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NFT: Mets sign Jed Lowrie to 2 year deal

ryanmkeane : 1/10/2019 5:47 pm
Nice little signing!
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Wow didn't expect this.  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 5:49 pm : link
Nice.
From Twitter  
spike : 1/10/2019 5:50 pm : link
Jed Lowrie, shockingly, used to be represented by.... Brodie Van Wagenen.

McNeil is going to be in AAA again
Weird that we spent $20M  
Metnut : 1/10/2019 5:52 pm : link
on an infielder given out limited budget and needs elsewhere.

Hes a solid player who I like but why bury McNeil?
8.5  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 5:52 pm : link
fWAR over the last two years. Wow.
Is it fair to think thi frees up the Mets to trade McNeil in a  
Meats and Cheeses : 1/10/2019 5:53 pm : link
package for a starting caliber centerfielder?
Go sign  
spike : 1/10/2019 5:53 pm : link
Pollack
Something 's got to give eventually...  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 5:53 pm : link
Frazier needs to be axed. Maybe JD Davis starts in Syracuse.
and yet another move nobody saw coming...  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 5:54 pm : link
Hmmm.....
Very nice  
JPinstripes : 1/10/2019 5:56 pm : link
deal for the Mets.
Sign Marwin gonzalez  
spike : 1/10/2019 5:57 pm : link
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RE: Weird that we spent $20M  
ryanmkeane : 1/10/2019 5:57 pm : link
In comment 14257408 Metnut said:
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on an infielder given out limited budget and needs elsewhere.

Hes a solid player who I like but why bury McNeil?

Its 2 years and 10M total.
Interesting  
jpkmets : 1/10/2019 5:58 pm : link
have to think an IF is possibly getting traded. Interested to see where this goes before spring training.

Lowrie is a nice player -- hopefully last year wasn't a lightbulb burning bright before it blows -- 34 is not young in a post-PED age.
This is interesting..  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 5:59 pm : link
He's almost assuredly being signed to play 3B at this money and he probably deserves to over every other candidate based on what he did last year. Does this push McNeil to LF with Nimmo in CF? Does this spell the end for Frazier even if we eat some of his contract?
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ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:10 pm : link
@Timbritten
Mets envision Lowrie playing every day, with his flexibility allowing them some better matchups elsewhere on the diamond. Lowrie's good from both sides of the plate, and he can also back up Rosario at SS.
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ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:11 pm : link
Jared Diamond

@jareddiamond
A word about Jed Lowrie: Successful baseball teams don't worry about positional "fit" nearly as much as you might think. They seek out the best available talent and try to amass as much of it as possible and then figure out how to deploy it. Just look at the '17 and '18 Dodgers.

4m
I can't say I'm happy with this move, given that I want to see  
Ira : 1/10/2019 6:12 pm : link
McNeil play. One thing is clear. Frazier is on his way out.
Keith Law LOVES IT!  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:12 pm : link
keithlaw

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If Lowrie stays healthy, this is an absurdly good deal for the Mets. I have questions about where everyone plays, though.

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RE: I can't say I'm happy with this move, given that I want to see  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:13 pm : link
In comment 14257443 Ira said:
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McNeil play. One thing is clear. Frazier is on his way out.


Sounded like they were already gearing up for McNeil to start out as a super sub and that included LF/RF. You can easily shift Nimmo to CF, play McNeil in a corner, and still have two gold glove caliber players backing them all up on the bench.
Mind boggling they are not assuring ABs for McNeil  
weeg in the bronx : 1/10/2019 6:19 pm : link
He proved himself to be a very productive every day player.
wow weird/surprising move but I've always liked lowrie  
Eric on Li : 1/10/2019 6:20 pm : link
this is almost like a much cheaper version of signing Marwin. He hasn't played any SS the last couple years and it looks like he was deteriorating there defensively, but as a backup it doesn't really matter that much. Very interesting move.

Does make you wonder if there's another move coming because they can't possibly have enough at bats for all these guys.
Didn't see it posted but its 2 years  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:21 pm : link
20 million.
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ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:21 pm : link
Ehalt

@MattEhalt
Mets also are willing to use McNeil in the outfield so there could be at-bats there if Alonso thrives and Mets use Frazier/Lowrie as the infielders.
RE: wow weird/surprising move but I've always liked lowrie  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:22 pm : link
In comment 14257451 Eric on Li said:
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this is almost like a much cheaper version of signing Marwin. He hasn't played any SS the last couple years and it looks like he was deteriorating there defensively, but as a backup it doesn't really matter that much. Very interesting move.

Does make you wonder if there's another move coming because they can't possibly have enough at bats for all these guys.


Hopefully the odd man out is Frazier!
Lowrie is a better player than Marwin  
Metnut : 1/10/2019 6:24 pm : link
and I dont think its close. If it was one or the other, really happy with Lowrie.
I was thinking about it in comparison to M Gone too  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:24 pm : link
and I do see it. He offers IF versatility at 3 positions similar to Marwin but he's honestly a better hitter than him. He can't play the OF like M Gone can but if this move pushes McNeil to the OF making him a super sub there as well, it effectively does add more options all over just like MGone would have.
RE: Lowrie is a better player than Marwin  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:25 pm : link
In comment 14257455 Metnut said:
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and I dont think its close. If it was one or the other, really happy with Lowrie.


Yeah was just saying something similar. I like Marwin but think some team will overpay. This is a sweet deal for us.
McNeil in the OF as the lefty half of the Lagares/Broxton platoon  
Eric on Li : 1/10/2019 6:27 pm : link
would actually take care of a lot of the duplication. Not sure if he'd be better in CF than Nimmo or Conforto, but all 3 of them are athletic enough that it shouldn't kill you.

Then you've got Lowrie + Frazier + Davis + Alonso filling 3b/1b. With both Davis & Alonso having options left I believe.

Dom Smith is definitely running out of places to play (other than Cuse).
Lowrie is a natural 2 hitter  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:28 pm : link
1.) Nimmo CF
2.) Lowrie 3B
3.) Cano 2B
4.) Conforto RF
5.) Ramos C
6.) McNeil LF
7.) Alonso 1B
8.) Rosario SS

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PhiPsi125 : 1/10/2019 6:29 pm : link
In comment 14257442 ZGiants98 said:
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Jared Diamond

@jareddiamond
A word about Jed Lowrie: Successful baseball teams don't worry about positional "fit" nearly as much as you might think. They seek out the best available talent and try to amass as much of it as possible and then figure out how to deploy it. Just look at the '17 and '18 Dodgers.

4m


Lol, yeah. That and a $250 million payroll.

Dumb statement.
looks pretty close - probably swap in Frazier or Davis at 1b to start  
Eric on Li : 1/10/2019 6:32 pm : link
with Alonso at AAA. Frazier seems to be the better defender than Lowrie at 3b, so maybe Lowrie plays some 1st? Would make sense to get him time there so he can platoon with anyone in the IF.
There you go...  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:35 pm : link
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#Mets view Lowrie as their 2nd hole hitterwill play around INF. If Alonso struggles,Frazier plays 1st, Lowrie plays 3rd; Cano days off plays 2nd; Rosario days off plays SS; McNeil becomes extra OF.Mets eliminating rosters ifsone by oneadded lineup length and better balance.
it's an interesting signing and he's a good player  
Eric on Li : 1/10/2019 6:38 pm : link
still think the money may have been better spent on Robertson or Miller, but the depth of position players is impressive. Only concern is there's theoretically a lot riding on Callaway's roster usage, but hopefully the FO will be helping him with that.
Shrug..  
moze1021 : 1/10/2019 6:39 pm : link
..I'd rather they spend an extra $20M AAV and sign Machado or Harper...

..but I guess they weren't Brodie's clients, seems like a prerequisite for him..so no chance..
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moze1021 : 1/10/2019 6:40 pm : link
In comment 14257462 PhiPsi125 said:
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Jared Diamond

@jareddiamond
A word about Jed Lowrie: Successful baseball teams don't worry about positional "fit" nearly as much as you might think. They seek out the best available talent and try to amass as much of it as possible and then figure out how to deploy it. Just look at the '17 and '18 Dodgers.

4m



Lol, yeah. That and a $250 million payroll.

Dumb statement.


I mean..Mets should have a $200M+ payroll so it's not that dumb..
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ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:41 pm : link
Matt Ehalt

@MattEhalt
Hard to say anything but positive things about this deal. Mets are a better team and addressed a weakness while protecting themselves in case McNeil regresses, Frazier struggles or Alonso doesn't hit the ground running.
Sidenote.  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:44 pm : link
Cano is listed as the 2nd best 2B in MLB according to the Shredder.
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moze1021 : 1/10/2019 6:47 pm : link
In comment 14257474 ZGiants98 said:
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Matt Ehalt

@MattEhalt
Hard to say anything but positive things about this deal. Mets are a better team and addressed a weakness while protecting themselves in case McNeil regresses, Frazier struggles or Alonso doesn't hit the ground running.


Yeah to be clear this deal is fine .it just doesn't absolve them of the ridiculousness that is their lack of spending on premier free agents.
Only thing that's left is to shed Frazier, Lagares, and Vargas...  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:47 pm : link
Sign Harper. Package Conforto and Gimenez for Kluber.

159 wins.

:)
RE: Only thing that's left is to shed Frazier, Lagares, and Vargas...  
Eric on Li : 1/10/2019 6:48 pm : link
In comment 14257480 ZGiants98 said:
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Sign Harper. Package Conforto and Gimenez for Kluber.

159 wins.

:)


bullpen still too thin. otherwise that would work.
RE: Only thing that's left is to shed Frazier, Lagares, and Vargas...  
speedywheels : 1/10/2019 6:49 pm : link
In comment 14257480 ZGiants98 said:
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Sign Harper. Package Conforto and Gimenez for Kluber.

159 wins.

:)


Shoot for the stars - 162-0, baby!
RE: RE: Only thing that's left is to shed Frazier, Lagares, and Vargas...  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:49 pm : link
In comment 14257483 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 14257480 ZGiants98 said:


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Sign Harper. Package Conforto and Gimenez for Kluber.

159 wins.

:)



bullpen still too thin. otherwise that would work.


lol. ok. Sign Otto too then.
All the talk about Marwin..  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:50 pm : link
Lowrie has really been a better hitter, and especially 2 hitter than Pollock too.
Pretty cool...  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 6:56 pm : link
Yet another guy added who was an all star LAST YEAR.
RE: All the talk about Marwin..  
Jay on the Island : 1/10/2019 7:02 pm : link
In comment 14257487 ZGiants98 said:
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Lowrie has really been a better hitter, and especially 2 hitter than Pollock too.

Marwin is 5 years younger than Lowrie though.
RE: RE: All the talk about Marwin..  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 7:07 pm : link
In comment 14257501 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14257487 ZGiants98 said:


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Lowrie has really been a better hitter, and especially 2 hitter than Pollock too.


Marwin is 5 years younger than Lowrie though.


Sure but is he "that good"? Looks like a guy that had one outlier offensive year and a hot half last year. I like him and he offers versatility but this basically gave us the same thing with more offense. If Cespedes returns half way into the season, MGone was likely going to get benched anyway. Lowrie was worth more than Nimmo last year. And he's coming off back to back amazing seasons. Some guys put it together later in their careers and that seems to be the case for Lowrie.
I don't like McNeil being blocked by Lowrie and Cano.  
81_Great_Dane : 1/10/2019 7:14 pm : link
But I do see the logic in trying to assemble a whole bunch of guys who can play, have competition, keep the best guys and get rid of the other guys, one way or another.

Also: Don't underestimate the importance of having a solid AAA club. It's important to the development of the young guys that they be in a winning environment;

it's important to the new Syracuse Mets affiliate. Having a competitive team matters to the Syracuse fans and the local management. New affiliate, new relationship, make nice with them. Part of the point of moving the Mets' farm teams to Binghamton and Syracuse is to build out the fan base;

and the AAA squad is depth for the big league squad. So if this forces some decent guys down to the minors, or gives the Mets the luxury of keeping guys in AAA a little longer, that works for them too.
So talking roster spots for hitters  
Eric on Li : 1/10/2019 7:22 pm : link
5 starters locked in (Ramos, Cano, Rosario, Conforto, Nimmo)
2 pure CF options (Lagares, Broxton)
3 1b/3b options (Lowrie, McNeil, Frazier)
1 backup catcher
= 11 locks

Then Davis, Dom, Rivera, Alonso, and maybe even Guillorme or Cecchini competing for the final 1 or 2 spots. No issue with any of these guys having to earn their spot on the roster. Don't love the idea of Mcneil potentially getting lost in the shuffle.
Have to find McNeil time  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 7:25 pm : link
and based on what the beats are reporting they are going to shift him to the OF predominantly which I really don't hate, at least for now. If injuries hit, or Cespedes returns, maybe he can go back to the IF more later and hopefully Frazier is off the team by then.
RE: So talking roster spots for hitters  
ZGiants98 : 1/10/2019 7:28 pm : link
In comment 14257521 Eric on Li said:
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5 starters locked in (Ramos, Cano, Rosario, Conforto, Nimmo)
2 pure CF options (Lagares, Broxton)
3 1b/3b options (Lowrie, McNeil, Frazier)
1 backup catcher
= 11 locks

Then Davis, Dom, Rivera, Alonso, and maybe even Guillorme or Cecchini competing for the final 1 or 2 spots. No issue with any of these guys having to earn their spot on the roster. Don't love the idea of Mcneil potentially getting lost in the shuffle.


Dilson Herrera still only 24 and might be finally getting healthy. Liriano, Davis, Blanco.. all guys looking to throw down for spots in ST. Im ready!
Who knows how much money they have  
bhill410 : 1/10/2019 7:40 pm : link
But as someone mentioned this seems like 20 miller that would have been better served on Robertson due to impact on Mcniel. This shows me that 1) they dont believe in McNeil and 2) and small miniscule hope that Mets were secretly in on Harper are now completely squashed.
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