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Eric from BBI : Admin : 1/12/2019 11:13 am
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Have the Colts had  
rebel yell : 1/12/2019 7:22 pm : link
any calls go their way tonight? Even one?
RE: P-U!  
speedywheels : 1/12/2019 7:23 pm : link
In comment 14259795 Stan in LA said:
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Luck sucks.


Luck was awesome, you are nowhere to be found. Heís having a rough day, you magically appear.

You suck worse; can we ban you?

RE: Have the Colts had  
jnoble : 1/12/2019 7:23 pm : link
In comment 14259807 rebel yell said:
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any calls go their way tonight? Even one?


They've been getting reffed good and hard like the Giants usually do
Vinateri...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/12/2019 7:24 pm : link
WTF?
RE: .  
speedywheels : 1/12/2019 7:24 pm : link
In comment 14259796 arcarsenal said:
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He's no RG3... that's for sure!


Well done, arc.

Heís probably too dumb to realize youíre mocking him.
RE: Some People  
arcarsenal : 1/12/2019 7:25 pm : link
In comment 14259805 WillVAB said:
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Comment about Eliís arm strength ó Luckís is substantially worse.


Have you watched him at all this year? Your comments make it sound like this is the first time you've seen him play this season.

He's been one of the best QB's in the entire league.

It's possible he's dealing with arm fatigue. He hasn't played a full season in two years and threw nearly 650 passes this season.

His arm strength was fine this year. He's having a tough time today. It happens.
How good is Mahomes?  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/12/2019 7:25 pm : link
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Not sure  
mittenedman : 1/12/2019 7:25 pm : link
what the criticism is of the Chiefs D. They have a lot of talent up front and they play like savages.
Time to retire for Vinatieri  
Sammo85 : 1/12/2019 7:25 pm : link
Great career but at old age now and canít kick off, canít kick long FGs.
Stan is like clockwork  
UConn4523 : 1/12/2019 7:26 pm : link
RG3 sitting at home after being on the bench, youíll never hear from him. Luck not having a good game, and there he is.

Stan usually bats around 1.000 when being wrong but RG3 being better than Luck still takes the cake.
RE: Stan is like clockwork  
Mr. Bungle : 1/12/2019 7:28 pm : link
In comment 14259816 UConn4523 said:
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RG3 sitting at home after being on the bench, youíll never hear from him. Luck not having a good game, and there he is.

Stan usually bats around 1.000 when being wrong but RG3 being better than Luck still takes the cake.

And right after Stan's latest stupid remark, Luck throws a gorgeous TD.

Classic.
RE: Not sure  
arcarsenal : 1/12/2019 7:28 pm : link
In comment 14259814 mittenedman said:
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what the criticism is of the Chiefs D. They have a lot of talent up front and they play like savages.


They gave up the 2nd most yarda in all of football. They weren't good at all.

Mahomes has kept people from talking about it.

Their defense played well today - no doubt - but there's a reason why they were being criticized. They sucked this year. Gave up a lot of points and a ton of yards.
RE: How good is Mahomes?  
speedywheels : 1/12/2019 7:30 pm : link
In comment 14259813 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Actually, heís been pedestrian today. No throwing TDís

They havenít needed him to be a superstar, though.
This is what happens  
Dave on the UWS : 1/12/2019 7:30 pm : link
When you take a dome team out of the dome. Luck is having a REALLY tough time with the elements. As much crap as we give Macadoo, he was spot on about Mahomes.
Weird play call there  
UConn4523 : 1/12/2019 7:30 pm : link
a first down ends the game pretty much, not sure why the big play try.
Wow  
UConn4523 : 1/12/2019 7:31 pm : link
well thatís game
Does anyone else find it weird that Vinatieri has  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/12/2019 7:34 pm : link
spent a majority of his career as a Colt? 20 years from now, I'm going to probably remember him just as that Patriots kicker who made all those big kicks.
RE: Weird play call there  
jnoble : 1/12/2019 7:34 pm : link
In comment 14259822 UConn4523 said:
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a first down ends the game pretty much, not sure why the big play try.


If that bullshit call was against the Giants I mightve tossed my TV out the front window
RE: RE: How good is Mahomes?  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/12/2019 7:34 pm : link
In comment 14259820 speedywheels said:
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Actually, heís been pedestrian today. No throwing TDís

They havenít needed him to be a superstar, though.


Just a general question. He's certainly thrown enough TDs all season long, and this game has literally never been in doubt for KC.
KC looking good  
NYerInMA : 1/12/2019 7:35 pm : link
especially with being at home next week in the AFC Championship.
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WillVAB : 1/12/2019 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14259812 arcarsenal said:
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Comment about Eliís arm strength ó Luckís is substantially worse.



Have you watched him at all this year? Your comments make it sound like this is the first time you've seen him play this season.

He's been one of the best QB's in the entire league.

It's possible he's dealing with arm fatigue. He hasn't played a full season in two years and threw nearly 650 passes this season.

His arm strength was fine this year. He's having a tough time today. It happens.


Yea Iíve watched him ó and I donít see some generational talent.
RE: RE: RE: How good is Mahomes?  
speedywheels : 1/12/2019 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14259827 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Actually, heís been pedestrian today. No throwing TDís

They havenít needed him to be a superstar, though.



Just a general question. He's certainly thrown enough TDs all season long, and this game has literally never been in doubt for KC.


Weird question to ask in a game where he hasnít done much of anything..
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arcarsenal : 1/12/2019 7:40 pm : link
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Comment about Eliís arm strength ó Luckís is substantially worse.



Have you watched him at all this year? Your comments make it sound like this is the first time you've seen him play this season.

He's been one of the best QB's in the entire league.

It's possible he's dealing with arm fatigue. He hasn't played a full season in two years and threw nearly 650 passes this season.

His arm strength was fine this year. He's having a tough time today. It happens.



Yea Iíve watched him ó and I donít see some generational talent.


Well, he's one of the best QB's in the game now. So, you can use whichever arbitrary metric you'd like to discredit him, but the reality is that he had a great season when people were wondering if he'd ever even play football again just one year ago.

Luck is a tremendous QB. I guess anyone who isn't generational "sucks" or something, but to each their own.

There are about 25+ teams in the NFL that would gladly give up their QB for Luck if they could.
I don't know why anybody bothers responding to  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/12/2019 7:42 pm : link
Stanley when it comes to Luck. We know where he stands. He's just trolling people at this point.
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jnoble : 1/12/2019 7:42 pm : link
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Comment about Eliís arm strength ó Luckís is substantially worse.



Have you watched him at all this year? Your comments make it sound like this is the first time you've seen him play this season.

He's been one of the best QB's in the entire league.

It's possible he's dealing with arm fatigue. He hasn't played a full season in two years and threw nearly 650 passes this season.

His arm strength was fine this year. He's having a tough time today. It happens.



Yea Iíve watched him ó and I donít see some generational talent.



Well, he's one of the best QB's in the game now. So, you can use whichever arbitrary metric you'd like to discredit him, but the reality is that he had a great season when people were wondering if he'd ever even play football again just one year ago.

Luck is a tremendous QB. I guess anyone who isn't generational "sucks" or something, but to each their own.

There are about 25+ teams in the NFL that would gladly give up their QB for Luck if they could.

I was saying last year the Jets should've tried to trade for him if it was at all feasible
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speedywheels : 1/12/2019 7:42 pm : link
In comment 14259829 WillVAB said:
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Comment about Eliís arm strength ó Luckís is substantially worse.



Have you watched him at all this year? Your comments make it sound like this is the first time you've seen him play this season.

He's been one of the best QB's in the entire league.

It's possible he's dealing with arm fatigue. He hasn't played a full season in two years and threw nearly 650 passes this season.

His arm strength was fine this year. He's having a tough time today. It happens.



Yea Iíve watched him ó and I donít see some generational talent.


Who said heís a ďgenerational talentĒ?

The comment was heís was one of the best QBís this season. That statement is 100% true.
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arcarsenal : 1/12/2019 7:42 pm : link
Not going to get many easier TD chances than that... gotta catch it
RE: This is what happens  
Eman11 : 1/12/2019 7:43 pm : link
In comment 14259821 Dave on the UWS said:
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When you take a dome team out of the dome. Luck is having a REALLY tough time with the elements. As much crap as we give Macadoo, he was spot on about Mahomes.


I thought playing outside today would have a bad effect on the Colts but was told it would hurt the Chiefs and their O more.

I guess not.
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arcarsenal : 1/12/2019 7:44 pm : link
Another drop in the end zone.

It's too little too late, but Luck really isn't getting any help from these guys. Ebron had a shot at one before the half that he flubbed... two more drops right in the EZ on this drive too.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Some People  
WillVAB : 1/12/2019 7:45 pm : link
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Comment about Eliís arm strength ó Luckís is substantially worse.



Have you watched him at all this year? Your comments make it sound like this is the first time you've seen him play this season.

He's been one of the best QB's in the entire league.

It's possible he's dealing with arm fatigue. He hasn't played a full season in two years and threw nearly 650 passes this season.

His arm strength was fine this year. He's having a tough time today. It happens.



Yea Iíve watched him ó and I donít see some generational talent.



Well, he's one of the best QB's in the game now. So, you can use whichever arbitrary metric you'd like to discredit him, but the reality is that he had a great season when people were wondering if he'd ever even play football again just one year ago.

Luck is a tremendous QB. I guess anyone who isn't generational "sucks" or something, but to each their own.

There are about 25+ teams in the NFL that would gladly give up their QB for Luck if they could.


Luck was a liability today vs a bad defense. I never said he sucks, but itís not like the Colts have an edge over the league bc they have Luck and the opponent doesnít.
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speedywheels : 1/12/2019 7:54 pm : link
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Comment about Eliís arm strength ó Luckís is substantially worse.



Have you watched him at all this year? Your comments make it sound like this is the first time you've seen him play this season.

He's been one of the best QB's in the entire league.

It's possible he's dealing with arm fatigue. He hasn't played a full season in two years and threw nearly 650 passes this season.

His arm strength was fine this year. He's having a tough time today. It happens.



Yea Iíve watched him ó and I donít see some generational talent.



Well, he's one of the best QB's in the game now. So, you can use whichever arbitrary metric you'd like to discredit him, but the reality is that he had a great season when people were wondering if he'd ever even play football again just one year ago.

Luck is a tremendous QB. I guess anyone who isn't generational "sucks" or something, but to each their own.

There are about 25+ teams in the NFL that would gladly give up their QB for Luck if they could.



Luck was a liability today vs a bad defense. I never said he sucks, but itís not like the Colts have an edge over the league bc they have Luck and the opponent doesnít.


Chiefs D played lights out today.
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arcarsenal : 1/12/2019 7:56 pm : link
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Comment about Eliís arm strength ó Luckís is substantially worse.



Have you watched him at all this year? Your comments make it sound like this is the first time you've seen him play this season.

He's been one of the best QB's in the entire league.

It's possible he's dealing with arm fatigue. He hasn't played a full season in two years and threw nearly 650 passes this season.

His arm strength was fine this year. He's having a tough time today. It happens.



Yea Iíve watched him ó and I donít see some generational talent.



Well, he's one of the best QB's in the game now. So, you can use whichever arbitrary metric you'd like to discredit him, but the reality is that he had a great season when people were wondering if he'd ever even play football again just one year ago.

Luck is a tremendous QB. I guess anyone who isn't generational "sucks" or something, but to each their own.

There are about 25+ teams in the NFL that would gladly give up their QB for Luck if they could.



Luck was a liability today vs a bad defense. I never said he sucks, but itís not like the Colts have an edge over the league bc they have Luck and the opponent doesnít.


The Colts don't have an edge over anyone because they have Luck?

What am I reading here?

They have one of the best QB's in football. Teams trip over themselves year after year trying to get a player like him.

KC is one of the only teams in football that Indy could go head to head with and not have the best QB on the field.

He didn't play that well today - he also had a lot of dropped passes that should have been caught.

The argument isn't about whether or not he's generational - I don't know how we got there. Just kept seeing silly comments about his "shitty rotator cuff" and how his arm strength is worse than Eli's and was wondering where they were coming from when the guy had such a great year and should be a lock to win Comeback Player of the Year.
RE: I think the Colts could win the SB.  
tyrik13 : 1/12/2019 7:56 pm : link
In comment 14259428 Optimus-NY said:
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I think they beat Numbnuts Reid and the defenseless FakerCHIEFS.


Yeaaaa this didnít age well lmao!!
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WillVAB : 1/12/2019 7:56 pm : link
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Comment about Eliís arm strength ó Luckís is substantially worse.



Have you watched him at all this year? Your comments make it sound like this is the first time you've seen him play this season.

He's been one of the best QB's in the entire league.

It's possible he's dealing with arm fatigue. He hasn't played a full season in two years and threw nearly 650 passes this season.

His arm strength was fine this year. He's having a tough time today. It happens.



Yea Iíve watched him ó and I donít see some generational talent.



Well, he's one of the best QB's in the game now. So, you can use whichever arbitrary metric you'd like to discredit him, but the reality is that he had a great season when people were wondering if he'd ever even play football again just one year ago.

Luck is a tremendous QB. I guess anyone who isn't generational "sucks" or something, but to each their own.

There are about 25+ teams in the NFL that would gladly give up their QB for Luck if they could.



Luck was a liability today vs a bad defense. I never said he sucks, but itís not like the Colts have an edge over the league bc they have Luck and the opponent doesnít.



Chiefs D played lights out today.


Chiefs D can rush the passer and thatís it. Luck played like shit today.
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UConn4523 : 1/12/2019 7:59 pm : link
In comment 14259837 arcarsenal said:
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Another drop in the end zone.

It's too little too late, but Luck really isn't getting any help from these guys. Ebron had a shot at one before the half that he flubbed... two more drops right in the EZ on this drive too.


They need to prioritize WR this yeah, IMO. Hilton just isn't a #1 WR and his size is a problem in games like this. Luck really needs a true #1 with decent size, IMO.
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arcarsenal : 1/12/2019 8:00 pm : link
Here's why IND lost today...

Damien Williams rushed for 129 yards and they had absolutely no answer for Travis Kelce.

Mahomes actually wasn't much better than Luck was today, but his defense was.

Indy had a few small windows where they could have gotten back into the game. But between the drops, the missed kick, and the inability to cash in, they couldn't get back within striking distance to make KC sweat.
Luck may not have had a good day  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/12/2019 8:01 pm : link
but the Chiefs defense, which was allowing 5 yards a carry for the season, stepped up today. Colts couldn't move the ball at all.
WillVAB  
UConn4523 : 1/12/2019 8:02 pm : link
you don't sound very intelligent when it comes to Luck. Did you lose a bet or something?

Almost every team that doesn't have Luck wishes they did, and if he's better than most of the other QB's in the NFL, how is that not an advantage?

Your arguments make absolutely zero sense. After his big injury he only comes back to toss almost 40 TDs and 4600 yards. I'd sign up for 75% of that production let alone 100% of it. They also had the best 3rd down conversion % in the NFL, is that because Luck is just an alright player? Their offense was highly efficient this year, there's nothing you can point to to discredit that.
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arcarsenal : 1/12/2019 8:04 pm : link
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Another drop in the end zone.

It's too little too late, but Luck really isn't getting any help from these guys. Ebron had a shot at one before the half that he flubbed... two more drops right in the EZ on this drive too.



They need to prioritize WR this yeah, IMO. Hilton just isn't a #1 WR and his size is a problem in games like this. Luck really needs a true #1 with decent size, IMO.


Hilton just seems to have such high volatility. He goes on these elite tears where he's unstoppable, and then he will disappear or be a non factor.

He also seems to be a completely different WR with and without Luck. A guy like Hopkins, for instance, seems to always be the same guy regardless of his QB. Obviously the better the QB is, the more opportunities he'll get - but he's been far more consistent.

I would agree that the next thing IND needs is WR help. The depth behind Hilton is poor, too. Moncrief never panned out there and is in JAX now.

Inman makes some nice plays, but he's not a guy you rely on week in and week out. He's just a depth guy.
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speedywheels : 1/12/2019 8:04 pm : link
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Comment about Eliís arm strength ó Luckís is substantially worse.



Have you watched him at all this year? Your comments make it sound like this is the first time you've seen him play this season.

He's been one of the best QB's in the entire league.

It's possible he's dealing with arm fatigue. He hasn't played a full season in two years and threw nearly 650 passes this season.

His arm strength was fine this year. He's having a tough time today. It happens.



Yea Iíve watched him ó and I donít see some generational talent.



Well, he's one of the best QB's in the game now. So, you can use whichever arbitrary metric you'd like to discredit him, but the reality is that he had a great season when people were wondering if he'd ever even play football again just one year ago.

Luck is a tremendous QB. I guess anyone who isn't generational "sucks" or something, but to each their own.

There are about 25+ teams in the NFL that would gladly give up their QB for Luck if they could.



Luck was a liability today vs a bad defense. I never said he sucks, but itís not like the Colts have an edge over the league bc they have Luck and the opponent doesnít.



Chiefs D played lights out today.



Chiefs D can rush the passer and thatís it. Luck played like shit today.


Holy shit! If you came away from watching that game that it was due to Luck, then clearly you have no idea what you saw.

Dropped passes, missed kicks, 129 yards rushing by Williams. Just to name a few...
Looking forward to hearing  
Eman11 : 1/12/2019 8:04 pm : link
How blowhard Boomer spins this one come Monday morning? No doubt he's going to praise his buddy, the Colts having a fantastic year and their bright future.

I'm sure he'll kill their D too but guaranteed he'll deflect away from how shitty the Colts played today and say something like they held Mahomes without a TD pass. Lol

Nothing going forward is ever guaranteed, and the Colts needed to capitalize on their chance this year but instead they played like this game was house money IMO.
I just dont think the Colts are there yet  
UConn4523 : 1/12/2019 8:13 pm : link
they weren't better than KC in the regular season and they weren't better today. Their Defense, despite the good season still needs work, and they desperately need another WR. They are set up nicely for the next few years, KC has been loading up for a while now and needs to win before having to pay Mahomes.

What's remarkable is that the Colts have put together a pretty nice foundation despite having to pay Luck, and they've done it quickly. 2 years ago, heck even last year, their talent was among the worst in the NFL.
Colts 0 for 9...  
bw in dc : 1/12/2019 8:15 pm : link
on third down.

Hard to even sniff a W with that ineptitude.
RE: Looking forward to hearing  
speedywheels : 1/12/2019 8:42 pm : link
In comment 14259864 Eman11 said:
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How blowhard Boomer spins this one come Monday morning? No doubt he's going to praise his buddy, the Colts having a fantastic year and their bright future.

I'm sure he'll kill their D too but guaranteed he'll deflect away from how shitty the Colts played today and say something like they held Mahomes without a TD pass. Lol

Nothing going forward is ever guaranteed, and the Colts needed to capitalize on their chance this year but instead they played like this game was house money IMO.


Well he didnít throw a TD in only one other game this year. You can ignore the fact that Chiefs D played lights out and the dropped passes/ missed kicks all you want, but it doesnít make it any less true.
RE: Colts 0 for 9...  
speedywheels : 1/12/2019 8:43 pm : link
In comment 14259877 bw in dc said:
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on third down.

Hard to even sniff a W with that ineptitude.
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So i guess the Chiefs D had nothing to do with it. Just the colts ineptitude.

Lol
RE: RE: Looking forward to hearing  
Eman11 : 1/12/2019 8:48 pm : link
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How blowhard Boomer spins this one come Monday morning? No doubt he's going to praise his buddy, the Colts having a fantastic year and their bright future.

I'm sure he'll kill their D too but guaranteed he'll deflect away from how shitty the Colts played today and say something like they held Mahomes without a TD pass. Lol

Nothing going forward is ever guaranteed, and the Colts needed to capitalize on their chance this year but instead they played like this game was house money IMO.



Well he didnít throw a TD in only one other game this year. You can ignore the fact that Chiefs D played lights out and the dropped passes/ missed kicks all you want, but it doesnít make it any less true.


No question but he also guided his team up and down the field in the first half and the Colts couldn't stop them.

I pointed out a few Colts pluses from this game I'm sure Boomer will use but my main point is he'll spend more time deflecting away from the Colts actually you know... Losing a game they were never really even in.

Anything to fit his narrative and not admit he was wrong.
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bw in dc : 1/12/2019 9:48 pm : link
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on third down.

Hard to even sniff a W with that ineptitude.

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So i guess the Chiefs D had nothing to do with it. Just the colts ineptitude.

Lol


Do you have understanding how unlikely 0 for 9 is?

Sure, the Chiefs had something to do with it. But the Colts and Luck have to make a play. You can't be shut out on third down. I don't think that's unreasonable. The Chiefs aren't the 2000 Ravens.

So, yes, ineptitude.
LeBron at the game, I wonder who heís rooting for?!  
Ssanders9816 : 1/12/2019 9:52 pm : link
You know since heís a Cowboys, Browns and now Rams fan.

Oh and heís legit wearing Capri pants and carrying a purse.
Whoops wrong game thread  
Ssanders9816 : 1/12/2019 9:53 pm : link
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Chiefs-Chargers rematch  
spike : 1/12/2019 10:55 pm : link
Would be fun
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