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El vs Rivers Hall of Fame

rlc2113 : 1/13/2019 3:52 pm
Why is there so much consensus that Rivers is a lock for the Hall of Fame and Eli isn't. Their numbers are virtually equal and Eli has two rings. If you watched today's game against the Patriots , you see the results of a lack of protection.Rivers looked far worse than Eli did at any time this year.
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RE: RE: RE: Rivers has an iron man streak going to....  
Bramton1 : 1/15/2019 10:30 am : link
In comment 14263773 dep026 said:
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and will probably pass Manning thanks to McAdoo.


No, thanks to Eli himself. McAdoo tried to preserve the silver-medal, position-specific streak. Eli broke it.

Unlike the fans, I'd like to believe that Eli understood he was not going to catch Favre and that neither of them actually hold the league record for consecutive games.



And Mcadoo told Webb he was starting the final 4 games. So McAdoo was ending it one way or another.


If I recall, Webb said he was told he was going to start the games. But if I also recall, Geno said he was told he was going to start games. I'm more inclined to believe the guy who actually did start a game.
Ok.... I broke down some stats  
dep026 : 1/15/2019 10:34 am : link
regarding surrounding talent and team ranks: I took the average yards per game rushing and average Points per game defensively for all 3 QBs per years they started. Rivers - 13, Eli - 14, Ben - 15.

run games
1. Ben - average rank is 15.5
2. Eli - average rank is 17.4
3. Riv - average rank is 20

Ben has had a top 10 rushing attack 4 times, top five 3 times
Eli has had a top 10 rushing attack 4 times, top five 2 times
Riv has had a top 10 rushing attack 2 times, top five 1 time

defenses
Ben - average is 7.5
Riv - average is 13
Eli - average is 19

Ben has had a top 10 defense 9 times, top 5 6 times
Riv has had a top 10 defense 5 times, top 5 2 times
Eli has had a top 10 defense 2 times, top 5 2 times

It's always been clear as day that Ben has had more talent around him than pretty much any QB in our lifetime. Rivers has had better defenses as a whole over Eli by a slim margin and Eli has had a better running game by a slim margin.

The difference why Eli has won more SBs than Rivers is because Eli has always been a better post season QB :)
RE: RE: RE: RE: Rivers has an iron man streak going to....  
dep026 : 1/15/2019 10:36 am : link
In comment 14263976 Bramton1 said:
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If I recall, Webb said he was told he was going to start the games. But if I also recall, Geno said he was told he was going to start games. I'm more inclined to believe the guy who actually did start a game.


yeah we will never know who was told what. But Webb did come out publicly and say he was going to start the last 3 games. I was wrong when I said 4 initially.
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