according to statcast his sprint speed is the same as Conforto, Nimmo is a little faster than both with his top speed actually being the same as Lagares, but he obviously doesn't get great reads relative to his top speed.
But as someone mentioned this seems like 20 miller that would have been better served on Robertson due to impact on Mcniel. This shows me that 1) they dont believe in McNeil and 2) and small miniscule hope that Mets were secretly in on Harper are now completely squashed.
I really don't think people are seeing this move the right way yet. Almost everyone was on board with Marwin Gonzalez, right? Well this gives us the exact same thing, only with more offense. Pushing McNeil to play the OF more gives us more options in the OF and IF the same way MGone would have.
This actually reminds me of the Grandal/Ramos situation. Brody got the better value in Ramos when Grandal pushed his luck. Same thing here again. MGone is asking for the moon and we accomplished the same thing with a better hitter for cheaper.
Sound plan to put McNeil in the outfield. Very Mets-like to weaken defense and play someone out of position.
True but most guys that are above average at 2B/3B can handle LF and they did try him there last year a few times. BVW brought up that McNeil was pretty vocal to play there. Don't see how we are weakening any positions though. Cano is solid at 2B and Lowrie is solid defensively also. Is McNeil going to be any worse than Bruce or an ancient Bautista in a corner OF spot with Nimmo in CF?
Sound plan to put McNeil in the outfield. Very Mets-like to weaken defense and play someone out of position.
True but most guys that are above average at 2B/3B can handle LF and they did try him there last year a few times. BVW brought up that McNeil was pretty vocal to play there. Don't see how we are weakening any positions though. Cano is solid at 2B and Lowrie is solid defensively also. Is McNeil going to be any worse than Bruce or an ancient Bautista in a corner OF spot with Nimmo in CF?
So we have Nimmo and Conforto as the main OF starters. Then Legares, McNeil, Broxton and Davis will share time for the fourth spot? Very sporadic time in the infield? The reality is that they are taking would could very well be their best hitter and burying him.
But as someone mentioned this seems like 20 miller that would have been better served on Robertson due to impact on Mcniel. This shows me that 1) they dont believe in McNeil and 2) and small miniscule hope that Mets were secretly in on Harper are now completely squashed.
McNeil had a breakout year at age 26. It's only sensible to prepare for the possibility he might regress to his career mean. Of course, you hope he turned a corner but it would be foolish to count on that when low-cost option like Lowrie falls into your lap.
Mets were never going to pursue Harper and dish out a 350 million dollar contract.
Plus, both Machado and Harper's contracts are going to wind up being terrible deals down the road.
RE: RE: RE: McNeil...8 games started total in minor league career.
Sound plan to put McNeil in the outfield. Very Mets-like to weaken defense and play someone out of position.
True but most guys that are above average at 2B/3B can handle LF and they did try him there last year a few times. BVW brought up that McNeil was pretty vocal to play there. Don't see how we are weakening any positions though. Cano is solid at 2B and Lowrie is solid defensively also. Is McNeil going to be any worse than Bruce or an ancient Bautista in a corner OF spot with Nimmo in CF?
So we have Nimmo and Conforto as the main OF starters. Then Legares, McNeil, Broxton and Davis will share time for the fourth spot? Very sporadic time in the infield? The reality is that they are taking would could very well be their best hitter and burying him.
It seems like another deal is likely in the works.
RE: RE: RE: McNeil...8 games started total in minor league career.
Sound plan to put McNeil in the outfield. Very Mets-like to weaken defense and play someone out of position.
True but most guys that are above average at 2B/3B can handle LF and they did try him there last year a few times. BVW brought up that McNeil was pretty vocal to play there. Don't see how we are weakening any positions though. Cano is solid at 2B and Lowrie is solid defensively also. Is McNeil going to be any worse than Bruce or an ancient Bautista in a corner OF spot with Nimmo in CF?
So we have Nimmo and Conforto as the main OF starters. Then Legares, McNeil, Broxton and Davis will share time for the fourth spot? Very sporadic time in the infield? The reality is that they are taking would could very well be their best hitter and burying him.
I don't think JD Davis has been mentioned in the OF. He's strictly a 3B/1B IMO. If he plays anything else he might actually come out of the pen (Im not joking) I actually could see Davis starting in Syracuse also. I love McNeil but I also love depth and am sick of being decimated by injuries. Let's hope Mickey rotates McNeil in accordingly.
But as someone mentioned this seems like 20 miller that would have been better served on Robertson due to impact on Mcniel. This shows me that 1) they dont believe in McNeil and 2) and small miniscule hope that Mets were secretly in on Harper are now completely squashed.
McNeil had a breakout year at age 26. It's only sensible to prepare for the possibility he might regress to his career mean. Of course, you hope he turned a corner but it would be foolish to count on that when low-cost option like Lowrie falls into your lap.
Mets were never going to pursue Harper and dish out a 350 million dollar contract.
Plus, both Machado and Harper's contracts are going to wind up being terrible deals down the road.
Agree but McNeil has always hit. He only just "broke out" because of a late start and injuries. depth is good though.
But as someone mentioned this seems like 20 miller that would have been better served on Robertson due to impact on Mcniel. This shows me that 1) they dont believe in McNeil and 2) and small miniscule hope that Mets were secretly in on Harper are now completely squashed.
McNeil had a breakout year at age 26. It's only sensible to prepare for the possibility he might regress to his career mean. Of course, you hope he turned a corner but it would be foolish to count on that when low-cost option like Lowrie falls into your lap.
Mets were never going to pursue Harper and dish out a 350 million dollar contract.
Plus, both Machado and Harper's contracts are going to wind up being terrible deals down the road.
McNeil has always been a fantastic hitter. People like to throw out the age 26 thing as a negative insinuating that hes some late bloomer that got lucky. He had injuries that pushed him back a bit. Reality is that its no surprise that he came up to the pros hitting so well.
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Love the Jed Lowrie signing for the Mets. The teams to succeed them as NL champs (Cubs and Dodgers) have been defined by their offensive depth. A versatile switch-hitter like Lowrie makes a lot of sense. (Bonus style points for his rare two-earflap helmet.)
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Mets haven't forgotten about Jeff McNeil with the Jed Lowrie addition, plan is to play him more in the OF than previously thought.
Mets were never going to pursue Harper and dish out a 350 million dollar contract.
Plus, both Machado and Harper's contracts are going to wind up being terrible deals down the road.
That's exactly how the Mets ownership has conditioned Mets fans to think... I just don't understand the apathy to the situation.
Why wouldn't they dish out that contract? It makes no sense for them NOT to do it. They should be prepared to spend up to the luxury tax threshold every year and beyond some years if the players they add make them better.
Rarely do proven superstar 26 year old position player contracts bust.
Plus, If you are a perenniel playoff team and win 1 world series over the next decade, any amount of money is worth it.
Again..this Lowrie deal is fine...but it doesn't excuse the ridiculousness that is the Mets indifference to Harper/Machado...especially with the Phillies being a realistic landing spot.
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Lowrie is a great fit for Mets since they may need help at 1B and 3B and he can also spell Rosario at SS. Switch hitter whose best two offensive seasons were his last two. Mets are having among best winters in baseball.
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Politely, Jon: bullshit. Birdie Von Wigglesworth has now spent $30,000,000 a year of #Mets money on two former client middle infielders who will be 35 and 36 years old before the season is a month old - instead of, you know, Harper or Machado. Its madness. https://t.co/WHfLa3pBr1
I think he is going to settle for a short term deal in the 2-3 year range. I wasn't the biggest fan of signing him but for that short term deal it would be a great move especially for a team like Atlanta as opposed to signing Markakis, Adam Jones, or CarGO to a 1 year deal.
It's starting to look like Harper is heading back to the Nationals and Machado will be a Philly which really sucks for all of us.
bench right now is McNeil, Frazier, TJ Rivera, Broxton, and d'Arnaud; Bullpen includes Diaz, Familia, Lugo, and the rotation is awesome if they can remain healthy. The only true weak spot I see is Vargas and maybe left handed reliever.
What do you think we can expect from Rosario this year? Do you see him taking a big step forward? I think there are a few players that fans are discounting that could take big leaps, specifically Rosario and Matz, who I can see really moving the needle. Maybe even a healthy Lagares too.
You are such a fucking asshole and you wonder why people hate you.
35 years olds have a track record of improving year to year /sarcasm
you screamed all off-season for Marwin Gonzalez (who had a 1.8 fWAR last year, but when I said I would have preferred Lowrie was acquired in his 31 year when he had a 3.4 fWAR old vs his 35 year old season you say "he wasn't even good")
You are a clown and you embarrass your silly-ass self on every single thread you are on.
there was zero reason to attack me. none. simply have a fucking conversation without insulting someone.
What do you think we can expect from Rosario this year? Do you see him taking a big step forward? I think there are a few players that fans are discounting that could take big leaps, specifically Rosario and Matz, who I can see really moving the needle. Maybe even a healthy Lagares too.
I mean, he was the number one prospect in baseball for a reason. He has lighting fast hands. I think we finally start to see him calm down towards the end of the year and relax a little bit. He started to hit the final two months. Conservatively I see Rosario hitting league average with potential for more which would make him a 3 fWAR player easy.
I agree with Matz too. I don't anticipate a "Wheeler" type breakout but he will absolutely solidify the "4 spot". He got almost a full season under his belt last year, had an ERA in the 3's... also finished out the year strong. I expect him to become more reliable this year.
You are such a fucking asshole and you wonder why people hate you.
35 years olds have a track record of improving year to year /sarcasm
you screamed all off-season for Marwin Gonzalez (who had a 1.8 fWAR last year, but when I said I would have preferred Lowrie was acquired in his 31 year when he had a 3.4 fWAR old vs his 35 year old season you say "he wasn't even good")
You are a clown and you embarrass your silly-ass self on every single thread you are on.
there was zero reason to attack me. none. simply have a fucking conversation without insulting someone.
is that possible for you?
You are why people don't like Mets fans. You.
I was referring to Olbermann you fucking crazy maniac. lol.
You'd have to be a complete asshole to not like this move. lol
The move is ok...
But Harper or Machado would be better. That's the whole point.
If you start with the precondition that the Mets can not sign Machado or Harper, then their off-season had been pretty good.
If you don't start with that ridiculous precondition, the off-season has been completely half assed and is being overrated.
That's the point KO is making...
It also is a little weird that BVW is bringing in former clients who are at the very end of their careers.
That's fine. There is a contingent of fans that would have never been happy with anything unless we signed Harper or Machado. I get it. But at least admit it acknowledge that nothing barring that would have ever made you happy. There are 29 other teams and everyone wants those two players. They are going to cost 300+ million. It was always a long shot even if money was bottomless.
As for Lowrie, if you don't like this move than you shouldn't have liked Pollock or Marwin Gonzalez or any other addition because he's in that "tier" and just as good.
95 wRC+, 1.7 fWAR season. I was referring to what he did in 2014. Holy overreaction. Lowrie has clearly evolved in to a much better hitter over the last couple of seasons than he was earlier in his year.
bench right now is McNeil, Frazier, TJ Rivera, Broxton, and d'Arnaud; Bullpen includes Diaz, Familia, Lugo, and the rotation is awesome if they can remain healthy. The only true weak spot I see is Vargas and maybe left handed reliever.
Avilan is a good loogy. I think we are set there and he likely has a hand shake deal that he's made the team but they couldn't give him a roster spot until they 60 day Cespedes. Vargas was pretty good after his first 4-5 starts and we traded for some depth there also.
95 wRC+, 1.7 fWAR season. I was referring to what he did in 2014. Holy overreaction. Lowrie has clearly evolved in to a much better hitter over the last couple of seasons than he was earlier in his year.
5 years ago was his best season prior to the last two where he had a 120 wRC+ and a 3.4 fWAR.
bench right now is McNeil, Frazier, TJ Rivera, Broxton, and d'Arnaud; Bullpen includes Diaz, Familia, Lugo, and the rotation is awesome if they can remain healthy. The only true weak spot I see is Vargas and maybe left handed reliever.
Avilan is a good loogy. I think we are set there and he likely has a hand shake deal that he's made the team but they couldn't give him a roster spot until they 60 day Cespedes. Vargas was pretty good after his first 4-5 starts and we traded for some depth there also.
Avilan was a great signing for a minor league deal. I'm a bit surprised that he settled for a minor league deal.
Cano, 371 OBP
Lowrie, 374 OBP
Nimmo, 400 OBP
Conforto, 350 OBP
Ramos, 358 OBP
I really don't think people are seeing this move the right way yet. Almost everyone was on board with Marwin Gonzalez, right? Well this gives us the exact same thing, only with more offense. Pushing McNeil to play the OF more gives us more options in the OF and IF the same way MGone would have.
This actually reminds me of the Grandal/Ramos situation. Brody got the better value in Ramos when Grandal pushed his luck. Same thing here again. MGone is asking for the moon and we accomplished the same thing with a better hitter for cheaper.
Lol,sometimes you miss the little nuggets :)
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Lol,sometimes you miss the little nuggets :)
No I saw you throw his name out. lol. I was referring to the beats again who are nothing but a bunch of blind fools. Loving it.
Plus, we don't know that BVW is not planning another bigger move.
True but most guys that are above average at 2B/3B can handle LF and they did try him there last year a few times. BVW brought up that McNeil was pretty vocal to play there. Don't see how we are weakening any positions though. Cano is solid at 2B and Lowrie is solid defensively also. Is McNeil going to be any worse than Bruce or an ancient Bautista in a corner OF spot with Nimmo in CF?
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Lol,sometimes you miss the little nuggets :)
Now Im hoping the other name comes true. I'd love to add Allen even after his bad year.
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Sound plan to put McNeil in the outfield. Very Mets-like to weaken defense and play someone out of position.
True but most guys that are above average at 2B/3B can handle LF and they did try him there last year a few times. BVW brought up that McNeil was pretty vocal to play there. Don't see how we are weakening any positions though. Cano is solid at 2B and Lowrie is solid defensively also. Is McNeil going to be any worse than Bruce or an ancient Bautista in a corner OF spot with Nimmo in CF?
So we have Nimmo and Conforto as the main OF starters. Then Legares, McNeil, Broxton and Davis will share time for the fourth spot? Very sporadic time in the infield? The reality is that they are taking would could very well be their best hitter and burying him.
McNeil had a breakout year at age 26. It's only sensible to prepare for the possibility he might regress to his career mean. Of course, you hope he turned a corner but it would be foolish to count on that when low-cost option like Lowrie falls into your lap.
Mets were never going to pursue Harper and dish out a 350 million dollar contract.
Plus, both Machado and Harper's contracts are going to wind up being terrible deals down the road.
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Sound plan to put McNeil in the outfield. Very Mets-like to weaken defense and play someone out of position.
True but most guys that are above average at 2B/3B can handle LF and they did try him there last year a few times. BVW brought up that McNeil was pretty vocal to play there. Don't see how we are weakening any positions though. Cano is solid at 2B and Lowrie is solid defensively also. Is McNeil going to be any worse than Bruce or an ancient Bautista in a corner OF spot with Nimmo in CF?
So we have Nimmo and Conforto as the main OF starters. Then Legares, McNeil, Broxton and Davis will share time for the fourth spot? Very sporadic time in the infield? The reality is that they are taking would could very well be their best hitter and burying him.
It seems like another deal is likely in the works.
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Sound plan to put McNeil in the outfield. Very Mets-like to weaken defense and play someone out of position.
True but most guys that are above average at 2B/3B can handle LF and they did try him there last year a few times. BVW brought up that McNeil was pretty vocal to play there. Don't see how we are weakening any positions though. Cano is solid at 2B and Lowrie is solid defensively also. Is McNeil going to be any worse than Bruce or an ancient Bautista in a corner OF spot with Nimmo in CF?
So we have Nimmo and Conforto as the main OF starters. Then Legares, McNeil, Broxton and Davis will share time for the fourth spot? Very sporadic time in the infield? The reality is that they are taking would could very well be their best hitter and burying him.
I don't think JD Davis has been mentioned in the OF. He's strictly a 3B/1B IMO. If he plays anything else he might actually come out of the pen (Im not joking) I actually could see Davis starting in Syracuse also. I love McNeil but I also love depth and am sick of being decimated by injuries. Let's hope Mickey rotates McNeil in accordingly.
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But as someone mentioned this seems like 20 miller that would have been better served on Robertson due to impact on Mcniel. This shows me that 1) they dont believe in McNeil and 2) and small miniscule hope that Mets were secretly in on Harper are now completely squashed.
McNeil had a breakout year at age 26. It's only sensible to prepare for the possibility he might regress to his career mean. Of course, you hope he turned a corner but it would be foolish to count on that when low-cost option like Lowrie falls into your lap.
Mets were never going to pursue Harper and dish out a 350 million dollar contract.
Plus, both Machado and Harper's contracts are going to wind up being terrible deals down the road.
Agree but McNeil has always hit. He only just "broke out" because of a late start and injuries. depth is good though.
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But as someone mentioned this seems like 20 miller that would have been better served on Robertson due to impact on Mcniel. This shows me that 1) they dont believe in McNeil and 2) and small miniscule hope that Mets were secretly in on Harper are now completely squashed.
McNeil had a breakout year at age 26. It's only sensible to prepare for the possibility he might regress to his career mean. Of course, you hope he turned a corner but it would be foolish to count on that when low-cost option like Lowrie falls into your lap.
Mets were never going to pursue Harper and dish out a 350 million dollar contract.
Plus, both Machado and Harper's contracts are going to wind up being terrible deals down the road.
McNeil has always been a fantastic hitter. People like to throw out the age 26 thing as a negative insinuating that hes some late bloomer that got lucky. He had injuries that pushed him back a bit. Reality is that its no surprise that he came up to the pros hitting so well.
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Love the Jed Lowrie signing for the Mets. The teams to succeed them as NL champs (Cubs and Dodgers) have been defined by their offensive depth. A versatile switch-hitter like Lowrie makes a lot of sense. (Bonus style points for his rare two-earflap helmet.)
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Mets haven't forgotten about Jeff McNeil with the Jed Lowrie addition, plan is to play him more in the OF than previously thought.
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Mets were never going to pursue Harper and dish out a 350 million dollar contract.
Plus, both Machado and Harper's contracts are going to wind up being terrible deals down the road.
That's exactly how the Mets ownership has conditioned Mets fans to think... I just don't understand the apathy to the situation.
Why wouldn't they dish out that contract? It makes no sense for them NOT to do it. They should be prepared to spend up to the luxury tax threshold every year and beyond some years if the players they add make them better.
Rarely do proven superstar 26 year old position player contracts bust.
Plus, If you are a perenniel playoff team and win 1 world series over the next decade, any amount of money is worth it.
Again..this Lowrie deal is fine...but it doesn't excuse the ridiculousness that is the Mets indifference to Harper/Machado...especially with the Phillies being a realistic landing spot.
Afraid he may be right this time. At least a pause.
LOCK HIM UP!!
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to tell us the offseason is done?
Afraid he may be right this time. At least a pause.
LOCK HIM UP!!
Hoping they are still in on one more "name" reliever.
Mets additions this offseason so far:
RHP Edwin Diaz
2B Robinson Cano
RHP Kyle Dowdy
RHP Jeurys Familia
LHP Hector Santiago
LHP Luis Avilan
C Wilson Ramos
OF Keon Broxton
1B/3B J.D. Davis
2B Dilson Herrera
OF Rajai Davis
OF Gregor Blanco
OF Broxton Lee
LHP Ryan O'Rourke
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Ive also got a bridge to sell you.
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Politely, Jon: bullshit. Birdie Von Wigglesworth has now spent $30,000,000 a year of #Mets money on two former client middle infielders who will be 35 and 36 years old before the season is a month old - instead of, you know, Harper or Machado. Its madness. https://t.co/WHfLa3pBr1
It's starting to look like Harper is heading back to the Nationals and Machado will be a Philly which really sucks for all of us.
But Keith Olbermann is right. and I don't think I've typed those words ever.
Machado > Cano + Lowrie.
You'd have to be a complete asshole to not like this move. lol
10 million AAV for a 5 fWAR player last year and he's poo poo ing it. Pughleeze.
You are such a fucking asshole and you wonder why people hate you.
35 years olds have a track record of improving year to year /sarcasm
you screamed all off-season for Marwin Gonzalez (who had a 1.8 fWAR last year, but when I said I would have preferred Lowrie was acquired in his 31 year when he had a 3.4 fWAR old vs his 35 year old season you say "he wasn't even good")
You are a clown and you embarrass your silly-ass self on every single thread you are on.
there was zero reason to attack me. none. simply have a fucking conversation without insulting someone.
is that possible for you?
You are why people don't like Mets fans. You.
You'd have to be a complete asshole to not like this move. lol
The move is ok...
But Harper or Machado would be better. That's the whole point.
If you start with the precondition that the Mets can not sign Machado or Harper, then their off-season had been pretty good.
If you don't start with that ridiculous precondition, the off-season has been completely half assed and is being overrated.
That's the point KO is making...
It also is a little weird that BVW is bringing in former clients who are at the very end of their careers.
I mean, he was the number one prospect in baseball for a reason. He has lighting fast hands. I think we finally start to see him calm down towards the end of the year and relax a little bit. He started to hit the final two months. Conservatively I see Rosario hitting league average with potential for more which would make him a 3 fWAR player easy.
I agree with Matz too. I don't anticipate a "Wheeler" type breakout but he will absolutely solidify the "4 spot". He got almost a full season under his belt last year, had an ERA in the 3's... also finished out the year strong. I expect him to become more reliable this year.
You are such a fucking asshole and you wonder why people hate you.
35 years olds have a track record of improving year to year /sarcasm
you screamed all off-season for Marwin Gonzalez (who had a 1.8 fWAR last year, but when I said I would have preferred Lowrie was acquired in his 31 year when he had a 3.4 fWAR old vs his 35 year old season you say "he wasn't even good")
You are a clown and you embarrass your silly-ass self on every single thread you are on.
there was zero reason to attack me. none. simply have a fucking conversation without insulting someone.
is that possible for you?
You are why people don't like Mets fans. You.
I was referring to Olbermann you fucking crazy maniac. lol.
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You'd have to be a complete asshole to not like this move. lol
The move is ok...
But Harper or Machado would be better. That's the whole point.
If you start with the precondition that the Mets can not sign Machado or Harper, then their off-season had been pretty good.
If you don't start with that ridiculous precondition, the off-season has been completely half assed and is being overrated.
That's the point KO is making...
It also is a little weird that BVW is bringing in former clients who are at the very end of their careers.
That's fine. There is a contingent of fans that would have never been happy with anything unless we signed Harper or Machado. I get it. But at least admit it acknowledge that nothing barring that would have ever made you happy. There are 29 other teams and everyone wants those two players. They are going to cost 300+ million. It was always a long shot even if money was bottomless.
As for Lowrie, if you don't like this move than you shouldn't have liked Pollock or Marwin Gonzalez or any other addition because he's in that "tier" and just as good.
You typed it less than 5 min ago and you can't even remember it. Scroll up jackass.
Maybe I'd believe you if you didn't type "and..."
You don't have the benefit of the doubt with me. or probably anyone.
And 5 years ago Lowrie wasn't even good..
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Lowrie is coming off his best two seasons.
You typed it less than 5 min ago and you can't even remember it. Scroll up jackass.
Maybe I'd believe you if you didn't type "and..."
You don't have the benefit of the doubt with me. or probably anyone.
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Lowrie is coming off his best two seasons.
That was the only point that had anything to do with what you said. I was referring to what he did in 2014. Nobody fucking attacked you crazy.
My swearing and rant was at Olberman.
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this has anything to do with anything Olbermann said.
You typed it less than 5 min ago and you can't even remember it. Scroll up jackass.
Maybe I'd believe you if you didn't type "and..."
You don't have the benefit of the doubt with me. or probably anyone.
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And 5 years ago Lowrie wasn't even good..
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Lowrie is coming off his best two seasons.
That was the only point that had anything to do with what you said. I was referring to what he did in 2014. Nobody fucking attacked you crazy.
My swearing and rant was at Olberman.
Sorry, that was not clear to me.
I apologize.
Avilan is a good loogy. I think we are set there and he likely has a hand shake deal that he's made the team but they couldn't give him a roster spot until they 60 day Cespedes. Vargas was pretty good after his first 4-5 starts and we traded for some depth there also.
5 years ago was his best season prior to the last two where he had a 120 wRC+ and a 3.4 fWAR.
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bench right now is McNeil, Frazier, TJ Rivera, Broxton, and d'Arnaud; Bullpen includes Diaz, Familia, Lugo, and the rotation is awesome if they can remain healthy. The only true weak spot I see is Vargas and maybe left handed reliever.
Avilan is a good loogy. I think we are set there and he likely has a hand shake deal that he's made the team but they couldn't give him a roster spot until they 60 day Cespedes. Vargas was pretty good after his first 4-5 starts and we traded for some depth there also.
Avilan was a great signing for a minor league deal. I'm a bit surprised that he settled for a minor league deal.