NFT: Yankees thread

comments are fair that if the rumored offer for Machado is really what it out there, then the Yankees should re-engage, but it is like a pile-on that ownership doesn't want to spend.

Somebody needs to tell Stanton how cheap the team is....

And the Yankees would (seem to) be on firmer ground if the Sox hadn't spent their way to a Series win last year. If they see the luxury tax as a virtual cap, understandable. But they're making record revenues and spending less as a percentage of that on salaries, with absolutely none of that savings passed on to the consumer, so I think some of the criticism is justified.

but it's not just the Yankees. There's a bigger issue here. The Cubs are doing the same thing. Their fans are just as surprised and pissed off that the checkbook is closed.

Boras used to always be able to find his one dumber owner but who is that owner now? With so much money being spent on analytics and so much bad history with long terms contracts maybe there isn't a dumb owner left?

Of course that still doesn't really explain the lack of interest in Machado and Harper at 26 years old by almost all of MLB. So I think there's some other factors at work among the owners too and that's going to lead to a long strike in a few years.

The Players Association is weaker than any time in MLB since Marvin Miller got involved they've mismanaged the latest CBA.

I think there are 2 or 3 years left before it's up for renewal.

In comment 14266159 Dunedin81 said:

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where I start geeking out over the coming minor league season. As with last year, which was a very good year for arms, they have a glut of pitchers with legit MLB ceilings fighting for 5-7 starter or piggyback jobs in Charleston, which is a fun problem to have.

Geek away!!! We all benefit from that :)

Yankees/Phillies (respectively) feel inevitable, like the Sox did last year. May wait until the last minute to close the deal.

In comment 14266322 Heisenberg said:

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Yankees/Phillies (respectively) feel inevitable, like the Sox did last year. May wait until the last minute to close the deal.

I think the Yankees have moved on from Machado. Don't see them making an official offer at this point.

In comment 14266322 Heisenberg said:

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Yankees/Phillies (respectively) feel inevitable, like the Sox did last year. May wait until the last minute to close the deal.

How do the Yanks and Phillies feel inevitable? If anything, NYY specifically, I get the sense that Cashman isn’t lurking in the weeds like he was with Teixiera back in 2008/2009. Unless he inks Ottavino for the bullpen, I honestly think they’re all done reshaping the roster for 2019.

Rumors also abound that neither player, Harper nor Manny, really wants to go to Philadelphia. And, really, who can blame them?

It just seems like that's how it will turn out to me.

In comment 14266351 The_Boss said:

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In comment 14266322 Heisenberg said: Quote: Yankees/Phillies (respectively) feel inevitable, like the Sox did last year. May wait until the last minute to close the deal. How do the Yanks and Phillies feel inevitable? If anything, NYY specifically, I get the sense that Cashman isn’t lurking in the weeds like he was with Teixiera back in 2008/2009. Unless he inks Ottavino for the bullpen, I honestly think they’re all done reshaping the roster for 2019. Rumors also abound that neither player, Harper nor Manny, really wants to go to Philadelphia. And, really, who can blame them?

There was virtually nobody in 2008/9 that had a sense Cashman was lurking in the weeds on Teixeira. That's kind of the thing about lurking in the weeds, when it's done correctly.

In comment 14266165 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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every Yankee thread these days devolve into the claims that the team is cheap and unwilling to spend? It literally ends up dominating the discussion.

I was the guilty party this time, but the reported lowball offer to Machado set me off. (Naturally, it was likely fake news; I'm gullible.) As others stated more articulately, the fans will have a somewhat legitimate beef if the Yanks don't ink any more FAs due to: rising revenues, high prices to the fans (savings not being passed on to consumer), and what looks like an unwillingness to dip into the bank to put the team over the top.

In comment 14266570 bigbluehoya said:

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In comment 14266351 The_Boss said: Quote: In comment 14266322 Heisenberg said: Quote: Yankees/Phillies (respectively) feel inevitable, like the Sox did last year. May wait until the last minute to close the deal. How do the Yanks and Phillies feel inevitable? If anything, NYY specifically, I get the sense that Cashman isn’t lurking in the weeds like he was with Teixiera back in 2008/2009. Unless he inks Ottavino for the bullpen, I honestly think they’re all done reshaping the roster for 2019. Rumors also abound that neither player, Harper nor Manny, really wants to go to Philadelphia. And, really, who can blame them? There was virtually nobody in 2008/9 that had a sense Cashman was lurking in the weeds on Teixeira. That's kind of the thing about lurking in the weeds, when it's done correctly.

Only that was 10 years ago & Hal approved of it because George didn't have long to live & Hal wanted one last championship for his Dad. Not sure Hal has that type of motivation to move the needle. But,yes,I hope he proves me wrong!

as it relates to Teixeira is that back then the Yankees traded for Nick Swisher during the same offseason to fill the hole at first left by Giambi's contract expiring. Swisher had played in the outfield as well but given the Yankees already had Damon, Matsui, Melky, Gardner and Nady so it was widely assumed that he was acquired to play first.

They key difference is what TheMick points out but it certainly felt similarly to the Yankees signing Tulo and LeMahieu this offseason.