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NFT: Knicks Chat: Beck "rumors" Porzingis is unhappy again

DanMetroMan : 1/11/2019 3:04 pm
Beck apparently said on his podcast he's "heard" KP is unhappy with the Knicks plan to have him miss the entire season.
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I don't see any real harm  
bceagle05 : 1/11/2019 4:00 pm : link
in throwing him out there in a few games, if it's so important to him. The Porzingis brothers all seem like royal pains in the ass though. He'd be wise to include one non-family member in his inner circle.
I can understand if KP being unhappy missing the season  
GeofromNJ : 1/11/2019 4:17 pm : link
The guy must be bored out of his skull by now. But it could be that Fiz thinks that having KP play will hamper the development of Knox who plays the same position. It could also mean that Fiz wants KP to play center rather than PF and he figures that he will need time to work on that position (just a guess on my part).
We'll fix his ass  
ghost718 : 1/11/2019 4:20 pm : link
We've got a Channing Frye deal ready to go
RE: I can understand if KP being unhappy missing the season  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2019 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14258816 GeofromNJ said:
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The guy must be bored out of his skull by now. But it could be that Fiz thinks that having KP play will hamper the development of Knox who plays the same position. It could also mean that Fiz wants KP to play center rather than PF and he figures that he will need time to work on that position (just a guess on my part).


Knox and kp do not play the same position, knox will be a 3, kp is a 4/5
Call Boston  
GMEN46 : 1/11/2019 4:46 pm : link
Offer Zinger and Lee for Jaylen brown, sac pick and Memphis pick. In the offseason offer New Orleans, hardaway, Frank and 3 first rounders including 2 lottery picks for Anthony Davis. Sign Durant and Bledsoe and go win a championship:

Bledsoe
Brown
Knox
Durant
Davis

Mudiay
Vonleh
Dotson
Robinson
Mid level
Vets and second rounders
maybe we could  
lightemup : 1/11/2019 5:08 pm : link
have dolan make a deal with the NCAA and have porzingis rehab with Duke. He"ll be able to rehab and get some experience with his future teammate. Killing 2 birds with one stone
That's brilliant  
Greg from LI : 1/11/2019 5:13 pm : link
It's a Swiss fuckin' watch if I understand your plan correctly.
This is not a problem  
PaulN : 1/11/2019 5:19 pm : link
If the fucking guy said, wow, this is great, then you have a problem, a player wanting to play and not wait an entire year, at his age, is normal and should be looked at as a good thing. It is not up to him to be smart about this, it is up to the organization to be the smart ones, I am certain his doctors told him it would be okay, so this can not be easy for him, think about his age for a second and tell me what normal kid his age would be happy, a fucking dud may be happy, not a great athlete.
RE: RE: I can understand if KP being unhappy missing the season  
GeofromNJ : 1/11/2019 5:25 pm : link
In comment 14258830 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14258816 GeofromNJ said:


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The guy must be bored out of his skull by now. But it could be that Fiz thinks that having KP play will hamper the development of Knox who plays the same position. It could also mean that Fiz wants KP to play center rather than PF and he figures that he will need time to work on that position (just a guess on my part).



Knox and kp do not play the same position, knox will be a 3, kp is a 4/5

Knox is listed as a power forward. In the future, he may be a 3, but he is currently a 4.
Porzingas should come back and play a few games  
Vanzetti : 1/11/2019 6:24 pm : link
Show potential free agents he is healthy

He is going to be rusty as hell, so I doubt Knicks win any more games
RE: RE: RE: I can understand if KP being unhappy missing the season  
Strahan91 : 1/11/2019 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14258913 GeofromNJ said:
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In comment 14258830 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 14258816 GeofromNJ said:


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The guy must be bored out of his skull by now. But it could be that Fiz thinks that having KP play will hamper the development of Knox who plays the same position. It could also mean that Fiz wants KP to play center rather than PF and he figures that he will need time to work on that position (just a guess on my part).



Knox and kp do not play the same position, knox will be a 3, kp is a 4/5


Knox is listed as a power forward. In the future, he may be a 3, but he is currently a 4.

He starts at the 3 though. Not that it matters anyways given the way Fizdale coaches.
Sixers reportedly interested in Vonleh  
adamg : 1/11/2019 7:20 pm : link
per SixersWire/USAToday on twitter...
In what universe is Knox currently a 4?  
adamg : 1/11/2019 7:34 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: I can understand if KP being unhappy missing the season  
nygiants16 : 1/11/2019 7:54 pm : link
In comment 14258913 GeofromNJ said:
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In comment 14258816 GeofromNJ said:


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The guy must be bored out of his skull by now. But it could be that Fiz thinks that having KP play will hamper the development of Knox who plays the same position. It could also mean that Fiz wants KP to play center rather than PF and he figures that he will need time to work on that position (just a guess on my part).



Knox and kp do not play the same position, knox will be a 3, kp is a 4/5


Knox is listed as a power forward. In the future, he may be a 3, but he is currently a 4.


no he isnt, he barely plays the 4 forget starting, he barely plays the 4...

what are you talking about?
RE: Call Boston  
djm : 1/13/2019 10:42 am : link
In comment 14258865 GMEN46 said:
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Offer Zinger and Lee for Jaylen brown, sac pick and Memphis pick. In the offseason offer New Orleans, hardaway, Frank and 3 first rounders including 2 lottery picks for Anthony Davis. Sign Durant and Bledsoe and go win a championship:

Bledsoe
Brown
Knox
Durant
Davis

Mudiay
Vonleh
Dotson
Robinson
Mid level
Vets and second rounders


Stop
RE: Call Boston  
Ssanders9816 : 1/13/2019 10:47 am : link
In comment 14258865 GMEN46 said:
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Offer Zinger and Lee for Jaylen brown, sac pick and Memphis pick. In the offseason offer New Orleans, hardaway, Frank and 3 first rounders including 2 lottery picks for Anthony Davis. Sign Durant and Bledsoe and go win a championship:

Bledsoe
Brown
Knox
Durant
Davis

Mudiay
Vonleh
Dotson
Robinson
Mid level
Vets and second rounders


Thatís cute, now wake up.
Seems  
Jon in NYC : 1/13/2019 12:51 pm : link
like not all is well in Celticsville.

Kyrie seems upset, Hayward is a shell of himself, and Horford is washed.

Maybe Kyrie staying isn't as much of a lock as we thought it was.
RE: Seems  
Strahan91 : 1/13/2019 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14260785 Jon in NYC said:
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like not all is well in Celticsville.

Kyrie seems upset, Hayward is a shell of himself, and Horford is washed.

Maybe Kyrie staying isn't as much of a lock as we thought it was.

I think Kyrie leaves. He seems unhappy, plus do they even want to pay him all that money?
...  
Jon in NYC : 1/13/2019 12:59 pm : link
Kryie - Greg From LI - Zion - Knox - KP

Wow, what an end game lineup.
RE: Sixers reportedly interested in Vonleh  
Enzo : 1/13/2019 1:11 pm : link
In comment 14258993 adamg said:
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per SixersWire/USAToday on twitter...

maybe there's a trade out there where a team is willing to take on Hardaway or Lee if we include Vonleh. I would like to re-sign Vonleh if the money is right, but it really doesn't make much difference if he's our free agent or another team's free agent cap wise.
I  
DanMetroMan : 1/13/2019 1:43 pm : link
want Korkmaz. Thanks.
this team is a walking calamity  
ghost718 : 1/13/2019 2:04 pm : link
.
Getting destroyed again.  
bceagle05 : 1/13/2019 2:06 pm : link
On our way to 10-33.
RE: Getting destroyed again.  
adamg : 1/13/2019 2:11 pm : link
In comment 14260967 bceagle05 said:
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On our way to 10-33.


Tank baby!
Within eight now.  
bceagle05 : 1/13/2019 2:36 pm : link
Knox looks great.
The main reason I want Zion  
bceagle05 : 1/13/2019 2:54 pm : link
is so he can kick Embiid's ass for the next decade. What a punk.
Frank doing some good things during that run  
adamg : 1/13/2019 3:22 pm : link
Knox with a career high 28 points
RE: RE: Sixers reportedly interested in Vonleh  
adamg : 1/13/2019 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14260811 Enzo said:
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per SixersWire/USAToday on twitter...


maybe there's a trade out there where a team is willing to take on Hardaway or Lee if we include Vonleh. I would like to re-sign Vonleh if the money is right, but it really doesn't make much difference if he's our free agent or another team's free agent cap wise.


I posted the same thought in the game thread yesterday.

Even if it costs a 2nd too. Vonleh and a 2nd to get rid of Hardaway would be awesome by me.
Knox with the Harden step-back/travel for three.  
bceagle05 : 1/13/2019 3:33 pm : link
Now 31 points.
Knox with 31  
adamg : 1/13/2019 3:33 pm : link
First thirty point game
Chandler and Muscala  
adamg : 1/13/2019 3:35 pm : link
for Vonleh and Hardaway.

Any chance the Sixers go for that? How many picks would it take to sweeten that deal?
RE: Chandler and Muscala  
Enzo : 1/13/2019 5:32 pm : link
In comment 14261154 adamg said:
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for Vonleh and Hardaway.

Any chance the Sixers go for that? How many picks would it take to sweeten that deal?

I don't think any team is willing to be on the hook for 2/38 for Hardaway going forward, unless it's a poorly managed team.
Great game by knox...  
Italianju : 1/13/2019 5:55 pm : link
he still needs to be more aggressive getting the ball. Too many possessions he just stands on the side. Still not sure if that is on him or the offense. I mean he took 22 shots today, but it just seems so often he doesnt touch the ball for stretches.

The tank is strong!
RE: Great game by knox...  
Enzo : 1/13/2019 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14261656 Italianju said:
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he still needs to be more aggressive getting the ball. Too many possessions he just stands on the side. Still not sure if that is on him or the offense. I mean he took 22 shots today, but it just seems so often he doesnt touch the ball for stretches.

The tank is strong!

could be because Mudiay is in "get mine" mode.
RE: RE: Chandler and Muscala  
adamg : 1/13/2019 6:13 pm : link
In comment 14261560 Enzo said:
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In comment 14261154 adamg said:


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for Vonleh and Hardaway.

Any chance the Sixers go for that? How many picks would it take to sweeten that deal?


I don't think any team is willing to be on the hook for 2/38 for Hardaway going forward, unless it's a poorly managed team.


Even for Vonleh, a top 5 protected 2020 first, and a second?
I'm not doing that deal at the deadline  
Enzo : 1/13/2019 7:53 pm : link
but I'd think about that over the summer if I know I'm getting someone.
Nikola Jokic  
MookGiants : 1/13/2019 10:09 pm : link
is a terrific ballplayer. Very fun to watch. I got NBA league pass this year so I could watch teams that are actually worth watching and not just the Knicks. He's such a treat to watch. 2nd round pick too and a star. Wish the knicks had luck like that.
RE: Nikola Jokic  
Del Shofner : 1/13/2019 10:16 pm : link
In comment 14262290 MookGiants said:
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is a terrific ballplayer. Very fun to watch. I got NBA league pass this year so I could watch teams that are actually worth watching and not just the Knicks. He's such a treat to watch. 2nd round pick too and a star. Wish the knicks had luck like that.


yeah - he's great. His passing is the most amazing part of his game.
KP should want to play this season  
#10* : 1/15/2019 1:01 pm : link
and the Knicks should seriously consider it. Knicks fear it would be a tight run to a top draft pick which they're correct but inpending free agents will want to know that KP is good and how they fit in with him and Knox. I say play him the last three to ten games.
Berman had some draft thoughts from Seth Greenberg today...  
bceagle05 : 1/15/2019 2:33 pm : link
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Speaking of freakish, the runaway hype on Williamson is getting to Greenberg. For a club in desperate need of a point guard such as the Knicks, Morant might turn out to be a sound addition.

Greenberg said of the 6-8 Williamson, ďI donít think heís a no-doubt-about-it.

ďThis is not a good draft. It really isnít. In this draft, you probably do [take Zion No. 1]. Heís fun to watch, explosive and doing things we havenít seen in a long time. But I grew up watching Dr. J. I donít get excited about dunks.Ē

Greenberg listed his Zion concerns, saying, ďWhen does a guy like that not have a pull-up game? And he isnít an NBA 3-point shooter yet.

ď[Zion] has great passion and is Magic [Johnson]-esque in his personality. He competes on the defensive end and rebounds ferociously. But heís not going to walk in and take over. Is [Zion] going to fix the Knicks? I donít think so. Is he going to even do what Luca Doncic has done? I donít know.Ē

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Do the Knicks have the cap space already to sign a max contract?  
adamg : 1/15/2019 3:59 pm : link
On top of everyone? Or do we need to deal Lee to get to that space?
RE: Do the Knicks have the cap space already to sign a max contract?  
Heisenberg : 1/15/2019 4:05 pm : link
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On top of everyone? Or do we need to deal Lee to get to that space?


It depends on who it is. Durant can get a higher max than, Kemba, I think - for example. I think for KD, they'd need to move Lee or Hardaway. With Kemba, I think they can do it just by renouncing the FAs (including Zo, now) and waiving Lance.
.  
Anakim : 1/15/2019 4:13 pm : link
Brandon Robinson
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@ScoopB

Dennis Smith Jr. trade rumors: Knicks and Mavs have discussed a Smith Jr. and Wes Matthews swap in exchange for Tim Hardaway, Jr. & Frank Ntilikina.
RE: RE: Do the Knicks have the cap space already to sign a max contract?  
adamg : 1/15/2019 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14264576 Heisenberg said:
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On top of everyone? Or do we need to deal Lee to get to that space?



It depends on who it is. Durant can get a higher max than, Kemba, I think - for example. I think for KD, they'd need to move Lee or Hardaway. With Kemba, I think they can do it just by renouncing the FAs (including Zo, now) and waiving Lance.


And Hardaway likely costs draft picks (and more than a first rounder), which they aren't going to want to give up. So Lee is the weakest link who they'll try to move then, right?

So, they'll likely just wait to see if they can move Lee for nothing and worst case attach a second or two if they have to?
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shockeyisthebest8056 : 1/15/2019 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14264583 Anakim said:
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Brandon Robinson
‏Verified account
@ScoopB

Dennis Smith Jr. trade rumors: Knicks and Mavs have discussed a Smith Jr. and Wes Matthews swap in exchange for Tim Hardaway, Jr. & Frank Ntilikina.


Don't you have to say yes in 2 seconds just to get THJ's contract out of town?
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adamg : 1/15/2019 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14264583 Anakim said:
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Brandon Robinson
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@ScoopB

Dennis Smith Jr. trade rumors: Knicks and Mavs have discussed a Smith Jr. and Wes Matthews swap in exchange for Tim Hardaway, Jr. & Frank Ntilikina.


I really don't want to give up Frank.

What's the deal with Dennis Smith?
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Strahan91 : 1/15/2019 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14264583 Anakim said:
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Brandon Robinson
‏Verified account
@ScoopB

Dennis Smith Jr. trade rumors: Knicks and Mavs have discussed a Smith Jr. and Wes Matthews swap in exchange for Tim Hardaway, Jr. & Frank Ntilikina.

I have a hard time believing that this wouldn't cost a future protected first or a couple of seconds. Matthews is prob nearly as good if not better than THJ and is an expiring.
Don't  
DanMetroMan : 1/15/2019 4:23 pm : link
know this guy from a hole in the wall but people all over his feed call him out for always being wrong so...
I canít wait for the 7th to come and go  
Carl in CT : 1/15/2019 4:25 pm : link
We are on the right path. Other than shedding salary we really shouldnít do nothing yet.
I am no expert...  
manh george : 1/15/2019 6:04 pm : link
but from what I read and hear, this is a very thin draft, with a potentially big talent gap after Zion, Barrett and Morant. If true, I wouldn't want KP winning us a few extra games that take us to 4th or 5th. From recent articles on Morant, interest in Kyrie could fade a bit if the Knicks were to get him. (link)
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