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Cody Parkey and Today Show Fallout

Essex : 1/15/2019 9:34 am
Has anyone seen how the city of Chicago has gone nuts because this guy went on the Today show. Admittedly, I do not know every detail, but what is the big deal? It's ok for the fans to give him death threats, stage kicking contests, etc, but he has to stay in a room and lock himself inside. He can't let the world know that he is doing just fine in the face of this entire city coming down on him?

To make matters worse, it seems that the coach and the GM have joined the pitchfork gang. Nagy, who coached a terrible game and won a meaningless game to get the Eagles to his building, said his action is a "me" thing and not a "we" thing (also maybe Nagy should have cut him earlier in the season when he was performing poorly). I just don't get how six days after the season is over, going on a show is selfish? I think I am in the minority on this one, but I wouldn't be upset if a Giants kicker did it. The game is over and the season is over, why would I care where he goes in the off season to explain his season?
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/15/2019 9:35 am : link
I found it extremely odd that the guy is already on a PR tour. Just lay low for a couple of months.
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Jints in Carolina : 1/15/2019 9:36 am : link
In comment 14263855 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I found it extremely odd that the guy is already on a PR tour. Just lay low for a couple of months.


I agree...I mean it is his right to do whatever he wants, but the optics are bad.
I heard Nagy's comments...  
BillKo : 1/15/2019 9:38 am : link
...I was like "WTF". If you want to cut the guy, just do it already. What exactly did he do wrong by going on a TV show?

Maybe Nagy should take some responsibility for carrying Parkey on the team? Maybe the head coach let the team down, huh?

Nagy acts like a douche on the sideline......not a fan.
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Essex : 1/15/2019 9:39 am : link
In comment 14263855 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I found it extremely odd that the guy is already on a PR tour. Just lay low for a couple of months.

It was not a PR tour, it was one show. And, I might agree with you if the city of Chicago actually treated him like a human being. They basically put Bartman underground for life after what he did. The city of Chicago gets a good reputation, but in the end its just a small level above Philly.
Put it this way.  
Beezer : 1/15/2019 9:39 am : link
Rosas misses that kick. Giants eliminated at home.

A week later Rosas is on morning talk shows.

BBI reacts ... how?
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BillKo : 1/15/2019 9:41 am : link
In comment 14263868 Essex said:
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I found it extremely odd that the guy is already on a PR tour. Just lay low for a couple of months.


It was not a PR tour, it was one show. And, I might agree with you if the city of Chicago actually treated him like a human being. They basically put Bartman underground for life after what he did. The city of Chicago gets a good reputation, but in the end its just a small level above Philly.


Was just about to write something like this.

I totally agree..............esp about Bartman.
RE: I heard Nagy's comments...  
Essex : 1/15/2019 9:41 am : link
In comment 14263866 BillKo said:
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...I was like "WTF". If you want to cut the guy, just do it already. What exactly did he do wrong by going on a TV show?

Maybe Nagy should take some responsibility for carrying Parkey on the team? Maybe the head coach let the team down, huh?

Nagy acts like a douche on the sideline......not a fan.

It was funny, I knew Chicago was up in arms about it last Friday when he did it, but usually fans are not something I would make a thread about because so many act irrationally (inclduding myself). But, when the head coach basically agreed with the mob, that drove me insane, especially since he coached a terrible game and kept the guy all season even though he had the second worst kicking record in the league.

RE: Put it this way.  
BillKo : 1/15/2019 9:42 am : link
In comment 14263871 Beezer said:
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Rosas misses that kick. Giants eliminated at home.

A week later Rosas is on morning talk shows.

BBI reacts ... how?


Well, it's one show.

And who would care? I know I wouldn't.

I'd be pissed he missed the kick, but what the guy does after that.....who cares?
RE: RE: Put it this way.  
Essex : 1/15/2019 9:43 am : link
In comment 14263879 BillKo said:
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Rosas misses that kick. Giants eliminated at home.

A week later Rosas is on morning talk shows.

BBI reacts ... how?



Well, it's one show.

And who would care? I know I wouldn't.

I'd be pissed he missed the kick, but what the guy does after that.....who cares?

exactly, I would be pissed he missed the kick, but why would I care if he takes a rooftop bus tour through lower manhattan with a sign saying I am ok! The kick is what matters to me
I agree that Bartman was treated viciously.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/15/2019 9:44 am : link
If you ever saw that 30 for 30 on that game, I'm shocked he made it out of Wrigley alive. I felt horrible for the guy.

As for Parker, he f*cked up. And the thing is, I don't really blame him. He sucked all season long. Blame goes to their GM Pace & Nagy. They should have replaced him.
RE: RE: I heard Nagy's comments...  
BillKo : 1/15/2019 9:44 am : link
In comment 14263877 Essex said:
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...I was like "WTF". If you want to cut the guy, just do it already. What exactly did he do wrong by going on a TV show?

Maybe Nagy should take some responsibility for carrying Parkey on the team? Maybe the head coach let the team down, huh?

Nagy acts like a douche on the sideline......not a fan.


It was funny, I knew Chicago was up in arms about it last Friday when he did it, but usually fans are not something I would make a thread about because so many act irrationally (inclduding myself). But, when the head coach basically agreed with the mob, that drove me insane, especially since he coached a terrible game and kept the guy all season even though he had the second worst kicking record in the league.


If Nagy has a problem, he should bite his tongue.

Cut the guy, which is certainly deserving.

End of story.

But, you can see just how Nagy carries himself on the sideline he's got issues..............
I remember when Tynes was on Letterman  
Jints in Carolina : 1/15/2019 9:44 am : link
after he kicked us into the Super Bowl in 08...He said he'd have to walk back to NJ if he had missed another FG.
He's getting bad advice  
since1925 : 1/15/2019 9:49 am : link
He needs to drop out of site until next summer. He is not a recognizable face, he needs to keep it that way. And for good measure, stay the hell out of Chitown.
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allstarjim : 1/15/2019 9:50 am : link
In comment 14263868 Essex said:
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I found it extremely odd that the guy is already on a PR tour. Just lay low for a couple of months.


It was not a PR tour, it was one show. And, I might agree with you if the city of Chicago actually treated him like a human being. They basically put Bartman underground for life after what he did. The city of Chicago gets a good reputation, but in the end its just a small level above Philly.


Agree! I don't see anything wrong with this. And further, I do think it's a good thing for people to see someone deal with failure in a positive way. And not just failure, but a failure in front of millions. I think more people need to know that you can deal with failure that way, and move on and be a positive person.
He's trying to save face.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/15/2019 9:51 am : link
The Bears are going to cut him anyway. He knows that.
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BillKo : 1/15/2019 9:53 am : link
In comment 14263900 allstarjim said:
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I found it extremely odd that the guy is already on a PR tour. Just lay low for a couple of months.


It was not a PR tour, it was one show. And, I might agree with you if the city of Chicago actually treated him like a human being. They basically put Bartman underground for life after what he did. The city of Chicago gets a good reputation, but in the end its just a small level above Philly.



Agree! I don't see anything wrong with this. And further, I do think it's a good thing for people to see someone deal with failure in a positive way. And not just failure, but a failure in front of millions. I think more people need to know that you can deal with failure that way, and move on and be a positive person.


It's probably therapeutic for the guy for crying out loud.......
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allstarjim : 1/15/2019 9:53 am : link
In comment 14263886 BillKo said:
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...I was like "WTF". If you want to cut the guy, just do it already. What exactly did he do wrong by going on a TV show?

Maybe Nagy should take some responsibility for carrying Parkey on the team? Maybe the head coach let the team down, huh?

Nagy acts like a douche on the sideline......not a fan.


It was funny, I knew Chicago was up in arms about it last Friday when he did it, but usually fans are not something I would make a thread about because so many act irrationally (inclduding myself). But, when the head coach basically agreed with the mob, that drove me insane, especially since he coached a terrible game and kept the guy all season even though he had the second worst kicking record in the league.




If Nagy has a problem, he should bite his tongue.

Cut the guy, which is certainly deserving.

End of story.

But, you can see just how Nagy carries himself on the sideline he's got issues..............


I don't think there's any chance Parkey was returning to the Bears, even before the TV show. Nagy stuck with him when he had the 4 FG miss game, so it's his fault. Anyhow, everyone knows Parkey isn't returning to the Bears, so Nagy should stfu about it. Let the man live his life, and if wants to talk about it on a TV show, good for him.
RE: He's trying to save face.  
Jints in Carolina : 1/15/2019 9:53 am : link
In comment 14263903 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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The Bears are going to cut him anyway. He knows that.


9 million guaranteed and a smoke show for a wife....he's winning
The Kick was blocked  
blueblood : 1/15/2019 9:55 am : link
apparently Chicago is unaware of that.
If I'm Nagy...  
bw in dc : 1/15/2019 9:59 am : link
I'm loving this. It keeps the blame spotlight off me for calling a dismal game. So if I'm him, I STFU and enjoy the re-direction.

Parkey missed a GW FG at the gun. That definitely sticks out.

However, where was the vaunted Bears D when they needed to make a stop on that go-ahead TD drive by Philly? Invisible.
You can expect the average fan to be turned off  
Chris684 : 1/15/2019 10:03 am : link
by Parkey going on a show. That's just the nature of being a fan and as it relates to Parkey's career, whatever fans think of that is ultimately meaningless.

The coach, however? I think Nagy is a fool for getting on the guy. You can argue Nagy's comments are not "we" by basically singling out Parkey for a TV appearance after a loss. Sounds to me like he's blaming his kicker.

Totally off base. Nagy had a bad week himself anyway.
RE: The Kick was blocked  
BamaBlue : 1/15/2019 10:07 am : link
In comment 14263911 blueblood said:
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apparently Chicago is unaware of that.


This seems to get lost in hyperbol... the guy didn't just 'miss' the kick. It was blocked. I'm surprised they haven't looked at who missed their block!?
It's not like he's out there pounding his chest  
bradshaw44 : 1/15/2019 10:14 am : link
that he's proud of missing the kick, or even making excuses. Good lord. He's trying to show he's remaining strong in the face of adversity and maybe trying to give confidence to people that are facing trivial problems in their life and helping to show them that staying strong is not a bad thing.

the Today show appearance gives  
bluepepper : 1/15/2019 10:42 am : link
people an excuse to rage at him without looking like they're just mad about the missed FG. It's BS.

Chicago can be really low class at times. The Bartman stuff was a disgrace.
RE: The Kick was blocked  
Leg of Theismann : 1/15/2019 10:44 am : link
In comment 14263911 blueblood said:
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apparently Chicago is unaware of that.


Exactly!!!! And actually almost no one on this thread has mentioned that either. It has gotten lost in all the noise, but it is an EXTREMELY important fact. The kick was blocked, so all of this is irrelevant!
It would be  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/15/2019 10:48 am : link
like if Jay Feely had went on the NYC shows right after missing those THREE kicks against the Seahawks in 2005.
RE: RE: The Kick was blocked  
rebel yell : 1/15/2019 11:04 am : link
In comment 14263998 Leg of Theismann said:
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apparently Chicago is unaware of that.



Exactly!!!! And actually almost no one on this thread has mentioned that either. It has gotten lost in all the noise, but it is an EXTREMELY important fact. The kick was blocked, so all of this is irrelevant!

And it appeared there was a very high probability it was going through the uprights had it not been tipped.
WTF is wrong with fans?  
Mike from Ohio : 1/15/2019 11:12 am : link
The guys is a shifty kicker who missed a kick. He didn’t take a bribe to miss it and he didn’t flip off the crowd after he missed. The guy tried to do his job and blew it. He doesn’t need to hide anymore than Nagy or Kalil Mack should.

If you are worked up about a kicker missing a field goal and think he should lay low until it blows over, you are the one with the problem, not the kicker.
RE: RE: RE: The Kick was blocked  
allstarjim : 1/15/2019 11:15 am : link
In comment 14264029 rebel yell said:
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apparently Chicago is unaware of that.



Exactly!!!! And actually almost no one on this thread has mentioned that either. It has gotten lost in all the noise, but it is an EXTREMELY important fact. The kick was blocked, so all of this is irrelevant!


And it appeared there was a very high probability it was going through the uprights had it not been tipped.


That really isn't how I saw it. From what I saw, the ball didn't really appear to change direction. I'm sure it affected the trajectory somewhat, fine. And there's no way of knowing if the kick would've made it through the upright had the ball not been touched, but the main point is, that was a low trajectory kick for a 43-yarder. Treyvon Hester didn't get up very high, nor get deep into the backfield. It was only touched because it was a poor kick from Parkey. I'm on his side for the way he's handled it, but to me the play wasn't so much of a great play by Hester but a very poor kick on Parkey's part. Ball shouldn't have been able to be blocked by Hester in the first place.
RE: If I'm Nagy...  
lax counsel : 1/15/2019 11:59 am : link
In comment 14263919 bw in dc said:
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I'm loving this. It keeps the blame spotlight off me for calling a dismal game. So if I'm him, I STFU and enjoy the re-direction.

Parkey missed a GW FG at the gun. That definitely sticks out.

However, where was the vaunted Bears D when they needed to make a stop on that go-ahead TD drive by Philly? Invisible.


That's exactly my thoughts. Yup, Parkey missed a field goal that an NFL kicker should make. However, the D allowed the GW drive with minimal resistance. The saints shut out the Eagles after they woke up.
After two misses if Tynes had missed again we would  
wgenesis123 : 1/15/2019 12:18 pm : link
still have angry threads on it today. I wonder if Bills fans still hold a grudge over "Wide Right".
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Ssanders9816 : 1/15/2019 12:22 pm : link
In comment 14263935 BamaBlue said:
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apparently Chicago is unaware of that.



This seems to get lost in hyperbol... the guy didn't just 'miss' the kick. It was blocked. I'm surprised they haven't looked at who missed their block!?


Someone here said it was still his fault because the trajectory was too low.
Rex Ryan rips Parkey  
Stan in LA : 1/15/2019 12:26 pm : link
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Make the damn kick! - ( New Window )
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Essex : 1/15/2019 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14264178 Ssanders9816 said:
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apparently Chicago is unaware of that.



This seems to get lost in hyperbol... the guy didn't just 'miss' the kick. It was blocked. I'm surprised they haven't looked at who missed their block!?



Someone here said it was still his fault because the trajectory was too low.

To me, whether it was his fault he missed the kick is really besides the point. Even assuming it was his fault, cut the kicker. Don't join the mob in labeling him a "selfish" player because he went on a tv show six days after the kick and when the season was over. Just say, he can do what he wants to do and leave it at that. Nagy's public criticism seemed to show a lack of leadership and as others said it was probably to divert the attention from his list of errors.
RE: After two misses if Tynes had missed again we would  
Essex : 1/15/2019 12:30 pm : link
In comment 14264176 wgenesis123 said:
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still have angry threads on it today. I wonder if Bills fans still hold a grudge over "Wide Right".

Bears fans can be mad at Codey Parkey all they want for as long as they want imo. My issue is not that they are upset that he missed the field goal, its that they want him to act a certain way a week after he missed the field goal. He is a human being and can go on TV to say that "life goes on."
It was  
mdthedream : 1/15/2019 2:08 pm : link
blocked so who cares. He did not miss the kick.
Why is nobody in Chicago upset with Kalil Mack  
Mike from Ohio : 1/15/2019 2:50 pm : link
and the defense? They spent a huge sum of money to bring in Mack to get that defense to the next level, and when they needed one stop to win a playoff game, the defense got pushed down the field. That wasn't one play, it was a number of plays where your marquis player and his until failed in the biggest moment they had.

Parkey missed the kick, but the Bears lost that game as a team. The Bears needed a defensive stop to win and their defense simply wasn't up to the challenge.
Bad look for Nagy and the GM most of all  
jcn56 : 1/15/2019 3:04 pm : link
You're not keeping Parkey - and even if you were, there'd be little to be gained by publicly airing your displeasure over how he spends his free time. You're unhappy? Call the guy and let him have it, or get him into your office and rip him a new one.

That one just screamed 'hey, it's not my fault that guy missed a kick!'.
RE: It was  
allstarjim : 1/15/2019 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14264363 mdthedream said:
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blocked so who cares. He did not miss the kick.


A good kick by Parkey doesn't get blocked, so he actually did miss the kick, whether or not it was blocked.
Damn. If his wife’s cans are real, that is impressive.  
Boy Cord : 1/15/2019 4:04 pm : link
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RE: RE: The Kick was blocked  
NINEster : 1/15/2019 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14263998 Leg of Theismann said:
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apparently Chicago is unaware of that.



Exactly!!!! And actually almost no one on this thread has mentioned that either. It has gotten lost in all the noise, but it is an EXTREMELY important fact. The kick was blocked, so all of this is irrelevant!


The drop kick could be extremely valuable in these situations. Unblockable.
The kicker's job  
Mike from Ohio : 1/15/2019 4:37 pm : link
is to get the kick elevated quickly so that it doesn't get blocked. If there is penetration and someone gets into the backfield to block it, that is not the kicker's fault. But having it tipped by a guy who is blocked out and just jumping? That is on the kicker.

The Bears lost as a unit. They were badly coached, their defense failed in the biggest moment of the season, and then the kicker missed a kick that he should have made. Not sure why fans want to just put the blame on the last failure instead of all of them.
I  
holmancomedown : 1/15/2019 7:40 pm : link
Always felt Matt dodge should have went on dr. Phil . 😂
What do you expect from a town  
jeff57 : 1/15/2019 8:29 pm : link
That cruxified Steve Bartman for years.
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