For his run the ball, stop the run, rush the passer mantra but that’s exactly how the Pats are destroying the Chargers.
The Chargers are a really good football team and the Pats are making them look like Arizona.
The difference is BB has his teams in the playoffs every single year for almost 20 years now. Alot easier to trust a BB than a DG at this point in time.
"Lost a kid" comment? It wasn't like Mebane misplaced her at the mall or something. How about a little softer touch and say losing a child or infant?
I know it's a nit pick and he meant well but man you talk for a living and have to do better than that on such a sensitive and tragic topic IMO.
No, didn't even think of it til it was brought up. I suppose you are correct, but it was not meant in any way, shape or form to be disrespectful.
Oh no doubt about that and I never thought he meant any disrespect. I just cringed when he said it and wondered if anyone else did too and think he's gotta do better than that being a National broadcaster.
... if this showing continues in the 2nd half and the score gets even more lopsided, do the Chargers fire their coach?
They fired Schottenheimer for 14-2.
Fire Lynn for getting blown out in New England? The Schottenheimer thing was a power struggle. Not for losing in the playoffs (though Marty did lose a lot in the playoffs).
The T.O.P. right now is insane in the Pats favor. Â
For his run the ball, stop the run, rush the passer mantra but that’s exactly how the Pats are destroying the Chargers.
The Chargers are a really good football team and the Pats are making them look like Arizona.
The difference is BB has his teams in the playoffs every single year for almost 20 years now. Alot easier to trust a BB than a DG at this point in time.
Regardless, the merits of DG’s comments have proven to be valid.
... if this showing continues in the 2nd half and the score gets even more lopsided, do the Chargers fire their coach?
They fired Schottenheimer for 14-2.
Fire Lynn for getting blown out in New England? The Schottenheimer thing was a power struggle. Not for losing in the playoffs (though Marty did lose a lot in the playoffs).
I def fire the def coordinator. This is embarrassing for this team.
They get the bye and home field for an easy win over a Bolts team that’s traveled almost 7,000 miles in the past three weeks. They make their own luck and they never beat themselves. Just unbelievable.
For his run the ball, stop the run, rush the passer mantra but that’s exactly how the Pats are destroying the Chargers.
The Chargers are a really good football team and the Pats are making them look like Arizona.
The difference is BB has his teams in the playoffs every single year for almost 20 years now. Alot easier to trust a BB than a DG at this point in time.
He’s also had a team in the worst division in football for 20 years. That doesn’t tarnish the accomplishment, but I’m not sure there has been any other division in football where 3 of 4 teams are so consistently bad year in and year out.
For his run the ball, stop the run, rush the passer mantra but that’s exactly how the Pats are destroying the Chargers.
The Chargers are a really good football team and the Pats are making them look like Arizona.
The difference is BB has his teams in the playoffs every single year for almost 20 years now. Alot easier to trust a BB than a DG at this point in time.
He’s also had a team in the worst division in football for 20 years. That doesn’t tarnish the accomplishment, but I’m not sure there has been any other division in football where 3 of 4 teams are so consistently bad year in and year out.
Again, not taking anything away...the most amazingly well run team ever
Or everyone else in football is just stupid. How long have the Pats been drafting last or nearly last yet they remain stronger than the rest of the division which regularly drafts in the top 10.
Or everyone else in football is just stupid. How long have the Pats been drafting last or nearly last yet they remain stronger than the rest of the division which regularly drafts in the top 10.
The Pats are about culture first. Buy in, or someone will replace you, period.
Talent matters, but it's not the number one thing.
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lots of fantasy stats, never wins the big one, whiny bitch.
Yet the announcers are sympathizing with how it’s the rest of his teams fault
You make it sound as though that is unreasonable in this case.
Not directing this at you per se...but simple fact is, when the Chargers suck it’s everyone’s fault but Rivers.
When the Giants defense, OL, receivers, anyone else sucks - to a lot of media, fans, and plenty of posters here it’s still all Eli’s fault.
Good grief - all you have to do is go back to the Giants last playoff game when they got blown out in GB. The blame was all heaped on OBJ and the boat. Literally none to Eli (nor should there have been).
It's post-season games like this that make it hard to move on from Eli. The brain trust watches a game like this and says, "You know Eli loves these games..."
Finding the next QB after Eli is so dependent on a feeling of how they show up in big moments.
No matter our special teams statistics and how favorable they may be, I will always fear committing a mistake like that in a big spot until we have completely rinsed every trace of Tom Quinn from the special teams unit.
The sad truth is Eli's basically had two careers. The first half was great, the second half has been a complete disaster. Nothing Rivers does changes that.
Haha. I’m just trying to point out that I wasn’t using Rivers to prop up Eli , I was having an argument at work with someone on the Hall of Fame and I use playoff records to defend Eli on the hall of fame argument.
So calling me pathetic for that is... I don’t know. Childish
The sad truth is Eli's basically had two careers. The first half was great, the second half has been a complete disaster. Nothing Rivers does changes that.
just keeps rolling as long as Belichick and Brady are at the helm. They actually haven't drafted better than anyone else, but these two seem to be able to win with anyone.
No matter our special teams statistics and how favorable they may be, I will always fear committing a mistake like that in a big spot until we have completely rinsed every trace of Tom Quinn from the special teams unit.
Just so I'm clear, a returner fumbling a punt is a coach's fault! Do we blame OC's for dropped passes and DC's for missed tackles too?
For his run the ball, stop the run, rush the passer mantra but that’s exactly how the Pats are destroying the Chargers.
The Chargers are a really good football team and the Pats are making them look like Arizona.
The difference is BB has his teams in the playoffs every single year for almost 20 years now. Alot easier to trust a BB than a DG at this point in time.
Regardless, the merits of DG’s comments have proven to be valid.
The Pats are the only team in the league that do it, really.
They fired Schottenheimer for 14-2.
They fired Schottenheimer for 14-2.
They were one/done AFTER THE BYE that year.
Completely different scenario this time around
I know it's a nit pick and he meant well but man you talk for a living and have to do better than that on such a sensitive and tragic topic IMO.
No, didn't even think of it til it was brought up. I suppose you are correct, but it was not meant in any way, shape or form to be disrespectful.
The Chargers are a really good football team and the Pats are making them look like Arizona.
The Chargers are a really good football team and the Pats are making them look like Arizona.
The difference is BB has his teams in the playoffs every single year for almost 20 years now. Alot easier to trust a BB than a DG at this point in time.
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"Lost a kid" comment? It wasn't like Mebane misplaced her at the mall or something. How about a little softer touch and say losing a child or infant?
I know it's a nit pick and he meant well but man you talk for a living and have to do better than that on such a sensitive and tragic topic IMO.
No, didn't even think of it til it was brought up. I suppose you are correct, but it was not meant in any way, shape or form to be disrespectful.
Oh no doubt about that and I never thought he meant any disrespect. I just cringed when he said it and wondered if anyone else did too and think he's gotta do better than that being a National broadcaster.
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They fired Schottenheimer for 14-2.
Fire Lynn for getting blown out in New England? The Schottenheimer thing was a power struggle. Not for losing in the playoffs (though Marty did lose a lot in the playoffs).
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For his run the ball, stop the run, rush the passer mantra but that’s exactly how the Pats are destroying the Chargers.
The Chargers are a really good football team and the Pats are making them look like Arizona.
The difference is BB has his teams in the playoffs every single year for almost 20 years now. Alot easier to trust a BB than a DG at this point in time.
Regardless, the merits of DG’s comments have proven to be valid.
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... if this showing continues in the 2nd half and the score gets even more lopsided, do the Chargers fire their coach?
They fired Schottenheimer for 14-2.
Fire Lynn for getting blown out in New England? The Schottenheimer thing was a power struggle. Not for losing in the playoffs (though Marty did lose a lot in the playoffs).
I def fire the def coordinator. This is embarrassing for this team.
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For his run the ball, stop the run, rush the passer mantra but that’s exactly how the Pats are destroying the Chargers.
The Chargers are a really good football team and the Pats are making them look like Arizona.
The difference is BB has his teams in the playoffs every single year for almost 20 years now. Alot easier to trust a BB than a DG at this point in time.
He’s also had a team in the worst division in football for 20 years. That doesn’t tarnish the accomplishment, but I’m not sure there has been any other division in football where 3 of 4 teams are so consistently bad year in and year out.
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For his run the ball, stop the run, rush the passer mantra but that’s exactly how the Pats are destroying the Chargers.
The Chargers are a really good football team and the Pats are making them look like Arizona.
The difference is BB has his teams in the playoffs every single year for almost 20 years now. Alot easier to trust a BB than a DG at this point in time.
He’s also had a team in the worst division in football for 20 years. That doesn’t tarnish the accomplishment, but I’m not sure there has been any other division in football where 3 of 4 teams are so consistently bad year in and year out.
Again, not taking anything away...the most amazingly well run team ever
The Pats are about culture first. Buy in, or someone will replace you, period.
Talent matters, but it's not the number one thing.
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lots of fantasy stats, never wins the big one, whiny bitch.
Yet the announcers are sympathizing with how it’s the rest of his teams fault
You make it sound as though that is unreasonable in this case.
Not directing this at you per se...but simple fact is, when the Chargers suck it’s everyone’s fault but Rivers.
When the Giants defense, OL, receivers, anyone else sucks - to a lot of media, fans, and plenty of posters here it’s still all Eli’s fault.
Rivers - 6 appearances 5 wins 6 losses
I have people tell me Rivers should be in the HoF, and Eli should not.
Rivers - 6 appearances 5 wins 6 losses
I have people tell me Rivers should be in the HoF, and Eli should not.
That's too rich lol
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lots of fantasy stats, never wins the big one, whiny bitch.
Yet the announcers are sympathizing with how it’s the rest of his teams fault
You make it sound as though that is unreasonable in this case.
Not directing this at you per se...but simple fact is, when the Chargers suck it’s everyone’s fault but Rivers.
When the Giants defense, OL, receivers, anyone else sucks - to a lot of media, fans, and plenty of posters here it’s still all Eli’s fault.
Good grief - all you have to do is go back to the Giants last playoff game when they got blown out in GB. The blame was all heaped on OBJ and the boat. Literally none to Eli (nor should there have been).
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Eli - 6 appearances 8 wins 4 losses, 2 NFC championships, 2 SB wins, 2 SB mvps
Rivers - 6 appearances 5 wins 6 losses
I have people tell me Rivers should be in the HoF, and Eli should not.
That's too rich lol
This is assuming the Chargers lose this game today
Finding the next QB after Eli is so dependent on a feeling of how they show up in big moments.
Are you talking to me?
No matter our special teams statistics and how favorable they may be, I will always fear committing a mistake like that in a big spot until we have completely rinsed every trace of Tom Quinn from the special teams unit.
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Using Rivers to prop up Eli is pathetic.
Are you talking to me?
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Using Rivers to prop up Eli is pathetic.
Are you talking to me?
Not just you. People do it all the time.
The sad truth is Eli's basically had two careers. The first half was great, the second half has been a complete disaster. Nothing Rivers does changes that.
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Using Rivers to prop up Eli is pathetic.
Are you talking to me?
Haha. I’m just trying to point out that I wasn’t using Rivers to prop up Eli , I was having an argument at work with someone on the Hall of Fame and I use playoff records to defend Eli on the hall of fame argument.
So calling me pathetic for that is... I don’t know. Childish
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Using Rivers to prop up Eli is pathetic.
Are you talking to me?
Not just you. People do it all the time.
The sad truth is Eli's basically had two careers. The first half was great, the second half has been a complete disaster. Nothing Rivers does changes that.
That’s not what I was doing though
Uh, what? Same draft class and trade. The comparisons are inevitable and perfectly fine.
No matter our special teams statistics and how favorable they may be, I will always fear committing a mistake like that in a big spot until we have completely rinsed every trace of Tom Quinn from the special teams unit.
Just so I'm clear, a returner fumbling a punt is a coach's fault! Do we blame OC's for dropped passes and DC's for missed tackles too?
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For his run the ball, stop the run, rush the passer mantra but that’s exactly how the Pats are destroying the Chargers.
The Chargers are a really good football team and the Pats are making them look like Arizona.
The difference is BB has his teams in the playoffs every single year for almost 20 years now. Alot easier to trust a BB than a DG at this point in time.
Regardless, the merits of DG’s comments have proven to be valid.
The Pats are the only team in the league that do it, really.
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Using Rivers to prop up Eli is pathetic.
Uh, what? Same draft class and trade. The comparisons are inevitable and perfectly fine.
There are 2 glaring differences in the numbers
Rivers has thrown way less interceptions, something like 175 vs 240
And Eli has been way better in the post season
Games payed, yards, TDs. All similar.
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Using Rivers to prop up Eli is pathetic.
Uh, what? Same draft class and trade. The comparisons are inevitable and perfectly fine.
And none of it changes what Eli's career has been for the last 7 years.
I get why the comps are made, but it's not like Eli comes out looking good.