It took a lot longer than it should have but hell it is now worth the wait.


Looks like he recently passed future HOF coach, Lindy Ruff.
RE: RE: RE: So good to have 12th Man back  
pganut : 1/10/2019 10:29 pm : link
In comment 14257775 Anakim said:
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Bwahahahaha. A) Barry Trotz is not a HOFer
This is categorically wrong. Or deliberately obtuse. The man is 4th all time in wins (785) and is a Stanley Cup champion. Also a builder in NSH as he educated a public and grew a hockey community in a non traditional market and established the basis for a successful, if not upper echelon NHL franchise. That also carries a lot of weight in the NHL grand scheme of things.

But you knew that.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So good to have 12th Man back  
Metnut : 1/10/2019 10:34 pm : link
In comment 14257815 pganut said:
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Bwahahahaha. A) Barry Trotz is not a HOFer

This is categorically wrong. Or deliberately obtuse. The man is 4th all time in wins (785) and is a Stanley Cup champion. Also a builder in NSH as he educated a public and grew a hockey community in a non traditional market and established the basis for a successful, if not upper echelon NHL franchise. That also carries a lot of weight in the NHL grand scheme of things.

But you knew that.


Please come back PGA. Understand that nightly gamethreads aren't in the cards, but you contributing to some sort of running Isles conversation during the rest of the season would be pretty awesome.
RE: When Jack Hughes is pulling on his Rangers sweater at the draft  
Jay on the Island : 1/10/2019 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14257036 Greg from LI said:
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These losses will all be worth it

I wouldn't discount Kaapo Kakko. He might surpass Hughes as the #1 pick.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So good to have 12th Man back  
Anakim : 1/10/2019 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14257815 pganut said:
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In comment 14257775 Anakim said:


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Bwahahahaha. A) Barry Trotz is not a HOFer

This is categorically wrong. Or deliberately obtuse. The man is 4th all time in wins (785) and is a Stanley Cup champion. Also a builder in NSH as he educated a public and grew a hockey community in a non traditional market and established the basis for a successful, if not upper echelon NHL franchise. That also carries a lot of weight in the NHL grand scheme of things.

But you knew that.


So let's see:


That was a cute little rant, but let's look at the facts, shall we? Here is the link of the Builders in the HHOF. Aside from Pat Burns and Pat Quinn, who many acknowledge were inducted for sentimental reasons more than their actual hockey legacy, how would you put Trotz on that illustrious list? I'm genuinely curious.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: RE: So good to have 12th Man back  
B in ALB : 1/10/2019 10:42 pm : link
In comment 14257815 pganut said:
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In comment 14257775 Anakim said:


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Bwahahahaha. A) Barry Trotz is not a HOFer

This is categorically wrong. Or deliberately obtuse. The man is 4th all time in wins (785) and is a Stanley Cup champion. Also a builder in NSH as he educated a public and grew a hockey community in a non traditional market and established the basis for a successful, if not upper echelon NHL franchise. That also carries a lot of weight in the NHL grand scheme of things.

But you knew that.


pga - shut your foul sewer. Crawl back in your hole and eat shit.


9-0 that last go. Why do they even bother? Any chance at the real title?

Good to see you my friend.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: So good to have 12th Man back  
Anakim : 1/10/2019 10:52 pm : link
In comment 14257832 Anakim said:
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In comment 14257775 Anakim said:


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Bwahahahaha. A) Barry Trotz is not a HOFer

This is categorically wrong. Or deliberately obtuse. The man is 4th all time in wins (785) and is a Stanley Cup champion. Also a builder in NSH as he educated a public and grew a hockey community in a non traditional market and established the basis for a successful, if not upper echelon NHL franchise. That also carries a lot of weight in the NHL grand scheme of things.

But you knew that.



So let's see:


That was a cute little rant, but let's look at the facts, shall we? Here is the link of the Builders in the HHOF. Aside from Pat Burns and Pat Quinn, who many acknowledge were inducted for sentimental reasons more than their actual hockey legacy, how would you put Trotz on that illustrious list? I'm genuinely curious. Link - ( New Window )


And to further expound on that, Ken Hitchcock has more wins, no? He also a Cup like Trotz does and has a better winning percentage in the regular season and the playoffs. Would you induct Hitch into the Builders wing? Sounds like Hitch would get in before Trotz...unless Trotz wins another Cup.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: So good to have 12th Man back  
pganut : 1/10/2019 10:59 pm : link
In comment 14257832 Anakim said:
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That was a cute little rant, but let's look at the facts, shall we? Here is the link of the Builders in the HHOF. Aside from Pat Burns and Pat Quinn, who many acknowledge were inducted for sentimental reasons more than their actual hockey legacy, how would you put Trotz on that illustrious list? I'm genuinely curious. Link - ( New Window )


Thanks for the link, but unnecessary. I think that the league values NSH as a franchise and holds it up there as an example of growing the game at its best. And Trotz was there from the get-go and literally held classes for the people of Nashville to first learn the game and then to grow to be among the most vocal crowds in the game and a feared destination. That’s just my opinion, but if a guy like me not even affiliated with a team can see that, I imagine those in the game certainly do. Especially guys named Bettman. But his coaching alone will have him there.

And B, I’m glad you brought it up. I wanted to keep it on the DL about my foul sewer actually being possibly infected. Just giving you a head’s up. You may wanna see your guy.
My boy Pganut  
Fish : 1/11/2019 12:27 am : link
And me with a big FU to B in Alb.
RE: RE: Not a Hall of Famer  
The 12th Man : 1/11/2019 7:36 am : link
In comment 14257803 Anakim said:
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4th most wins I say your wrong. As for complete rebuild that is great you think you were going to talk a quality coach to coach an over the hill goalie and a team that has guys who took home town discounts who are not even worth the home town discount. The Islanders future is bright and the future is now. It took a lot longer than it should have but hell it is now worth the wait.



There's no HHOF category for coaches. There is one for BUILDERS, but what exactly did Trotz build? The Capitals won the Cup in the end, but Trotz never really built a long-lasting team. He's not in the same category as Babcock or Quenneville.

Okay? congratulations. The Islanders are doing well. Good for you. Meanwhile, we're rebuilding. You guys should know a little something about rebuilding...


You Rag’s fans crack me up. What exactly have you won in the last 20 years? NOTHING! The only difference is you have spent way more in your epic failure. Both franchises have nothing to show for the last 2 decades. It is all about Cups. I said this before and I will say it again, the Islanders will get one before the Rags. Enjoy the rebuild.
RE: My boy Pganut  
B in ALB : 1/11/2019 7:38 am : link
In comment 14257894 Fish said:
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And me with a big FU to B in Alb.


Shouldn't you be...... Sucking it?
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The 12th Man : 1/11/2019 7:42 am : link
In comment 14257822 Metnut said:
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In comment 14257775 Anakim said:


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Bwahahahaha. A) Barry Trotz is not a HOFer

This is categorically wrong. Or deliberately obtuse. The man is 4th all time in wins (785) and is a Stanley Cup champion. Also a builder in NSH as he educated a public and grew a hockey community in a non traditional market and established the basis for a successful, if not upper echelon NHL franchise. That also carries a lot of weight in the NHL grand scheme of things.

But you knew that.



Please come back PGA. Understand that nightly gamethreads aren't in the cards, but you contributing to some sort of running Isles conversation during the rest of the season would be pretty awesome.

I concur, it is much better than listening to the whining bitching Ranger fans. Oh that is right there are no more Ranger threats they only do that when they are good. There is the definition of fair-weather. PGA enjoy this the best is yet to come for our Islanders!
By the way how nice was it to  
The 12th Man : 1/11/2019 7:54 am : link
Hear the crowd so boisterous in our 3rd home last night. The Let’s Go Islanders chats and the roar when Bailey put in the game winner was very sweet.
a BBI minor classic  
ColHowPepper : 1/11/2019 8:02 am : link
a pleasure to take in all the stench and the perfume, the love and the ridicule, among the entrenched luminaries!! (:
my fellow rangers fans  
bigbluehoya : 1/11/2019 8:05 am : link
why do you bother with these clowns?

at least when pga / feelsy / Fekker were here you could have a meaningful (if chippy) discussion between the benches, but what's left of their following here is a true clown show.

Hard to watch.
as for the tank  
bigbluehoya : 1/11/2019 8:17 am : link
being 9th from the bottom doesn't sound like a very successful mission, but they're only 4 points up from dead last. If they throw some body weight into the skid here, it could start looking better quickly.

They could do themselves a real favor by moving Hayes and Zucc a bit earlier than the deadline. Convince a contender that they can save themselves a bidding war by move early, and send them packing.

Haven't spent any time on the forum for the rangers this season because a lot of people don't like to hear others vocally hoping for the team to lose, and I get it. I keep it to myself mostly. Hopefully some more interesting conversations to be had once the TDL approaches and there are different things to discuss.

Until then, one month until pitchers and catchers....

Hope the New Year is off to a good start for everyone.
RE: my fellow rangers fans  
Anakim : 1/11/2019 8:18 am : link
In comment 14257945 bigbluehoya said:
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why do you bother with these clowns?

at least when pga / feelsy / Fekker were here you could have a meaningful (if chippy) discussion between the benches, but what's left of their following here is a true clown show.

Hard to watch.


12th Man is delusional, to say the least
RE: my fellow rangers fans  
The 12th Man : 1/11/2019 8:19 am : link
In comment 14257945 bigbluehoya said:
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why do you bother with these clowns?

at least when pga / feelsy / Fekker were here you could have a meaningful (if chippy) discussion between the benches, but what's left of their following here is a true clown show.

Hard to watch.


What exactly am I missing? Started a thread the same pubescent Ranger fans come on with their usual comments. You knew it would happen. So here we are, the Islanders are an improving young team with a star in the making. The Rangers a team that is rebuilding but yet with many overpaid veterans that need to be moved in order for the real improvement to happen. Been there done that, it sucks to go through especially with a coach that is learning as he goes too. There are better days ahead for both franchises, the Islanders though looks like wil happen sooner rather than later.
RE: my fellow rangers fans  
B in ALB : 1/11/2019 8:20 am : link
In comment 14257945 bigbluehoya said:
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why do you bother with these clowns?

at least when pga / feelsy / Fekker were here you could have a meaningful (if chippy) discussion between the benches, but what's left of their following here is a true clown show.

Hard to watch.


12th man and the other mental defectives are all that the isles have left on BBI. Sad!
RE: RE: my fellow rangers fans  
bigbluehoya : 1/11/2019 8:20 am : link
In comment 14257957 The 12th Man said:
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why do you bother with these clowns?

at least when pga / feelsy / Fekker were here you could have a meaningful (if chippy) discussion between the benches, but what's left of their following here is a true clown show.

Hard to watch.



What exactly am I missing? Started a thread the same pubescent Ranger fans come on with their usual comments. You knew it would happen. So here we are, the Islanders are an improving young team with a star in the making. The Rangers a team that is rebuilding but yet with many overpaid veterans that need to be moved in order for the real improvement to happen. Been there done that, it sucks to go through especially with a coach that is learning as he goes too. There are better days ahead for both franchises, the Islanders though looks like wil happen sooner rather than later.


Cool. Enjoy it. Take care.
We all need to remember  
The 12th Man : 1/11/2019 8:49 am : link
That though we all have our ancillary teams that we root for this is and we are 1st and foremost Giants fans. The rest is gravy. We all smile a little longer walk a little brisker and feel a little better when BigBlue is good. This has not easy as of late. So until that happens again I have to hope my other teams can get us through until next season starts.
RE: RE: my fellow rangers fans  
The 12th Man : 1/11/2019 9:06 am : link
In comment 14257958 B in ALB said:
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why do you bother with these clowns?

at least when pga / feelsy / Fekker were here you could have a meaningful (if chippy) discussion between the benches, but what's left of their following here is a true clown show.

Hard to watch.



12th man and the other mental defectives are all that the isles have left on BBI

You know I was in Wal-Mart the other day having to pick up a few things and there was a guy in the parking lot bringing in the shopping carts. I stood there thinking about what this poor guy goes through every day. I thought thank God there are positions for people who need it. Then I thought what kind of mentality does it take to want to do that each day. Then I came on here and read some of your posts and now I know exactly the mentality it takes. Make sure you clean out the carts before you bring them in today.
One thing that's becoming increasingly clear is that  
Metnut : 1/11/2019 9:07 am : link
Devon Toews should've made the team out of camp. He's already playing like a top 4 dman straight out of the AHL. It'll be interesting to see who ends up sitting when Hickey comes back. IMO, Hickey or Pelech need to be in the press box.

With Toews, Boychuk's renaissance year, the emergence of Pulock and Mayfield under Trotz and having Dobson and Wilde on the farm, the Islanders looks really set to be good on D for a long time.

It's one of the more dramatic turnarounds for a unit that i've ever seen in sports. Would be like the Giants offensive line turning into an asset next year with young guys signed long term and cheap everywhere.
RE: One thing that's becoming increasingly clear is that  
feelflows : 1/11/2019 9:13 am : link
In comment 14258012 Metnut said:
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Devon Toews should've made the team out of camp. He's already playing like a top 4 dman straight out of the AHL. It'll be interesting to see who ends up sitting when Hickey comes back. IMO, Hickey or Pelech need to be in the press box.

With Toews, Boychuk's renaissance year, the emergence of Pulock and Mayfield under Trotz and having Dobson and Wilde on the farm, the Islanders looks really set to be good on D for a long time.

It's one of the more dramatic turnarounds for a unit that i've ever seen in sports. Would be like the Giants offensive line turning into an asset next year with young guys signed long term and cheap everywhere.


Management knew he was ready. Just needed some seasoning after a long injury layoff. That and Snow screwed the pooch with the Pelch one way contract haha

It's glaring how important Filpula is to the team. They have played like crap since his injury. I never would have guessed it.

Hopefully they keep the toughness to one line at home. With last change, no need to roll out Johnston on L3.

RE: RE: my fellow rangers fans  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2019 9:16 am : link
In comment 14257957 The 12th Man said:
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an improving young team


"Young".....

Next five Islanders leading scorers after Barzal:
28 year old Anders Lee
29 year old Josh Bailey
27 year old Brock Nelson
28 year old Jordan Eberle
34 year old Valtteri Filppula

They aren't actually all that young.
Now you're insulting a hard working  
B in ALB : 1/11/2019 9:18 am : link
guy who's just trying to make a living at a Walmart? My 11th grader works at the local grocery store taking care of the carts on weekends to pay for his car and have some spending money.

You're a real piece of shit, 12th Man.
RE: One thing that's becoming increasingly clear is that  
pjcas18 : 1/11/2019 9:23 am : link
In comment 14258012 Metnut said:
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Devon Toews should've made the team out of camp. He's already playing like a top 4 dman straight out of the AHL. It'll be interesting to see who ends up sitting when Hickey comes back. IMO, Hickey or Pelech need to be in the press box.

With Toews, Boychuk's renaissance year, the emergence of Pulock and Mayfield under Trotz and having Dobson and Wilde on the farm, the Islanders looks really set to be good on D for a long time.

It's one of the more dramatic turnarounds for a unit that i've ever seen in sports. Would be like the Giants offensive line turning into an asset next year with young guys signed long term and cheap everywhere.


No respect for Quinnipiac. Toews has an NHL role IMO.
did I miss pganut on here?  
Drewcon40 : 1/11/2019 9:30 am : link
Typical game (as of late) for both franchises. As a Rangers fan - I still felt last night didn't have the intensity as it did just a few short years ago. I commented earlier in the year that I thought the Islanders would balance out nicely after Tavares and his pajamas left (both financially and in terms of roster balance).

12th man is not totally wrong. I am not sure who "wins a cup first", the Islanders sure look like they are closer to having a contender but teams can come up short and then have to rebuild (NYR 2014 and 2015),

Hopefully (from a Ranger fan perspective), we can break the Barclay's curse. I certainly am not rooting for loses but if we land a Hughes or Kakko - it would certainly help getting this team on the right track.

While I take nothing away from the Islanders (or the fans on this board) for the win. I was impressed by the Rangers who without Hayes (no excuse but one of our better players) and since Jan 3 (Pittsburgh game) and a west coast trip that was awful, I thought the Rangers hung in there pretty well. No points for trying hard but I was happy that we brought some emotion. I am not sure if it was due to the opponent or maybe just trying to get past the West trip but we hung in there and played a strong third.

We lost to a better team.
RE: RE: RE: my fellow rangers fans  
feelflows : 1/11/2019 9:32 am : link
In comment 14258024 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14257957 The 12th Man said:


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an improving young team



"Young".....

Next five Islanders leading scorers after Barzal:
28 year old Anders Lee
29 year old Josh Bailey
27 year old Brock Nelson
28 year old Jordan Eberle
34 year old Valtteri Filppula

They aren't actually all that young.


The core they are building on is around Barzal, Beau, Pulock, Ho Sang, Dal Colle, Toews.. with the vets of Lee, Bailey, Leddy and Nelson

They are fine with age, and have an impressive crop coming up after that.

When you're bad for that long, you tend to have talented youth in the wings.
RE: did I miss pganut on here?  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2019 9:33 am : link
In comment 14258045 Drewcon40 said:
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I am not sure who "wins a cup first", the Islanders sure look like they are closer to having a contender but teams can come up short and then have to rebuild (NYR 2014 and 2015),


Oh sure, they're absolutely closer than the Rangers, but that means almost nothing since the Rangers are putrid. It's like saying Chicago is closer to Hawaii than New York - either way you're still a helluva long way away.
RE: RE: RE: RE: my fellow rangers fans  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2019 9:37 am : link
In comment 14258048 feelflows said:
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The core they are building on is around Barzal, Beau, Pulock, Ho Sang, Dal Colle, Toews


Outside of Barzal, none of those guys are exactly prime building blocks of a Cup team.
RE: RE: did I miss pganut on here?  
Drewcon40 : 1/11/2019 9:41 am : link
In comment 14258050 Greg from LI said:
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Oh sure, they're absolutely closer than the Rangers, but that means almost nothing since the Rangers are putrid. It's like saying Chicago is closer to Hawaii than New York - either way you're still a helluva long way away.


Good comparison.

The only thing I would disagree with on 12th man is the "3rd home", that's trying a bit too hard. I "think" he has having some good natured fun. I am (unfortunately) a Mets fan and I wouldn't call the Bronx the Mets 2nd home and certainly know what Shea and Citi look(ed) like during Subway Series.

But, I am sure there were boisterous Islander fans at MSG last night.

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