Patrick Mahomes was great. The Chiefs were and are superior. I thought the Chiefs defense really stepped up and played better than they had all year. All that said... I thought Luck played poorly yesterday. It wasn't mentioned on the broadcast, so maybe I'm just being too critical. He seemed off and didn't get any criticism on the broadcast or even in the print media this morning as far as I can tell.
Rate the QB play from yesterday:
Mahomes, Goff, Dak... and a distant 4th... Luck.
Yeah, the pressure was a surprise... Colts OL had performed great all year and was a huge story line heading into the game. Credit to Bob Sutton's defense for a great plan and to the players for great execution.
He also has the worst group of pass-catchers among playoff teams.
Agree, he looked like crap and this is the reason why. He was harassed and the Colts were physically whooped up front.
Then when plays were there to be made, there were drops. Even though they were a dome squad, I thought they would respond better to the elements than the Chiefs. I was dead wrong on that one. Colts are going to be a force too I think, so I don't think this will be the last battle of these two QB'S.
Chiefs look real good.
Colts had a nice bounceback year after a great draft. They overachieved and should be content with how far they went.
Luck is a very good QB.
Hilton is good. Ebron was a bust before joining Luck. And some guy named Marlon Mack is his RB.
Give me Andrew luck any day of the week.
Wow, really? Mahomes is incapable of leading Colts to the playoffs?
Hilton is good. Ebron was a bust before joining Luck. And some guy named Marlon Mack is his RB.
Give me Andrew luck any day of the week.
That's ridiculous.
Hilton is good. Ebron was a bust before joining Luck. And some guy named Marlon Mack is his RB.
Give me Andrew luck any day of the week.
I like Luck a lot but this is a really dumb post.
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KC doesn’t make the playoffs and Luck is the league MVP.
Hilton is good. Ebron was a bust before joining Luck. And some guy named Marlon Mack is his RB.
Give me Andrew luck any day of the week.
I like Luck a lot but this is a really dumb post.
Dep026 is the king of hyperbole.. The Colts don’t make the playoffs with Mahomes a great player in his own right.. lol at that ridiculous comment
I expect them to be very good next year - but their D and even their offense isn't going to scare great teams. The Giants had them beat late in the year and should've won the game. Wasn't all that impressed with them then.
Gee, where else have I seen that?
Define “when it counted”. All of his playoff losses were on the road in cold weather, against teams that were better, including the Pats x2. I’d have to look it up but the Colts were probably never favored in any of his playoff losses. And his first 3 trips to the playoffs he took a team that had no business going and actually had some success.
He looked worse than Peyton Manning Denver Broncos edition.
He looked worse than Peyton Manning Denver Broncos edition.
You sound so dumb, consistently. You provide nothing at all, you say a guy sucks and I guess that’s it. I am an admitted Luck fan but it isn’t irrational, he’s really good player who should be even better next year.
So if thinking he’s one of the top QBs in the league makes me a fan boy, so he. It’s better than sounding like an uneducated moron.
Hilton is good. Ebron was a bust before joining Luck. And some guy named Marlon Mack is his RB.
Give me Andrew luck any day of the week.
You have some of the oddest assessments of QB play of anyone I have ever seen. I think it's fair to say this is an opinion very much in the minority of most.
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That said, WHEN has he come up big when it counted?
Define “when it counted”. All of his playoff losses were on the road in cold weather, against teams that were better, including the Pats x2. I’d have to look it up but the Colts were probably never favored in any of his playoff losses. And his first 3 trips to the playoffs he took a team that had no business going and actually had some success.
Clutch QBs win on the road in the playoffs, inclement weather included. Eli, Rodgers, Brady, Ben and so on..The excuses for Luck are selective. The Giants certainly had no “business” going.
He probably started to wear down a bit and he hadn't played a cold weather game in a long time.
He wasn't "awful" at all - Mahomes didn't do much more than he did. The difference is that the Colts defense couldn't stop Damien Williams or figure out how to cover Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill.
Luck also was victimized by several drops. Ebron had a shot at that ball in the endzone before half. Another gimmie TD was dropped near the end of the game and Hilton had one or two drops that could have been caught.
Off day - big deal. Guy is a great QB and I'd kill to have him.
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Regardless of the excuses the Luck fanboys make.
He looked worse than Peyton Manning Denver Broncos edition.
You sound so dumb, consistently. You provide nothing at all, you say a guy sucks and I guess that’s it. I am an admitted Luck fan but it isn’t irrational, he’s really good player who should be even better next year.
So if thinking he’s one of the top QBs in the league makes me a fan boy, so he. It’s better than sounding like an uneducated moron.
Yeah, bizarre, baseless arguments. Nothing but hyperbolic bullshit. Terrible poster.
By the way...
"Peyton Manning Denver Broncos Edition" (sounds like a Matchbox car or something...) was pretty fucking good for the majority of his time there. 3 of his 4 seasons as a Bronco were fantastic. So, you might want to re-think that critique.
And if the insinuation was that Luck looked like the version that threw 9 TD's and got picked off 17 times as a passenger on a defense-centric football team in his final season, that might be an even worse take.
Brutal.
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That said, WHEN has he come up big when it counted?
Define “when it counted”. All of his playoff losses were on the road in cold weather, against teams that were better, including the Pats x2. I’d have to look it up but the Colts were probably never favored in any of his playoff losses. And his first 3 trips to the playoffs he took a team that had no business going and actually had some success.
Clutch QBs win on the road in the playoffs, inclement weather included. Eli, Rodgers, Brady, Ben and so on..The excuses for Luck are selective. The Giants certainly had no “business” going.
I don’t disagree but there’s still more to it. Did the Colts pass rush show up like the Giants? Did the Colts WRs show up like Nicks/Plax?
Context is huge, and I don’t think Luck has ever had the players to get over the jump like other road underdogs.
He also has the worst group of pass-catchers among playoff teams.
Funny after a few minutes I knew my colts pick was way off based on the colts passing game, notably the receivers themselves. You just knew early on the colts had no chance in this game. The colts fixed the ol and D but they were still basically a one man show for most of the season and it came back to bite them yesterday,
He probably started to wear down a bit and he hadn't played a cold weather game in a long time.
He wasn't "awful" at all - Mahomes didn't do much more than he did. The difference is that the Colts defense couldn't stop Damien Williams or figure out how to cover Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill.
Luck also was victimized by several drops. Ebron had a shot at that ball in the endzone before half. Another gimmie TD was dropped near the end of the game and Hilton had one or two drops that could have been caught.
Off day - big deal. Guy is a great QB and I'd kill to have him.
It's hilarious. People have a really hard time grasping the concept of sample size.
Give KC credit to a degree, but Luck has to deliver more. That’s his job.
I really like him. I think it’s great he’s back. So I will focus on the entirety of the season when thinking about his year.
But, again, he didn’t deliver yesterday and deserves blame.
QB that needs a few more pieces and some help on the
O-line . He had an off game and no run game to keep
the pressure off . Question is if he is damaged goods
from the injuries . KC is a well coached team with plenty
of talent in the secondary .When your playing with onr
arm tied behind your back No run game and piss poor pass
protection playing in Arrowhead tough place to win period .
The first convincing football point you make will be the first.
Criticizing a guy for having a "shitty rotator cuff," calling people fanboys, and utilizing gross hyperbole as an argument tactic isn't how you do it.
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That said, WHEN has he come up big when it counted?
Define “when it counted”. All of his playoff losses were on the road in cold weather, against teams that were better, including the Pats x2. I’d have to look it up but the Colts were probably never favored in any of his playoff losses. And his first 3 trips to the playoffs he took a team that had no business going and actually had some success.
Clutch QBs win on the road in the playoffs, inclement weather included. Eli, Rodgers, Brady, Ben and so on..The excuses for Luck are selective. The Giants certainly had no “business” going.
I don’t disagree but there’s still more to it. Did the Colts pass rush show up like the Giants? Did the Colts WRs show up like Nicks/Plax?
Context is huge, and I don’t think Luck has ever had the players to get over the jump like other road underdogs.
Understood. Just answering your question about how I define clutch or coming up big
The comeback against KC in the playoffs in 2013 was pretty impressive. They were down 38-10 and won 45-44. He threw for 443 yards and 4 TD's that day. I'd say that's coming up big when it counts, no?
Look - one year ago, there was serious question as to whether or not Andrew Luck was ever even going to play football again. He not only played this year - but he threw nearly 40 TD passes, threw for 4500 yards, posted the best completion percentage of his career and had a season that was pretty much on par with the best one in his career to date (2014).
What he did this year was pretty damn good all things considered.
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That said, WHEN has he come up big when it counted?
The comeback against KC in the playoffs in 2013 was pretty impressive. They were down 38-10 and won 45-44. He threw for 443 yards and 4 TD's that day. I'd say that's coming up big when it counts, no?
Look - one year ago, there was serious question as to whether or not Andrew Luck was ever even going to play football again. He not only played this year - but he threw nearly 40 TD passes, threw for 4500 yards, posted the best completion percentage of his career and had a season that was pretty much on par with the best one in his career to date (2014).
What he did this year was pretty damn good all things considered.
Yes, that was big
His motion has changed - I agree. It looks like he gets to these moments where he is pushing/guiding the ball, not ripping through it. But I think he just needs more time. He's been through an extensive rehab/ My guess is he'll have more fluidity next year. But it's an interesting observation nonetheless...
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That said, WHEN has he come up big when it counted?
Define “when it counted”. All of his playoff losses were on the road in cold weather, against teams that were better, including the Pats x2. I’d have to look it up but the Colts were probably never favored in any of his playoff losses. And his first 3 trips to the playoffs he took a team that had no business going and actually had some success.
Clutch QBs win on the road in the playoffs, inclement weather included. Eli, Rodgers, Brady, Ben and so on..The excuses for Luck are selective. The Giants certainly had no “business” going.
He won in Denver, which was the two seed that year - I believe it was snowing or at least the conditions were poor, the year of deflategate.
And he won in Houston last week too.
It had to, he didn’t look like this last week.
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It looked like he was pushing the ball, he really wasn't the same QB. I wonder if the cold was affecting his shoulder.
It had to, he didn’t look like this last week.
Or throughout the season. He was a completely different QB and that was a completely different ball he was throwing. I was kind of surprised that they weren't mentioning it during the broadcast.
Probably thinking more about Rivers than Luck..🙂😊
You're right, Eli has never looked that bad.
He's looked worse - on many occasions.
Some of the people here are just so beyond clueless. It blows my fucking mind.
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People complain about Eli but he's never looked THAT bad. In fact, I wouldn't take Luck off their hands in a straight up swap for Eli right now today. He was pathetic.
You're right, Eli has never looked that bad.
He's looked worse - on many occasions.
Selective amnesia. Eli played 2 hideous playoff games, both at home - against Carolina in 2006 and the Eagles in 2008.
Less than 300 yards TOTAL, ZERO TDs and 5 INTs combined.
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People complain about Eli but he's never looked THAT bad. In fact, I wouldn't take Luck off their hands in a straight up swap for Eli right now today. He was pathetic.
You're right, Eli has never looked that bad.
He's looked worse - on many occasions.
Selective amnesia. Eli played 2 hideous playoff games, both at home - against Carolina in 2006 and the Eagles in 2008.
Less than 300 yards TOTAL, ZERO TDs and 5 INTs combined.
Eli had a worse game than Luck had yesterday as recently as like one month ago against Tennessee.
Just a mind blowing comment.
You'd think Luck turned the ball over 4 times reading this nonsense.
Yep, you got me - I'm a registered Eli "hater" and a lowlife because I called out your horseshit post.
I figure you'd maybe counter with a football point if there were any - but since there aren't and your comment was that ridiculous, you're predictably resorting to name calling.
The idea that you'd take Eli Manning over Andrew Luck in 2019 either tells me you're a troll or simply don't understand anything about football.
Instead of telling me I hate Eli or telling me I should go pound sand, maybe you should try to back up your argument with something of substance.
(You won't because it's not an argument that can be made right now. No NFL GM would agree with you. Not one.)
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Doesn’t make the playoffs...
Wow, really? Mahomes is incapable of leading Colts to the playoffs?
Well that's the luxury of relying entirely upon a hypothetical to forward an argument: you can't disprove him.
You can only counter with another hypothetical: if Mahomes were the QB of the Giants, they'd still be playing.
You can go gargle mayonnaise. Luck will never win a ring. Eli has proven that he gets the job done when given the chance. Look at the last playoff game 2016 in Green Bay where he was the only Giant to show up. You idiots go on thinking what you want. Eli has the rings. Luck is garbage.
So are your football posts.
Grow up.
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"WHAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! You don't know anything about football." LOL Give me a break you pathetic fucking loser. Go get yourself a pacifier.
Grow up.
Go pound sand in your ass
You seem like a really angry, aggressive person.
There are a lot of really great therapists out there now - there are even apps like TalkSpace that allow you to talk to someone from home using the convenience of your smart phone.
I'm not being facetious or being a dick - I'm actually being serious. I know I poked at your post first, but I invited you to actually back up your point like an adult and you doubled down on the insults.
I'm not interested in going down that road, but I do sincerely hope things get better for you.
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And hunt for the majority of the year....
He would be putting up insane number like mahomes did. Are we really arguing that Indy had better weapons around Luck than KC did with Mahomes.
Switch them and Luck would be putting up the insane numbers Mahomes did and most likely be MVP. People dismissing my opinion is fine. It’s BBI. Looking at surrounding talent is rarely done here.
Hill
Kelce
And hunt for the majority of the year....
He would be putting up insane number like mahomes did. Are we really arguing that Indy had better weapons around Luck than KC did with Mahomes.
Switch them and Luck would be putting up the insane numbers Mahomes did and most likely be MVP. People dismissing my opinion is fine. It’s BBI. Looking at surrounding talent is rarely done here.
There isn’t a single person who thinks Luck has even average weapons around him, let alone what Mahomes has. You are dismissing how good Mahomes is, which is really odd but not surprising. I remember one of his Monday night games where he wasn’t playing out of this world, and instead was average, and you were beating him down constantly.
My issues were your comments on Mahomes, not what you said about Luck.
The fact that Luck might be injured crossed my mind, more than once.
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And hunt for the majority of the year....
He would be putting up insane number like mahomes did. Are we really arguing that Indy had better weapons around Luck than KC did with Mahomes.
Switch them and Luck would be putting up the insane numbers Mahomes did and most likely be MVP. People dismissing my opinion is fine. It’s BBI. Looking at surrounding talent is rarely done here.
There isn’t a single person who thinks Luck has even average weapons around him, let alone what Mahomes has. You are dismissing how good Mahomes is, which is really odd but not surprising. I remember one of his Monday night games where he wasn’t playing out of this world, and instead was average, and you were beating him down constantly.
My issues were your comments on Mahomes, not what you said about Luck.
I am thinking Mahomes would have struggled more than people realize with less than stellar people around. And remember Indy OLine struggled to start the year. Maybe Mahomes overcomes? But I’ll play the percentages that a young QB would have taken some major lumps with what Luck endured this year.