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NFT: Jacob deGrom and the Mets avoid arbitration

Ira : 1/11/2019 6:38 pm
He gets $17 million. Both he and the Mets seem interested in a long term deal.
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Iím ready to get this party started.  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2019 1:11 pm : link
Please injury God be kind to us this year!
And yeah for sure...  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2019 1:13 pm : link
Dowdy isnít making the team if he gets bombed in the spring but gotta figure he has an edge if he pitches reasonably well.
Allen makes a ton of sense  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2019 1:19 pm : link
On a one year deal. The HRís he gave up last year is alarming and he had an awful year but maybe you hope something mechanical was off or he was fighting through an injury... reuniting with Mickey seems like a natural fit and heís still pretty young.
I'd be shocked if they don't go with an 8 man pen  
Eric on Li : 1/12/2019 2:55 pm : link
1. Diaz
2. Familia
3. Lugo
4. Gsellman
5&6. 2 lefties out of Zamora / Avilan / hopefully another vet invite (Blevins)
7. 1 of the AAAA rhp out of Dowdy / Smith / Bashlor / Sewald / Peterson

Which leaves 1 more spot for a veteran - hopefully with late game experience to protect them in case of injury to Diaz / Familia / Lugo. Also giving them the flexibility to start Lugo if necessary.
the current lefty situation is scary  
Eric on Li : 1/12/2019 3:13 pm : link
Zamora is far from a known quantity. Only has 9 innings above AA.
Avilan didn't get a guaranteed deal for a reason.

6th or 7th inning, bases loaded, Freeman, Soto, or Harper (if he goes back to Nats) coming up. A handful of situations like that could be the difference in a few key wins or losses. There's a reason Blevins appeared in 200+ games (going 13-4) between '16-'18. Obviously he sucked last year but it's still a big hole that hasn't been replaced.
They will almost assuredly open with a 5 man bench  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2019 3:50 pm : link
They may go to an 8 man pen once we get into the season a bit but in April there are extra off days so pitchers get extra rest.
Loogys just arenít worth that much..  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2019 3:52 pm : link
In terms of value on a season. Avilan put up good numbers last year and isnít that old. Just because we got a good deal, doesnít mean he sucks. Invite Blevins back and let Santiago and all of them compete in the spring. Diaz, Familia, and Lugo can all get out lefties.
Z  
CMicks3110 : 1/12/2019 3:58 pm : link
do you see any in-season trade targets that you would identify? I could see the Mets, if we're in contention, trying to land a Chris Archer, another CF, or a Bullpen Piece, just curious if you had any names you like.

Also, do you see Frazier being moved? I really don't see a good fit on this roster for him. He's not a bench player.
Frazier and JD Davis  
CMicks3110 : 1/12/2019 3:59 pm : link
are fairly redundant, and then you have Lowrie/McNeil/TJ Rivera who can play third.
I do see Frazier being moved before the season to clear enough $$$  
Ira : 1/12/2019 4:02 pm : link
to re-sign deGrom and Wheeler.
Eric  
XBRONX : 1/12/2019 4:05 pm : link
An eight man pen. Maybe the Mets dont need hitters on the bench or back up fielders.
RE: Z  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2019 4:06 pm : link
In comment 14259610 CMicks3110 said:
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do you see any in-season trade targets that you would identify? I could see the Mets, if we're in contention, trying to land a Chris Archer, another CF, or a Bullpen Piece, just curious if you had any names you like.

Also, do you see Frazier being moved? I really don't see a good fit on this roster for him. He's not a bench player.


My dream would be to spend the next week or two trying to clear Lagares and Frazier and then Iíd make a stealthy offer to Harper. Barring that dream Iíd look to sign one more reliever (Allen, Otto, Warren) and maybe bring in another SP to compete with Vargas. From there Iím ready to start the season but Iíd keep monitoring Castellanos. Defense be damned, heíd be another sweet bat to add to the mix.
I think they need to sign deGrom and Wheeler  
CMicks3110 : 1/12/2019 4:07 pm : link
and move Frazier. Dan has been hammering Texas as a team that could land him; Texas just lost Beltre to retirement, so I wonder what we could get?
If Frazier doesnít get moved Iím betting  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2019 4:13 pm : link
JD Davis goes to Syracuse initially. I actually think Alonso might too in spite of BVWís comments. Opening day bench will be something like Broxton, McNeil, TJ Rivera, Dom, and Nido. Frazier probably is your opening day 1B. In a few weeks, TDA, Alonso, etc will work their way back in.
RE: I think they need to sign deGrom and Wheeler  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2019 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14259619 CMicks3110 said:
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and move Frazier. Dan has been hammering Texas as a team that could land him; Texas just lost Beltre to retirement, so I wonder what we could get?


Wheeler isnít getting extended imo. Heís too young and too close to free agency to screw himself. A deGrom extension is coming though. Probably will be announced in ST.
RE: I think they need to sign deGrom and Wheeler  
pjcas18 : 1/12/2019 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14259619 CMicks3110 said:
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and move Frazier. Dan has been hammering Texas as a team that could land him; Texas just lost Beltre to retirement, so I wonder what we could get?


I'm skeptical the Mets will sign JDG, Thor, and Wheeler. If I had to pick two it's JDG and Thor.

Wheeler might be the best of the three if he pitches like he did since he got straightened out last year, but let's also not forget he began last year in Vegas.

He is the riskiest of the 3 IMO and I would be hesitant to sign him to a high $$$ multi-year contract.
Shecky keeps pushing for a Thor  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2019 4:21 pm : link
Extension so maybe he knows something we donít. I could see that.

I have high hopes Wheeler will stay a Met (we know he loves being here) but if we want him we are going to have to sign him as a FA next year sadly (which I could still see).
Wheeler is a weird cat  
CMicks3110 : 1/12/2019 4:21 pm : link
he has stated numerous times that he does not like change. He's apparently very comfortable with the Mets, they stuck with him through his injuries, he might give them a discount. And Thor is 3 years away, so I'm not too worried about that. I want to win in the next 3 years.
RE: Wheeler is a weird cat  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2019 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14259633 CMicks3110 said:
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he has stated numerous times that he does not like change. He's apparently very comfortable with the Mets, they stuck with him through his injuries, he might give them a discount. And Thor is 3 years away, so I'm not too worried about that. I want to win in the next 3 years.


Yup and letís not forget he called up Sandy and begged him not to trade him.
but Z  
CMicks3110 : 1/12/2019 4:28 pm : link
do you see any in-season trade targets? That you like?
Thor  
pjcas18 : 1/12/2019 4:29 pm : link
is a potential FA exactly one year after deGrom, so if you extend deGrom and Wheeler, odds are you not extending Thor unless for some reason Wheeler is on a two year deal. Otherwise that's like $75M tied up in 3 pitchers.

So whether you don't want to worry about something three years from now, but you do want to worry about something that doesn't have to happen for two years, you are possibly making your decision for you.

If any of these guys (JDG, Thor, Wheeler) get to FA healthy the Mets will (or should) offer the QO making it at least a little more painful for other teams to sign them.

but regardless I still feel like only two remain Mets. I hope Matz blows up and makes it an even harder decision. He's a potential FA same year as Thor.
RE: but Z  
ZGiants98 : 1/12/2019 4:35 pm : link
In comment 14259643 CMicks3110 said:
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do you see any in-season trade targets? That you like?


I mentioned Castellanos but other than him not really. Iíd just wait and see and react based on our needs. We will certainly know at the deadline if we need another reliever, bat, ect but what if Cespedes comes back? What if Bashlor emerges as a stud in the pen? A lot can happen so itís hard to predict.
RE: Eric  
Eric on Li : 1/12/2019 4:40 pm : link
In comment 14259617 XBRONX said:
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An eight man pen. Maybe the Mets dont need hitters on the bench or back up fielders.


You really think there's that big of a difference between a 4 man bench & a 5 man bench? Last year with a 7 man BP and added an 8th man like a week later. It would seem 1 of the main benefits of having so many versatile pieces (Lowrie & McNeil in particular) would be having less of a need for a 4th non-catcher on the bench.
here's 1 deadline name - Andrelton Simmons  
Eric on Li : 1/12/2019 4:48 pm : link
obviously depends on whether or not the Angels are in contention, but at that point he will have 1.5 years left on his contract and I think the Mets + Angels line up as potential trade partners. Might even be as simple as Rosario for Simmons. Obviously if Rosario breaks out it won't make sense, but if he continues to be up and down like last year or only improves slightly, Simmons is a rare talent who could come in and greatly improve the chances of winning over the next 2 years. His bat fits the style of the new regime, his contract isn't great but it's affordable, and while I haven't seen him much since leaving Atlanta there is no player I've ever seen have more of an impact every game defensively. Angels would add a high upside player who they could instantly insert at SS, gain extra years of control, and save $15m for 2020 to add elsewhere.
RE: I think they need to sign deGrom and Wheeler  
gmenatlarge : 1/12/2019 7:08 pm : link
In comment 14259619 CMicks3110 said:
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and move Frazier. Dan has been hammering Texas as a team that could land him; Texas just lost Beltre to retirement, so I wonder what we could get?


A bag of balls...
I've  
DanMetroMan : 1/12/2019 9:54 pm : link
mentioned a few potential targets.. Heineman, Calhoun, DeSheilds, Tocci... they have some excess.
Dan  
CMicks3110 : 1/12/2019 10:11 pm : link
do you see Frazier being on OD roster right now?
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RE: Dan  
DanMetroMan : 1/12/2019 11:00 pm : link
In comment 14260131 CMicks3110 said:
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do you see Frazier being on OD roster right now?


They keep talking up the depth so my guess is yes but I'd prefer they move him if it can better balance the roster. A good/solid RP, some OF depth etc
RE: He's a BVE client  
Section331 : 1/13/2019 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14258967 CromartiesKid21 said:
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Of course he was going to get his fair share


So itís a problem they reached an agreement with the reigning Cy Young winner? I swear, some fans will find anything to complain about. They also reached an agreement with Thor, not a former BVW client. Is there a problem there too?
This time of year  
pjcas18 : 1/13/2019 12:31 pm : link
hope really springs eternal, but this is a cool Alonso video, especially the end.

some time you get the feeling athletes are aloof to their team's history especially if they did not grow up a fan of that team. It's cool to me that Alonso gets it.

I'm a sucker for shit like this, but it makes the players easier to root for.
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I think Alonso is going to be really good - better than Duda  
Eric on Li : 1/13/2019 12:47 pm : link
and probably closer to what Delgado was his first year here. Really hope we get our own Jesus Aguilar/near .900ops 1B out of him or Davis long term for 1B. Would be a very nice compliment to the young core of lefties with Nimmo/Conforto/Mcneil.
I  
DanMetroMan : 1/13/2019 12:53 pm : link
don't see it with Davis. Looks like a depth talent to me. I think he's closer to a Wilmer Flores type of upside than a good regular. Below average athlete, stiff even at the plate (like Wilmer). I'm not even hating, he can play 4 positions (plus even throw a few mop up innings) but I'd be surprised if he's much more than a good bench option (best case).
My fear with Alonso  
pjcas18 : 1/13/2019 1:01 pm : link
is that he'll hit better than Duda, but will prove his glove is not playable.

then what do you do?

It's the only reason I'd been advocating to trade him and as cool as the video is I'd still trade him for a similarly rated prospect in the OF.

but....If he can improve his D he could be the missing piece. Huge middle of the order RH bat, at low cost for the next 4 - 5 years.

and I don't get why he can't improve his D. Wade Boggs did. I am not an expert, but I think 1B should at least be a spot where athletic limitations (like Flores had) shouldn't prevent you from improving your D. I don't even know if Alonso is limited athletically and 1B isn't like him moving to a new position, he's played there all his life from what I know.

Also, Alonso highlights (like Dom Smith did) how hard defense is to project.

Here is a high school write-up on Alonso:

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2012 National Showcase
Pete Alonso is a 2013 3B/1B with a 6-3 207 lb. frame from Tampa, FL who attends Plant HS. Tall, well proportioned athletic build, very strong. Right handed hitter, straight stance, long and strong swing, best when he isn't trying to pull/lift, has the strength to hit the ball out of the park to all fields, good loose swing, still projects some as a hitter. 7.06 runner, lite on his feet for his size, very good raw arm strength, good hands, accurate throws, actions playable for third, is also a well above average defensive first baseman. Excellent student, verbal commitment to Florida.
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Eric on Li : 1/13/2019 1:06 pm : link
In comment 14260787 DanMetroMan said:
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don't see it with Davis. Looks like a depth talent to me. I think he's closer to a Wilmer Flores type of upside than a good regular. Below average athlete, stiff even at the plate (like Wilmer). I'm not even hating, he can play 4 positions (plus even throw a few mop up innings) but I'd be surprised if he's much more than a good bench option (best case).


I don't have a great feel either way with Davis. I'd say Wilmer-esque bench piece (800ish OPS, good against lefties) who takes over whatever role Frazier has this year next year + beyond is the most likely outcome since usually things end up somewhere middle of the road.

I have more confidence in Alonso being closer to a top of the division regular / 900 ops guy since that's been his track record everywhere in the minors - not just the PCL. Also has a better track record handling high velocity, lower K rate, hitting for a higher average, etc.
RE: My fear with Alonso  
Eric on Li : 1/13/2019 1:10 pm : link
In comment 14260795 pjcas18 said:
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is that he'll hit better than Duda, but will prove his glove is not playable.

then what do you do?

It's the only reason I'd been advocating to trade him and as cool as the video is I'd still trade him for a similarly rated prospect in the OF.

but....If he can improve his D he could be the missing piece. Huge middle of the order RH bat, at low cost for the next 4 - 5 years.

and I don't get why he can't improve his D. Wade Boggs did. I am not an expert, but I think 1B should at least be a spot where athletic limitations (like Flores had) shouldn't prevent you from improving your D. I don't even know if Alonso is limited athletically and 1B isn't like him moving to a new position, he's played there all his life from what I know.

Also, Alonso highlights (like Dom Smith did) how hard defense is to project.

Here is a high school write-up on Alonso:



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2012 National Showcase
Pete Alonso is a 2013 3B/1B with a 6-3 207 lb. frame from Tampa, FL who attends Plant HS. Tall, well proportioned athletic build, very strong. Right handed hitter, straight stance, long and strong swing, best when he isn't trying to pull/lift, has the strength to hit the ball out of the park to all fields, good loose swing, still projects some as a hitter. 7.06 runner, lite on his feet for his size, very good raw arm strength, good hands, accurate throws, actions playable for third, is also a well above average defensive first baseman. Excellent student, verbal commitment to Florida.



So few players have ever been unplayable at 1B, even those who got switched there after playing other positions for a decade in a pinch are usually fine (like Jay Bruce for example). I find it hard to believe a guy who works as hard as Alonso and has played there so long won't be playable. Piazza sucked but he was a terrible athlete, at the end of his career, and had never gotten any experience there professionally. Other than him can't think of too many others.
I'd  
DanMetroMan : 1/13/2019 1:13 pm : link
love to be wrong on Davis. I just see a guy who mashes in the minors but struggles with high level pitching. He's very Wilmer, I hope he can get to that point because if Wilmer could play LF/RF even in a fill-in role he'd likely still be here.
Almost  
DanMetroMan : 1/13/2019 1:19 pm : link
finally at 50 (the trades have drawn this out)


Rookie maximums for at-bats (130), games pitched (30) or innings (50) in the major leagues"

If the 2 leaders are within 5% of each other, or the leader has less than 30% there will be a run-off between the top 2. If a run-off results in a tie the tiebreaker will be vote total in the previous poll, we will continue to "go back" in the polls until there is a clear leader.

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*Drew Smith is ineligible
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1) Andres Gimenez (SS) AA 19/37 votes- 51%
2) Peter Alonso (1B) AAA 24/36 votes- 67%
3) Ronny Mauricio (SS) Kingsport 12/33-36%
4) Mark Vientos (3b) Kingsport 16/31-52%
5) David Peterson (LHP) A+ 21/31- 68%
6) Franklyn Kilome (RHP) AA 20/33-61%
7) Thomas Szapucki (LHP) A 18/32-56%
8) Shervyen Newton (SS) Kingsport 12/30-40%, Run-off with Anthony Kay 17/33-52%
9) Anthony Kay (LHP) AA 18/26-69%
10) Simeon Woods-Richardson (RHP) Kingsport 12/30-40%
11) Will Toffey (3B) 10/29-34%, run-off with Cecchini 15/27-56%
12) Gavin Cecchini (2b) 14/26-46%
13) Francisco Alvarez (C) 9/26-35%
14) Dez Lindsay (OF) 7/18-39%
15) Tony Dibrell (RHP) 9/23-39%
16) Jordan Humphreys (RHP) 7/21-33%, Run-off with Nido 18/24-75%
17) Junior Santos (RHP) 6/28-21%, Run-off with Nido 11/20-55%
18) Tomas Nido (C) 10/23-43%
19) Luis Guillorme (SS) 9/24-38%
20) Adrian Hernandez 6/26-23%, run-off with Wahl/Cortes 8/15-53%
21) Carlos Cortes (2b) 8/21-38%
22) Steven Villines (RHP) 4/16 25%, Run-off with Thompson/Wahl 9/23-39%
23) David Thompson (3b) 8/23-35%
24) Ali Sanchez (C) 9/17-53%
25) Eric Hanhold (RHP) 7/21-33%, run-off 7/20-35%
26) Luis Carpio (IF) 4/18-22%, runoff with Uriarte 9/14-64%
27) Stanley Consuegra (OF) 4/20-20%, runoff with Uriarte/Valdez 6/17-35%, advances due to more votes in previous poll
28) Juan Uriarte (C) 4/19-21%
29) Freddy Valdez (OF) 7/17-41%
30) Daniel Zamora (LHP) 3/17-18%, run-off with Montes De Oca 10/12-83%
31) Jaylen Palmer (??) 3/12-25%, run-off with Montes de Oca/Vilera 9/16-56%
32) Ryley Gilliam (RHP) 5/22-23%, run-off with Manea 8/16-50%, advances due to more votes in previous poll
33) Matt Winaker (OF) 4/22-18
34) Kyle Dowdy (RHP) 6/20-30%, run-off with Vilera 9/12-75%
35) Jaison Vilera (RHP) 6/17-35%
36) Jose Miguel Medina(OF) 6/17-24%
37) Jeremy Vasquez (1b) 3/18-17% run-off with MDO/Manea/Viall 3/7-43%
38) Patrick Mazeika (C) 4/13-31%
39) Walker Lockett (RHP) 5/13-38%
40) Sam Haggerty (UTIL) 7/11 64%
41) Chris Viall (RHP) 4/11 36%
42) Ryder Ryan (RHP) 8/13- 62%
Phillies  
DanMetroMan : 1/13/2019 1:45 pm : link
optimistic they will land Harper. It would make them the favorites in the NL East for sure.
what kind of player do you think Cecchini turns into?  
CMicks3110 : 1/13/2019 1:58 pm : link
do you think he could be a DJ Lemieu type? Also, Harper I still see going back to Nats. I think Mets are not going to be filled with stars, but I just think our depth is really impressive. The NL East is a tough division.
RE: Phillies  
Eric on Li : 1/13/2019 2:40 pm : link
In comment 14260899 DanMetroMan said:
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optimistic they will land Harper. It would make them the favorites in the NL East for sure.


The NLE is gonna be such a dog fight this year. Was comparing the Mets/braves/nats and itís so close right now. I think the Phillies are behind but the rest of FA will likely close the gap no matter what happens, so I actually prefer they get Harper bc at least that sets the bats back and hopefully keeps Machado out of the division.

Right now the biggest edge the Mets have is in the back end of the pen so I really hope they continue to build that up. The Braves everyday roster is great but their pitching is pretty far behind the rest.
RE: what kind of player do you think Cecchini turns into?  
Eric on Li : 1/13/2019 2:45 pm : link
In comment 14260937 CMicks3110 said:
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do you think he could be a DJ Lemieu type? Also, Harper I still see going back to Nats. I think Mets are not going to be filled with stars, but I just think our depth is really impressive. The NL East is a tough division.


I think his best case is Lowrie, just obviously a long shot. Iíve always liked his offensive profile just needs to get a chance at the mlb level. Hopefully this year he tears up cuse and force his way to getting a shot here or elsewhere.
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DanMetroMan : 1/14/2019 12:34 pm : link
Maybe he just wanted to stay in SF but this is a GREAT deal for SF. I would have been all over this.

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RE: what kind of player do you think Cecchini turns into?  
DanMetroMan : 1/14/2019 12:36 pm : link
In comment 14260937 CMicks3110 said:
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do you think he could be a DJ Lemieu type? Also, Harper I still see going back to Nats. I think Mets are not going to be filled with stars, but I just think our depth is really impressive. The NL East is a tough division.


lemahieu is arguably the best defensive 2b in baseball so I'd say there is close to a 0% chance Cecchini is ever a similar player. Don't see Lowrie being realistic either. Lowrie showed massive pop (for a MI) even in college. 17 homers his Jr year at Stanford despite the "Stanford swing" stuff. Anything is possible but Cecchini just doesn't have that kind of swing/loft. I think he can be a big leaguer and help the Mets but an "extra" guy.
Gimme  
DanMetroMan : 1/14/2019 1:39 pm : link
Miley and Avisail Garcia.
here's why imo Lowrie's a fair best case for Cecchini  
Eric on Li : 1/14/2019 2:02 pm : link
Lowrie took his first pro at bat at age 24. His first "good year" wasn't until age 26 and in between he went back and forth between majors/minors. His first 400+ ab season wasn't until age 29. With Cecchini heading into his age 25 season right now, purely in terms of timing that puts him in a relatively similar window, especially since last year was simply a lost year due to injury.

In terms of scouting reports, they also both profiled similarly - low k, solid contact skills, solid ability to draw walks. Below average SS and athletes who ended up moving over to 2B (though Lowrie stuck at SS longer). Their minor league bodies of worked tracked similarly with their scouting reports - though as Dan pointed out 1 consistency is that Lowrie tracked consistently with more power.

However - if you cherry picked Cecchini's upside, he has shown flashes of similar power. In his 120 AB's last year, his isolated slg% was the highest of his career and very comparable with what Lowrie did when he was in AAA (non-pcl though). Ironically it was actually the exact average of Lowrie's unexpectedly awesome last 2 seasons for Oakland. His overall 2015-2016 slugging %'s were also the same, and in 2015 it was bing not pcl. So 3 of the last 4 years he's shown a similar amount of power, though 2 of them were PCL.

If I could predict how Cecchini's career will actually go from here I wouldn't be on BBI, but I think there's enough there that if he manages to get the most out of what he's shown and successfully make the leap to the big leagues, I could very well see him as a 2-3 fwar 2b in the mold of Lowrie's career average.
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how do u feel miley vs. gio? I expect Gio will cost more but who knows.
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how do u feel miley vs. gio? I expect Gio will cost more but who knows.


Some of the numbers really like Miley but that's obviously forecasting vs. resume (Gio wins that one). I liked Holland the most but Miley vs. Gio I'd be happy with either.
yea out of the 3 I think I'd have gone Gio  
Eric on Li : 1/14/2019 2:19 pm : link
with the most intriguing factor being his career numbers at citi. Even if it was purely just a comfort level or confidence, seems like a big factor going in his direction.
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