"Throws to a variety of future NFL receivers like Parris Campbell, KJ Hill, Terry McLaurin, and Austin Mack among others. Running backs Mike Weber and JK Dobbins have also caught 11 passes between them."
Gee, why stop there? He played in front of a terrific pass blocking Oline and with very good RBs.
Oh, and the OSU laundry team rarely had to wash his uniform.
Look, I like Haskins. But there really needs to be more attention paid to his playing environment. It's been a long time since I've seen a QB in college play in such a clean pocket game after game after game.
To me, if we can land either Allen or Haskins in Â
"Throws to a variety of future NFL receivers like Parris Campbell, KJ Hill, Terry McLaurin, and Austin Mack among others. Running backs Mike Weber and JK Dobbins have also caught 11 passes between them."
Gee, why stop there? He played in front of a terrific pass blocking Oline and with very good RBs.
Oh, and the OSU laundry team rarely had to wash his uniform.
Look, I like Haskins. But there really needs to be more attention paid to his playing environment. It's been a long time since I've seen a QB in college play in such a clean pocket game after game after game.
This is true but I why isn’t it a criticism of Tua or Lawrence
"Throws to a variety of future NFL receivers like Parris Campbell, KJ Hill, Terry McLaurin, and Austin Mack among others. Running backs Mike Weber and JK Dobbins have also caught 11 passes between them."
Gee, why stop there? He played in front of a terrific pass blocking Oline and with very good RBs.
Oh, and the OSU laundry team rarely had to wash his uniform.
Look, I like Haskins. But there really needs to be more attention paid to his playing environment. It's been a long time since I've seen a QB in college play in such a clean pocket game after game after game.
This is true but I why isn’t it a criticism of Tua or Lawrence
Well, neither are in this draft so it doesn’t matter at this point.
On Tua, he’s capable of making plays with his legs and he’s really good on the move. I’m a bit bothered by his height and his proneness to injury, too. But, yes, I get the criticism of playing with outstanding surrounding talent. Here’s the difference though - the SEC is a much better conference than the B1G and he’s facing better talent week in, week out.
Lawrence is a stud. That arm talent jumps off the screen. And he’s 6’5” and athletic. If he was able to declare right now he’s clearly the #1 prospect.
I don’t see those level of skills for Haskins vis-à-vis Lawrence.
"Throws to a variety of future NFL receivers like Parris Campbell, KJ Hill, Terry McLaurin, and Austin Mack among others. Running backs Mike Weber and JK Dobbins have also caught 11 passes between them."
Gee, why stop there? He played in front of a terrific pass blocking Oline and with very good RBs.
Oh, and the OSU laundry team rarely had to wash his uniform.
Look, I like Haskins. But there really needs to be more attention paid to his playing environment. It's been a long time since I've seen a QB in college play in such a clean pocket game after game after game.
Let me also add you can say the exact same things about Tua and Lawrence who have tons of NFL talent around them including their OL. Both will go #1 in 2020 and 2021. But for some reason people attack Haskins for it. Makes no sense.
"Throws to a variety of future NFL receivers like Parris Campbell, KJ Hill, Terry McLaurin, and Austin Mack among others. Running backs Mike Weber and JK Dobbins have also caught 11 passes between them."
Gee, why stop there? He played in front of a terrific pass blocking Oline and with very good RBs.
Oh, and the OSU laundry team rarely had to wash his uniform.
Look, I like Haskins. But there really needs to be more attention paid to his playing environment. It's been a long time since I've seen a QB in college play in such a clean pocket game after game after game.
So I guess he sucks because he plays on a team with talent? You’ve said this same thing over and over again. Is he somehow the first QB to ever play on a team with other NFL talent? And even if you think he is, how the hell is that an automatic negative? I’ve seen guys on here say they wouldn’t draft him until the 3rd or 4th round because of it. I mean, wtf kind of nonsense is that?
"Throws to a variety of future NFL receivers like Parris Campbell, KJ Hill, Terry McLaurin, and Austin Mack among others. Running backs Mike Weber and JK Dobbins have also caught 11 passes between them."
Gee, why stop there? He played in front of a terrific pass blocking Oline and with very good RBs.
Oh, and the OSU laundry team rarely had to wash his uniform.
Look, I like Haskins. But there really needs to be more attention paid to his playing environment. It's been a long time since I've seen a QB in college play in such a clean pocket game after game after game.
Let me also add you can say the exact same things about Tua and Lawrence who have tons of NFL talent around them including their OL. Both will go #1 in 2020 and 2021. But for some reason people attack Haskins for it. Makes no sense.
Let me save some time - I haven’t it. It just appears you have a comprehension problem.
You’re begging and pleading with people to “look at his playing environment”. Constantly. It’s literally the ONLY thing you ever bring up in Haskins threads. You’re obsessed with it. That’s not exactly an endorsement now, is it?
Let me save some time - I haven’t it. It just appears you have a comprehension problem.
You’re begging and pleading with people to “look at his playing environment”. Constantly. It’s literally the ONLY thing you ever bring up in Haskins threads. You’re obsessed with it. That’s not exactly an endorsement now, is it?
Yes, I’m begging and pleading. Good one.
I’m merely making a point that context should matter. And in this case, I think Ourlads comes up short not adding that.
The allergic reaction to criticism of Haskins is very funny. When Roethlisberger came out there was criticism about his level of competition. When Sanchez came out there was criticism about his readiness, even his own coach mentioned it at Sanchez’s press conference to declare!
There was criticism that Trubisky only started one year at UNC.
There was criticism last year about Mayfield playing in the Big12 and his size.
Criticism is a constant when discussing prospects, specifically the QB position. Why that bothers people about Haskins is truly bizarre.
popular BBI opinion I think Haskins looks really good, but I think the Giants will have to move up if they want him. Unless they pick up a vet prior to the draft I think the Giants will have to take a long look at Haskins.
popular BBI opinion I think Haskins looks really good, but I think the Giants will have to move up if they want him. Unless they pick up a vet prior to the draft I think the Giants will have to take a long look at Haskins.
They will have to move up to get him. Someone will almost certainly view Haskins as a top 5 pick, and they will jump the Giants to get him. Maybe the Giants won't care, but if they want Haskins, they better be prepared to pay to move up and draft him.
I don't get this nonsense about Haskins and busting him for what he does. Watch Dan Orlovsky break him down. Part of the reason he doesn't get hit? He watches film, identifies blitzes, and gets the protection in place. That is an amazing attribute for a 20 year old QB with fewer than 15 starts. Orlovsky also shows a great throw against Washington where they brought a blitz, he got drilled, and still threw a 20 yard strike.
The guy completed 70 percent of his passes. I don't care who he played; that is amazing. And people here do nothing but discredit him. Two years from now the same people will rip on Lawrence for something else. Here's a clue: everyone has flaws. Haskins is a stud. Deal with it.
The Giants should find a way to get him; I have no doubt he will be a franchise QB for 15 years.
popular BBI opinion I think Haskins looks really good, but I think the Giants will have to move up if they want him. Unless they pick up a vet prior to the draft I think the Giants will have to take a long look at Haskins.
popular BBI opinion I think Haskins looks really good, but I think the Giants will have to move up if they want him. Unless they pick up a vet prior to the draft I think the Giants will have to take a long look at Haskins.
Why? Do you think Oakland will want him?
Not necessarily Oakland, but without a doubt a team that needs a QB will try to move up. Jacksonville seems pretty likely, Miami, Wash.. the list goes on. None of the top 5 teams definitely need a QB so they probably will try and move down a bit if the deal is good and some team will make it worthwhile.
playing behind a great line is silly. He still needs to make the reads adjust the protection and complete the passes.
He is not very mobile, as long as he is more mobile than Eli and Brady that is fine.
And the other point about him throwing to potential NFL WRs - that is who he will be throwing to next season - real NFL WRs.
I don't know where he will go. But whether somebody jumps the Giants to get him or not, the Giants will get somebody very good at #6.
Trade up for additional high and high ish 2nd rounders.
There are apparently 2 or 3 big DTs that 'move like linebackers' (rare) there are strong safeties that 'cover, read and take good angles vs pass deep and short', fast lbs that play football...pass rushers...
"Throws to a variety of future NFL receivers like Parris Campbell, KJ Hill, Terry McLaurin, and Austin Mack among others. Running backs Mike Weber and JK Dobbins have also caught 11 passes between them."
Gee, why stop there? He played in front of a terrific pass blocking Oline and with very good RBs.
Oh, and the OSU laundry team rarely had to wash his uniform.
Look, I like Haskins. But there really needs to be more attention paid to his playing environment. It's been a long time since I've seen a QB in college play in such a clean pocket game after game after game.
By your logic only QBs that play for shitty teams could ever be drafted high.
He has played very well. What more could he do? Break his OLs kneecaps to shoe you how he performs with poor blocking?
is one of the best CB prospects I've seen in a long time. This guy has All Pro written all over him.
I know the Giants have bigger fish to fry - I'd rather them find a QB or a trench player - but Williams is very tempting. He's mean, athletic and has tentacles for arms. Reminds me of Jalen Ramsey.
By your logic only QBs that play for shitty teams could ever be drafted high.
He has played very well. What more could he do? Break his OLs kneecaps to shoe you how he performs with poor blocking?
Let’s try it this way - I’m just saying be skeptical. Pump the brakes a bit. Consider everything when studying him.
Haskins is a talent - definitely. I saw him play in high school at Bullis. It’s pretty amazing how far he’s come.
But he really played in an almost too good to be true setting at OSU. The protection he got was outstanding. Whether that was because of OSU’s oline, or the average dlines in the B1G, or a combination of both, every QB in college would kill for that luxury. A luxury I believe skewed Haskins’s results. How much? I don’t know but it’s worthy of these discussions. So that’s why I bring it up.
It’s always good to see how players handle adversity. I just don’t how much Haskins truly faced to see what he has when things really get uncomfortable.
Because I can guarantee this - Haskins isn’t going to have the same luxuries in the pros he had at OSU. Not close. And I’m not sure there is ANY evidence to give us an idea how he’ll manage that...
Need a Playmaker on Defense Allen checks all the boxes
special talent IMO in round two I would go BPA
Offensive line there will be plenty to choose from .
Go defense the rest of the way .
I would be stunned if we didn't use a 1-2 pick on the
O-line its dreadful and Soldier won't be there much
longer I assume we will take 1-2 O-line in free agency
Center Rt and RG need to be addressed .make the most of
SB and build the line for Eli's replacement in 2020 .
popular BBI opinion I think Haskins looks really good, but I think the Giants will have to move up if they want him. Unless they pick up a vet prior to the draft I think the Giants will have to take a long look at Haskins.
They will have to move up to get him. Someone will almost certainly view Haskins as a top 5 pick, and they will jump the Giants to get him. Maybe the Giants won't care, but if they want Haskins, they better be prepared to pay to move up and draft him.
I don't get this nonsense about Haskins and busting him for what he does. Watch Dan Orlovsky break him down. Part of the reason he doesn't get hit? He watches film, identifies blitzes, and gets the protection in place. That is an amazing attribute for a 20 year old QB with fewer than 15 starts. Orlovsky also shows a great throw against Washington where they brought a blitz, he got drilled, and still threw a 20 yard strike.
The guy completed 70 percent of his passes. I don't care who he played; that is amazing. And people here do nothing but discredit him. Two years from now the same people will rip on Lawrence for something else. Here's a clue: everyone has flaws. Haskins is a stud. Deal with it.
The Giants should find a way to get him; I have no doubt he will be a franchise QB for 15 years.
Haskins accuracy is incredible imo..Haskins playing with Shep OBJ Engram and Barkley there is no doubt in my mind you’re looking at a Pro Bowl QB
Gee, why stop there? He played in front of a terrific pass blocking Oline and with very good RBs.
Oh, and the OSU laundry team rarely had to wash his uniform.
Look, I like Haskins. But there really needs to be more attention paid to his playing environment. It's been a long time since I've seen a QB in college play in such a clean pocket game after game after game.
Gee, why stop there? He played in front of a terrific pass blocking Oline and with very good RBs.
Oh, and the OSU laundry team rarely had to wash his uniform.
Look, I like Haskins. But there really needs to be more attention paid to his playing environment. It's been a long time since I've seen a QB in college play in such a clean pocket game after game after game.
This is true but I why isn’t it a criticism of Tua or Lawrence
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"Throws to a variety of future NFL receivers like Parris Campbell, KJ Hill, Terry McLaurin, and Austin Mack among others. Running backs Mike Weber and JK Dobbins have also caught 11 passes between them."
Gee, why stop there? He played in front of a terrific pass blocking Oline and with very good RBs.
Oh, and the OSU laundry team rarely had to wash his uniform.
Look, I like Haskins. But there really needs to be more attention paid to his playing environment. It's been a long time since I've seen a QB in college play in such a clean pocket game after game after game.
This is true but I why isn’t it a criticism of Tua or Lawrence
Well, neither are in this draft so it doesn’t matter at this point.
On Tua, he’s capable of making plays with his legs and he’s really good on the move. I’m a bit bothered by his height and his proneness to injury, too. But, yes, I get the criticism of playing with outstanding surrounding talent. Here’s the difference though - the SEC is a much better conference than the B1G and he’s facing better talent week in, week out.
Lawrence is a stud. That arm talent jumps off the screen. And he’s 6’5” and athletic. If he was able to declare right now he’s clearly the #1 prospect.
I don’t see those level of skills for Haskins vis-à-vis Lawrence.
Gee, why stop there? He played in front of a terrific pass blocking Oline and with very good RBs.
Oh, and the OSU laundry team rarely had to wash his uniform.
Look, I like Haskins. But there really needs to be more attention paid to his playing environment. It's been a long time since I've seen a QB in college play in such a clean pocket game after game after game.
Let me also add you can say the exact same things about Tua and Lawrence who have tons of NFL talent around them including their OL. Both will go #1 in 2020 and 2021. But for some reason people attack Haskins for it. Makes no sense.
Gee, why stop there? He played in front of a terrific pass blocking Oline and with very good RBs.
Oh, and the OSU laundry team rarely had to wash his uniform.
Look, I like Haskins. But there really needs to be more attention paid to his playing environment. It's been a long time since I've seen a QB in college play in such a clean pocket game after game after game.
So I guess he sucks because he plays on a team with talent? You’ve said this same thing over and over again. Is he somehow the first QB to ever play on a team with other NFL talent? And even if you think he is, how the hell is that an automatic negative? I’ve seen guys on here say they wouldn’t draft him until the 3rd or 4th round because of it. I mean, wtf kind of nonsense is that?
Let me save some time - I haven’t it. It just appears you have a comprehension problem.
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"Throws to a variety of future NFL receivers like Parris Campbell, KJ Hill, Terry McLaurin, and Austin Mack among others. Running backs Mike Weber and JK Dobbins have also caught 11 passes between them."
Gee, why stop there? He played in front of a terrific pass blocking Oline and with very good RBs.
Oh, and the OSU laundry team rarely had to wash his uniform.
Look, I like Haskins. But there really needs to be more attention paid to his playing environment. It's been a long time since I've seen a QB in college play in such a clean pocket game after game after game.
Let me also add you can say the exact same things about Tua and Lawrence who have tons of NFL talent around them including their OL. Both will go #1 in 2020 and 2021. But for some reason people attack Haskins for it. Makes no sense.
Yea it’s hypocritical
Let me save some time - I haven’t it. It just appears you have a comprehension problem.
You’re begging and pleading with people to “look at his playing environment”. Constantly. It’s literally the ONLY thing you ever bring up in Haskins threads. You’re obsessed with it. That’s not exactly an endorsement now, is it?
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Haskins sucks?
Let me save some time - I haven’t it. It just appears you have a comprehension problem.
You’re begging and pleading with people to “look at his playing environment”. Constantly. It’s literally the ONLY thing you ever bring up in Haskins threads. You’re obsessed with it. That’s not exactly an endorsement now, is it?
Yes, I’m begging and pleading. Good one.
I’m merely making a point that context should matter. And in this case, I think Ourlads comes up short not adding that.
The allergic reaction to criticism of Haskins is very funny. When Roethlisberger came out there was criticism about his level of competition. When Sanchez came out there was criticism about his readiness, even his own coach mentioned it at Sanchez’s press conference to declare!
There was criticism that Trubisky only started one year at UNC.
There was criticism last year about Mayfield playing in the Big12 and his size.
Criticism is a constant when discussing prospects, specifically the QB position. Why that bothers people about Haskins is truly bizarre.
They will have to move up to get him. Someone will almost certainly view Haskins as a top 5 pick, and they will jump the Giants to get him. Maybe the Giants won't care, but if they want Haskins, they better be prepared to pay to move up and draft him.
I don't get this nonsense about Haskins and busting him for what he does. Watch Dan Orlovsky break him down. Part of the reason he doesn't get hit? He watches film, identifies blitzes, and gets the protection in place. That is an amazing attribute for a 20 year old QB with fewer than 15 starts. Orlovsky also shows a great throw against Washington where they brought a blitz, he got drilled, and still threw a 20 yard strike.
The guy completed 70 percent of his passes. I don't care who he played; that is amazing. And people here do nothing but discredit him. Two years from now the same people will rip on Lawrence for something else. Here's a clue: everyone has flaws. Haskins is a stud. Deal with it.
The Giants should find a way to get him; I have no doubt he will be a franchise QB for 15 years.
Greedy Williams is good but Byron Murphy might be better and is the no.1 rated DB. Greedy is at no.2
Why? Do you think Oakland will want him?
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popular BBI opinion I think Haskins looks really good, but I think the Giants will have to move up if they want him. Unless they pick up a vet prior to the draft I think the Giants will have to take a long look at Haskins.
Why? Do you think Oakland will want him?
Not necessarily Oakland, but without a doubt a team that needs a QB will try to move up. Jacksonville seems pretty likely, Miami, Wash.. the list goes on. None of the top 5 teams definitely need a QB so they probably will try and move down a bit if the deal is good and some team will make it worthwhile.
He is not very mobile, as long as he is more mobile than Eli and Brady that is fine.
And the other point about him throwing to potential NFL WRs - that is who he will be throwing to next season - real NFL WRs.
I don't know where he will go. But whether somebody jumps the Giants to get him or not, the Giants will get somebody very good at #6.
Trade up for additional high and high ish 2nd rounders.
There are apparently 2 or 3 big DTs that 'move like linebackers' (rare) there are strong safeties that 'cover, read and take good angles vs pass deep and short', fast lbs that play football...pass rushers...
It's lined up nicely.
D and repeat 3 or 4 in a row.
Gee, why stop there? He played in front of a terrific pass blocking Oline and with very good RBs.
Oh, and the OSU laundry team rarely had to wash his uniform.
Look, I like Haskins. But there really needs to be more attention paid to his playing environment. It's been a long time since I've seen a QB in college play in such a clean pocket game after game after game.
By your logic only QBs that play for shitty teams could ever be drafted high.
He has played very well. What more could he do? Break his OLs kneecaps to shoe you how he performs with poor blocking?
I know the Giants have bigger fish to fry - I'd rather them find a QB or a trench player - but Williams is very tempting. He's mean, athletic and has tentacles for arms. Reminds me of Jalen Ramsey.
Big fan of Oliver and Jeffrey Simmons on d-line
It’s great watching guys like Chris Jones and Donald dominate Games.
I think Oliver and Simmons can be special
By your logic only QBs that play for shitty teams could ever be drafted high.
He has played very well. What more could he do? Break his OLs kneecaps to shoe you how he performs with poor blocking?
Let’s try it this way - I’m just saying be skeptical. Pump the brakes a bit. Consider everything when studying him.
Haskins is a talent - definitely. I saw him play in high school at Bullis. It’s pretty amazing how far he’s come.
But he really played in an almost too good to be true setting at OSU. The protection he got was outstanding. Whether that was because of OSU’s oline, or the average dlines in the B1G, or a combination of both, every QB in college would kill for that luxury. A luxury I believe skewed Haskins’s results. How much? I don’t know but it’s worthy of these discussions. So that’s why I bring it up.
It’s always good to see how players handle adversity. I just don’t how much Haskins truly faced to see what he has when things really get uncomfortable.
Because I can guarantee this - Haskins isn’t going to have the same luxuries in the pros he had at OSU. Not close. And I’m not sure there is ANY evidence to give us an idea how he’ll manage that...
It would allow our D to double troublesome TEs or speedy wideouts on the other side.
It would almost certainly increase our forced turnover ratio
special talent IMO in round two I would go BPA
Offensive line there will be plenty to choose from .
Go defense the rest of the way .
I would be stunned if we didn't use a 1-2 pick on the
O-line its dreadful and Soldier won't be there much
longer I assume we will take 1-2 O-line in free agency
Center Rt and RG need to be addressed .make the most of
SB and build the line for Eli's replacement in 2020 .
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popular BBI opinion I think Haskins looks really good, but I think the Giants will have to move up if they want him. Unless they pick up a vet prior to the draft I think the Giants will have to take a long look at Haskins.
They will have to move up to get him. Someone will almost certainly view Haskins as a top 5 pick, and they will jump the Giants to get him. Maybe the Giants won't care, but if they want Haskins, they better be prepared to pay to move up and draft him.
I don't get this nonsense about Haskins and busting him for what he does. Watch Dan Orlovsky break him down. Part of the reason he doesn't get hit? He watches film, identifies blitzes, and gets the protection in place. That is an amazing attribute for a 20 year old QB with fewer than 15 starts. Orlovsky also shows a great throw against Washington where they brought a blitz, he got drilled, and still threw a 20 yard strike.
The guy completed 70 percent of his passes. I don't care who he played; that is amazing. And people here do nothing but discredit him. Two years from now the same people will rip on Lawrence for something else. Here's a clue: everyone has flaws. Haskins is a stud. Deal with it.
The Giants should find a way to get him; I have no doubt he will be a franchise QB for 15 years.
Haskins accuracy is incredible imo..Haskins playing with Shep OBJ Engram and Barkley there is no doubt in my mind you’re looking at a Pro Bowl QB