Redskins, Jaguars & Broncos #1 Pick In 2019

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to move from #15 to like #3 is over 1000 points - or the rest of the Redskin's draft plus their second rounder from next year. Much more likely for them to sign a free agent QB even if that isn't the ideal long-term outcome. But when has Daniel Snyder ever worried about the long-term?

Raiders
Bucs
Jags
Broncos
Bengals
Dolphins
Redskins

Steelers and Titans are wildcards. Steelers could look to take a QB if they see their next franchise QB in this draft, and I am no so sure the Titans are tied to Mariota

debacle. If this was 2019 or 2020 with sure fire prospects they might, but not his group. What I think they will do is just wait and see who falls to them and take the one they think is best. They need a cheap QB and they need to keep picks.

if they get that line back to being healthy and can keep Fournette on the field - probability on both are low but its one worth considering to keep from forcing a pick. That said I'm not sure how they fit him under the cap.

I'm not really worried about the Giants being jumped. If they want a QB bad enough do what you need to do to get him. If someone jumps us, take the BPA and move on.

first to Gettleman to see if he would be willing to trade since that would cost him the least?

if they fell in love with Murray I'd trade back with them to 15, take their #2 and next year's #1 and #3, then draft someone like Devin White @ 15 if he's available.

With Jacksonville obviously needing a QB we might find ourselves in the perfect position to trade back with WASH, especially if one of Haskins/Murray is already gone.

sucking has 1 perk and that’s landing a stud. We did that last year and I’d like one on the other side of the ball this year. 15 can land you a great player, but it’s far less likely than at 6.

But if they are franchise QBs someone will definitely jump us. Any team that wants one will think we want one as well. Getting in front of us will be a priority for them.

I could see him in Denver or Jacksonville

Raiders to Carr per Gruden. If Gruden wants to move on I'd love to see what he wants for Carr.

In my opinion, he’ll do whatever he has to do to get a QB and screw the Giants. Assuming there’s a QB who is that good - doesn’t mean best player. I’m guessing Haskins is good enough and the best QB in the class and he’s the target.

In comment 14265026 jlukes said:

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Raiders Bucs Jags Broncos Bengals Dolphins Redskins Steelers and Titans are wildcards. Steelers could look to take a QB if they see their next franchise QB in this draft, and I am no so sure the Titans are tied to Mariota

That is a good list although it has been very public that the Bucs wanted a coach who can work with Winston so I think TB is unlikely but you never know.

It has also been rumored that the Jags want to trade for a QB so, if that is true, I see them landing someone like Foles or Flacco only if they can absorb the contract. Not sure they can.

Oakland is definitely a wildcard but ultimately I think they stick with Carr for another year at least. Here is my thinking. Gruden was bringing in older guys. The thought process for that was with limited time with the players he wanted guys who knew how to play the game already and not have to teach them basic stuff. Well, we all saw how that turned out. But after this shitshow of a year they definitely realized losing Mack was a bad move regardless of what they got for him. I think Gruden himself said pass rushers are hard to find to his team after they got rid of Mack. I think they stick with Carr and use that pick on a pass rusher. Maybe they use a later pick on a QB but Carr has a leg up in that complicated offense. No rookie QB is going to come in and work well with it just based off of Gruden's history.

In comment 14265041 Jay in Toronto said:

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first to Gettleman to see if he would be willing to trade since that would cost him the least?

Yes, but you'd have to account for someone else interested in the same player trading up above you. That's why those higher picks are worth more, less of a chance you're left without the player you moved up for.

In comment 14265078 Deejboy said:

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I could see him in Denver or Jacksonville

Apparently Elway is enamored with Drew Lock. And he should be there at #10.

QB's play to 40yrs old. If you can get 5 quality years out of Foles than i think he's worth it. Obviously money is a factor, but if i was Jacksonville, i would join the bidding war. 1st round qb's bust all the time, you know what you are getting with Foles and you still have your 1st round pick to build a supporting cast. Denver did this last year, hasn't turned out well for them so far, but Jacksonville has more existing talent, and better coach, than Denver and i personally think Foles is better than Keenum. They also have Chubb who looks like the real deal at DE.

Washington, i think has to Draft a QB this draft.

Broncos, i think they will sit back and hope Daniel Jones makes it to them, maybe Murray.

In comment 14265058 UConn4523 said:

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sucking has 1 perk and that’s landing a stud. We did that last year and I’d like one on the other side of the ball this year. 15 can land you a great player, but it’s far less likely than at 6.

I'm with you on wanting a stud for the D and hoping one or two teams trade up ahead of us for Haskins and another QB. That would leave us with a couple more top D guys available to pick from.

Will ALL trade up in front of the Giants, and they will ALL get the QB that they want.

How is this even possible you ask?

Well I learned on BBI that you can always trade up in RD 1 to get the QB that you desire, because that's how the Eagles got Wentz.

So I'm just assuming that all of those teams will trade up and get the QB that they want too.

available QBs

If (2-3) teams trade up in front of the Giants, to acquire a QB, that means that the Giants can acquire one of the top three to four players in the draft.

It is possible a really great player may drop into their lap.

Alternatively the Giants may chose to trade down to a team looking to acquire a QB. If they can obtain some additional picks along with a #1 for next year I would do that.

In comment 14265078 Deejboy said:

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I could see him in Denver or Jacksonville

Flacco is another Eli Manning. Denver has Case Keenum. I do not believe an immobile Flacco is any better at this point. And I don't see Coughlin/Jacksonville going for Flacco either. Redskins? Maybe. But the fans would not like it. Generally, the league is moving to mobile QBs.

In comment 14265218 DeepBlueJint said:

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In comment 14265078 Deejboy said: Quote: I could see him in Denver or Jacksonville Flacco is another Eli Manning. Denver has Case Keenum. I do not believe an immobile Flacco is any better at this point. And I don't see Coughlin/Jacksonville going for Flacco either. Redskins? Maybe. But the fans would not like it. Generally, the league is moving to mobile QBs.

Redskins can't afford Flacco. They have to pay Smith that huge contract.

I mean, just look at him. He looks like he’s from Jacksonville. I think Jacksonville is somewhere between their 2017and 2018 seasons and better QB play will help. Unlike the Giants, I think they are closer to a playoff team with a decent QB and want to capitalize on whatever window they think they may have.

Skins. My Lord. QB hell. I don’t see them moving way up for a QB. I could see them sliding up a few slots, but nothing significant. They are absolutely drafting a QB in the first two rounds.

The Broncos. They are the biggest threat to jump which is good for the Giants.

Denver and the Giants upgrading only through the draft. Miami and Jacksonville through trade of FA and Washington stuck to the most appealing affordable/reclmation FA plus a draft pick. Also sounds like Carolina needs a 1 year fall back option.

think its shakes out

Foles to Miami
Tannehill to washington
Flacco to Jacksonville
Tyrod Taylor to Carolina
Bridgewater could be looking for way too much money bit he is a fall back for everyone if the pieces dont fall right

The Broncos whould have to give up a ton to go ahead of the giants from pick 10 and I don't think they are even close to contending at this point. I can see Jags doing it if they really fall in love with one of them so that would leave one left. The Giants are in a good spot. They can sit back and see what happens first before they have to make a decision to trade up or just pick at 6. Also if a team like the Broncos loves just a certain QB they would have to wait till the draft or its a big risk someone ends up jumping ahead of them. That goes for any team trading up for a QB unless you trade for the #1 pick.

not because of any of the Eagles shit, but because I don't think he makes the team any better and he's going to cost a lot of money.

Hypothetically speaking though - if you're Gettleman talking to Shurmur, and he tells you that he thinks the team can be a winner with a swap of QBs, assuming the cost isn't prohibitive (let's say $5M over just sticking with Eli) - what do you do?

It is amazing how bad Elway has been at choosing qbs. Outside of the all ready proven Manning—who was still a shell of himself—Elway has entered we hell year after year. He would be better suiting up again. I hope he trades in front of us for a while because it will probably be the wrong one.

In comment 14265048 Dan in the Springs said:

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if they fell in love with Murray I'd trade back with them to 15, take their #2 and next year's #1 and #3, then draft someone like Devin White @ 15 if he's available. With Jacksonville obviously needing a QB we might find ourselves in the perfect position to trade back with WASH, especially if one of Haskins/Murray is already gone.

That seems like a haul and I would jump on it if it were ever available to me. You get a top 10 -12 player (subtracting out the QB's) this year plus an extra second. Then, you go with Eli who most here predict will lead us to a below average record next year. Washington will have growing pains and both the Eagles and Cowboys (and Giants) will push them downward, so next year's #1 will be pretty good. So with 2 number 1 picks in 2020 to package, and a draft rich in QB's, anyone of whom would likely rank above this year's crop, we would be golden.

to move up for a QB I would be thrilled as long as the Giants don't view either Haskins or Murray as franchise QB's. That pick has a very good chance of being a top 10 pick IMO and it would give the Giants a major asset to get their QB in 2020.

In comment 14265291 Dankbeerman said:

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Denver and the Giants upgrading only through the draft. Miami and Jacksonville through trade of FA and Washington stuck to the most appealing affordable/reclmation FA plus a draft pick. Also sounds like Carolina needs a 1 year fall back option. think its shakes out Foles to Miami Tannehill to washington Flacco to Jacksonville Tyrod Taylor to Carolina Bridgewater could be looking for way too much money bit he is a fall back for everyone if the pieces dont fall right

Skins are on the hook to Smith for $41 million the next two years. They can’t invest even $15 million in Tannehill.

That’s almost always been the case for teams wanting the top QB in a draft class. My guess is that he will be the #1 pick.

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In comment 14265291 Dankbeerman said: Quote: Denver and the Giants upgrading only through the draft. Miami and Jacksonville through trade of FA and Washington stuck to the most appealing affordable/reclmation FA plus a draft pick. Also sounds like Carolina needs a 1 year fall back option. think its shakes out Foles to Miami Tannehill to washington Flacco to Jacksonville Tyrod Taylor to Carolina Bridgewater could be looking for way too much money bit he is a fall back for everyone if the pieces dont fall right Skins are on the hook to Smith for $41 million the next two years. They can’t invest even $15 million in Tannehill.

Dont see a huge market for Tannehill. he will be on a prove it deal. They can craft it so the hit is minimal. Remember they are short on cap space but the Skins will always have enough cash flow

they will be tipping their hand Teams will know they have to get a QB they can start in September. They could do that in free agency but they will still be showing their cards for the draft. Keep Eli on last year of contract and what they will do in the draft remains a mystery.

In comment 14265314 mdthedream said:

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The Broncos whould have to give up a ton to go ahead of the giants from pick 10 and I don't think they are even close to contending at this point. I can see Jags doing it if they really fall in love with one of them so that would leave one left. The Giants are in a good spot. They can sit back and see what happens first before they have to make a decision to trade up or just pick at 6. Also if a team like the Broncos loves just a certain QB they would have to wait till the draft or its a big risk someone ends up jumping ahead of them. That goes for any team trading up for a QB unless you trade for the #1 pick.

Elway needs a QB, if he drafts one and he looks in anyway halfway decent it really doesn't matter what the record is next year. If he doesn't and the team struggles, legend or not he's out.

but there is no chance they make another blockbuster trade up for an unproven QB after the bobby three sticks disaster. They are in Cap hell and need all the picks they have. My guess is they are staying put and will let ANY of the top QB's fall to them. Grier, Lock, Murray, Jones or Haskings. They may even take one of them in Rd 2 if there isn't a run on QB's in round 1.

In comment 14265729 wgenesis123 said:

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they will be tipping their hand Teams will know they have to get a QB they can start in September. They could do that in free agency but they will still be showing their cards for the draft. Keep Eli on last year of contract and what they will do in the draft remains a mystery.

Sorry, but that's a ridiculous take.

You think the Giants should pay Eli his $5M bonus and his $20M contract next year just so that they don't tip their hand for the draft???

Eli is 38 yrs. old.

Whether the Giants keep Eli or let him go they could still be looking at a QB in RD 1.

And even if they signed a stop-gap QB they could still be looking at a QB in RD 1.

and they could bring in a cheap alternative say Fitzpatric and still draft a QB in the first.