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Eli Apple

DC Gmen Fan : 1/13/2019 8:10 pm
Going to the NFCCG

Good for him.
Hes gotta take a shit  
j_rud : 1/13/2019 8:12 pm : link
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Good ol Eli Apple  
jnoble : 1/13/2019 8:17 pm : link
He's a holding or pass interference call waiting to happen every play
RE: Good ol Eli Apple  
Ssanders9816 : 1/13/2019 8:18 pm : link
In comment 14262078 jnoble said:
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He's a holding or pass interference call waiting to happen every play


Did he have either today? He looked solid from what I saw.
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arcarsenal : 1/13/2019 8:25 pm : link
He looked bad when he first got traded there, but he's picked up quite a bit since. He's playing well for them - good for him.

Change of scenery seemed to be necessary for him. It happens.
RE: RE: Good ol Eli Apple  
Cool Down : 1/13/2019 8:34 pm : link
In comment 14262081 Ssanders9816 said:
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In comment 14262078 jnoble said:


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He's a holding or pass interference call waiting to happen every play



Did he have either today? He looked solid from what I saw.


Change of scenery? Could be change of coaches.
whoops.  
Cool Down : 1/13/2019 8:36 pm : link
replied to wrong item.
He’s got a clean slate in the locker room  
djm : 1/13/2019 8:37 pm : link
He was playing pretty well earlier this season with nyg. Now he’s playing with much more surrounding talent and it shows. Anyone looks better with help around him.
Change of scenery sometimes  
Les in TO : 1/13/2019 8:43 pm : link
Helps. Worked out for us in 99 when we nabbed Kerry Collins and when we signed Plaxico
He's also playing  
Matt in SGS : 1/13/2019 8:45 pm : link
with several of his old Ohio State teammates. From what we've seen of Apple he is immature as hell. He acts most of the time like he wishes he was still in college. With an offense that can bail out defensive lapses, and all his friends around him, New Orleans is a perfect place for him.
The Giants got a 4th round pick for what was a top 10 pick  
GoBlue6599 : 1/13/2019 8:46 pm : link
Just 2 seasons ago .. Not to mention that team is going to the NFC Championship game so a low 4th round pick at that
Apple's play actually fits in playoffs  
Zeke's Alibi : 1/13/2019 8:49 pm : link
His problem is hes a walking penalty flag during the regular season.
Honestly  
morrison40 : 1/13/2019 8:50 pm : link
He made some plays today, as well did, as a guy named
Michael Thomas, taken AFTER Sterling Shepard
RE: He’s got a clean slate in the locker room  
Ssanders9816 : 1/13/2019 8:50 pm : link
In comment 14262116 djm said:
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He was playing pretty well earlier this season with nyg. Now he’s playing with much more surrounding talent and it shows. Anyone looks better with help around him.


New Orleans has an awful secondary though. I wouldn’t really say they are covering him up as a weakness.
RE: RE: He’s got a clean slate in the locker room  
WillVAB : 1/13/2019 8:55 pm : link
In comment 14262138 Ssanders9816 said:
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In comment 14262116 djm said:


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He was playing pretty well earlier this season with nyg. Now he’s playing with much more surrounding talent and it shows. Anyone looks better with help around him.



New Orleans has an awful secondary though. I wouldn’t really say they are covering him up as a weakness.


They have a pass rush.
RE: Good ol Eli Apple  
Vanzetti : 1/13/2019 9:27 pm : link
In comment 14262078 jnoble said:
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He's a holding or pass interference call waiting to happen every play


Sure keep beating that drum and ignore that he is an excellent coverage CB. Blanketed the Eagles today
RE: RE: Good ol Eli Apple  
jnoble : 1/13/2019 10:05 pm : link
In comment 14262221 Vanzetti said:
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In comment 14262078 jnoble said:


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He's a holding or pass interference call waiting to happen every play



Sure keep beating that drum and ignore that he is an excellent coverage CB. Blanketed the Eagles today


If he works out long term for the Saints and isn't who he was with us Ill gladly change my opinion on him
I was actually rewsing this article over the weekend  
kelsto811 : 1/13/2019 10:08 pm : link
"Saints Film Room: How the Eli Apple trade has the Saints defense back on the right track"
Link - ( New Window )
I was against the trade  
SHO'NUFF : 1/13/2019 10:21 pm : link
but whatever...
Earned quite a bit of praise from Aikman and Buck today  
Bramton1 : 1/13/2019 10:31 pm : link
in the fourth quarter after a pass breakup.

Said the change of scenery was a huge difference for him.

Let's see what happens when they win a Super Bowl and Brees announces his retirement.
He played pretty well today.  
Giant John : 1/13/2019 10:48 pm : link
Would still be with the Giants had he played that way for us.
RE: I was against the trade  
EricJ : 1/13/2019 10:55 pm : link
In comment 14262310 SHO'NUFF said:
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but whatever...


I wanted him off of this team and out of our locker room. We had Mark Haines back in the early 80s and he was one of the best corners in the league. We traded him to Denver because he was not on board and apparently was a locker room lawyer. People thought Parcells was crazy.

Apple is not a good corner and certainly is not worth the baggage. The fucking guy still needed his social justice warrior mom to speak for him up until last year.
RE: Honestly  
Deejboy : 1/14/2019 12:20 am : link
In comment 14262137 morrison40 said:
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He made some plays today, as well did, as a guy named
Michael Thomas, taken AFTER Sterling Shepard

He was also taken after Corey Coleman, Will Fuller, Josh Doctson, and Laquon Treadwell none of whom are as good as Sterling Shepard. You going to whine about that too?
RE: Earned quite a bit of praise from Aikman and Buck today  
Phil S : 1/14/2019 1:05 am : link
In comment 14262323 Bramton1 said:
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in the fourth quarter after a pass breakup.

Said the change of scenery was a huge difference for him.

Let's see what happens when they win a Super Bowl and Brees announces his retirement.


Did Aikman and Buck do the game?
Better coaching, better locker room  
Go Terps : 1/14/2019 1:11 am : link
You think Payton, Brees, Cameron Jordan are going to tolerate what he was like here? And maybe he needed to get slapped with some reality.
Bottom line  
King Quis : 1/14/2019 1:48 am : link
We were dumb for giving up on a 23 hr old.
RE: Bottom line  
Toth029 : 1/14/2019 6:17 am : link
In comment 14262427 King Quis said:
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We were dumb for giving up on a 23 hr old.

Ereck Flowers?
Wasn’t watching that closely but didn’t see much of Apple on tv  
Jimmy Googs : 1/14/2019 7:20 am : link
at all yesterday.

So I think that is a good thing for him...
He always had the physical talent  
Beer Man : 1/14/2019 7:38 am : link
to be a great CB, but he is a head case and was a cancer in the locker room. DG says he wants guys who hate losing, a guy laughing on the field after getting lite-up doesn't fit that mold.
Wasn’t he caught  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/14/2019 7:40 am : link
Tweeting or whatever last season?

A change of scenery was needed for both he and the Giants.
RE: He's also playing  
bw in dc : 1/14/2019 8:03 am : link
In comment 14262132 Matt in SGS said:
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with several of his old Ohio State teammates. From what we've seen of Apple he is immature as hell. He acts most of the time like he wishes he was still in college. With an offense that can bail out defensive lapses, and all his friends around him, New Orleans is a perfect place for him.


I like the Ohio State angle. Have cited it in the past.

And Dennis Allen has done phenomenal work with that D. Where they started the year (getting smoked by the Bucs) to where they are now is night and day.

Immature head case  
JonC : 1/14/2019 8:07 am : link
a walking penalty waiting to happen.

Don't conflate the Saints being a quality team with the concept he's more than an ok cornerback.

Addition by subtraction for NYG, task one being cleaning out the locker rooms of dolts.
RE: Better coaching, better locker room  
EricJ : 1/14/2019 8:46 am : link
In comment 14262425 Go Terps said:
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You think Payton, Brees, Cameron Jordan are going to tolerate what he was like here? And maybe he needed to get slapped with some reality.


Maybe.. but he still is only an average CB at best.
Think of it from the perspective of an immature kid  
JonC : 1/14/2019 8:49 am : link
now he's with his college buddies, he's probably much more comfortable on a daily basis, an extension of the college life they enjoyed.
great  
giantfan2000 : 1/14/2019 9:11 am : link
once again -- it seems like Gettleman 's moves on the defensive side of the ball was to change the culture ..

while on offensive side Gettleman 's moves was to improve the Offensive specifically the OL

and what happen by end of year we have a surging offense and a defense that lacked players to be effective at all

it made zero sense to follow this path -- and I am baffled why Gettleman doesn't get criticized more with his moves this year .


At 1-7  
JonC : 1/14/2019 9:13 am : link
he began to pull the plug on 2018, and start trying to pile up assets.
Eli Apple..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/14/2019 9:14 am : link
was not part of the solution here.

If you can't see that is crystal clear, I don't know what to say.

He finished the year with one of the highest QBR ratings against him. He committed a lot of penalties. Doing that on a good team is a lot more forgiving than doing it on a poor team.
I think he's the same guy, same player  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/14/2019 9:18 am : link
and I think he will be exposed. He's just not a natural CB. Watching him and Lattimore who is terrific, you can see the ball skills and anticipation ML has that Apple just lacks.
Yea I watched a lot of the Saints after he was dealt there  
Stu11 : 1/14/2019 9:23 am : link
For the most part he was garbage. Holding on every play when he wasn't getting burned. Sure he made a few plays here and there just like when he was here that made you feel there was hope(like the break-up in the 4th where he played it perfectly). We'll see how he matures, but frankly the fact that he wasn't the total immature piece of garbage he was here is why people are singing his praises. The bar is low. Its not like the guy is ever gonna be the 2nd coming of Mike Haynes. Or even Corey Webster for that matter...
I personally am waiting for him...  
Racer : 1/14/2019 9:44 am : link
...to cost NO a game in a big spot. Not rooting for that, but it's like trying to hide a terrible glove in MLB. The ball finds them.
He played well yesterday,  
Section331 : 1/14/2019 9:55 am : link
but was very uneven most of the year. He's always had the talent, but wasn't able to improve his game enough. Maybe the light has gone off for him.
RE: Eli Apple..  
GiantGrit : 1/14/2019 7:52 pm : link
In comment 14262589 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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was not part of the solution here.

If you can't see that is crystal clear, I don't know what to say.

He finished the year with one of the highest QBR ratings against him. He committed a lot of penalties. Doing that on a good team is a lot more forgiving than doing it on a poor team.


You can keep repeating it but they still won't listen.
The talent has never been the ?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/14/2019 7:53 pm : link
He's such immature as hell. And while I don't know the guy, he seems like an odd duck.
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