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Greg from LI : 1/14/2019 11:26 am
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Picking Josh Doctson over Michael Thomas makes me lose sleep at night.
6:45 PM · Jan 13, 2019 ·
We took Sterling Shepard  
dep026 : 1/14/2019 11:29 am : link
so this will makes us frown.
What’s wrong with Sterling Sheppard?  
GoBlue6599 : 1/14/2019 11:35 am : link
Is he better then Micheal Thomas no but he’s a pretty good WR in his own right.. Getting a Sterling Sheppard in Round 2 is nothing to frown at
Shepard is a JAG.  
GiantGolfer : 1/14/2019 11:37 am : link
Good dude but his production is easily replaceable. He won’t be re-signed here when his contract is up.
I cannot and will not ever believe you smile  
Big Blue '56 : 1/14/2019 11:37 am : link
Greg..


😜😜😜
RE: What’s wrong with Sterling Sheppard?  
dep026 : 1/14/2019 11:39 am : link
In comment 14262814 GoBlue6599 said:
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Is he better then Micheal Thomas no but he’s a pretty good WR in his own right.. Getting a Sterling Sheppard in Round 2 is nothing to frown at


Pretty good? Ehh.... thats a stretch.
RE: Shepard is a JAG.  
GoBlue6599 : 1/14/2019 11:42 am : link
In comment 14262819 GiantGolfer said:
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Good dude but his production is easily replaceable. He won’t be re-signed here when his contract is up.

Easily replaceable..Says who? You ? the guy has caught 200 balls in a supporting role the past 3 seasons let’s see how easily replaceable that is
Tim Carter and Ramsas Barden say hello
Sterling Shepard, while not the player Michael Thomas is  
Greg from LI : 1/14/2019 11:50 am : link
....is much better than Josh Doctson.
RE: RE: Shepard is a JAG.  
NoPeanutz : 1/14/2019 11:51 am : link
In comment 14262835 GoBlue6599 said:
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Good dude but his production is easily replaceable. He won’t be re-signed here when his contract is up.


Easily replaceable..Says who? You ? the guy has caught 200 balls in a supporting role the past 3 seasons let’s see how easily replaceable that is
Tim Carter and Ramsas Barden say hello

Don't forget Reuben Randle.
Great Question...  
Dnew15 : 1/14/2019 11:52 am : link
There's no doubt that Thomas > Sheppard
But is Sheppard a JAG?
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Obviously he's got OBJ who will get his. He's primarily a slot guy. I don't know if he's a JAG or not? I think SS is a free agent next year. What is his ceiling realistically?
Sterling reminds me of one my childhood favorites Ike Hilliard  
GoBlue6599 : 1/14/2019 12:05 pm : link
He is not a lead guy but he is very useful in a supporting role. I would hope the Giants will look to retain especially if they can draft a QB with a low cap number
RE: Sterling reminds me of one my childhood favorites Ike Hilliard  
NoPeanutz : 1/14/2019 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14262877 GoBlue6599 said:
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He is not a lead guy but he is very useful in a supporting role. I would hope the Giants will look to retain especially if they can draft a QB with a low cap number

Ike was first round pick, iirc. A first round pick hopefully should be a starter, not just useful.
Ike broke his neck  
Phil in LA : 1/14/2019 12:09 pm : link
in game 2 against the Jags.
RE: Shepard is a JAG.  
B in ALB : 1/14/2019 12:11 pm : link
In comment 14262819 GiantGolfer said:
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Good dude but his production is easily replaceable. He won’t be re-signed here when his contract is up.


Yeah ok. Easily replaceable? This team has a hell of a lot more personnel issues to address than Sterling Shepard.
RE: RE: Sterling reminds me of one my childhood favorites Ike Hilliard  
arcarsenal : 1/14/2019 12:15 pm : link
In comment 14262883 NoPeanutz said:
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He is not a lead guy but he is very useful in a supporting role. I would hope the Giants will look to retain especially if they can draft a QB with a low cap number


Ike was first round pick, iirc. A first round pick hopefully should be a starter, not just useful.


Ike got hurt early in his career and battled quite a few of them. Wasn't the player we envisioned, but he still carved out a really nice career and made a lot of big plays for us. Hilliard's wiggle and elusiveness was always one of my favorite aspects of his game. Getting him the ball in space on a screen and letting him do his thing.

Loved Ike.. even if he was never a star.
#25 in NFL in receiving yards (#21 for WRs)  
ZogZerg : 1/14/2019 12:15 pm : link
Isn't "just a JAG".
Give me a break with this nonsense.

He's a good player and does a great job blocking for Barkley.
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arcarsenal : 1/14/2019 12:15 pm : link
Also, fuck Brian Dawkins.
He’s OK.  
Giant John : 1/14/2019 12:16 pm : link
It exceptional for sure. Yea JAG.
RE: RE: Sterling reminds me of one my childhood favorites Ike Hilliard  
GoBlue6599 : 1/14/2019 12:17 pm : link
In comment 14262883 NoPeanutz said:
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He is not a lead guy but he is very useful in a supporting role. I would hope the Giants will look to retain especially if they can draft a QB with a low cap number and


Ike was first round pick, iirc. A first round pick hopefully should be a starter, not just useful.

Ike was a starter for us and we know he never lived up to being a top 10 pick but he was no bust and was a good football player. I still remember his TD catch in the NFC championship game
“I wanna be like Ike”
RE: We took Sterling Shepard  
UConn4523 : 1/14/2019 12:17 pm : link
In comment 14262805 dep026 said:
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so this will makes us frown.


We have no way of knowing that if the players switched teams that it wouldn't be more even value. Our coaches have done a really bad job with Shepard, IMO, so a case can be made that Thomas wouldn't look as good as he does.

Thomas is absolutely the better player, I just think the 2 teams are so far apart in offensive ability that its hard to critique.
BBI 2019:  
Mr. Bungle : 1/14/2019 12:20 pm : link
Where a thread relishing a Redskins' draft blunder almost instantly turns into bashing a productive Giants player.
I was pounding on the table  
allstarjim : 1/14/2019 12:21 pm : link
for Thomas in the 2nd round.

I thought he was the second best receiver in the 2016 draft.

However, before I pump my chest out too much, I had Corey Coleman as the top receiver. Well, the Browns did as well.
RE: BBI 2019:  
figgy2989 : 1/14/2019 12:22 pm : link
In comment 14262914 Mr. Bungle said:
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Where a thread relishing a Redskins' draft blunder almost instantly turns into bashing a productive Giants player.


Just wait until Beckham gets included in the discussion...
SS is a pro, pretty much what you're looking for in 2nd rd pick  
regulator : 1/14/2019 12:24 pm : link
as a WR, is reasonably productive, can make some big plays, blocks, hustles, good locker room guy.

He's not outsize value for a 2nd round pick (like Thomas), but if you were to re-draft 2016, I wouldn't be surprised if Shepard went right around #40 again. Obviously Thomas goes much, much higher.

With that said, he might opt to test the waters after next season because I doubt the Giants will be in a position to commit significantly more dollars to the WR position with Odell's contract on the books. We'll probably make him a fair offer, but he could well be the top WR in the FA market next season, especially because Thomas will likely sign a long-term deal with NO.
RE: RE: Shepard is a JAG.  
GoBlue6599 : 1/14/2019 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14262893 B in ALB said:
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Good dude but his production is easily replaceable. He won’t be re-signed here when his contract is up.



Yeah ok. Easily replaceable? This team has a hell of a lot more personnel issues to address than Sterling Shepard.

You didn’t know Shep is JAG easily replaceable they say I wonder if these people remember names like Ramses Barden, Travis Beckham and Tim Carter all bust WR drafted by this franchise
Didn't mean to sound like a dick  
NoPeanutz : 1/14/2019 12:28 pm : link
Ike was definitely a part of the return to offensive respectability after the 90s malaise.
I didn't remember that he was injured so early in his career.
He was just so quickly eclipsed by Toomer and Tiki.
Will always remember the first strike in 41-0.
Hilliard cut on a dime  
idiotsavant : 1/14/2019 12:29 pm : link
And had a nose for open space.

First down maker, very reliably.
Give me a WR who blocks  
GiantGrit : 1/14/2019 12:29 pm : link
like Sterling Shepard any day of the week.
SS  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 1/14/2019 12:44 pm : link
Doesn't have breakaway play making like Cruz or machine like route running and high football IQ like Steve Smith.

Absolute kind know in the nuts we didn't take a prototypical X receiver like Thomas because of Mcadoo's hair brained wco.
It's kind of fun to look back and every team is going to have  
allstarjim : 1/14/2019 1:06 pm : link
their draft regrets in every draft, every year. Even the Colts, who absolutely destroyed the 2018 draft, might be thinking, you know, instead of taking Kemeko Turay with the 20th pick in the 2nd round, perhaps we should've taken James Washington, or Carlton Davis, or maybe our own B.J. Hill.

However, an interesting thing to think about, not that it's realistic but the Giants could've taken Michael Thomas instead of Shepard with that pick and still gotten a guy who can light it up in the slot in the 5th round that year, instead of their pick of Paul Perkins...that being one Tyreek Hill.

Ironically, Hill has been more of an impact player running the ball in the NFL than Perkins has.
Doesn't really make me smile  
Go Terps : 1/14/2019 1:09 pm : link
The Redskins are incompetent and lost their starting quarterback to a horrific injury.

And they still we're two games ahead of us in the standings.
RE: Doesn't really make me smile  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/14/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14263003 Go Terps said:
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The Redskins are incompetent and lost their starting quarterback to a horrific injury.

And they still we're two games ahead of us in the standings.


When did you become Archie Bunker?
RE: Doesn't really make me smile  
arcarsenal : 1/14/2019 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14263003 Go Terps said:
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The Redskins are incompetent and lost their starting quarterback to a horrific injury.

And they still we're two games ahead of us in the standings.


Based on your posts, I get the impression you haven't smiled in like 10 years.

It's not that bad, bud. It's just football. We suck. We'll get better. We can't do anything about it as fans and no amount of anger or frustration is going to get us any closer.
look at that draft  
bluepepper : 1/14/2019 1:25 pm : link
not just Doctson. Coleman and Treadwell have been monumental busts. Be happy we got Shep in round 2.
Dude...  
Chris in Philly : 1/14/2019 1:25 pm : link
I am already smiling ear to ear today...
If Shep was on the Saints...  
x meadowlander : 1/14/2019 1:28 pm : link
...he'd be an All-Pro.

Situations matter.
RE: Doesn't really make me smile  
Big Blue '56 : 1/14/2019 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14263003 Go Terps said:
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The Redskins are incompetent and lost their starting quarterback to a horrific injury.

And they still we're two games ahead of us in the standings.


Not much of a deficit considering they started out 6-3 and we were 1-7
RE: RE: Doesn't really make me smile  
Go Terps : 1/14/2019 1:33 pm : link
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The Redskins are incompetent and lost their starting quarterback to a horrific injury.

And they still we're two games ahead of us in the standings.



When did you become Archie Bunker?


When the Giants completely went in the tank and stayed there.
RE: Give me a WR who blocks  
moze1021 : 1/14/2019 1:35 pm : link
In comment 14262938 GiantGrit said:
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like Sterling Shepard any day of the week.


Shep is underappreciated...

Last week I watched Saquon highlight reel from the year (ridiculous that the thing is like over 10 minutes long) and noticed pretty quickly that SS kept popping up over and over again making key blocks.

Someone is probably going to pay him more than Giants will, but he is hardly a miss.
RE: RE: RE: Doesn't really make me smile  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/14/2019 1:38 pm : link
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The Redskins are incompetent and lost their starting quarterback to a horrific injury.

And they still we're two games ahead of us in the standings.



When did you become Archie Bunker?



When the Giants completely went in the tank and stayed there.


I've been posting here since like 2008 but forgot my original handle and been lurking for years prior and there are a few people who's posts I take a lot of pride in reading (and you are one of them) but...

Are you seriously letting the Giants being a bad football team affect your day to day life?
RE: RE: Give me a WR who blocks  
allstarjim : 1/14/2019 1:40 pm : link
In comment 14263060 moze1021 said:
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like Sterling Shepard any day of the week.



Shep is underappreciated...

Last week I watched Saquon highlight reel from the year (ridiculous that the thing is like over 10 minutes long) and noticed pretty quickly that SS kept popping up over and over again making key blocks.

Someone is probably going to pay him more than Giants will, but he is hardly a miss.


Agreed, and CRB saying that Shep doesn't have that elite route running ability and high football IQ that Steve Smith had...um...that's pretty much exactly what Shep is.
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allstarjim : 1/14/2019 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14263073 allstarjim said:
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like Sterling Shepard any day of the week.



Shep is underappreciated...

Last week I watched Saquon highlight reel from the year (ridiculous that the thing is like over 10 minutes long) and noticed pretty quickly that SS kept popping up over and over again making key blocks.

Someone is probably going to pay him more than Giants will, but he is hardly a miss.



Agreed, and CRB saying that Shep doesn't have that elite route running ability and high football IQ that Steve Smith had...um...that's pretty much exactly what Shep is.


Except he also blocks like a maniac!
RE: RE: RE: RE: Doesn't really make me smile  
Go Terps : 1/14/2019 1:41 pm : link
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The Redskins are incompetent and lost their starting quarterback to a horrific injury.

And they still we're two games ahead of us in the standings.



When did you become Archie Bunker?



When the Giants completely went in the tank and stayed there.



I've been posting here since like 2008 but forgot my original handle and been lurking for years prior and there are a few people who's posts I take a lot of pride in reading (and you are one of them) but...

Are you seriously letting the Giants being a bad football team affect your day to day life?


Ha not at all. You think I act in real life like I post?

This is a place to talk about the Giants, and the Giants stink. That's all there is to it.
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McNally's_Nuts : 1/14/2019 1:43 pm : link
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The Redskins are incompetent and lost their starting quarterback to a horrific injury.

And they still we're two games ahead of us in the standings.



When did you become Archie Bunker?



When the Giants completely went in the tank and stayed there.



I've been posting here since like 2008 but forgot my original handle and been lurking for years prior and there are a few people who's posts I take a lot of pride in reading (and you are one of them) but...

Are you seriously letting the Giants being a bad football team affect your day to day life?



Ha not at all. You think I act in real life like I post?

This is a place to talk about the Giants, and the Giants stink. That's all there is to it.


There is only one person here who I truly believe acts like he types and that's Greg.

You? Starting to thinks so man!!!!
RE: What’s wrong with Sterling Sheppard?  
Section331 : 1/14/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14262814 GoBlue6599 said:
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Is he better then Micheal Thomas no but he’s a pretty good WR in his own right.. Getting a Sterling Sheppard in Round 2 is nothing to frown at


I like Shepard, but come on, Thomas is a top-5 WR at this point. It's not even close.
RE: RE: What’s wrong with Sterling Sheppard?  
GoBlue6599 : 1/14/2019 2:13 pm : link
In comment 14263101 Section331 said:
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Is he better then Micheal Thomas no but he’s a pretty good WR in his own right.. Getting a Sterling Sheppard in Round 2 is nothing to frown at



I like Shepard, but come on, Thomas is a top-5 WR at this point. It's not even close.

You must’ve misread my post.. I never said Sterling Sheppard is better or equal to Micheal Thomas
I love SS effort  
Dnew15 : 1/14/2019 2:32 pm : link
he's an awesome run blocking WR. I think he gives it his all when it comes to running routes and diving for balls and whatnot...but...there's something quirky about his game. He doesn't have a natural fluidity to his game that I think prevents him from being an elite slot receiver. I love him, he's an easy guy to root for...but how much is he worth?
If you had to pick just one to pay...who would you pay - SS or Landon Collins?
We wont overpay Shep  
NYG007 : 1/14/2019 2:51 pm : link
And I do not believe anyone else will either. However, his blocking for a WR is well above average. He'll come back at about double his rookie contract.
Double his rookie contract..  
Dnew15 : 1/14/2019 2:55 pm : link
A year? or total? There's a huge difference there...I'm just curious.
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