understand both sides. Guy wants to play, team wants their franchise player to be healthy and also wants to tank. I don't think either side is wrong.
I understand too, and actually think he has a fair point. But no reason for him to be griping to people about it.
But IMO they should consider letting him.
I can see where after going through grueling rehab and having that worry and uncertainty in your head until you "test" it in a real game you wouldn't want to be forced to wait the entire off season to do so. If he's physically ready the Knicks could let him come back for very limited minutes just for him to get that behind him.
you read Beer's piece from yesterday it would be "impossible" barring KP/Janss to be out of their minds for KP to not sign an extension with the Knicks in the off-season. Potentially one of those "worst decisions in sports history" type bad. I thought Spree turning down 21 million from 36-38 and then trashing the Wolves owner was bad... this would be worse. I'm not concerned.
than being mediocre tabloid fodder, what does him being a "pain in the ass" do exactly? Again, barring him being out of his fucking mind he's going to be a Knick long term.
than being mediocre tabloid fodder, what does him being a "pain in the ass" do exactly? Again, barring him being out of his fucking mind he's going to be a Knick long term.
I just do not know why he is worried about this, i get he wants to play but the best thing for his future and knicks future is to sit...
i feel like the media in new york are upset this tank is actually going pretty decently that they're doing anything to stir up controversy.
the knox/ntilikina bum story, kanter being unhappy, kp unhappy and other teams being interested in him, the dolan selling the team quote. in a couple weeks we'll hear something else.
than being mediocre tabloid fodder, what does him being a "pain in the ass" do exactly? Again, barring him being out of his fucking mind he's going to be a Knick long term.
I just do not know why he is worried about this, i get he wants to play but the best thing for his future and knicks future is to sit...
Why is he "upset" abiut this?
In fairness we don't know what's going on behind the scenes rehab wise. Maybe he wants to do XYZ physically and they are saying "okay in 2 weeks we can begin that" etc. Rehab isn't fun.
trying to figure out if the Snacks trade was worth it.
I'll bet you're one of those guys who simultaneously thinks a)the Giants were THIS close to winning a bunch of those games and making the playoffs and b)that they didn't was the defense's fault.
i feel like the media in new york are upset this tank is actually going pretty decently that they're doing anything to stir up controversy.
the knox/ntilikina bum story, kanter being unhappy, kp unhappy and other teams being interested in him, the dolan selling the team quote. in a couple weeks we'll hear something else.
Thing is... Beck isn't a shit stirrer generally so it's a bit different than Bondy or Isola.
playing with Zion next semester. The constant mood thermometers on players is silly. Half a year ago, we thought Paul George was a cinch to be a Laker.
than being mediocre tabloid fodder, what does him being a "pain in the ass" do exactly? Again, barring him being out of his fucking mind he's going to be a Knick long term.
I just do not know why he is worried about this, i get he wants to play but the best thing for his future and knicks future is to sit...
Why is he "upset" abiut this?
In fairness we don't know what's going on behind the scenes rehab wise. Maybe he wants to do XYZ physically and they are saying "okay in 2 weeks we can begin that" etc. Rehab isn't fun.
i agree, and i get he is frustrated he is not playing but to be upset at the organization would be a little ridiculous if you ask me
than being mediocre tabloid fodder, what does him being a "pain in the ass" do exactly? Again, barring him being out of his fucking mind he's going to be a Knick long term.
I just do not know why he is worried about this, i get he wants to play but the best thing for his future and knicks future is to sit...
Why is he "upset" abiut this?
Rehabbing from this injury is a long, hard, lonely grind. Then they are left with nervous apprehension about what their knee will do when really finally tested in a real game situation. I have heard players that went through this say that they wouldn't want to have to wait an entire second season to get it behind them.
He isn't stupid, he knows they are hoping for the highest pick. But that doesn't change the fact he is going through something dramatic on a personal level and when physically ready wants to get that first game back and over with and behind him.
If he is physically ready they should let him come back sparingly with very limited minutes if that is what he wants.
It's pretty easy to believe that he's not happy with the plan. He's
been healing and rehabbing for nearly a year. Waiting until next year means he won't play another meaningful game for like 9-10 more months. Probably feels like he's near the end of his rehab and to have the light at the end of the tunnel snuffed out would be hard to take.
than being mediocre tabloid fodder, what does him being a "pain in the ass" do exactly? Again, barring him being out of his fucking mind he's going to be a Knick long term.
I just do not know why he is worried about this, i get he wants to play but the best thing for his future and knicks future is to sit...
Why is he "upset" abiut this?
Rehabbing from this injury is a long, hard, lonely grind. Then they are left with nervous apprehension about what their knee will do when really finally tested in a real game situation. I have heard players that went through this say that they wouldn't want to have to wait an entire second season to get it behind them.
He isn't stupid, he knows they are hoping for the highest pick. But that doesn't change the fact he is going through something dramatic on a personal level and when physically ready wants to get that first game back and over with and behind him.
If he is physically ready they should let him come back sparingly with very limited minutes if that is what he wants.
steve i get that, and i would not blame him if he was frustrated, i just dont get the being upset with the knicks...
(a) has it been definitely reported that the Knicks' plan is that KP doesn't play this year and (b) if so, did the Knicks say why? I thought KP was going to be ready in March.
Well, why wouldn't he be annoyed by the Knicks in that case?
than being mediocre tabloid fodder, what does him being a "pain in the ass" do exactly? Again, barring him being out of his fucking mind he's going to be a Knick long term.
I just do not know why he is worried about this, i get he wants to play but the best thing for his future and knicks future is to sit...
Why is he "upset" abiut this?
Rehabbing from this injury is a long, hard, lonely grind. Then they are left with nervous apprehension about what their knee will do when really finally tested in a real game situation. I have heard players that went through this say that they wouldn't want to have to wait an entire second season to get it behind them.
He isn't stupid, he knows they are hoping for the highest pick. But that doesn't change the fact he is going through something dramatic on a personal level and when physically ready wants to get that first game back and over with and behind him.
If he is physically ready they should let him come back sparingly with very limited minutes if that is what he wants.
steve i get that, and i would not blame him if he was frustrated, i just dont get the being upset with the knicks...
They have kissed his ass every chance he gets...
Well if you get that and they are planning to deny him that opportunity then you should get why he he is upset with them.
Just saying why I understand why on a personal level that wouldn't matter to him as much as his being able to get that first game back behind him this season and not be forced to have to wait another one. For me it's not that hard to understand. Nobody is really wrong but surely you can empathize with how he might feel.
in throwing him out there in a few games, if it's so important to him. The Porzingis brothers all seem like royal pains in the ass though. He'd be wise to include one non-family member in his inner circle.
I can understand if KP being unhappy missing the season
The guy must be bored out of his skull by now. But it could be that Fiz thinks that having KP play will hamper the development of Knox who plays the same position. It could also mean that Fiz wants KP to play center rather than PF and he figures that he will need time to work on that position (just a guess on my part).
The guy must be bored out of his skull by now. But it could be that Fiz thinks that having KP play will hamper the development of Knox who plays the same position. It could also mean that Fiz wants KP to play center rather than PF and he figures that he will need time to work on that position (just a guess on my part).
Knox and kp do not play the same position, knox will be a 3, kp is a 4/5
Offer Zinger and Lee for Jaylen brown, sac pick and Memphis pick. In the offseason offer New Orleans, hardaway, Frank and 3 first rounders including 2 lottery picks for Anthony Davis. Sign Durant and Bledsoe and go win a championship:
Bledsoe
Brown
Knox
Durant
Davis
Mudiay
Vonleh
Dotson
Robinson
Mid level
Vets and second rounders
have dolan make a deal with the NCAA and have porzingis rehab with Duke. He"ll be able to rehab and get some experience with his future teammate. Killing 2 birds with one stone
If the fucking guy said, wow, this is great, then you have a problem, a player wanting to play and not wait an entire year, at his age, is normal and should be looked at as a good thing. It is not up to him to be smart about this, it is up to the organization to be the smart ones, I am certain his doctors told him it would be okay, so this can not be easy for him, think about his age for a second and tell me what normal kid his age would be happy, a fucking dud may be happy, not a great athlete.
RE: RE: I can understand if KP being unhappy missing the season
The guy must be bored out of his skull by now. But it could be that Fiz thinks that having KP play will hamper the development of Knox who plays the same position. It could also mean that Fiz wants KP to play center rather than PF and he figures that he will need time to work on that position (just a guess on my part).
Knox and kp do not play the same position, knox will be a 3, kp is a 4/5
Knox is listed as a power forward. In the future, he may be a 3, but he is currently a 4.
The guy must be bored out of his skull by now. But it could be that Fiz thinks that having KP play will hamper the development of Knox who plays the same position. It could also mean that Fiz wants KP to play center rather than PF and he figures that he will need time to work on that position (just a guess on my part).
Knox and kp do not play the same position, knox will be a 3, kp is a 4/5
Knox is listed as a power forward. In the future, he may be a 3, but he is currently a 4.
He starts at the 3 though. Not that it matters anyways given the way Fizdale coaches.
The guy must be bored out of his skull by now. But it could be that Fiz thinks that having KP play will hamper the development of Knox who plays the same position. It could also mean that Fiz wants KP to play center rather than PF and he figures that he will need time to work on that position (just a guess on my part).
Knox and kp do not play the same position, knox will be a 3, kp is a 4/5
Knox is listed as a power forward. In the future, he may be a 3, but he is currently a 4.
no he isnt, he barely plays the 4 forget starting, he barely plays the 4...
Offer Zinger and Lee for Jaylen brown, sac pick and Memphis pick. In the offseason offer New Orleans, hardaway, Frank and 3 first rounders including 2 lottery picks for Anthony Davis. Sign Durant and Bledsoe and go win a championship:
Bledsoe
Brown
Knox
Durant
Davis
Mudiay
Vonleh
Dotson
Robinson
Mid level
Vets and second rounders
Offer Zinger and Lee for Jaylen brown, sac pick and Memphis pick. In the offseason offer New Orleans, hardaway, Frank and 3 first rounders including 2 lottery picks for Anthony Davis. Sign Durant and Bledsoe and go win a championship:
Bledsoe
Brown
Knox
Durant
Davis
Mudiay
Vonleh
Dotson
Robinson
Mid level
Vets and second rounders
maybe there's a trade out there where a team is willing to take on Hardaway or Lee if we include Vonleh. I would like to re-sign Vonleh if the money is right, but it really doesn't make much difference if he's our free agent or another team's free agent cap wise.
maybe there's a trade out there where a team is willing to take on Hardaway or Lee if we include Vonleh. I would like to re-sign Vonleh if the money is right, but it really doesn't make much difference if he's our free agent or another team's free agent cap wise.
I posted the same thought in the game thread yesterday.
Even if it costs a 2nd too. Vonleh and a 2nd to get rid of Hardaway would be awesome by me.
he still needs to be more aggressive getting the ball. Too many possessions he just stands on the side. Still not sure if that is on him or the offense. I mean he took 22 shots today, but it just seems so often he doesnt touch the ball for stretches.
he still needs to be more aggressive getting the ball. Too many possessions he just stands on the side. Still not sure if that is on him or the offense. I mean he took 22 shots today, but it just seems so often he doesnt touch the ball for stretches.
is a terrific ballplayer. Very fun to watch. I got NBA league pass this year so I could watch teams that are actually worth watching and not just the Knicks. He's such a treat to watch. 2nd round pick too and a star. Wish the knicks had luck like that.
is a terrific ballplayer. Very fun to watch. I got NBA league pass this year so I could watch teams that are actually worth watching and not just the Knicks. He's such a treat to watch. 2nd round pick too and a star. Wish the knicks had luck like that.
yeah - he's great. His passing is the most amazing part of his game.
and the Knicks should seriously consider it. Knicks fear it would be a tight run to a top draft pick which they're correct but inpending free agents will want to know that KP is good and how they fit in with him and Knox. I say play him the last three to ten games.
Berman had some draft thoughts from Seth Greenberg today...
Speaking of freakish, the runaway hype on Williamson is getting to Greenberg. For a club in desperate need of a point guard such as the Knicks, Morant might turn out to be a sound addition.
Greenberg said of the 6-8 Williamson, I dont think hes a no-doubt-about-it.
This is not a good draft. It really isnt. In this draft, you probably do [take Zion No. 1]. Hes fun to watch, explosive and doing things we havent seen in a long time. But I grew up watching Dr. J. I dont get excited about dunks.
Greenberg listed his Zion concerns, saying, When does a guy like that not have a pull-up game? And he isnt an NBA 3-point shooter yet.
[Zion] has great passion and is Magic [Johnson]-esque in his personality. He competes on the defensive end and rebounds ferociously. But hes not going to walk in and take over. Is [Zion] going to fix the Knicks? I dont think so. Is he going to even do what Luca Doncic has done? I dont know.
On top of everyone? Or do we need to deal Lee to get to that space?
It depends on who it is. Durant can get a higher max than, Kemba, I think - for example. I think for KD, they'd need to move Lee or Hardaway. With Kemba, I think they can do it just by renouncing the FAs (including Zo, now) and waiving Lance.
On top of everyone? Or do we need to deal Lee to get to that space?
It depends on who it is. Durant can get a higher max than, Kemba, I think - for example. I think for KD, they'd need to move Lee or Hardaway. With Kemba, I think they can do it just by renouncing the FAs (including Zo, now) and waiving Lance.
And Hardaway likely costs draft picks (and more than a first rounder), which they aren't going to want to give up. So Lee is the weakest link who they'll try to move then, right?
So, they'll likely just wait to see if they can move Lee for nothing and worst case attach a second or two if they have to?
Dennis Smith Jr. trade rumors: Knicks and Mavs have discussed a Smith Jr. and Wes Matthews swap in exchange for Tim Hardaway, Jr. & Frank Ntilikina.
I have a hard time believing that this wouldn't cost a future protected first or a couple of seconds. Matthews is prob nearly as good if not better than THJ and is an expiring.
but from what I read and hear, this is a very thin draft, with a potentially big talent gap after Zion, Barrett and Morant. If true, I wouldn't want KP winning us a few extra games that take us to 4th or 5th. From recent articles on Morant, interest in Kyrie could fade a bit if the Knicks were to get him. (link) Link - ( New Window )
If so, someone should talk to him, in a very no-nonsense manner.
Jackson wasn't exactly a great example for him...
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he seemed to have a great attitude and always impressed how mature he sounded. What happened to that guy?
Jackson wasn't exactly a great example for him...
Nor was Melo, really...nor was Joakim Noah...nor was Derrick Rose
(b) which most likely would take them a handful of slots down in the draft,
(c) and while there's really no great physical upside to him playing actual games, there's a much better chance there's a risk of re-injury.
So, no.
He realized how talented he is and that's he stuck on a poorly run franchise.
I don't think he'd have that big of an impact in our draft slot. We'd limit his minutes, and there'd be rust.
I understand too, and actually think he has a fair point. But no reason for him to be griping to people about it.
But IMO they should consider letting him.
I can see where after going through grueling rehab and having that worry and uncertainty in your head until you "test" it in a real game you wouldn't want to be forced to wait the entire off season to do so. If he's physically ready the Knicks could let him come back for very limited minutes just for him to get that behind him.
Too bad Phil couldn't get a home run deal for him when he made him available on his way out.
Too bad Phil couldn't get a home run deal for him when he made him available on his way out.
I give you credit for being a model of consistency - your basketball opinions are just as worthless as your football opinions.
It was reported the other day that this is their plan.
I just do not know why he is worried about this, i get he wants to play but the best thing for his future and knicks future is to sit...
Why is he "upset" abiut this?
the knox/ntilikina bum story, kanter being unhappy, kp unhappy and other teams being interested in him, the dolan selling the team quote. in a couple weeks we'll hear something else.
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than being mediocre tabloid fodder, what does him being a "pain in the ass" do exactly? Again, barring him being out of his fucking mind he's going to be a Knick long term.
I just do not know why he is worried about this, i get he wants to play but the best thing for his future and knicks future is to sit...
Why is he "upset" abiut this?
In fairness we don't know what's going on behind the scenes rehab wise. Maybe he wants to do XYZ physically and they are saying "okay in 2 weeks we can begin that" etc. Rehab isn't fun.
I'll bet you're one of those guys who simultaneously thinks a)the Giants were THIS close to winning a bunch of those games and making the playoffs and b)that they didn't was the defense's fault.
makes sense to me.
the knox/ntilikina bum story, kanter being unhappy, kp unhappy and other teams being interested in him, the dolan selling the team quote. in a couple weeks we'll hear something else.
Thing is... Beck isn't a shit stirrer generally so it's a bit different than Bondy or Isola.
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than being mediocre tabloid fodder, what does him being a "pain in the ass" do exactly? Again, barring him being out of his fucking mind he's going to be a Knick long term.
I just do not know why he is worried about this, i get he wants to play but the best thing for his future and knicks future is to sit...
Why is he "upset" abiut this?
In fairness we don't know what's going on behind the scenes rehab wise. Maybe he wants to do XYZ physically and they are saying "okay in 2 weeks we can begin that" etc. Rehab isn't fun.
i agree, and i get he is frustrated he is not playing but to be upset at the organization would be a little ridiculous if you ask me
makes sense to me.
He was on those Knick teams with Melo that hovered around .500 before nosediving in the second half so he knows what he's missing :)
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than being mediocre tabloid fodder, what does him being a "pain in the ass" do exactly? Again, barring him being out of his fucking mind he's going to be a Knick long term.
I just do not know why he is worried about this, i get he wants to play but the best thing for his future and knicks future is to sit...
Why is he "upset" abiut this?
Rehabbing from this injury is a long, hard, lonely grind. Then they are left with nervous apprehension about what their knee will do when really finally tested in a real game situation. I have heard players that went through this say that they wouldn't want to have to wait an entire second season to get it behind them.
He isn't stupid, he knows they are hoping for the highest pick. But that doesn't change the fact he is going through something dramatic on a personal level and when physically ready wants to get that first game back and over with and behind him.
If he is physically ready they should let him come back sparingly with very limited minutes if that is what he wants.
On top of being a giant douche bag who ought to be bitch slapped, what do you bring to the table other than the following?
Crying about the Yankee strike zone
Mindless rants about Virginia Tech
Phil Simms nostalgia
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than being mediocre tabloid fodder, what does him being a "pain in the ass" do exactly? Again, barring him being out of his fucking mind he's going to be a Knick long term.
I just do not know why he is worried about this, i get he wants to play but the best thing for his future and knicks future is to sit...
Why is he "upset" abiut this?
Rehabbing from this injury is a long, hard, lonely grind. Then they are left with nervous apprehension about what their knee will do when really finally tested in a real game situation. I have heard players that went through this say that they wouldn't want to have to wait an entire second season to get it behind them.
He isn't stupid, he knows they are hoping for the highest pick. But that doesn't change the fact he is going through something dramatic on a personal level and when physically ready wants to get that first game back and over with and behind him.
If he is physically ready they should let him come back sparingly with very limited minutes if that is what he wants.
steve i get that, and i would not blame him if he was frustrated, i just dont get the being upset with the knicks...
They have kissed his ass every chance he gets...
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than being mediocre tabloid fodder, what does him being a "pain in the ass" do exactly? Again, barring him being out of his fucking mind he's going to be a Knick long term.
I just do not know why he is worried about this, i get he wants to play but the best thing for his future and knicks future is to sit...
Why is he "upset" abiut this?
Rehabbing from this injury is a long, hard, lonely grind. Then they are left with nervous apprehension about what their knee will do when really finally tested in a real game situation. I have heard players that went through this say that they wouldn't want to have to wait an entire second season to get it behind them.
He isn't stupid, he knows they are hoping for the highest pick. But that doesn't change the fact he is going through something dramatic on a personal level and when physically ready wants to get that first game back and over with and behind him.
If he is physically ready they should let him come back sparingly with very limited minutes if that is what he wants.
steve i get that, and i would not blame him if he was frustrated, i just dont get the being upset with the knicks...
They have kissed his ass every chance he gets...
Well if you get that and they are planning to deny him that opportunity then you should get why he he is upset with them.
Opps hit submit by mistake on that one
and not for nothing why should he want to play? he gets hurt again he is not getting paid
Knox and kp do not play the same position, knox will be a 3, kp is a 4/5
Bledsoe
Brown
Knox
Durant
Davis
Mudiay
Vonleh
Dotson
Robinson
Mid level
Vets and second rounders
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The guy must be bored out of his skull by now. But it could be that Fiz thinks that having KP play will hamper the development of Knox who plays the same position. It could also mean that Fiz wants KP to play center rather than PF and he figures that he will need time to work on that position (just a guess on my part).
Knox and kp do not play the same position, knox will be a 3, kp is a 4/5
Knox is listed as a power forward. In the future, he may be a 3, but he is currently a 4.
He is going to be rusty as hell, so I doubt Knicks win any more games
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The guy must be bored out of his skull by now. But it could be that Fiz thinks that having KP play will hamper the development of Knox who plays the same position. It could also mean that Fiz wants KP to play center rather than PF and he figures that he will need time to work on that position (just a guess on my part).
Knox and kp do not play the same position, knox will be a 3, kp is a 4/5
Knox is listed as a power forward. In the future, he may be a 3, but he is currently a 4.
He starts at the 3 though. Not that it matters anyways given the way Fizdale coaches.
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The guy must be bored out of his skull by now. But it could be that Fiz thinks that having KP play will hamper the development of Knox who plays the same position. It could also mean that Fiz wants KP to play center rather than PF and he figures that he will need time to work on that position (just a guess on my part).
Knox and kp do not play the same position, knox will be a 3, kp is a 4/5
Knox is listed as a power forward. In the future, he may be a 3, but he is currently a 4.
no he isnt, he barely plays the 4 forget starting, he barely plays the 4...
what are you talking about?
Bledsoe
Brown
Knox
Durant
Davis
Mudiay
Vonleh
Dotson
Robinson
Mid level
Vets and second rounders
Stop
Bledsoe
Brown
Knox
Durant
Davis
Mudiay
Vonleh
Dotson
Robinson
Mid level
Vets and second rounders
Thats cute, now wake up.
Kyrie seems upset, Hayward is a shell of himself, and Horford is washed.
Maybe Kyrie staying isn't as much of a lock as we thought it was.
Kyrie seems upset, Hayward is a shell of himself, and Horford is washed.
Maybe Kyrie staying isn't as much of a lock as we thought it was.
I think Kyrie leaves. He seems unhappy, plus do they even want to pay him all that money?
Wow, what an end game lineup.
maybe there's a trade out there where a team is willing to take on Hardaway or Lee if we include Vonleh. I would like to re-sign Vonleh if the money is right, but it really doesn't make much difference if he's our free agent or another team's free agent cap wise.
Tank baby!
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maybe there's a trade out there where a team is willing to take on Hardaway or Lee if we include Vonleh. I would like to re-sign Vonleh if the money is right, but it really doesn't make much difference if he's our free agent or another team's free agent cap wise.
I posted the same thought in the game thread yesterday.
Even if it costs a 2nd too. Vonleh and a 2nd to get rid of Hardaway would be awesome by me.
Any chance the Sixers go for that? How many picks would it take to sweeten that deal?
Any chance the Sixers go for that? How many picks would it take to sweeten that deal?
I don't think any team is willing to be on the hook for 2/38 for Hardaway going forward, unless it's a poorly managed team.
The tank is strong!
The tank is strong!
could be because Mudiay is in "get mine" mode.
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for Vonleh and Hardaway.
Any chance the Sixers go for that? How many picks would it take to sweeten that deal?
I don't think any team is willing to be on the hook for 2/38 for Hardaway going forward, unless it's a poorly managed team.
Even for Vonleh, a top 5 protected 2020 first, and a second?
yeah - he's great. His passing is the most amazing part of his game.
Greenberg said of the 6-8 Williamson, I dont think hes a no-doubt-about-it.
This is not a good draft. It really isnt. In this draft, you probably do [take Zion No. 1]. Hes fun to watch, explosive and doing things we havent seen in a long time. But I grew up watching Dr. J. I dont get excited about dunks.
Greenberg listed his Zion concerns, saying, When does a guy like that not have a pull-up game? And he isnt an NBA 3-point shooter yet.
[Zion] has great passion and is Magic [Johnson]-esque in his personality. He competes on the defensive end and rebounds ferociously. But hes not going to walk in and take over. Is [Zion] going to fix the Knicks? I dont think so. Is he going to even do what Luca Doncic has done? I dont know.
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It depends on who it is. Durant can get a higher max than, Kemba, I think - for example. I think for KD, they'd need to move Lee or Hardaway. With Kemba, I think they can do it just by renouncing the FAs (including Zo, now) and waiving Lance.
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Dennis Smith Jr. trade rumors: Knicks and Mavs have discussed a Smith Jr. and Wes Matthews swap in exchange for Tim Hardaway, Jr. & Frank Ntilikina.
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On top of everyone? Or do we need to deal Lee to get to that space?
It depends on who it is. Durant can get a higher max than, Kemba, I think - for example. I think for KD, they'd need to move Lee or Hardaway. With Kemba, I think they can do it just by renouncing the FAs (including Zo, now) and waiving Lance.
And Hardaway likely costs draft picks (and more than a first rounder), which they aren't going to want to give up. So Lee is the weakest link who they'll try to move then, right?
So, they'll likely just wait to see if they can move Lee for nothing and worst case attach a second or two if they have to?
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Dennis Smith Jr. trade rumors: Knicks and Mavs have discussed a Smith Jr. and Wes Matthews swap in exchange for Tim Hardaway, Jr. & Frank Ntilikina.
Don't you have to say yes in 2 seconds just to get THJ's contract out of town?
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Dennis Smith Jr. trade rumors: Knicks and Mavs have discussed a Smith Jr. and Wes Matthews swap in exchange for Tim Hardaway, Jr. & Frank Ntilikina.
I really don't want to give up Frank.
What's the deal with Dennis Smith?
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Dennis Smith Jr. trade rumors: Knicks and Mavs have discussed a Smith Jr. and Wes Matthews swap in exchange for Tim Hardaway, Jr. & Frank Ntilikina.
I have a hard time believing that this wouldn't cost a future protected first or a couple of seconds. Matthews is prob nearly as good if not better than THJ and is an expiring.
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