“One player who won't be going anywhere next season is Jason Pierre-Paul, who had 11.5 sacks this past season. He would line up as a rush-end, which is really a hybrid five-technique defensive end/outside linebacker standing at the line of scrimmage.
"We tried to get Jason Pierre-Paul really, really hard in Arizona," Arians said. "And we got Chandler Jones and he's [produced 41 sacks] the last three years, so [Pierre-Paul] fits extremely well because he rushes the passer."
The real question is, can Pierre-Paul be as effective standing up after spending his whole career with his hand in the dirt?”
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And I still think BJ Hill will be a better player (and much better value) over the next 3 seasons than JPP.
Tomato - tomahto. DT get banged more and typically get fewer opportunities for sacks. As the 5T DE/LB hybrid, his primary role will still be rushing the passer.
Also AZ wanted him as well
I thought he would be great under Bettcher, especially after what he did in AZ.
DE's love the idea of playing OLB in a 3-4. I remember Peppers was begging to make the transition at one time, and I think he was a 3-4 OLB with the Bears, if memory serves me right.
His sack production didn't prevent Tampa from having one of the worst defenses in the league. Perhaps not surprisingly, 8 of his 12.5 sacks came in the last 6 weeks of the season.
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him go. I would have loved to have that kind of sack production here last season.
His sack production didn't prevent Tampa from having one of the worst defenses in the league. Perhaps not surprisingly, 8 of his 12.5 sacks came in the last 6 weeks of the season.
He's not the entire defense. Some people just hate JPP just to hate him. There are plenty of stats that back up JPP being one of our best defensive players the entire time he was on the team.
^This. And I like JPP.
I thought he would be great under Bettcher, especially after what he did in AZ.
DE's love the idea of playing OLB in a 3-4. I remember Peppers was begging to make the transition at one time, and I think he was a 3-4 OLB with the Bears, if memory serves me right.
I'd rather have players who aren't baffoons
I thought he would be great under Bettcher, especially after what he did in AZ.
DE's love the idea of playing OLB in a 3-4. I remember Peppers was begging to make the transition at one time, and I think he was a 3-4 OLB with the Bears, if memory serves me right.
Ability aside, I thought I read rumors of him being a locker room cancer or at least a malcontent who might rub off on the younger guys
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He was also fantastic against the run, which often gets overlooked here.
Are there that many edge rushers padding their stars against good tackles though?
Consistent, effective pass rush no matter who the opponent is counts. JPP has good sack numbers, good TOL numbers, good passes defended numbers, good pressure, and most impressive good % of snaps played numbers for his career. He's far from an empty sack number guy.
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JPP would get stoned against better teams and pad his stats against the weak ones. For what he was being paid, he didn't produce when they needed it most and that was when going against the better teams.
He was also fantastic against the run, which often gets overlooked here.
Sort of. The run defense stunk in 2017 and they ran right an awful bunch.
No one got suspended and players weren't quitting on the field.
Curtis Riley sucking aside.
Losing JPP by trade was the right move. His contract was not worth it.
I feel like if another guy had blown 2 fingers off his hand and made it back to play at a high level, there'd be paeans to his competitive spirit while half BBI considers this guy a dog who only plays when he feels like it.
Reads like he'll be on the outside in a two-point stance most of the time.
I feel like if another guy had blown 2 fingers off his hand and made it back to play at a high level, there'd be paeans to his competitive spirit while half BBI considers this guy a dog who only plays when he feels like it.
the worst thing a player can do is to set high expectations with fans
I don't have a problem with moving JPP for a draft pick due to the 3-4 and his age but when people turn around and say it did great things for the culture they lose me. We went 5-11 and no we didn't finish strong. We lost our last 3 including a no-show at home against Tennessee.
How have you not been banned yet?
He got what he could for them.
Apple was a malcontent, didn't play well here. Hope he does well over there, but not whining over this one.
JPP's cap space needed to be dealt with. Yeah, he had a good year, but his team didn't. Not seeing him in the playoffs. Kudos to his contribution for the last SB run.
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JPP had 2 less sacks in a full season fewer games as Justin Tuck. He has just about the same tackles for loss and many more passes tipped.
JPP, stats alone was a more productive Giant in far fewer games. His peak seasons were also more productive.
He's not an all time great NFL pass rusher, but he's top 3-4 as a Giant, which is damn impressive.
I thought he would be great under Bettcher, especially after what he did in AZ.
DE's love the idea of playing OLB in a 3-4. I remember Peppers was begging to make the transition at one time, and I think he was a 3-4 OLB with the Bears, if memory serves me right.
JPP was part of the culture DG was trying to change. He’s starting to get up there in age and has had injury issues. He’s not part of the future.