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Paul Dottino blocked me on Twitter

GiantsGorilla1980s : 1/16/2019 8:09 pm
This guy is such baby. He was posting about the rams Saturday night and how good there offense looked so I commented on his tweet and said: Paul. Do you see how Whitworth is dominating in this game better yet the last two seasons heís dominated Iím glad Reese had no interest in him smh

and Paulís response to me was this. Given small cap space and his age - it would not have been smart. Rams were also much closer to contending than Giants, who needed more than one OL...And if you think NYG are still a bit away - a 37 yr old LT not what is needed today, either...lmao.

My response was Are you losing your mind? How many people picked the Giants to win the division/go to the SB in 2017 before the season???? Stop making excuses because you work for the team. And thatís all it took for me to be blocked no wonder very little people comment to him. He blocks everybody the guy is a bitch
or you are just not worth the aggravation  
Gross Blau Oberst : 1/16/2019 8:12 pm : link
just sayin..............
I wish we signed  
TommyWiseau : 1/16/2019 8:13 pm : link
Whitwort, what a great player he is
so you  
PaulBlakeTSU : 1/16/2019 8:16 pm : link
reached out to him and were a rude asshole, and you are complaining that he blocked you?

Some people.
The Rams were not closer to winning than we were  
robbieballs2003 : 1/16/2019 8:17 pm : link
At least going back to that point in time. They sucked. They fired Fisher and hired a boy. Goff had a horrible year. Knowing what we know now we can say Whitworth made the right decision and that team was close to winning but that is because McVay has done a masterful job and Goff took a huge leap.
I happen to agree with him  
UConn4523 : 1/16/2019 8:17 pm : link
and I don't work for the team. As for the blocking, who cares and its probably smart on his part is it keeps him from being tempted to post something he can't take back.
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I am Ninja : 1/16/2019 8:20 pm : link
i would have blocked you too.
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Ssanders9816 : 1/16/2019 8:21 pm : link
your 115% correct.  
CromartiesKid21 : 1/16/2019 8:24 pm : link
Jerry Reese said and followed thru that year it was more important to find and employ young tackles like Ereck Flowers and Bobby Hart that can "grow" and develop into their positions than spend money on a veteran like Andrew Whitworth who Reese had presumed was near the end of his career
He's an idiot  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/16/2019 8:25 pm : link
but I can see why he blocked you. It has nothing to do with your opinion and more to do with being kinda rude.
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arcarsenal : 1/16/2019 8:27 pm : link
Perhaps if you seemed more willing to discuss and less eager to argue, he wouldn't have blocked you.
Please Let Me Know Your Twitter Handle...  
Jim in Tampa : 1/16/2019 8:34 pm : link
As I want to block you too!



Actually, I'm just kidding. I don't really care one way or the other.

But Dottino was right to block you. Nobody needs the aggravation.
Dottino was bitchy to begin with  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 1/16/2019 8:44 pm : link
To respond like that he deserved the retort he got. There's only about 100 ways to get up to the minute news on the Giants so I'd say he's not worth the hassle.
Its amazing to me that people just Dont get FREE AGENCY  
blueblood : 1/16/2019 8:45 pm : link
Lets explain this again. Its FREE AGENCY... the PLAYER can decide where he wants to play and for whom.

You don't know if the Giants, Reese or anyone in the Giants organization reached out to him or not. All you know is that you didn't see it reported by a beat reporter or on ESPN, Twitter, etc etc.

Now that being said. Whitworth may have had ZERO interest in playing for the Giants.

Its amazing to me that people think that these NFL players dont take things into consideration like their families, where they want to live, their business ventures etc etc.. like these things arent important to them.

Just because your team didnt get a player you wanted doesnt mean it was the fault of the team ONLY.. because the PLAYER can choose to play wherever he wants to.
RE: Its amazing to me that people just Dont get FREE AGENCY  
family progtitioner : 1/16/2019 8:50 pm : link
In comment 14265959 blueblood said:
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Lets explain this again. Its FREE AGENCY... the PLAYER can decide where he wants to play and for whom.

You don't know if the Giants, Reese or anyone in the Giants organization reached out to him or not. All you know is that you didn't see it reported by a beat reporter or on ESPN, Twitter, etc etc.

Now that being said. Whitworth may have had ZERO interest in playing for the Giants.

Its amazing to me that people think that these NFL players dont take things into consideration like their families, where they want to live, their business ventures etc etc.. like these things arent important to them.

Just because your team didnt get a player you wanted doesnt mean it was the fault of the team ONLY.. because the PLAYER can choose to play wherever he wants to.


Very well said
Except Reese admitted to not going after him  
robbieballs2003 : 1/16/2019 8:55 pm : link
Or countless other left tackles. When we were interested we wamted to convert LTs to RTs because that would admit he made a mistake with Flowers.
Dottino may be thin skinned  
mfsd : 1/16/2019 8:57 pm : link
but you didnít exactly conduct yourself very well either.

It is possible to disagree and discuss without throwing a hissy fit like you did.
RE: Except Reese admitted to not going after him  
UConn4523 : 1/16/2019 9:02 pm : link
In comment 14265967 robbieballs2003 said:
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Or countless other left tackles. When we were interested we wamted to convert LTs to RTs because that would admit he made a mistake with Flowers.


I agree in part but the whole admit thing is odd. I think they simply needed Flowers to workout so the team can move forward and it obviously didnít. Benching or cutting flowers and signing an expensive, old LT wasnít in the cards and I agree with that decision. Problem is there was no other solution which compounded it, and a coaching staff that couldnt get a single player to elevate their game.
Coming here, beating your chest, ďLook at me, look at me!Ē  
Bill L : 1/16/2019 9:16 pm : link
Expecting validation...

And everyone agrees with the guy who blocked you.

Well, that must cap off your night.
RE: RE: Except Reese admitted to not going after him  
robbieballs2003 : 1/16/2019 9:23 pm : link
In comment 14265972 UConn4523 said:
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Or countless other left tackles. When we were interested we wamted to convert LTs to RTs because that would admit he made a mistake with Flowers.



I agree in part but the whole admit thing is odd. I think they simply needed Flowers to workout so the team can move forward and it obviously didnít. Benching or cutting flowers and signing an expensive, old LT wasnít in the cards and I agree with that decision. Problem is there was no other solution which compounded it, and a coaching staff that couldnt get a single player to elevate their game.


Doubling down was so dumb imo. You have to have competition especially for young guys. Let them earn something as opposed to being given something. There were more options than benching or releasing Flowers. I didn't agree with moving him to RT but that was an option. Also, LG could have been an option. Light a fire under his ass. One of two things would have happened. One, he rises to the occasion and now you salvaged your first round pick. Two, he bombs but at least you had a backup plan. It isn't like we were set along the OL and if we signed a LT that we made Flowers a backup. This is a big reason Reese is out of a job and still out of a job. It isn't how you run a team.
Yeah I think thatís all fine  
UConn4523 : 1/16/2019 9:30 pm : link
I just agree that whitworth was a huge health risk and I can see why they didnít look to bring him in. The problem is they did nothing.
I wish we had this blocking feature on bbi  
Ira : 1/16/2019 9:33 pm : link
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anyone who would bother following Dottino on Twitter  
Bill in UT : 1/16/2019 10:01 pm : link
in the first place deserves to be blocked
RE: RE: RE: Except Reese admitted to not going after him  
WillVAB : 1/16/2019 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14265982 robbieballs2003 said:
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Or countless other left tackles. When we were interested we wamted to convert LTs to RTs because that would admit he made a mistake with Flowers.



I agree in part but the whole admit thing is odd. I think they simply needed Flowers to workout so the team can move forward and it obviously didnít. Benching or cutting flowers and signing an expensive, old LT wasnít in the cards and I agree with that decision. Problem is there was no other solution which compounded it, and a coaching staff that couldnt get a single player to elevate their game.



Doubling down was so dumb imo. You have to have competition especially for young guys. Let them earn something as opposed to being given something. There were more options than benching or releasing Flowers. I didn't agree with moving him to RT but that was an option. Also, LG could have been an option. Light a fire under his ass. One of two things would have happened. One, he rises to the occasion and now you salvaged your first round pick. Two, he bombs but at least you had a backup plan. It isn't like we were set along the OL and if we signed a LT that we made Flowers a backup. This is a big reason Reese is out of a job and still out of a job. It isn't how you run a team.


This.

The problem was Reese was too committed to his draft picks and had zero feel for putting together an OL.

He probably still has a job if he lands Whitworth and drafts Ramcyk despite all of his other terrible decisions.
RE: Its amazing to me that people just Dont get FREE AGENCY  
81_Great_Dane : 1/16/2019 10:44 pm : link
In comment 14265959 blueblood said:
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Lets explain this again. Its FREE AGENCY... the PLAYER can decide where he wants to play and for whom.

You don't know if the Giants, Reese or anyone in the Giants organization reached out to him or not. All you know is that you didn't see it reported by a beat reporter or on ESPN, Twitter, etc etc.

Now that being said. Whitworth may have had ZERO interest in playing for the Giants.

Its amazing to me that people think that these NFL players dont take things into consideration like their families, where they want to live, their business ventures etc etc.. like these things arent important to them.

Just because your team didnt get a player you wanted doesnt mean it was the fault of the team ONLY.. because the PLAYER can choose to play wherever he wants to.
THIS!
RE: Its amazing to me that people just Dont get FREE AGENCY  
kennyd : 1/16/2019 11:01 pm : link
In comment 14265959 blueblood said:
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Lets explain this again. Its FREE AGENCY... the PLAYER can decide where he wants to play and for whom.

You don't know if the Giants, Reese or anyone in the Giants organization reached out to him or not. All you know is that you didn't see it reported by a beat reporter or on ESPN, Twitter, etc etc.

Now that being said. Whitworth may have had ZERO interest in playing for the Giants.

Its amazing to me that people think that these NFL players dont take things into consideration like their families, where they want to live, their business ventures etc etc.. like these things arent important to them.

Just because your team didnt get a player you wanted doesnt mean it was the fault of the team ONLY.. because the PLAYER can choose to play wherever he wants to.


God damn logic getting in the way again! We should just sign everyone that's good!!! oy vey...
RE: anyone who would bother following Dottino on Twitter  
adamg : 1/16/2019 11:01 pm : link
In comment 14265996 Bill in UT said:
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in the first place deserves to be blocked


Good call. Who follows Dottino?

Do people really suffer through the BBKL show btw?
It seems like people on Twitter  
Leg of Theismann : 1/17/2019 1:41 am : link
Purposely talk to people differently than they would they were speaking in person. I guess to get all of their pent up inner rage out? Both Dottino and the OP here were being assholes to each other over a silly thing like signing Whitworth. It's just funny to me. But it's a common thing on Twitter. A lot of "internet tough guys".
RE: RE: anyone who would bother following Dottino on Twitter  
Route 9 : 1/17/2019 4:18 am : link
In comment 14266026 adamg said:
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in the first place deserves to be blocked



Good call. Who follows Dottino?

Do people really suffer through the BBKL show btw?


They still run that show? I cant imagine how insufferable they have gotten on that awful show.

I gave up around 2014. Anita Marks is annoying as hell.
RE: Please Let Me Know Your Twitter Handle...  
Beer Man : 1/17/2019 5:19 am : link
In comment 14265949 Jim in Tampa said:
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As I want to block you too!



Actually, I'm just kidding. I don't really care one way or the other.

But Dottino was right to block you. Nobody needs the aggravation.
+1
Oh  
jeff57 : 1/17/2019 5:46 am : link
I thought you had said something bad about Davis Webb.
He blocked me to  
nygnyy274 : 1/17/2019 7:00 am : link
And it was not giants related he made a post back in June comparing the Yankees to the 1998 team I was not even being an asshole to him we were going back and forth about the yanks for an hour and the next day i went to see if he responded to my last tweet and it said I was blocked lol. He has said on his giants.com pod cast he does not have time to argu with fans even if they are right he rather just block them to avoid further conversations even if he is wrong. And he is wrong a lot so that is why he blocks people even joe and evan think he is a moron especially joe
His response to you was more than you deserved  
ATL_Giants : 1/17/2019 8:49 am : link
You talked to him like a disrespectful bitch.
ok let's see...  
EricJ : 1/17/2019 8:52 am : link
accusing the guy of being biased. Surprised you got blocked.
LOL...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/17/2019 8:58 am : link
so true!

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Coming here, beating your chest, ďLook at me, look at me!Ē
Bill L : 1/16/2019 9:16 pm : link : reply
Expecting validation...

And everyone agrees with the guy who blocked you.

Well, that must cap off your night.


Reminds of people that would audition for American Idol saying they are the best singers and then after sounding like a screeching raccoon dying as roadkill, they act as if Simon was the Anti-Christ.
RE: LOL...  
ATL_Giants : 1/17/2019 9:04 am : link
In comment 14266205 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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a screeching raccoon dying as roadkill

This visual completes my morning coffee.
Want..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 1/17/2019 9:05 am : link
extra fur with your Coffeemate?
Dottino takes a lot of abuse  
Chris684 : 1/17/2019 9:14 am : link
I get it, he kind of takes his job covering the Giants to the borderline of too seriously.

Like everyone, he's not perfect. He's been wrong about some big topics but he does know his stuff and I do think he's pretty well plugged in for the most part.

If you go back to December of 2017 and listen to him describe the profile of the next head coach the Giants were going to hire, Pat Shurmur basically checks every box he mentioned. He's clearly not stabbing in the dark.
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christian : 1/17/2019 9:17 am : link
The only exposure I get to the Dottino, Banks, Carson social media is through BBI, and I'm sure there is bias, because it's when someone has a negative interaction with them.

But the three of them seem pretty irritated when fans interact with them -- which is weird, no? They are literally forums to interact and there will be a sprinkling of idiots.

One of the prerequisites for a media professional is to always be above squabbling with the audience.
easier said then done in 2019  
UConn4523 : 1/17/2019 9:22 am : link
when almost everything is about negative, its no wonder these guys get frustrated and block people. I'd like to think that if I was in their shoes I'd remain professional and not let the masses bother me. But i'm not perfect, and I can easily find myself getting frustrated at all of the overly aggressive comments made either due to stupidity or purposely to get a rise/reaction.

There's a ton of bad news coverage these days, but its an uphill battle due to the social media, IMO. That's why its pretty damn impressive when someone like Kim Jones comes along who's intelligent and has really great tact when it comes to dismissing stupid callers. I wish there were more like her.
RE: easier said then done in 2019  
christian : 1/17/2019 9:32 am : link
In comment 14266248 UConn4523 said:
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when almost everything is about negative, its no wonder these guys get frustrated and block people. I'd like to think that if I was in their shoes I'd remain professional and not let the masses bother me. But i'm not perfect, and I can easily find myself getting frustrated at all of the overly aggressive comments made either due to stupidity or purposely to get a rise/reaction.

There's a ton of bad news coverage these days, but its an uphill battle due to the social media, IMO. That's why its pretty damn impressive when someone like Kim Jones comes along who's intelligent and has really great tact when it comes to dismissing stupid callers. I wish there were more like her.


I can't fathom John Mara is a fan of his employees getting into Twitter spats with dorky fans.

It's effortlessly avoidable.
I'll Bet Paul Dottino is a great guy  
arniefez : 1/17/2019 9:37 am : link
He's worked for/covered the Giants since the mid 80's.

He's a homer we all know that. Nothing wrong with that. I get sometimes it's just too over the top but you know that going in.

Francesa doesn't say much that makes sense but he said about Dottino with Paul everyday is sunshine it never rains. That sums it up.
RE: RE: easier said then done in 2019  
UConn4523 : 1/17/2019 10:55 am : link
In comment 14266270 christian said:
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when almost everything is about negative, its no wonder these guys get frustrated and block people. I'd like to think that if I was in their shoes I'd remain professional and not let the masses bother me. But i'm not perfect, and I can easily find myself getting frustrated at all of the overly aggressive comments made either due to stupidity or purposely to get a rise/reaction.

There's a ton of bad news coverage these days, but its an uphill battle due to the social media, IMO. That's why its pretty damn impressive when someone like Kim Jones comes along who's intelligent and has really great tact when it comes to dismissing stupid callers. I wish there were more like her.



I can't fathom John Mara is a fan of his employees getting into Twitter spats with dorky fans.

It's effortlessly avoidable.


I don't disagree. But we are human, having a bad day is all it takes to reply to something you shouldn't. You've messed up at work before, no reason to think a beat writer can't.
He probably didn't block you for your opinion  
Mike from Ohio : 1/17/2019 11:07 am : link
but probably for your rude reply. If you don't like being blocked maybe you should work on expressing yourself in a more constructive manner than "Are you losing your mind?"

Long story short, he isn't the one acting like a baby in your anecdote.
Jerry Reese rarely ever went after older players in free agency.  
Brown Recluse : 1/17/2019 11:13 am : link
So its no surprise that he didn't entertain the idea of bringing in Whitworth.

Who knows if Whitworth would have signed here or not, but it was definitely a mistake for Mr "We look at everybody" to not even try (if what he said was true).
RE: RE: RE: easier said then done in 2019  
christian : 1/17/2019 11:25 am : link
In comment 14266410 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14266248 UConn4523 said:


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when almost everything is about negative, its no wonder these guys get frustrated and block people. I'd like to think that if I was in their shoes I'd remain professional and not let the masses bother me. But i'm not perfect, and I can easily find myself getting frustrated at all of the overly aggressive comments made either due to stupidity or purposely to get a rise/reaction.

There's a ton of bad news coverage these days, but its an uphill battle due to the social media, IMO. That's why its pretty damn impressive when someone like Kim Jones comes along who's intelligent and has really great tact when it comes to dismissing stupid callers. I wish there were more like her.



I can't fathom John Mara is a fan of his employees getting into Twitter spats with dorky fans.

It's effortlessly avoidable.



I don't disagree. But we are human, having a bad day is all it takes to reply to something you shouldn't. You've messed up at work before, no reason to think a beat writer can't.


The difference is I don't seek out a public channel to converse with my company's customers and then get snotty when I don't like how they react.

Like I said it's effortlessly avoidable. If you can't represent your company well in conversation with irritating people, just don't do it.

I get it, if I had people criticizing my company and ostensibly my work with stupid arguments that weren't based in fact, I'd spout off. Totally natural human reaction.

Being in PR, media relations, etc. takes a cool operator. It takes a serious pro. Most of us aren't good at it.
I really don't understand taking the smarmy comment approach  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/17/2019 11:33 am : link
with a then-37 year old tackle.

But I guess first you have to realize that a player peaking at his near 40s is an extreme outlier, not some common sense move that a GM should comfortably make.
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