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More evidence the Giants need to draft for the trenches.

Beezer : 1/14/2019 9:01 am
(Another look at why this is the clear way to go for the Giants.)

Small sample size, I suppose, but across this past weekend's four games, two things emerged as keys to victory: (1) the running game (or RB + O-line), and (2) the ability to stop the run (D-line + LB).

Combining the passing yardage total of the 4 wining teams over the weekend, they "out-passed" the losers' total 1,065-951, or an average edge per game of 266 yards to 238 yards. Nothing to write home about, and not that radical of an average difference.

Rushing yardage totals, on the others hand, looked like this: 745-205, or an average edge per game on the ground for the winners of 186 yards to just 51 yards. That's dominant going both ways for the winners.

We've got the running back for years to come, and a few pieces up front on offense, and we have a few pieces on D. After the 2018 apparent draft success, I'm looking forward to see what Gettleman comes up with this year.
Honestly, this weekend seems more about the randomness of football  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/14/2019 9:09 am : link
than a lesson on how to build a winner.

The Colts/Chiefs game featured arguably the best rushing team left in the playoffs vs a defense that was awful for 16 games.

The Colts couldn't do anything on the ground.

The Cowboys/Rams game featured a two-headed ground game by the Rams against a top 5 defense in the Cowboys.

The Cowboys got torched for almost 200 rushing yards.

Agree 100 percent  
Giantimistic : 1/14/2019 9:10 am : link
During the regular season I think you can will games and have a good season without a great running game or run defense, however playoffs are different. Especially if there is bad weather this comes more into play. I think Gettleman gets this and is going in the right direction as long as he hits on the right players.
Cowboys got torched...  
JohnG in Albany : 1/14/2019 9:17 am : link
for 273 yards rushing.

Which was fun to watch.
RE: Cowboys got torched...  
Photoguy : 1/14/2019 9:21 am : link
In comment 14262591 JohnG in Albany said:
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for 273 yards rushing.

Which was fun to watch.



That was just amazing to watch. The Rams made it look easy.
Agree 100%  
Rick in Dallas : 1/14/2019 9:29 am : link
Control the LOS on both sides of the ball. It is not rocket science!!!
Beez. While I agree with your evidence, it is INDIRECT evidence.  
Marty in Albany : 1/14/2019 9:30 am : link
The DIRECT evidence is that the many...well most of GIANTS' offensive and defensive linemen are not very good AND the is terrible. That is why they need to draft them.
Despite what I just posted, if there is a DB or LB or TE  
Marty in Albany : 1/14/2019 9:38 am : link
of superior quality available, I bow to the BPA philosophy. We need a shitload of decent players as well as stars.
Draft into the inherent strengths of the draft  
JonC : 1/14/2019 9:41 am : link
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"and the DEPTH is terrible"  
Marty in Albany : 1/14/2019 9:43 am : link
Sorry.
Drafting Flowers  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/14/2019 10:40 am : link
over Andrus Peat, who outside of him having a rough game yesterday has set this franchise back.

Peat isn't a world beater but he's able to play multiple positions on the line and is a solid, albeit unspectacular player.
RE: Cowboys got torched...  
family progtitioner : 1/14/2019 10:44 am : link
In comment 14262591 JohnG in Albany said:
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for 273 yards rushing.

Which was fun to watch.


I heard this morning that the Rams knew what the Dallas D line was up to based upon which hand was on the ground and subtle shifts they made in alignment. Great scouting played a huge part in this game
We have to careful making assumptions about causality in these stats  
.McL. : 1/14/2019 1:42 pm : link
Its has become generally accepted that teams pass to gain the lead, and they run to hold it.

So at the outset of the game, or while the game is still close, teams are more willing to throw the ball. Also a team that falls behind usually throws the ball more to catch up.

A team that gain a 2+ score advantage is likely to run the ball more to run out the clock.

These tendencies skew these statistics so that you can make the statement that in general leading causes more running, not that more running causes leading.
RE: Drafting Flowers  
Beer Man : 1/14/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14262732 McNally's_Nuts said:
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over Andrus Peat, who outside of him having a rough game yesterday has set this franchise back.

Peat isn't a world beater but he's able to play multiple positions on the line and is a solid, albeit unspectacular player.
There were a number of draft picks (whole drafts) over the last few years that have also set this franchise back.
RE: Drafting Flowers  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/14/2019 2:13 pm : link
In comment 14262732 McNally's_Nuts said:
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over Andrus Peat, who outside of him having a rough game yesterday has set this franchise back.

Peat isn't a world beater but he's able to play multiple positions on the line and is a solid, albeit unspectacular player.


For where he was drafted, it wasn't a great pick for them either. The only reason it hasn't set them back is how they hit a home run with Terron Armstead.

People complain about Pugh being a "reach" at 19. Peat at 13 is bad, and your post also doesn't contain some critical context. Namely how poorly in shape he was at the combine.
RE: Draft into the inherent strengths of the draft  
Thegratefulhead : 1/14/2019 2:38 pm : link
In comment 14262637 JonC said:
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After the first few picks.
Peat would've only been an incremental improvement over Flowers  
JonC : 1/14/2019 2:38 pm : link
not remotely worth wringing hands over.
RE: RE: Draft into the inherent strengths of the draft  
JonC : 1/14/2019 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14263154 Thegratefulhead said:
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In comment 14262637 JonC said:


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After the first few picks.


No.
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