sound go pro and not come back for the SR year. He was probably at least a low 1st last season. He was injured a lot this season- and now this.
This should never be a hard choice for a player. Take the money and run- 1st round money is life-changing- and the longer you stay in college, the more risk of a big injury or nit-picking at your talents.
This will likely bump him in to the round 5-6 area. A. back that is so reliant on sublet movement like Love, this is a big deal. ACL injuries are not what they used to be, but it is still a glaring negative.
This will likely bump him in to the round 5-6 area. A. back that is so reliant on sublet movement like Love, this is a big deal. ACL injuries are not what they used to be, but it is still a glaring negative.
Was your double-negative intentional there? I thought Love had a fabulous year as a cover guy and was first round material. What say you?
this is why I don't have an issue with ANY player who skips a bowl game for fear of injury right before the draft (unless it was the semi-finals or championship game).
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This should never be a hard choice for a player. Take the money and run- 1st round money is life-changing- and the longer you stay in college, the more risk of a big injury or nit-picking at your talents.
Yup. Easy decision. Never understood why people complicate it. College is always there. NFL money? Nope.
...is that friekin' star on his helmet. People wrote him off too, and especially after he played in that "meaningless" bowl game. Awful that it happened, and cost him lots of $$$, too. But he's coming back...dammit.
I hope that Bryce Love can return in a similar fashion to Smith. Watch him become an Eagle. Ugh.
I don't think we are going to be in the RB market with picks in those rounds, so it's a non-issue as far as the Giants are concerned, I think.
With five or six picks projected for rounds four and five, why shouldn't the Giants use one on a RB with 1st/2nd round potential? It's not like there is room on the roster for the eleven or so draft picks the Giants will have. Even if Love were to spend his rookie year on PUP/IR, it's not a bad investment as insurance at the position.
I wouldn't suggest it if the Giants only had their normal allotment of picks, but with so many picks in rounds four and five, using one of them on a boom or bust RB seems like a good "portfolio" strategy.
With five or six picks projected for rounds four and five, why shouldn't the Giants use one on a RB with 1st/2nd round potential? It's not like there is room on the roster for the eleven or so draft picks the Giants will have. Even if Love were to spend his rookie year on PUP/IR, it's not a bad investment as insurance at the position.
I wouldn't suggest it if the Giants only had their normal allotment of picks, but with so many picks in rounds four and five, using one of them on a boom or bust RB seems like a good "portfolio" strategy.
Wayne Gallman is the definition of JAG. I would spend our first 5th round pick or one of our 4ths on Love in a nanosecond. Unless there was a steal of a player on our long needs list a available at that slot.
I'd use one of our fourths on him. I feel bad in some ways, but the kid brought this on himself. How hard is it to just take the money. Got too greedy.
With five or six picks projected for rounds four and five, why shouldn't the Giants use one on a RB with 1st/2nd round potential? It's not like there is room on the roster for the eleven or so draft picks the Giants will have. Even if Love were to spend his rookie year on PUP/IR, it's not a bad investment as insurance at the position.
I wouldn't suggest it if the Giants only had their normal allotment of picks, but with so many picks in rounds four and five, using one of them on a boom or bust RB seems like a good "portfolio" strategy.
Wayne Gallman is the definition of JAG. I would spend our first 5th round pick or one of our 4ths on Love in a nanosecond. Unless there was a steal of a player on our long needs list a available at that slot.
I don't see Bryce Love being a better RB in the NFL than Gallman.
Maybe he thought that last year's draft had too many good running Â
there is no need to burn a mid round draft pick (yeah we have many) on a RB. Gallman is good enough but if you are not fond of him undrafted backs like Philip Lindsay and Josh Adams are found every year.
All this Bowl game drivel .... umm he was hurt in the last regular season game, not the bowl game. He had his surgery Dec 18. All right there in the linked article by the OP.
This will likely bump him in to the round 5-6 area. A. back that is so reliant on sublet movement like Love, this is a big deal. ACL injuries are not what they used to be, but it is still a glaring negative.
Was your double-negative intentional there? I thought Love had a fabulous year as a cover guy and was first round material. What say you?
I'd use one of our fourths on him. I feel bad in some ways, but the kid brought this on himself. How hard is it to just take the money. Got too greedy.
He brought this on himself because he is a brilliant kid who valued getting his degree from one of the best schools in the entire country?
What an asinine comment. I don't think you have any clue what greedy means, either.
One of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on this message board and that's saying a lot. Only someone on this board could equate a brilliant student valuing his degree from Stanford over guaranteed money as being greedy. Holy toledo.
I'd use one of our fourths on him. I feel bad in some ways, but the kid brought this on himself. How hard is it to just take the money. Got too greedy.
He brought this on himself because he is a brilliant kid who valued getting his degree from one of the best schools in the entire country?
What an asinine comment. I don't think you have any clue what greedy means, either.
One of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on this message board and that's saying a lot. Only someone on this board could equate a brilliant student valuing his degree from Stanford over guaranteed money as being greedy. Holy toledo.
I thought he went back to get a higher draft slot. I didn't know he went back for his degree. Calm down, shitstain.
This will likely bump him in to the round 5-6 area. A. back that is so reliant on sublet movement like Love, this is a big deal. ACL injuries are not what they used to be, but it is still a glaring negative.
Was your double-negative intentional there? I thought Love had a fabulous year as a cover guy and was first round material. What say you?
Cover guy?
Mistakenly referring to Julian Love the CB from Notre Dame I suspect. A bunch of love in this year’s draft.
All this Bowl game drivel .... umm he was hurt in the last regular season game, not the bowl game. He had his surgery Dec 18. All right there in the linked article by the OP.
Yes, my comment was about guys not wanting to risk injuries like this late in the season not that he injured his ACL in the bowl game.
I don't think we are going to be in the RB market with picks in those rounds, so it's a non-issue as far as the Giants are concerned, I think.
With five or six picks projected for rounds four and five, why shouldn't the Giants use one on a RB with 1st/2nd round potential? It's not like there is room on the roster for the eleven or so draft picks the Giants will have. Even if Love were to spend his rookie year on PUP/IR, it's not a bad investment as insurance at the position.
I wouldn't suggest it if the Giants only had their normal allotment of picks, but with so many picks in rounds four and five, using one of them on a boom or bust RB seems like a good "portfolio" strategy.
While you are right that it may be difficult for 11 picks to make the team, that problem usually takes care of itself in camp and preseason. I believe that Love will not make it to the 6th round. And even though the Giants have a lot of picks, the goal, at least in my estimation, is to fill the roster with talented players, preferably at positions of need. Because of Barkley's and Gallman's presence, the Giants are just fine going with UDFA at the position, something the Eagles have done well with in recent seasons.
In the 5th round, I believe the Giants have so many needs, that you have to give yourself as many chances as possible with your draft picks to fill them. I'm always a proponent for BPA, but let's face it, in the 5th round you have a lot of players with the same grade. The Giants need starters and role players to contribute and early.
Drafting another RB who will not play, and really would barely play when healthy, with a mid-round pick... it's a luxury this particular team cannot afford.
The Giants need a huge influx of talent on defense, and really at every single position, because even the positions that are pretty set, such as NT with BJ Hill, the Giants are in need of depth.
That's to say nothing of the OL and at QB.
If Love were still on the board in the 7th, sure, why not? But that just won't happen.
A 5th round pick is too early for a player who will be a career backup to Barkley.
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This will likely bump him in to the round 5-6 area. A. back that is so reliant on sublet movement like Love, this is a big deal. ACL injuries are not what they used to be, but it is still a glaring negative.
Was your double-negative intentional there? I thought Love had a fabulous year as a cover guy and was first round material. What say you?
Cover guy?
Yeah, you know, Bryce Love. The corner for Notre Dame. ; )
I totally screwed up. I thought this was about Julian Love. He got a concussion in the Cotton Bowl against Clemson. And I thought this was more bad news for him from that game.
In other words, I have a reading comprehension issue. ; )
to take any RB use the picks to select developmental
players or use them to move up to get someone you like .
There are a bucket full of FA RB,s each year for backup
reasons .
This should never be a hard choice for a player. Take the money and run- 1st round money is life-changing- and the longer you stay in college, the more risk of a big injury or nit-picking at your talents.
Was your double-negative intentional there? I thought Love had a fabulous year as a cover guy and was first round material. What say you?
Yup. Easy decision. Never understood why people complicate it. College is always there. NFL money? Nope.
I don't think we are going to be in the RB market with picks in those rounds, so it's a non-issue as far as the Giants are concerned, I think.
I hope that Bryce Love can return in a similar fashion to Smith. Watch him become an Eagle. Ugh.
I don't think we are going to be in the RB market with picks in those rounds, so it's a non-issue as far as the Giants are concerned, I think.
I wouldn't suggest it if the Giants only had their normal allotment of picks, but with so many picks in rounds four and five, using one of them on a boom or bust RB seems like a good "portfolio" strategy.
I wouldn't suggest it if the Giants only had their normal allotment of picks, but with so many picks in rounds four and five, using one of them on a boom or bust RB seems like a good "portfolio" strategy.
Wayne Gallman is the definition of JAG. I would spend our first 5th round pick or one of our 4ths on Love in a nanosecond. Unless there was a steal of a player on our long needs list a available at that slot.
Wayne Gallman is the definition of JAG. I would spend our first 5th round pick or one of our 4ths on Love in a nanosecond.
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With five or six picks projected for rounds four and five, why shouldn't the Giants use one on a RB with 1st/2nd round potential? It's not like there is room on the roster for the eleven or so draft picks the Giants will have. Even if Love were to spend his rookie year on PUP/IR, it's not a bad investment as insurance at the position.
I wouldn't suggest it if the Giants only had their normal allotment of picks, but with so many picks in rounds four and five, using one of them on a boom or bust RB seems like a good "portfolio" strategy.
Wayne Gallman is the definition of JAG. I would spend our first 5th round pick or one of our 4ths on Love in a nanosecond. Unless there was a steal of a player on our long needs list a available at that slot.
I don't see Bryce Love being a better RB in the NFL than Gallman.
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This will likely bump him in to the round 5-6 area. A. back that is so reliant on sublet movement like Love, this is a big deal. ACL injuries are not what they used to be, but it is still a glaring negative.
Was your double-negative intentional there? I thought Love had a fabulous year as a cover guy and was first round material. What say you?
Cover guy?
He brought this on himself because he is a brilliant kid who valued getting his degree from one of the best schools in the entire country?
What an asinine comment. I don't think you have any clue what greedy means, either.
One of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on this message board and that's saying a lot. Only someone on this board could equate a brilliant student valuing his degree from Stanford over guaranteed money as being greedy. Holy toledo.
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I'd use one of our fourths on him. I feel bad in some ways, but the kid brought this on himself. How hard is it to just take the money. Got too greedy.
He brought this on himself because he is a brilliant kid who valued getting his degree from one of the best schools in the entire country?
What an asinine comment. I don't think you have any clue what greedy means, either.
One of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on this message board and that's saying a lot. Only someone on this board could equate a brilliant student valuing his degree from Stanford over guaranteed money as being greedy. Holy toledo.
I thought he went back to get a higher draft slot. I didn't know he went back for his degree. Calm down, shitstain.
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This will likely bump him in to the round 5-6 area. A. back that is so reliant on sublet movement like Love, this is a big deal. ACL injuries are not what they used to be, but it is still a glaring negative.
Was your double-negative intentional there? I thought Love had a fabulous year as a cover guy and was first round material. What say you?
Cover guy?
Mistakenly referring to Julian Love the CB from Notre Dame I suspect. A bunch of love in this year’s draft.
Yes, my comment was about guys not wanting to risk injuries like this late in the season not that he injured his ACL in the bowl game.
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probably a 5th rounder now, maybe a 4th.
I don't think we are going to be in the RB market with picks in those rounds, so it's a non-issue as far as the Giants are concerned, I think.
With five or six picks projected for rounds four and five, why shouldn't the Giants use one on a RB with 1st/2nd round potential? It's not like there is room on the roster for the eleven or so draft picks the Giants will have. Even if Love were to spend his rookie year on PUP/IR, it's not a bad investment as insurance at the position.
I wouldn't suggest it if the Giants only had their normal allotment of picks, but with so many picks in rounds four and five, using one of them on a boom or bust RB seems like a good "portfolio" strategy.
While you are right that it may be difficult for 11 picks to make the team, that problem usually takes care of itself in camp and preseason. I believe that Love will not make it to the 6th round. And even though the Giants have a lot of picks, the goal, at least in my estimation, is to fill the roster with talented players, preferably at positions of need. Because of Barkley's and Gallman's presence, the Giants are just fine going with UDFA at the position, something the Eagles have done well with in recent seasons.
In the 5th round, I believe the Giants have so many needs, that you have to give yourself as many chances as possible with your draft picks to fill them. I'm always a proponent for BPA, but let's face it, in the 5th round you have a lot of players with the same grade. The Giants need starters and role players to contribute and early.
Drafting another RB who will not play, and really would barely play when healthy, with a mid-round pick... it's a luxury this particular team cannot afford.
The Giants need a huge influx of talent on defense, and really at every single position, because even the positions that are pretty set, such as NT with BJ Hill, the Giants are in need of depth.
That's to say nothing of the OL and at QB.
If Love were still on the board in the 7th, sure, why not? But that just won't happen.
A 5th round pick is too early for a player who will be a career backup to Barkley.
I hate to say it but it really is a prudent and wise move - especially if you are a projected first round pick.
Either that or take out a 10 million $ insurance policy for the game (if you can find an underwriter?).
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This will likely bump him in to the round 5-6 area. A. back that is so reliant on sublet movement like Love, this is a big deal. ACL injuries are not what they used to be, but it is still a glaring negative.
Was your double-negative intentional there? I thought Love had a fabulous year as a cover guy and was first round material. What say you?
Cover guy?
Yeah, you know, Bryce Love. The corner for Notre Dame. ; )
I totally screwed up. I thought this was about Julian Love. He got a concussion in the Cotton Bowl against Clemson. And I thought this was more bad news for him from that game.
In other words, I have a reading comprehension issue. ; )
players or use them to move up to get someone you like .
There are a bucket full of FA RB,s each year for backup
reasons .
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Wayne Gallman is the definition of JAG. I would spend our first 5th round pick or one of our 4ths on Love in a nanosecond.
I like Gallman a lot. But Love would add another dimension (4.35 speed!) and another quality player at a position with high attrition.
Barkley already brings speed!!!!! He ran 4.40 at the combine but at Penn State he was as low as 4.35 and he does that at 235lbs unlike Love at 190lb.
EA "Love brings a dimension to the game that Gallman doesn't have."