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Motley Two : 1/14/2019 8:38 pm
The baseball player. Funny discussion about players you can't forgive. Giants or Giants related moments come up quite a bit in the discussion.

Who is your one player from any sport you're just not going to forgive?
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Familia  
GmeninPSL : 1/14/2019 8:47 pm : link
of the New York Mets. I just feel like he set the tone for the entire 2015 World series when he blew the save in game one after Harvey put the Mets in the position to win the opener on the road. But of course Familia was not done blowing more games in the 2015 WS.
I could care less that he's back with the Mets in a set up role as opposed to a closing role. I don't forgive him and did not ever want to see him in a Mets uniform again !!!
Jerry Reese  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 1/14/2019 9:07 pm : link
I know I know it's not a player but I think I've gotten over everything that comes to mind tiki being a dick plax being too hard for a body guard Matt Dodge... But how Reese kept with the same fucked up approach year after year after year will always drive me fucking crazy. And Mara for letting it happen.
Trey Junkin  
Les in TO : 1/14/2019 9:10 pm : link
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Matt Dodge  
mattlawson : 1/14/2019 9:14 pm : link
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LOL  
mattlawson : 1/14/2019 9:21 pm : link
Just watched the clip. Some passion there. Loved what he said about Cousins about the Jets rumors -“that guy just SCREAMS not-a-NY athlete”
RE: Trey Junkin  
Hsilwek92 : 1/14/2019 9:37 pm : link
In comment 14263564 Les in TO said:
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He fucked up. The refs fucked up more.
That darn  
Pete in MD : 1/14/2019 9:39 pm : link
chicken fast food chain with the bright red sign.
Charles Smith  
Greg from LI : 1/14/2019 9:39 pm : link
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Dale Hunter.  
BigBlue in Keys : 1/14/2019 9:39 pm : link
We would shoot BB guns at his cards as kids.

Desean Jackson deserves all the bad things in the world as well.
Carl Pavano  
jcn56 : 1/14/2019 9:40 pm : link
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Joe Torre and his shit bullpen management  
Hsilwek92 : 1/14/2019 9:46 pm : link
in the 2003 World Series and the 2004 ALCS.

Fucking atrocious. I’ll never forgive him for that.
The Giants let up 25 unanswered points  
Oscar : 1/14/2019 9:54 pm : link
In the second half of that SF game, Trey Junkin wasn’t the problem. A loss like that is on the coaches and team leaders, not the long snapper who was out of football a week prior.
Jeff Weaver  
Greg from LI : 1/14/2019 9:56 pm : link
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RE: Matt Dodge  
Motley Two : 1/14/2019 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14263572 mattlawson said:
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I think this might be mine, just because it was so inexcusable. Like I can understand how someone could accidentally shoot themselves, but not being able to punt a ball out of bounds when you're a Professional punter...I cant wrap my head around it.
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Danny Kanell : 1/14/2019 10:02 pm : link
Kevin Brown
RE: Dale Hunter.  
Motley Two : 1/14/2019 10:06 pm : link
In comment 14263618 BigBlue in Keys said:
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We would shoot BB guns at his cards as kids.

Desean Jackson deserves all the bad things in the world as well.


I actually shattered about 3 or 4 of his game used sticks while playing street hockey. I had older cousins that worked at the old Caps Center.
You wanna blame someone for the 2010 Eagles game  
Greg from LI : 1/14/2019 10:11 pm : link
Blame Kenny Phillips. If he doesn't whiff on Celek, the Eagles almost certainly run out of time.
RE: Jeff Weaver  
Hsilwek92 : 1/14/2019 10:14 pm : link
In comment 14263643 Greg from LI said:
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God, that trade. Fucking hated trading Ted Lilly.
PJ Brown  
mfsd : 1/14/2019 10:26 pm : link
He deserves to end up like Hector Salamanca
RE: You wanna blame someone for the 2010 Eagles game  
bluepepper : 1/14/2019 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14263662 Greg from LI said:
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Blame Kenny Phillips. If he doesn't whiff on Celek, the Eagles almost certainly run out of time.

Or how about Tom Quinn for a kick return team being caught off guard by an onsides kick from a team down 2 touchdowns with 7 minutes left. Definitely don't pin that one on Dodge.
RE: Charles Smith  
BigBlue2007 : 1/14/2019 10:36 pm : link
In comment 14263617 Greg from LI said:
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I am still pissed about that. The 93 Knicks blew it. "Smith stuffed, smith stuffed again..."

Also... how they choked away the 94 Finals and the 95 Semis.
A few come to mind  
MattHofstra : 1/14/2019 11:44 pm : link
-Kevin Brown/ Javy Vazquez
-Matt Dodge
-Trey Junkin
-Charles Smith
-Dan Girardi to a lesser extent but he totally swung that whole series vs the Kings and if they win Game 1 I think they have a good chance to win the cup
I can't hate on Dodge.  
BH28 : 1/14/2019 11:53 pm : link
It was just the last fuck up in a long line of fuck ups that let the eagles win that game. Starting with Kenny Phillips missing that ridiculously easy tackle on Celek.
The entire team was to blame for that 2010 Eagles game.  
St. Jimmy : 1/15/2019 5:56 am : link
That one is on the coaching staff. They weren't an ready for an onsides kick. That game was 2003 Niners' playoff game level coaching.
'Unforgivable' conjures up David Meggett or Rae Carruth.  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/15/2019 6:23 am : link
Guys who miss field goals, drop passes, make bad snaps, or fail to punt out of bounds? Meh. Sh!t happens. Even Burress only shot himself.

Hahaha great thread  
Route 9 : 1/15/2019 6:38 am : link
Matt fucking Ryan.

Never liked him to begin with. I always thought him and the Falcons were overrated and overhyped for years around playoff time starting with 2010 the year they got pummelled by Green bay.

I typed three things about him just now but I thought twice but I didn't send it through because i knew I'd be banned right away

He will always be that loser who could've put Philly away in the divisional round almost to this day one year ago but once again he proved to choke it away.

He will always be a bag of shit who played a part in giving those Philly scumbags a Super Bowl.

It still makes me nauseous. Fuck him.
RE: Jeff Weaver  
Tuckrule : 1/15/2019 7:15 am : link
In comment 14263643 Greg from LI said:
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That’s on torre
RE: Hahaha great thread  
ATL_Giants : 1/15/2019 7:23 am : link
In comment 14263756 Route 9 said:
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Matt fucking Ryan.
He will always be a bag of shit who played a part in giving those Philly scumbags a Super Bowl.

Gotta disagree here. Ryan is a stand up guy, he's constantly supporting the community without cameras to make a show of it.
The SB was more the fault of the defense and Kyle Shanahan.
He's no bag of shit.
RE: Charles Smith  
The_Boss : 1/15/2019 8:03 am : link
In comment 14263617 Greg from LI said:
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Unless the Knicks ever turn it around and win a championship in my lifetime, I’ll take that vision of Smith getting stuffed multiple times at point blank range to the grave. That was the best Knick team in my lifetime and to have a tissue soft player like Smith essentially flush it away still irks me. The series likely goes 7. Who knows? Maybe a vintage MJ game 7 beats us anyway?
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Route 9 : 1/15/2019 8:48 am : link
That's nice and I dont mean that sarcastically. Pretty much every player does charity work. Can we keep this on the field here?

Ah, the Super Bowl. You're oddly not the first to blame his blunders on his coaches and play calling.

Except he deserves blame as well. That sack and fumble he gave up when it was 28-12 to Dante Hightower was God awful.

The RB 'whiffed' on the block but still, 3rd and 1 with 8 minutes to go in the 4th. He didnt even see it. Still should've never happened.

Game against Eagles: yup, still failed to get the ball in the endzone last year. Nothing changes. Fuck em.

I have felt..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/15/2019 8:57 am : link
terrible for Trey Junkin.

Guy comes in off the street and ends up being the fall guy for one of the moist pathetic officiating blunders ever.
By moist pathetic officiating,  
Big Blue '56 : 1/15/2019 10:06 am : link
are you infering or saying that officiating is all wet?
I find it hard to forgive  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/15/2019 10:34 am : link
anyone who was part of the Mets bullpen from 2007-2008.

Whatever could go wrong, did go wrong those two years.
RE: Joe Torre and his shit bullpen management  
Mike from SI : 1/15/2019 10:39 am : link
In comment 14263628 Hsilwek92 said:
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in the 2003 World Series and the 2004 ALCS.

Fucking atrocious. I’ll never forgive him for that.


It wasn't just the playoffs. He overused the main guys all year and then they predictably wore down in October.
Carlos Beltran  
timintey : 1/15/2019 10:49 am : link
still has the bat resting on his shoulder watching strike 3!!!
The thing that made me angriest at Torre  
Greg from LI : 1/15/2019 10:55 am : link
He works Tom Gordon like a rented mule all season long in 2004. We're talking about a 36 year old pitcher with a history of arm trouble. He then throws him in the first five games of the ACLS, including when they were up 19-8 in the ninth inning of game 3!! So Torre completely ruined him...and then, when he writes his bitchy, whiny book a few years later, he takes potshots at Gordon, saying he was pitching scared and couldn't handle pressure.

No, dipshit, you pitched him into the ground and he had nothing left.
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Route 9 : 1/15/2019 11:22 am : link
I dont know why I just dont feel bad for guys who fuck up in an important spot.

You should just be remembered as is.

I'm not saying the entire citys fanbase should go and kill that guy, but yeah, that guy's name should have a black eye for doing something stupid/big blunder at a key part of a championship game or series. Its kind of something to enjoy with the culture of being a sports fan. "Hey remember when Calloway fucked up and botched that onside kick recovery vs Minnesota?" "Why of course I do Jimmy. I wanted to shoot my TV screen over that". You dont mean it but you will always still hold them accountable.

Pointing out 16 different reasons why it's not OK to blame one guy that loss happened is kind of pointless because I guess that's just what people will still remember those guys for, and that's the way it has always been.
RE: I have felt..  
NINEster : 1/15/2019 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14263812 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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terrible for Trey Junkin.

Guy comes in off the street and ends up being the fall guy for one of the moist pathetic officiating blunders ever.


Junkin screwed up a snap in the 3rd quarter that led to a Bryant missed FG.




Agreed on Charles Smith.  
Mad Mike : 1/15/2019 5:50 pm : link
Keanu Neal's flubbed int in the playoffs against Philly last year is a tough one for me too.
Brad Richards  
rmc3981 : 1/15/2019 8:28 pm : link
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Joe Pisarcik  
Pete in CO : 1/15/2019 8:52 pm : link
...or maybe he should be thanked?
RE: Brad Richards  
MetsAreBack : 1/16/2019 5:34 pm : link
In comment 14264788 rmc3981 said:
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What did Richards do other than get old? He had some huge goals at times - capitals game 5 at the buzzer

Liked him as a person but Nash had enough chances to be better than the goalie or the opponent in the postseason and never shined. Even Gaborik fucking shined for someone else one year, Nash became a highly paid penalty killer
Armando Benitez  
Go Terps : 1/16/2019 5:38 pm : link
He couldn't have done more damage if he actually doused himself with gasoline in the bullpen.
RE: RE: I have felt..  
jcn56 : 1/16/2019 6:40 pm : link
In comment 14264665 NINEster said:
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terrible for Trey Junkin.

Guy comes in off the street and ends up being the fall guy for one of the moist pathetic officiating blunders ever.



Junkin screwed up a snap in the 3rd quarter that led to a Bryant missed FG.





He's referring to a blatant pass interference on the play that wasn't called, which the NFL would come to apologize for the following day.
Richards..  
rmc3981 : 1/17/2019 7:21 am : link
Was a no show in the SC Final's against Los Angeles and the year before, Tortarello benched him in the playoffs. So, it's not what he did, its what he didn't do.
Brian Dawkins  
Jimmy Googs : 1/17/2019 7:50 am : link
and Reggie Miller
Oh, read this wrong.  
Jimmy Googs : 1/17/2019 7:52 am : link
Those two guys I just hate.

Relative to not forgiving I would have to go with Matt Dodge...
RE: RE: You wanna blame someone for the 2010 Eagles game  
rsjem1979 : 1/17/2019 8:37 am : link
In comment 14263680 bluepepper said:
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Blame Kenny Phillips. If he doesn't whiff on Celek, the Eagles almost certainly run out of time.


Or how about Tom Quinn for a kick return team being caught off guard by an onsides kick from a team down 2 touchdowns with 7 minutes left. Definitely don't pin that one on Dodge.


I hold everyone on the coaching staff responsible for that, all the way up to Coughlin. "Watch the onside kick" should have been a given.

There wasn't a Giant within 5 yards of the recovery, totally unprepared as a unit.
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