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NFT: Knicks Chat: Kadeem Allen given 2 way deal

DanMetroMan : 1/14/2019 9:59 am
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Sources @TheAthleticNBA @WatchStadium: The Knicks are signing G League Westchester guard Kadeem Allen to a two-way NBA deal.

"Allen is known most for his defense after being named to the All-NBA G League Defensive Team last year, when he was with the Celtics affiliate. The Knicks brought him in this summer, and hes averaged 13.7 points on 46.8 percent shooting from the field with Westchester, with 5.2 rebounds and 5.7 assists in 30.7 minutes."-NYPOST
current management team  
Pep22 : 1/14/2019 10:37 am : link
does a good job hitting singles and doubles (Kornet, Trier, Vonleh etc.); Kadeem Allen could be a bunt single but a riskless move

Burke, Herzonja we no risk moves that aren't impactful either way

Knox may be more than a double (encouraging play), Robinson as well

I don't see any expiring contracts on the roster that would yield greater than a 2

At some point, they'll need to have success in landing a big fish (be it Durant or other)

They need a home run at some point  
Oscar : 1/14/2019 10:41 am : link
Durant is most likely I guess, I still dont think that will happen. The draft is a total crapshoot now, it would be nice to get the top pick but its very unlikely. Even with the worst record you have a 14% chance at the top pick compared to a 48% chance of picking outside the top four. So for me the draft is a write off, it could work out but it probably wont.

Have to hope Durant comes to NY and KP is back and better than ever. Its not impossible.
Dont rule out Kyrie  
Earl the goat : 1/14/2019 10:43 am : link
Coming here
Add in Zion or RJ or Cameron with Knox and KP and now we have a team
Cap  
DanMetroMan : 1/14/2019 10:47 am : link
stuff isn't my forte but I've read in a few spots that trading Vonleh would have no impact on how much we can offer him as a FA? If that's the case I'd be very open to moving him if we received solid value. Sixers are rumored to be interested, really doubt they are giving up Zhaire Smith but Korkmaz, Bolden and Shamet all have talent.
RE: Cap  
Pep22 : 1/14/2019 10:49 am : link
In comment 14262752 DanMetroMan said:
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stuff isn't my forte but I've read in a few spots that trading Vonleh would have no impact on how much we can offer him as a FA? If that's the case I'd be very open to moving him if we received solid value. Sixers are rumored to be interested, really doubt they are giving up Zhaire Smith but Korkmaz, Bolden and Shamet all have talent.


Korkmaz would be an attractive piece; but as you suggest I really hope to sign NV
RE: Dont rule out Kyrie  
Pep22 : 1/14/2019 10:50 am : link
In comment 14262740 Earl the goat said:
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Coming here
Add in Zion or RJ or Cameron with Knox and KP and now we have a team


Despite what he said about committing to Boston, I agree that KI is still in play for NYK
Allen's nickname is...  
Mike in St. Louis : 1/14/2019 11:22 am : link
Big Bruiser...how many penalty minutes will he rack up? do the Knicks need a designated fouler?
the Cavs picked up a win  
Enzo : 1/14/2019 11:26 am : link
If Love ever comes back maybe they can finish ahead of us.
At some point they have to start keeping pieces  
steve in ky : 1/14/2019 11:28 am : link
Vonleh might be worth trying to keep. He does a lot of things well and is still young enough to have some upside.
RE: At some point they have to start keeping pieces  
DanMetroMan : 1/14/2019 11:30 am : link
In comment 14262804 steve in ky said:
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Vonleh might be worth trying to keep. He does a lot of things well and is still young enough to have some upside.


Again, as noted unless he would hold a grudge about being traded to a championship contender there is no "upside" to not trading him. He's a FA either way. Nothing stops you from bringing him back. If you can get a solid young piece you can have that piece AND attempt to resign Vonleh.
weird little stretch of the schedule  
Enzo : 1/14/2019 11:37 am : link
Over the next 12 days they only have 4 games. And they have a ton of home games coming up. In fact, other than road games in Charlotte and Brooklyn they're home until 2/8. Good opportunity to get some practice time in I guess.
James Harden's game last night  
dep026 : 1/14/2019 11:38 am : link
is the reason people hate the NBA.
Whew  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/14/2019 11:38 am : link
was getting worried we didn't have enough guards.

Hopefully a trade is coming soon.
If  
DanMetroMan : 1/14/2019 11:40 am : link
they don't trade them both Kanter and Burke should be released after the deadline.
RE: At some point they have to start keeping pieces  
Enzo : 1/14/2019 11:40 am : link
In comment 14262804 steve in ky said:
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Vonleh might be worth trying to keep. He does a lot of things well and is still young enough to have some upside.

if you can get one high second rounder...or two unprotected second rounders from somebody for Vonleh I think you consider it. Brooklyn somehow ended up with our 2019 second rounder. I wouldn't mind getting it back considering how bad we are.
today would be a good day to make a deal  
nygiants16 : 1/14/2019 11:46 am : link
team has 1 game this week, player acquired if you keep him would get a few practices with team which is rare in the middle of the season
RE: today would be a good day to make a deal  
Enzo : 1/14/2019 11:49 am : link
In comment 14262840 nygiants16 said:
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team has 1 game this week, player acquired if you keep him would get a few practices with team which is rare in the middle of the season

any trades we make are most likely going to be about who we're sending out...not who we bring in.
Why is the Washington game  
GMEN46 : 1/14/2019 11:49 am : link
At 3:00 on a Thursday?
RE: Why is the Washington game  
nygiants16 : 1/14/2019 11:52 am : link
In comment 14262846 GMEN46 said:
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At 3:00 on a Thursday?


london
RE: Why is the Washington game  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/14/2019 11:54 am : link
In comment 14262846 GMEN46 said:
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At 3:00 on a Thursday?


They are playing in London
Need protector for Porzingas  
idiotsavant : 1/14/2019 12:16 pm : link
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RE: Cap  
TyreeHelmet : 1/14/2019 12:21 pm : link
In comment 14262752 DanMetroMan said:
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stuff isn't my forte but I've read in a few spots that trading Vonleh would have no impact on how much we can offer him as a FA? If that's the case I'd be very open to moving him if we received solid value. Sixers are rumored to be interested, really doubt they are giving up Zhaire Smith but Korkmaz, Bolden and Shamet all have talent.


Correct. Knicks do not own his bird rights. It may even help the chances of bringing him back because they won't have to renounce his rights which leaves the options of signing him with cap space ( if they strike out on big FA) or by using the MLE once they go over the cap. Not 100% on this but I believe this is the case.
Was Anybody Cut ?  
Samiam : 1/14/2019 1:36 pm : link
To make room for the new guy?
RE: Was Anybody Cut ?  
Strahan91 : 1/14/2019 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14263064 Samiam said:
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To make room for the new guy?

No, they had a two way deal to use after signing Trier to an NBA deal and waiving Baker.
"or by using the MLE once they go over the cap. "  
Enzo : 1/14/2019 1:50 pm : link
it gets tricky. If I understand it correctly, in order to sign someone this summer via cap space, you have to renounce cap holds and your exceptions...in other words, once you go under the cap to get someone, you lose the MLE. You do have the room exception, but it's smaller than the MLE.
Capela  
DanMetroMan : 1/14/2019 4:15 pm : link
out 4-6, send Enes!
RE: Capela  
Enzo : 1/14/2019 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14263314 DanMetroMan said:
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out 4-6, send Enes!

it would basically be the Melo non-deal with them all over again. They don't have expirings, so they'd have to send salary somewhere else (e.g. Brandon Knight)...but nobody is taking on that deal unless they're getting assets, which Houston doesn't really have.
Does HOU still have their 1st  
Metnut : 1/14/2019 5:59 pm : link
this year? There's a possibility the team tanks and it becomes a lottery pick. Even bigger chance they lose in the first round in the tough west and the pick doesn't make it to the 20s.
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Anakim : 1/14/2019 9:08 pm : link
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The Dallas Mavericks are escalating discussions to find a trade for point guard Dennis Smith Jr., league sources tell ESPN. Phoenix and Orlando have engaged in ongoing talks with Mavs. Smith Jr., has sat out three straight games with what team has termed a sore back.
Ny16  
Carl in CT : 1/14/2019 9:14 pm : link
Big man here says I think I was wrong on Knox. Looks like we made the right move waiving Baker over a Kornet. Thank god kid has been a small surprise.
Who  
Jon in NYC : 1/14/2019 9:14 pm : link
says no
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My trade machine  
Carl in CT : 1/14/2019 9:23 pm : link
Just spinning. What is it Jon?
Dallas  
Carl in CT : 1/14/2019 9:28 pm : link
Says no.
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