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NFT: Ex-Yankee great John Wetteland charged with child sex

DanMetroMan : 1/15/2019 12:27 pm
Wetteland, 52, is accused of continuously sexually abusing a child under the age of 14, according to Denton County jail records. The Trophy Club resident posted $25,000 bond.

A long-time born-again Christian, he has coached baseball and taught Bible studies at Liberty Christian School in Argyle, but apparently has no connection to the school at this time. School officials did not immediately return requests for background.



(Man these old players are real scumbags aren't they. Curtis, Dykstra etc)
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RE: I really hate when you do this shit, Dan  
UConn4523 : 1/15/2019 12:54 pm : link
In comment 14264195 Greg from LI said:
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The headline for the linked story is "Texas Rangers Hall of Fame pitcher John Wetteland arrested on child sex abuse charge", but you felt the need to change it to "ex-Yankee"? Wetteland played 12 seasons in the major leagues, only two of them as a Yankee.


Haha, man you really don't like if a bad word is uttered about the Yanks. He was an ex--Yankee, the OP isn't wrong. Getting mad at that when you can use your time to be mad at Wetteland is just weird.
RE: I'm kind of surprised he's in the Rangers' Hall of Fame  
DanMetroMan : 1/15/2019 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14264238 Matt in SGS said:
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It's not like they have a rich history or anything, I know, but he only pitched there for 4 seasons. Yes, he was an All Star there for a couple of them, and he did put up good numbers as far as saves go. But he did what exactly? Led the Rangers to the playoffs where the Yankees bounced them? Seems like a low bar to get into their Hall of Fame.


Some of these teams "care less" than others. I mean Nick Collison is having his number retired by OKC. I realize he's like an original member of the team or something but c'mon.
RE: Billy  
Mad Mike : 1/15/2019 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14264227 DanMetroMan said:
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Wagner should make it. Maybe he won't but he belongs. His career was pretty amazing. Retired while still great too.

It's pretty clear he's not making it. (At least not on the main ballot. Post-Baines, who knows who'll make it through the veterans committee).
RE: Wow.....the number of ex-Yankees  
Matt in SGS : 1/15/2019 12:56 pm : link
In comment 14264234 Tesla said:
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who turned out to be pedophiles in recent years is fucking crazy. Wetteland, Chad Curtis, Mel Hall, and Luis Polonia. Really insane!!!


The Mel Hall story was crazy. Everyone kind of "knew" but sometimes things are so blatant that people don't know what to do.
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.  
DanMetroMan : 1/15/2019 12:56 pm : link
""I am thrilled that Nick Collison will be the first Thunder player to have their number retired in Oklahoma City," Thunder chairman Clayton I. Bennett said. "He has cemented himself as part of the fabric of this community and our organization by setting an example of commitment, hard work and authenticity. Congratulations, Nick."

Collison retired in May after spending his entire career with the Thunder franchise. He was selected by the Seattle SuperSonics 12th overall out of Kansas in the 2003 draft. The Sonics relocated to Oklahoma City for the 2008-09 season."

Kinda cheapens things if you ask me but all teams are different
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RE: Wow.....the number of ex-Yankees  
Deejboy : 1/15/2019 12:58 pm : link
In comment 14264234 Tesla said:
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who turned out to be pedophiles in recent years is fucking crazy. Wetteland, Chad Curtis, Mel Hall, and Luis Polonia. Really insane!!!

They are ex-baseball players who have played for a number of different teams. Why do you have to make it about the Yankees? Don't be dumb.
If a pedophile played so much as an inning  
UConn4523 : 1/15/2019 1:00 pm : link
with another team DO NOT associate them with the Yankees!

haha, I clicked on this expecting to be disgusted and feel weird that I'm now laughing.
Shocking  
rsjem1979 : 1/15/2019 1:01 pm : link
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A long-time born-again Christian
Under 14! Holy hell.  
Heisenberg : 1/15/2019 1:05 pm : link
Rot in jail, creep.
RE: Shocking  
Rocky369 : 1/15/2019 1:09 pm : link
In comment 14264258 rsjem1979 said:
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A long-time born-again Christian

this will be tolerated. Bad mouthing the Yankees, though, is unheard of.
If true  
allstarjim : 1/15/2019 1:16 pm : link
I hope he doesn't survive a week in prison. People who victimize children don't deserve to live in our society, not even in a cage.
Looks like the Christian thing  
B in ALB : 1/15/2019 1:17 pm : link
is really working out well for him. Wow. What a pos.
RE: Looks like the Christian thing  
Mr. Bungle : 1/15/2019 1:21 pm : link
In comment 14264282 B in ALB said:
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is really working out well for him. Wow. What a pos.

Like Chad Curtis.
Bringing this back to Rivera and Wetteland  
Matt in SGS : 1/15/2019 1:22 pm : link
I always wondered how things would have turned out if Buck Showalter knew what he had in Rivera in 1995. Rivera pitched really well vs. the Mariners in that playoff series, one of the few to do it. The game which screwed it all up wasn't even Game 5, it was Game 4. The Yankees had a 5-0 lead and blew it. And as things started going downhill, Buck went with Bob Wickman, Sterling Hitchcock and tried to get a 2 inning save out of Wetteland. Rivera wasn't used in the game at all, and he did throw a lot of pitches in the extra inning Game 2 that Leyritz won, but didn't throw many in Game 3 after the day off.

Wetteland got bombed in that game and Buck lost so much faith in him, he let Blackjack McDowell try to finish them off in extras. Rivera only pitched 2/3 of an inning in Game 5 before giving way to McDowell.

If Buck knew how to utilize Rivera, the Yankees probably beat the Mariners and who knows if Buck gets fired and we never see Torre come to the Yankees.
RE: Bringing this back to Rivera and Wetteland  
PatersonPlank : 1/15/2019 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14264293 Matt in SGS said:
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I always wondered how things would have turned out if Buck Showalter knew what he had in Rivera in 1995. Rivera pitched really well vs. the Mariners in that playoff series, one of the few to do it. The game which screwed it all up wasn't even Game 5, it was Game 4. The Yankees had a 5-0 lead and blew it. And as things started going downhill, Buck went with Bob Wickman, Sterling Hitchcock and tried to get a 2 inning save out of Wetteland. Rivera wasn't used in the game at all, and he did throw a lot of pitches in the extra inning Game 2 that Leyritz won, but didn't throw many in Game 3 after the day off.

Wetteland got bombed in that game and Buck lost so much faith in him, he let Blackjack McDowell try to finish them off in extras. Rivera only pitched 2/3 of an inning in Game 5 before giving way to McDowell.

If Buck knew how to utilize Rivera, the Yankees probably beat the Mariners and who knows if Buck gets fired and we never see Torre come to the Yankees.


Things worked fine this way in 1996
RE: RE: Bringing this back to Rivera and Wetteland  
Matt in SGS : 1/15/2019 1:34 pm : link
In comment 14264305 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 14264293 Matt in SGS said:


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I always wondered how things would have turned out if Buck Showalter knew what he had in Rivera in 1995. Rivera pitched really well vs. the Mariners in that playoff series, one of the few to do it. The game which screwed it all up wasn't even Game 5, it was Game 4. The Yankees had a 5-0 lead and blew it. And as things started going downhill, Buck went with Bob Wickman, Sterling Hitchcock and tried to get a 2 inning save out of Wetteland. Rivera wasn't used in the game at all, and he did throw a lot of pitches in the extra inning Game 2 that Leyritz won, but didn't throw many in Game 3 after the day off.

Wetteland got bombed in that game and Buck lost so much faith in him, he let Blackjack McDowell try to finish them off in extras. Rivera only pitched 2/3 of an inning in Game 5 before giving way to McDowell.

If Buck knew how to utilize Rivera, the Yankees probably beat the Mariners and who knows if Buck gets fired and we never see Torre come to the Yankees.



Things worked fine this way in 1996


Agreed 100%. The point is that Buck had this weapon at his disposal and didn't realize it until it was too late. I remember the Twins Manager Tom Kelly in 1996 saying that Rivera is too good for the Major Leagues, he belongs in a higher league.
F Buck Showalter  
B in ALB : 1/15/2019 1:34 pm : link
He ruined Donnie Baseball's only playoff chance.

Jack McDowell. Gtfoh.
RE: F Buck Showalter  
Greg from LI : 1/15/2019 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14264311 B in ALB said:
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He ruined Donnie Baseball's only playoff chance.

Jack McDowell. Gtfoh.


Yup. Left Cone in to throw 147 pitches, the last 20 or so when he was clearly completely spent and had nothing left. The tying run that sent that game into extras came via a walk to the immortal Doug Strange.

Thanks again, Buck! Glad you've never won a damned thing.
Why  
DanMetroMan : 1/15/2019 1:45 pm : link
exactly did the White Sox give away McDowell so cheaply? Lyle Mouton? He was coming off a down year but still 10-9 3.73 era, 3.37 FIP and a 3 time all-star the 3 seasons prior including a 1st and 2nd place Cy Young finishes.
With no actual evidence of this, and nothing to do with him  
mfsd : 1/15/2019 1:47 pm : link
being a child molester...but IMO based on the eyeball test, Wetteland ranks as a blatantly obvious steroid guy, from the era when rumor has it half the league or more were using roids.
RE: RE: F Buck Showalter  
Jints in Carolina : 1/15/2019 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14264321 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14264311 B in ALB said:


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He ruined Donnie Baseball's only playoff chance.

Jack McDowell. Gtfoh.



Yup. Left Cone in to throw 147 pitches, the last 20 or so when he was clearly completely spent and had nothing left. The tying run that sent that game into extras came via a walk to the immortal Doug Strange.

Thanks again, Buck! Glad you've never won a damned thing.


Thanks for the agita all over again.
Man, that's disgusting.  
bceagle05 : 1/15/2019 1:51 pm : link
His mugshot gives off that creepy vibe, too. What a piece of shit.
RE: Why  
Greg from LI : 1/15/2019 1:55 pm : link
In comment 14264324 DanMetroMan said:
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exactly did the White Sox give away McDowell so cheaply? Lyle Mouton? He was coming off a down year but still 10-9 3.73 era, 3.37 FIP and a 3 time all-star the 3 seasons prior including a 1st and 2nd place Cy Young finishes.


Wasn't Mouten a fairly highly ranked prospect, IIRC? Hit .310/.363/.513 between AA and AAA in 1994. Also, McDowell was headed into his walk year and the White Sox apparently didn't want to pay him.
Not that it..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/15/2019 1:58 pm : link
makes a difference, but they don't specify the sex of the child. If he was taking advantage of a baseball player - that's even worse.
RE: RE: Why  
DanMetroMan : 1/15/2019 1:59 pm : link
In comment 14264334 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14264324 DanMetroMan said:


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exactly did the White Sox give away McDowell so cheaply? Lyle Mouton? He was coming off a down year but still 10-9 3.73 era, 3.37 FIP and a 3 time all-star the 3 seasons prior including a 1st and 2nd place Cy Young finishes.



Wasn't Mouten a fairly highly ranked prospect, IIRC? Hit .310/.363/.513 between AA and AAA in 1994. Also, McDowell was headed into his walk year and the White Sox apparently didn't want to pay him.


But Mouton was turning 26, solid season at AAA but nothing special 59 games hitting 314 but with only 4 homers. Seems light for a guy like McDowell who at one point was one of the better pitchers in baseball. I mean it was "before" my time in terms of really paying attention to that stuff.
The level of hysteria over labeling a pedophile  
Beezer : 1/15/2019 2:00 pm : link
on a Yankee-heavy sports site is ... well, fucking hysterical. lol

You bunch of sensitive Yankee-loving motherfuckers! SIMMA!!! DONNA!!!
Again, though, McDowell was a rental  
Greg from LI : 1/15/2019 2:04 pm : link
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RE: RE: Why  
rsjem1979 : 1/15/2019 2:05 pm : link
In comment 14264334 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14264324 DanMetroMan said:


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exactly did the White Sox give away McDowell so cheaply? Lyle Mouton? He was coming off a down year but still 10-9 3.73 era, 3.37 FIP and a 3 time all-star the 3 seasons prior including a 1st and 2nd place Cy Young finishes.



Wasn't Mouten a fairly highly ranked prospect, IIRC? Hit .310/.363/.513 between AA and AAA in 1994. Also, McDowell was headed into his walk year and the White Sox apparently didn't want to pay him.


It's also possible that they hated his guts because he's exactly the kind of guy who would flip the bird to the home crowd in his walk year.

Either way, his career was basically over after 1995 anyway.
RE: Why  
Enzo : 1/15/2019 2:07 pm : link
In comment 14264324 DanMetroMan said:
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exactly did the White Sox give away McDowell so cheaply? Lyle Mouton? He was coming off a down year but still 10-9 3.73 era, 3.37 FIP and a 3 time all-star the 3 seasons prior including a 1st and 2nd place Cy Young finishes.

It seems like there were similar lousy returns several other trades from that era. Look at what the Yankees gave up for Cone, or what the Red Sox gave up for Pedro. I think it was a combo of factors - teams were primitive when it came to evaluating minor league talent. But I think the main reason was money. Revenues for most teams had yet to really explode from local tv deals and most teams were playing in older stadiums with unfavorable leases. In short, there was a limited market of teams in a position to add an extra $5-$6 million in salary.
McDowell  
DanMetroMan : 1/15/2019 2:07 pm : link
91-93...771 innings! 257 per season.
Cone was a rental, too  
Greg from LI : 1/15/2019 2:22 pm : link
And no one thought he would re-sign with Toronto after 1995.
All  
DanMetroMan : 1/15/2019 2:37 pm : link
of that makes sense. In some ways teams becoming smarter has made the off-season/deadline less fun.
it just seemed like  
Enzo : 1/15/2019 2:38 pm : link
there were rarely bidding wars for these guys. Almost every year teams were looking to dump salary, and the Yankees were one of the few teams who could afford to add money.
The Yankees were paying some of their best players peanuts (Jeter, Rivera, Pettite Bernie, etc.) but they were were sitting on all that MSG money which dwarfed what other teams were getting.
RE: it just seemed like  
Matt in SGS : 1/15/2019 2:50 pm : link
In comment 14264429 Enzo said:
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there were rarely bidding wars for these guys. Almost every year teams were looking to dump salary, and the Yankees were one of the few teams who could afford to add money.
The Yankees were paying some of their best players peanuts (Jeter, Rivera, Pettite Bernie, etc.) but they were were sitting on all that MSG money which dwarfed what other teams were getting.


The Cubs were owned by the Tribune company which back in the day was like Amazon or Apple as far as resources. They had more money than anyone to play with. But the corporate heads didn't invest in the team properly and they never won. George took his profits and sunk it back to the team to keep bringing in more players because he understood the sizzle and the Yankee brand. He was impatient and at times made some rash/stupid decisions, but you could never accuse him of not caring about winning and putting his money where his mouth was. We've had enough posts about Hal, so I'll leave this here ;)
George loved to make money  
Greg from LI : 1/15/2019 2:56 pm : link
But he loved winning more. I don't think even his biggest critics would argue that. He often went about trying to win in foolish, self-destructive ways, yes.
there  
Enzo : 1/15/2019 3:02 pm : link
were always teams that had corporate money behind them (Cardinals, Angels, Cubs, etc.) but few, if any, were generating the revenue the Yankees were once the MSG deal kicked in. And like any business, the parent company wasn't going to start throwing cash at a sports team unless the team's revenues were going to cover it.
Can one person  
PaulN : 1/15/2019 3:55 pm : link
Give the guy the benefit of the doubt until some facts and proof is given, can we let the due process take place. No, scumbag he is, and we sit here knowing nothing, only accusations from unknown sources.
On one hand, presumption of innocence  
Heisenberg : 1/15/2019 4:14 pm : link
on the other, enough evidence to be arrested for
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continuous sexual abuse of a child under the age of 14


"continuous"




ugh.
What a disgusting  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/15/2019 4:14 pm : link
human being.
RE: I really hate when you do this shit, Dan  
micky : 1/15/2019 4:21 pm : link
In comment 14264195 Greg from LI said:
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The headline for the linked story is "Texas Rangers Hall of Fame pitcher John Wetteland arrested on child sex abuse charge", but you felt the need to change it to "ex-Yankee"? Wetteland played 12 seasons in the major leagues, only two of them as a Yankee.


Yes a little agenda there by op
RE: Not that it..  
Mad Mike : 1/15/2019 6:26 pm : link
In comment 14264338 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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makes a difference, but they don't specify the sex of the child. If he was taking advantage of a baseball player - that's even worse.

I don't follow what you're getting at, but the alleged assault was of a relative, beginning when the child was 4.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/01/15/texas-rangers-hall-famepitcher-john-wetteland-arrested-child-sex-abuse-charges
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Sick  
section125 : 1/15/2019 6:38 pm : link
individual..
We're talking about a 51 year old  
rebel yell : 1/15/2019 6:41 pm : link
man who sexually abused a 4 year old and the majority to people on here are bitching about Yankees being named in the headline. Wow!
Due process doesn't exist on BBI  
PatersonPlank : 1/15/2019 7:28 pm : link
If hes proven guilty then hang him. If hes proven innocent then I hope people on here as voraciously apologize to him as they did condemning him.
He will get his due process  
UConn4523 : 1/15/2019 7:33 pm : link
what’s that have to do with BBI? If he did it he’s a piece of shit. Emphasis on if.
A little more info from the article.  
manh george : 1/15/2019 7:45 pm : link
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He forced a relative to perform a sex act on him, according to his arrest-warrant affidavit, beginning in 2004 when the child was 4 years old. It happened two other times during a two-year period, the accuser told police.


If I read that correctly, it WAS "continuous" from 2004-6, for a total of three times, when the child was 4-6.

I'm not trying to minimize this, just give it context. In fact, if he is guilty, and this ended in 2006, it's likely that there were other victims. Pedophiles don't stop like that, from everything I have read.
RE: We're talking about a 51 year old  
section125 : 1/15/2019 7:48 pm : link
In comment 14264708 rebel yell said:
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man who sexually abused a 4 year old and the majority to people on here are bitching about Yankees being named in the headline. Wow!


37 y/o at the time. WTF?
I wonder how many  
LS : 1/15/2019 8:55 pm : link
Yankees fans on this site didn't know Wetteland pitched for the Yankees? Thanks for the heads up.
RE: Not that it..  
Boy Cord : 1/15/2019 9:33 pm : link
In comment 14264338 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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makes a difference, but they don't specify the sex of the child. If he was taking advantage of a baseball player - that's even worse.


It would be worse? Really? What if he was taking advantage of a parishioner? You know, hiding behind God and Jesus? What if it was a girl ... that didn’t play baseball?
RE: We're talking about a 51 year old  
Boy Cord : 1/15/2019 9:37 pm : link
In comment 14264708 rebel yell said:
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man who sexually abused a 4 year old and the majority to people on here are bitching about Yankees being named in the headline. Wow!


Reminiscent of PSU fans to Paterno allegations.
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