I hope the Giants draft a good RB

over Gallman are we going to get in the middle rounds? Probably none at all. Gallman is a very good backup NFL RB. There are much more pressing needs.

But other needs right now.

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ER
Lb
FS
Cb (depth)
Qb

All come first

Much bigger needs elsewhere

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would be good. One who can return punts.

Any of those coming out this year?

RBs are usually in abundance every year in the draft, or even in the undrafted pool.

Like Phillip Lindsay of the Broncos.

In comment 14262490 superspynyg said:

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But other needs right now. Ol ER Lb FS Cb (depth) Qb All come first

Don’t under estimate a RB.. Saquons workload is something to keep an eye on... 400 touches is a lot, how long will Barkley’s career be if he has to handle that type of workload

under contract

a breather...

In comment 14262515 GoBlue6599 said:

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In comment 14262490 superspynyg said: Quote: But other needs right now. Ol ER Lb FS Cb (depth) Qb All come first Don’t under estimate a RB.. Saquons workload is something to keep an eye on... 400 touches is a lot, how long will Barkley’s career be if he has to handle that type of workload

He will probably touch the ball more next year. Barkley is 6'0" 235lbs. He is built for this. He is going to have a 10+ career. He is not Alvin Kamara who is 5'10" 212lbs. This is a really weird thing for you to be worrying about. The more Barkley gets the ball the better.

there is ZERO chance the Giants draft a RB this year.

Martin is 24 and looked to have some potential. And then there's Perkins, who's only 25.

I'd be a bit pissed if the Giants drafted a running back in 2019.

In comment 14262527 Deejboy said:

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In comment 14262515 GoBlue6599 said: Quote: In comment 14262490 superspynyg said: Quote: But other needs right now. Ol ER Lb FS Cb (depth) Qb All come first Don’t under estimate a RB.. Saquons workload is something to keep an eye on... 400 touches is a lot, how long will Barkley’s career be if he has to handle that type of workload He will probably touch the ball more next year. Barkley is 6'0" 235lbs. He is built for this. He is going to have a 10+ career. He is not Alvin Kamara who is 5'10" 212lbs. This is a really weird thing for you to be worrying about. The more Barkley gets the ball the better.

I’m concerned about over working Barkley.. it’s not written in stone he will have 10 year career.. NFL history is not kind to RBs who get 400 touches a year.. I think going forward the Giants need to have a Robin to Saquons batman, if Gallman is that guy great but I think we need that guy

I could see Bryce Love or Mike Weber being available on day 3.

They are the kind of guys who I think would be good complements to Barkley

it tolls for thee...

Penny showed some potential there but I'd still like a bruiser #3 for GL/SY situations. Those are the carries Barkley should give to someone else.

If the Giants are going to build an old school running team (which I'm praying they are) - you need a stable.

want to give Barkley a breather, until the team actually does that.

Don't you guys remember the posts about using Gallman for an entire series being called incompetence of Shumur?

RB is the one position the Giants DON'T have to bother with. Gallman, Perkins, Robert whatzis...we're good.

In comment 14262561 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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want to give Barkley a breather, until the team actually does that. Don't you guys remember the posts about using Gallman for an entire series being called incompetence of Shumur?

Yes.. I was laughing at those comments. Then, you see Barkley breathing heavily on the sidelines while Gallman is taking his first snap.

People here dont realize that the kid also was playing his first fill NFL season which is longer than a college season. It is known that rookies sometimes hit a wall in December.

In comment 14262558 mittenedman said:

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Penny showed some potential there but I'd still like a bruiser #3 for GL/SY situations. Those are the carries Barkley should give to someone else. If the Giants are going to build an old school running team (which I'm praying they are) - you need a stable.

An underrated aspect of Barkley's game is his size. He's 230 easily.

In comment 14262562 lugnut said:

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RB is the one position the Giants DON'T have to bother with. Gallman, Perkins, Robert whatzis...we're good.

Yup - I think WR is a bigger need than RB with mid-round picks. We did OK with some depth guys behind OBJ and Shep in 2018, but could use a talent upgrade behind them.

And we need talent and depth all over the defense.

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In comment 14262561 FatMan in Charlotte said: Quote: want to give Barkley a breather, until the team actually does that. Don't you guys remember the posts about using Gallman for an entire series being called incompetence of Shumur? Yes.. I was laughing at those comments. Then, you see Barkley breathing heavily on the sidelines while Gallman is taking his first snap. People here dont realize that the kid also was playing his first fill NFL season which is longer than a college season. It is known that rookies sometimes hit a wall in December.

Don’t forget about all the hits you take when you’re getting 400 touches a season

Remember he was a 7th round pick.. I know the chances are slim but could you imagine if the Giants get lucky and can find another gem like that
Saquon and AB in the same backfield.. Scary

I'd like the Giants to get a bruising back who can help in short yardage.

Barkley, Gallman, Perkins, Martin, Pressley that seems like enough depth and all cheap to boot.

If a great value presented itself ok but I'd hope only a late draft resource like a 6th or 7th would be used.

In comment 14262561 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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want to give Barkley a breather, until the team actually does that. Don't you guys remember the posts about using Gallman for an entire series being called incompetence of Shumur?

I'd see those rants in the game threads, and just shake my head.

that'd be my guess. No sense using badly needed draft picks on a rb, when we have holes elsewhere.

We could have had him in the 3rd round, but we took Davis Webb instead. Man, Reese was really bad his last couple years.

In comment 14262515 GoBlue6599 said:

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In comment 14262490 superspynyg said: Quote: But other needs right now. Ol ER Lb FS Cb (depth) Qb All come first Don’t under estimate a RB.. Saquons workload is something to keep an eye on... 400 touches is a lot, how long will Barkley’s career be if he has to handle that type of workload

Except he didn't have 400 touches. He had 352 or 22 per game. I don't think that's excessive. Especially for a guy in the shape he's in

He was just injured and probably will miss a significant portion of next year, but he has elite speed and may be good in the return game....

We have many other issues

In comment 14262502 bw in dc said:

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RBs are usually in abundance every year in the draft, or even in the undrafted pool. Like Phillip Lindsay of the Broncos.

There isn't that much that is "usual" about Lindsay.

I like Gallman.

What is amazing, however, is that he was the ONLY other halfback on the roster for the bulk of the season. And despite that fact, he only had 51 carries.

I'm not sure I have ever seen the Giants rely on one running back like they did with Barkley in 2018. Pretty amazing.

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I like Gallman. What is amazing, however, is that he was the ONLY other halfback on the roster for the bulk of the season. And despite that fact, he only had 51 carries. I'm not sure I have ever seen the Giants rely on one running back like they did with Barkley in 2018. Pretty amazing.

And even then, Eric - how many posters were bitching during games about Barkley not being in for some plays?

In comment 14262809 Eric from BBI said:

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I like Gallman. What is amazing, however, is that he was the ONLY other halfback on the roster for the bulk of the season. And despite that fact, he only had 51 carries. I'm not sure I have ever seen the Giants rely on one running back like they did with Barkley in 2018. Pretty amazing.

Tiki had a volumnous 2005.

good now is mediocre. I liked Perkins coming out of UCLA much more than Gallman out of Clemson.

Love in the fifth would be great value IMO

In comment 14262813 dep026 said:

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In comment 14262809 Eric from BBI said: Quote: I like Gallman. What is amazing, however, is that he was the ONLY other halfback on the roster for the bulk of the season. And despite that fact, he only had 51 carries. I'm not sure I have ever seen the Giants rely on one running back like they did with Barkley in 2018. Pretty amazing. Tiki had a volumnous 2005.

Yes, but he also had Brandon Jacobs (38 carries) and Derrick Ward (35 carries) behind him. While Tiki had way more carries than Saquon, the Giants had more insurance behind him. I can't recall a season where the Giants only had two halfbacks on the roster.

we are set at RB barring injuries

And weren't concerned another team would poach him.

Also they had Penny, who carried the ball ok in a few attempts.

better than mediocre.

They are in very good shape behind Barkley.

Gallman is a very good back. He just needs to get the ball more to show it.

Penny is a converted tailback who can play there if needed.

I've never been very impressed with Paul Perkins, but he's not garbage either.

Martin looks to have some talent and could make the 53 next fall.

And adequate free agent RBs are a dime a dozen.

With so many needs elsewhere, drafting a running back this year should not even be a consideration.

In comment 14262918 Red Dog said:

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They are in very good shape behind Barkley. Gallman is a very good back. He just needs to get the ball more to show it. Penny is a converted tailback who can play there if needed. I've never been very impressed with Paul Perkins, but he's not garbage either. Martin looks to have some talent and could make the 53 next fall. And adequate free agent RBs are a dime a dozen. With so many needs elsewhere, drafting a running back this year should not even be a consideration.

Red Dog... Penny is an interesting guy. He doesn't have classic (Charles Way) fullback size, but he can block, run, and catch the ball. Maybe I'm being too much of a homer, but I liked the way he blocked people.

Perkins is a weird situation. He actually had a decent rookie season (our running game picked up at the end of 2016 with him, and he actually started that playoff game). But his sophomore season was a disaster.

Not the same as running the ball 400 times.

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In comment 14262502 bw in dc said: Quote: RBs are usually in abundance every year in the draft, or even in the undrafted pool. Like Phillip Lindsay of the Broncos. There isn't that much that is "usual" about Lindsay.

The point is supply. Lindsay is another quality RB found in any draft. That's what makes is "usual".

In comment 14262948 Zeke's Alibi said:

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Not the same as running the ball 400 times.

Agreed. He only had 261 rushes or a little over 16 per game.

he went on the practice squad, then cut. I would have liked to see him get some touches behind Barkley and Gallman.

In comment 14262500 Boatie Warrant said:

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would be good. One who can return punts. Any of those coming out this year?

Saquon does everything well, hard to think of a situation where you can replace him with a specialist as good or better.

are in good shape, but people still want to pick another in the draft?

I swear, nothing is ever good enough for some people. Or they just like to bitch and moan about EVERYTHING.

In comment 14262502 bw in dc said:

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RBs are usually in abundance every year in the draft, or even in the undrafted pool. Like Phillip Lindsay of the Broncos.

How many do you have to go through to find a Lindsay? Giants have been terrible at developing RB's since Bradshaw, so i'm not really sure what your point is.

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