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Chris684 : 1/17/2019 9:08 am
Curious about what else you guys think the Mets will do before reporting to spring training.

Also, with a bunch of guys who play multiple positions, what do you think their positional depth chart looks like right now?

C: Ramos, TDA

1B: Frazier (until Alonso comes up)

2B: Cano, McNeil

SS: Rosario, Lowrie

3B: Lowrie, Frazier, McNeil

LF: McNeil, Nimmo

CF: Nimmo, Lagares, Broxton

RF: Conforto, Nimmo

About a million different lineup combinations but more importantly lots of good depth. I wonder if they plan on moving Frazier? Having him around without Alonso helps but things get crowded after Alonso arrives.



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Frazier stays to tutor Alonzo  
spike : 1/17/2019 9:12 am : link
And be the clubhouse leader.
I think your OF depth  
pjcas18 : 1/17/2019 9:12 am : link
chart (if it's mean to be in order) is wrong.

I believe its:

LF: Conforto, Nimmo
CF: Lagares, Broxton
RF: Nimmo, Conforto

I don't think McNeil is ahead of Nimmo or Conforto.

I also believe BVW is on record as saying most of McNeil's playing time will be in the OF.

I also think Dom Smith gets a chance to win the 1B job. I don't think he does if Frazier is still on the team, because of $$$, but I think he gets a shot at it.
Good OP  
Pep22 : 1/17/2019 9:13 am : link
especially for those of us who are fairly casual baseball fans. Can you lay out a similar summary for the pitching?
Pretty  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 9:15 am : link
clearly Frazier is starting at 1b to open. More interesting will be the decision if he starts hot. Alonso needs to stay down for 12 team games minimum but if Frazier is hitting they aren't moving him to the bench.
RE: I think your OF depth  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 9:16 am : link
In comment 14266227 pjcas18 said:
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chart (if it's mean to be in order) is wrong.

I believe its:

LF: Conforto, Nimmo
CF: Lagares, Broxton
RF: Nimmo, Conforto

I don't think McNeil is ahead of Nimmo or Conforto.

I also believe BVW is on record as saying most of McNeil's playing time will be in the OF.

I also think Dom Smith gets a chance to win the 1B job. I don't think he does if Frazier is still on the team, because of $$$, but I think he gets a shot at it.


Frazier is almost certainly staying. Brodie went out of his way to talk up his versatility, value in the clubhouse and the communication they had about adding Lowrie. I'm not saying he's here for the entire season hook or crook but he's almost certainly staying. I don't think Dom is even in the equation. They haven't mentioned him a single time while mentioning Alonso and even Cecchini.
pj  
Chris684 : 1/17/2019 9:18 am : link
McNeil starts over Lagares, no?

I think they need to get as many ABs for McNeil as possible and I'm not sure how if he's not playing LF majority of the time?

Cano, Lowrie and Conforto are in the lineup every day.
JD  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 9:19 am : link
Davis leaves Houston where he didn't get a huge shot, traded to the Mets... down to Syracuse for you JD. Plus side. Positive thing for Davis is he can play the OF so (and I'm obviously not rooting for it) but he only needs 1 of the 4 corners to be dinged or even then deciding the CF bats are so poor that Conforto or Nimmo are headed to CF.
RE: pj  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 9:20 am : link
In comment 14266240 Chris684 said:
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McNeil starts over Lagares, no?

I think they need to get as many ABs for McNeil as possible and I'm not sure how if he's not playing LF majority of the time?

Cano, Lowrie and Conforto are in the lineup every day.


No. Lagares/Broxton are in CF to open the season as of today.

1B Frazier
2b Cano
SS Rosario
3B Lowrie
LF Conforto
CF Lagares/Broxton
RF Nimmo
C Ramos

Pep, I'm no expert  
Chris684 : 1/17/2019 9:21 am : link
I was kind of just eye-balling the positional depth as it made the most sense to me.

The starting pitching seems pretty well set with Jake, Thor, Wheeler, Matz and Vargas to open up. I still think they need another back-end insurance policy.

The prominent bullpen pieces are Lugo, Gsellman, Familia and Diaz.

Dan or someone else can tell you more about the bullpen than I can.
I expect them to talk up Frazier  
pjcas18 : 1/17/2019 9:22 am : link
don't you? BVW is probably smarter than Sandy in this regard, where the Mets used to downplay player value (like Flores) I think (hope) with BVW they hype up players like the Red Sox do.

Makes them easier to trade.

And if you don't trade them, explains why.

You're covered.

I haven't heard anyone from the Mets mention Smith at all since he left the DWL, but it would make zero sense not to give him a shot in spring training. If he's not in the equation, where is he going to be? Syracuse OF?
Dan, interesting...  
Chris684 : 1/17/2019 9:23 am : link
Not disagreeing with you but that doesn't make much sense to me given what McNeil did last year.
FYI  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 9:23 am : link
Jeff McNeil has made 3 career appearances in CF totaling 12 innings. None since 2015. He may see some time out there but they didn't give up 3 prospects for Broxton + paying Lagares 9 million to have McNeil learn CF. It sounds better in a video game than it likely would in reality.
I had McNeil pegged for LF  
Chris684 : 1/17/2019 9:24 am : link
not center, but I hear you.
Injuries happen  
spike : 1/17/2019 9:25 am : link
McnNeil will get plenty of chances.

On a side note, Wilmer Flores signed a one year deal with Arizona
RE: I expect them to talk up Frazier  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 9:26 am : link
In comment 14266247 pjcas18 said:
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don't you? BVW is probably smarter than Sandy in this regard, where the Mets used to downplay player value (like Flores) I think (hope) with BVW they hype up players like the Red Sox do.

Makes them easier to trade.

And if you don't trade them, explains why.

You're covered.

I haven't heard anyone from the Mets mention Smith at all since he left the DWL, but it would make zero sense not to give him a shot in spring training. If he's not in the equation, where is he going to be? Syracuse OF?


Smith is expected to see time at 1b/OF in Syracuse. They are treating him like an afterthought. He's not making the team out of ST barring injury. Frazier, TDA, Cano, even McNeil would be options at 1b if need be and of course Alonso.
RE: I had McNeil pegged for LF  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 9:27 am : link
In comment 14266253 Chris684 said:
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not center, but I hear you.


No room in LF for McNeil. Conforto and Nimmo are the corners. Now the CF situation could prove to be a total fail and they end up shifting one back to CF but to begin the season it will be up to Mickey to find McNeil AB's.
RE: RE: I expect them to talk up Frazier  
pjcas18 : 1/17/2019 9:28 am : link
In comment 14266257 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 14266247 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


don't you? BVW is probably smarter than Sandy in this regard, where the Mets used to downplay player value (like Flores) I think (hope) with BVW they hype up players like the Red Sox do.

Makes them easier to trade.

And if you don't trade them, explains why.

You're covered.

I haven't heard anyone from the Mets mention Smith at all since he left the DWL, but it would make zero sense not to give him a shot in spring training. If he's not in the equation, where is he going to be? Syracuse OF?



Smith is expected to see time at 1b/OF in Syracuse. They are treating him like an afterthought. He's not making the team out of ST barring injury. Frazier, TDA, Cano, even McNeil would be options at 1b if need be and of course Alonso.


We'll find out soon enough.

26 days until pitchers and catchers, 30 days for position players.

I wonder if Cespedes rides a horse to camp this year.
PJ  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 9:32 am : link
Brodie was asked about 1b yesterday and Smith wasn't mentioned once. He can't play OF so he adds close to zero value on the bench. His season was an utter disaster capped by being released by his DWL team. He needs a new organization.
Wilmer  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 9:35 am : link
4.25 guaranteed. Team option for 2020, 9.75 million total if he's picked up.
RE: PJ  
pjcas18 : 1/17/2019 9:35 am : link
In comment 14266269 DanMetroMan said:
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Brodie was asked about 1b yesterday and Smith wasn't mentioned once. He can't play OF so he adds close to zero value on the bench. His season was an utter disaster capped by being released by his DWL team. He needs a new organization.

Like I said we'll find out soon enough, if he's in NY it makes zero sense to bury him. What they will do and what they should do are different things sometimes. But with the Mets there is often times a big disparity between what they do and what should do.
I thought Wilmer  
pjcas18 : 1/17/2019 9:36 am : link
would do better with an AL team. Surprised no one had more interest than that AZ contract.

His arthritis is probably only going to get worse.
Lagares  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 9:38 am : link
to Colorado for one of their overpaid RP and then signing Pollock would be ideal but I think they are going to hope for the best in CF... pretty terrifying when the OF depth is really, really thin.
I'm really surprised they didn't just trade Smith after getting Davis  
Eric on Li : 1/17/2019 9:50 am : link
even as a throw in or as part of a plawecki type deal, I can't believe his value is that non-existent, but maybe?

I think the depth chart right now is as follows, in order of security of playing time:

2B - Cano / Lowrie
SS - Rosario / Lowrie
C - Ramos / TBD since TDA will likely be rehabbing
3B - Lowrie / Frazier / McNeil
LF/RF - Conforto / Nimmo / Mcneil / Davis (may go to AAA)
CF - Lagares / Broxton / Nimmo
1B - Frazier / McNeil / Davis

That's 12 counting Davis. So possibly 1 more bench spot open for someone like TJR or Guillorme. Perhaps 2 spots open if they decide to send Davis down to Cuse.

Biggest question to me is getting enough AB's for McNeil. On a prorated basis he played as well as anyone in that lineup last year, if he plays that well again it's going to be hard to keep him out which may mean Nimmo back to CF close to full time or keeping Alonso in AAA for longer than expected.

On the pitching staff they are still 2 arms short, maybe 3, but I expect some more invites and at least 1 more MLB signing.
RE: Lagares  
moze1021 : 1/17/2019 9:57 am : link
In comment 14266285 DanMetroMan said:
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to Colorado for one of their overpaid RP and then signing Pollock would be ideal but I think they are going to hope for the best in CF... pretty terrifying when the OF depth is really, really thin.


ideal
/īˈdē(ə)l/Submit
adjective
1.
satisfying one's conception of what is perfect


Is Pollock really "ideal" in your opinion?

I can think of 2 more "ideal" signings...

I'm having a really hard time with this offseason, I just can't get excited about it.

I know I probably should be...

I think I've become completed jaded due to the disingenuous messaging constantly coming from the Alderson regime.

BVW says the Mets are feeling good... feel they are the class of the division... in other words he's expressing that they are content. He won't acknowledge that there are pieces out there that would make the team better.

Is he:

A) Stupid
B) Playing stupid and still planning to spend a lot more
C) Constrained by budget but, like Alderson, part of his job responsibility is to put lipstick on the pig that is the Mets ridiculous payroll situation and insulate the Wilpons from criticism.

I think we can agree it's probably C

I'm just tired of it...

RE: RE: Lagares  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 10:01 am : link
In comment 14266323 moze1021 said:
Quote:
In comment 14266285 DanMetroMan said:


Quote:


to Colorado for one of their overpaid RP and then signing Pollock would be ideal but I think they are going to hope for the best in CF... pretty terrifying when the OF depth is really, really thin.



ideal
/īˈdē(ə)l/Submit
adjective
1.
satisfying one's conception of what is perfect


Is Pollock really "ideal" in your opinion?

I can think of 2 more "ideal" signings...

I'm having a really hard time with this offseason, I just can't get excited about it.

I know I probably should be...

I think I've become completed jaded due to the disingenuous messaging constantly coming from the Alderson regime.

BVW says the Mets are feeling good... feel they are the class of the division... in other words he's expressing that they are content. He won't acknowledge that there are pieces out there that would make the team better.

Is he:

A) Stupid
B) Playing stupid and still planning to spend a lot more
C) Constrained by budget but, like Alderson, part of his job responsibility is to put lipstick on the pig that is the Mets ridiculous payroll situation and insulate the Wilpons from criticism.

I think we can agree it's probably C

I'm just tired of it...


I'm not comfortable relying on Lagares/Broxton so at the right price yes Pollock would be a very nice addition (flaws and all). He's better than both players. Ideally they would sign both Pollock and Ottavino or Ottavino and Keuchel but that's not happening. I would have loved Parker/Holland both came in cheap.
Pretty  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 10:08 am : link
cool shirt but 45 bucks is kind of steep for a regular t shirt
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Dan..  
moze1021 : 1/17/2019 10:13 am : link
I guess my question, put more bluntly..

You think Pollock > Harper?

I just thought it was funny you used the word "ideal" on Pollock when Bryce is just chillin waiting for a legit offer...
RE: Dan..  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 10:15 am : link
In comment 14266355 moze1021 said:
Quote:
I guess my question, put more bluntly..

You think Pollock > Harper?

I just thought it was funny you used the word "ideal" on Pollock when Bryce is just chillin waiting for a legit offer...


Oh. Sorry I misunderstood you. Yes, Harper all day.
Yeah so..  
moze1021 : 1/17/2019 10:19 am : link
I said this once last week I think...

If you start with the condition that the Mets simply can't afford Machado or Harper AND do all the other things they have done...

Then the offseason has been pretty damn good.

The issue is, that condition really really sucks...and therefore I can't call the offseason pretty damn good. Can't even get excited about it.
None of us knows  
pjcas18 : 1/17/2019 10:27 am : link
if BVW is stupid or playing stupid or neither, but we all know #3 is absolutely legit.

Constraints of our plan = budget

Quote:

Michael Mayer
‏ @mikemayerMMO

Interesting quote from BVW, "Ive never operated this offseason to wait and see if a market dropped. In fact, all of our moves have not been market contingent, theyve been roster contingent how do these players fit? Can we acquire them within the constraints of our plan?
8:13 AM - 17 Jan 2019
Mets  
TyreeHelmet : 1/17/2019 10:30 am : link
Doesnt that lineup have some serious holes? And that outfield is really thin. Once again the Mets will need a lot of things to break right and health to be good.

And every MLB team including the Mets can afford Harper. They are simply choosing not to. Mets fans that are pro owners are strange. Theres no salary cap! And the owners not spending will have zero effect on the prices you pay as a fan.
I wonder what happens when Ces  
CMicks3110 : 1/17/2019 10:44 am : link
gets back. I know that its no sure thing. But if we get him back in July, there is going to be a ton of moving pieces.
RE: None of us knows  
Shecky : 1/17/2019 10:52 am : link
In comment 14266376 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
if BVW is stupid or playing stupid or neither, but we all know #3 is absolutely legit.

Constraints of our plan = budget



Quote:



Michael Mayer
‏ @mikemayerMMO

Interesting quote from BVW, "Ive never operated this offseason to wait and see if a market dropped. In fact, all of our moves have not been market contingent, theyve been roster contingent how do these players fit? Can we acquire them within the constraints of our plan?
8:13 AM - 17 Jan 2019



In case it hasnt been obvious by now, he likes to target the best player/fit for the team and aggressively target him. Whether its trade or FA. Whether its an overpayor not. I thing preventing him from coming back to the market when it drops. But a hard lesson learned by Somme FO and agents is Brody is very straight forward, will overpay. But the second youve played your cards too hard, hes not just ready but willing to quickly move on. Its certainly a refreshing change of pace.
RE: I wonder what happens when Ces  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 10:53 am : link
In comment 14266390 CMicks3110 said:
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gets back. I know that its no sure thing. But if we get him back in July, there is going to be a ton of moving pieces.


He will not be back anytime soon. In fact, Omar made it sound like we may not see him at all.
Wishful thinking  
Shecky : 1/17/2019 10:54 am : link
...
RE: Mets  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 10:54 am : link
In comment 14266379 TyreeHelmet said:
Quote:
Doesnt that lineup have some serious holes? And that outfield is really thin. Once again the Mets will need a lot of things to break right and health to be good.

And every MLB team including the Mets can afford Harper. They are simply choosing not to. Mets fans that are pro owners are strange. Theres no salary cap! And the owners not spending will have zero effect on the prices you pay as a fan.


OF is a major, major issue. Yes they have McNeil (with limited OF experience) but CF they have 2 major ?? and after that you're looking at Davis, Rajai Davis (38 years old), Gregor Blanco.... prospect wise the Mets OF is completely barren.
when does Cespedes get back?  
gtt350 : 1/17/2019 10:57 am : link
.
RE: Mets  
allstarjim : 1/17/2019 11:01 am : link
In comment 14266379 TyreeHelmet said:
Quote:
Doesnt that lineup have some serious holes? And that outfield is really thin. Once again the Mets will need a lot of things to break right and health to be good.

And every MLB team including the Mets can afford Harper. They are simply choosing not to. Mets fans that are pro owners are strange. Theres no salary cap! And the owners not spending will have zero effect on the prices you pay as a fan.


The outfield isn't really all that thin.

Conforto, Nimmo, Lagares, Broxton. Then you have guys that can play the outfield, more really the corners, in McNeil, Dom, J.D. Davis, and T.J. Rivera in a pinch.

Then you have to consider that organizationally the Mets still have Rajai Davis, Gregor Blanco, Rymer Liriano, and Kevin Kaczmarski. A move can be made if necessary, but Nimmo and Conforto's ability to play CF, as well as the aforementioned guys like McNeil that can play in LF, makes these moves unlikely to be necessary.

Further, I think the Mets may, and should, explore Amed Rosario in CF when Gimenez is ready to be promoted.

And you still should have Yoenis Cespedes back hopefully in August for the stretch run.

In terms of the lineup, this is the deepest Mets lineup I can remember.

Nimmo
Conforto
Cano
Ramos
Lowrie
Alonso (Frazier and Dom for two weeks, ok)
Rosario
Lagares or Broxton

And I'll tell you this, Alonso is going to be a hit. Not really any doubt in my mind. He's put up all those numbers in the minors, he's done it against good competition, and the main thing that gives me confidence is that his exit velocities are the highest in the minors. Dude can mash.

And then you have McNeil that is going to plug into that lineup often.

Hopefully, in August our lineup will look like:

CF Nimmo
3B Lowrie / McNeil
2B Cano
LF Cespedes
RF Conforto
1B Alonso
C Ramos
SS Rosario

Sure, there are some 'ifs' there, but it's also entirely plausible.
RE: RE: Mets  
allstarjim : 1/17/2019 11:04 am : link
In comment 14266408 DanMetroMan said:
Quote:
In comment 14266379 TyreeHelmet said:


Quote:


Doesnt that lineup have some serious holes? And that outfield is really thin. Once again the Mets will need a lot of things to break right and health to be good.

And every MLB team including the Mets can afford Harper. They are simply choosing not to. Mets fans that are pro owners are strange. Theres no salary cap! And the owners not spending will have zero effect on the prices you pay as a fan.



OF is a major, major issue. Yes they have McNeil (with limited OF experience) but CF they have 2 major ?? and after that you're looking at Davis, Rajai Davis (38 years old), Gregor Blanco.... prospect wise the Mets OF is completely barren.


If Broxton and Lagares are a combination of failure and injury, you don't even need to worry about Davis and Blanco, just move Nimmo to CF and instill McNeil in left and be done with it. Sure, he has limited OF experience, but that bat more than makes up for it. Worse comes to worse you can still pop Dom out there in LF, or call up Kevin Kaczmarski, who will at minimum play hard.

There's always the option of making a move as well (Frazier?)
RE: RE: None of us knows  
pjcas18 : 1/17/2019 11:05 am : link
In comment 14266401 Shecky said:
Quote:
In comment 14266376 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


if BVW is stupid or playing stupid or neither, but we all know #3 is absolutely legit.

Constraints of our plan = budget



Quote:



Michael Mayer
‏ @mikemayerMMO

Interesting quote from BVW, "Ive never operated this offseason to wait and see if a market dropped. In fact, all of our moves have not been market contingent, theyve been roster contingent how do these players fit? Can we acquire them within the constraints of our plan?
8:13 AM - 17 Jan 2019





In case it hasnt been obvious by now, he likes to target the best player/fit for the team and aggressively target him. Whether its trade or FA. Whether its an overpayor not. I thing preventing him from coming back to the market when it drops. But a hard lesson learned by Somme FO and agents is Brody is very straight forward, will overpay. But the second youve played your cards too hard, hes not just ready but willing to quickly move on. Its certainly a refreshing change of pace.



I don't mind that, but it's kind of hard to look fans in the eye and say Jed Lowrie was a better fit for the Mets than Manny Machado.

Until you add and understand "within the constraints of our plan"

which is what pisses off most Mets fans because it means they don't want to spend on Machado.
The  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 11:07 am : link
OF is insanely thin.

Broxton hasn't hit in 2 years. Dom Smith has been horrendous offensively and is a joke in the OF. TJ Rivera (if he even makes the team) has 13 CAREER appearances in the OF and is 30 years old. Rajai Davis, Gregor Blanco, Rymer Liriano... all have opt-outs (very little chance Rajai Davis at 38 is going to spend much time in Syracuse vs. retiring or going somewhere else) and have been either awful recently (the first 2) or never good (Liriano), Kaczmarski was replaced by... Matt Den Dekker and then removed from the 40 man, that's how high they are on him. It's beyond thin and even they recognize this thus adding both Davis, Blanco, Liriano etc. It's bad.
Liriano  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 11:11 am : link
career wRC+ 59 MLB games... 59 wRC+, now with his 5th organization

Rajai Davis wRC+ the past 2 seasons- 67 (not a typo)

Gregor Blanco- 73 (not a typo)

Keon Broxton 84

Lagares career 85

The top OF prospect in the system might still be... Dez Lindsay. He of the career .718 OPS. It's okay to like the roster and still acknowledge the OF depth is really, really poor.
Shawn Tolleson  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 11:11 am : link
just retired due to TJ complications, TJ Rivera had them last year. Lets hope guys like Szapucki come back healthy. TJ is no sure thing.
RE: The  
dep026 : 1/17/2019 11:14 am : link
In comment 14266426 DanMetroMan said:
Quote:
OF is insanely thin.

Broxton hasn't hit in 2 years. Dom Smith has been horrendous offensively and is a joke in the OF. TJ Rivera (if he even makes the team) has 13 CAREER appearances in the OF and is 30 years old. Rajai Davis, Gregor Blanco, Rymer Liriano... all have opt-outs (very little chance Rajai Davis at 38 is going to spend much time in Syracuse vs. retiring or going somewhere else) and have been either awful recently (the first 2) or never good (Liriano), Kaczmarski was replaced by... Matt Den Dekker and then removed from the 40 man, that's how high they are on him. It's beyond thin and even they recognize this thus adding both Davis, Blanco, Liriano etc. It's bad.


If the Phillies sign Harper - they will need to trade either Williams or Altherr. Could be a decent pickup for the Mets.
2 things  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 11:14 am : link
to note.. lack of OF prospects and lack of SP prospects. Once you get past Junior Santos there isn't a likely MLB SP on that list.


Rookie maximums for at-bats (130), games pitched (30) or innings (50) in the major leagues"

If the 2 leaders are within 5% of each other, or the leader has less than 30% there will be a run-off between the top 2. If a run-off results in a tie the tiebreaker will be vote total in the previous poll, we will continue to "go back" in the polls until there is a clear leader.

*Jeff McNeil is ineligible
*Chris Flexen is ineligible
*Drew Smith is ineligible
*Tyler Bashlor is ineligible

1) Andres Gimenez (SS) AA 19/37 votes- 51%
2) Peter Alonso (1B) AAA 24/36 votes- 67%
3) Ronny Mauricio (SS) Kingsport 12/33-36%
4) Mark Vientos (3b) Kingsport 16/31-52%
5) David Peterson (LHP) A+ 21/31- 68%
6) Franklyn Kilome (RHP) AA 20/33-61%
7) Thomas Szapucki (LHP) A 18/32-56%
8) Shervyen Newton (SS) Kingsport 12/30-40%, Run-off with Anthony Kay 17/33-52%
9) Anthony Kay (LHP) AA 18/26-69%
10) Simeon Woods-Richardson (RHP) Kingsport 12/30-40%
11) Will Toffey (3B) 10/29-34%, run-off with Cecchini 15/27-56%
12) Gavin Cecchini (2b) 14/26-46%
13) Francisco Alvarez (C) 9/26-35%
14) Dez Lindsay (OF) 7/18-39%
15) Tony Dibrell (RHP) 9/23-39%
16) Jordan Humphreys (RHP) 7/21-33%, Run-off with Nido 18/24-75%
17) Junior Santos (RHP) 6/28-21%, Run-off with Nido 11/20-55%
18) Tomas Nido (C) 10/23-43%
19) Luis Guillorme (SS) 9/24-38%
20) Adrian Hernandez 6/26-23%, run-off with Wahl/Cortes 8/15-53%
21) Carlos Cortes (2b) 8/21-38%
22) Steven Villines (RHP) 4/16 25%, Run-off with Thompson/Wahl 9/23-39%
23) David Thompson (3b) 8/23-35%
24) Ali Sanchez (C) 9/17-53%
25) Eric Hanhold (RHP) 7/21-33%, run-off 7/20-35%
26) Luis Carpio (IF) 4/18-22%, runoff with Uriarte 9/14-64%
27) Stanley Consuegra (OF) 4/20-20%, runoff with Uriarte/Valdez 6/17-35%, advances due to more votes in previous poll
28) Juan Uriarte (C) 4/19-21%
29) Freddy Valdez (OF) 7/17-41%
30) Daniel Zamora (LHP) 3/17-18%, run-off with Montes De Oca 10/12-83%
31) Jaylen Palmer (??) 3/12-25%, run-off with Montes de Oca/Vilera 9/16-56%
32) Ryley Gilliam (RHP) 5/22-23%, run-off with Manea 8/16-50%, advances due to more votes in previous poll
33) Matt Winaker (OF) 4/22-18
34) Kyle Dowdy (RHP) 6/20-30%, run-off with Vilera 9/12-75%
35) Jaison Vilera (RHP) 6/17-35%
36) Jose Miguel Medina(OF) 6/17-24%
37) Jeremy Vasquez (1b) 3/18-17% run-off with MDO/Manea/Viall 3/7-43%
38) Patrick Mazeika (C) 4/13-31%
39) Walker Lockett (RHP) 5/13-38%
40) Sam Haggerty (UTIL) 7/11 64%
41) Chris Viall (RHP) 4/11 36%
42) Ryder Ryan (RHP) 8/13- 62%
43) Bryce Montes de Oca 6/19 32%
44) Christian James 6/17-35%
RE: The  
spike : 1/17/2019 11:19 am : link
In comment 14266426 DanMetroMan said:
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OF is insanely thin.

Broxton hasn't hit in 2 years. Dom Smith has been horrendous offensively and is a joke in the OF. TJ Rivera (if he even makes the team) has 13 CAREER appearances in the OF and is 30 years old. Rajai Davis, Gregor Blanco, Rymer Liriano... all have opt-outs (very little chance Rajai Davis at 38 is going to spend much time in Syracuse vs. retiring or going somewhere else) and have been either awful recently (the first 2) or never good (Liriano), Kaczmarski was replaced by... Matt Den Dekker and then removed from the 40 man, that's how high they are on him. It's beyond thin and even they recognize this thus adding both Davis, Blanco, Liriano etc. It's bad.


you forgot Tebow
RE: when does Cespedes get back?  
spike : 1/17/2019 11:20 am : link
In comment 14266411 gtt350 said:
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Never.
RE: RE: The  
DanMetroMan : 1/17/2019 11:22 am : link
In comment 14266452 spike said:
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In comment 14266426 DanMetroMan said:


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OF is insanely thin.

Broxton hasn't hit in 2 years. Dom Smith has been horrendous offensively and is a joke in the OF. TJ Rivera (if he even makes the team) has 13 CAREER appearances in the OF and is 30 years old. Rajai Davis, Gregor Blanco, Rymer Liriano... all have opt-outs (very little chance Rajai Davis at 38 is going to spend much time in Syracuse vs. retiring or going somewhere else) and have been either awful recently (the first 2) or never good (Liriano), Kaczmarski was replaced by... Matt Den Dekker and then removed from the 40 man, that's how high they are on him. It's beyond thin and even they recognize this thus adding both Davis, Blanco, Liriano etc. It's bad.



you forgot Tebow


You scoff but I think he sees a big league AB this season.
PJ re Machado  
Shecky : 1/17/2019 11:31 am : link
Preface once again Ive pleaded for!achado and Harper alloffseason,and I HATE Harper.

But, is team better with Machado, or with Lowrie, Familia and Ramos filling three holes? I dont know the answer, no one does. But thats a reality. And its a reality every other team in MLB has decided is the better path, so far...
Why is everyone crapping on Nimmo  
ZGiants98 : 1/17/2019 11:32 am : link
In CF? With BVW talking up McNeil in the OF, its pretty clear to me Nimmo shifts to CF days McNeil is out there with McNeil likely in LF.

The Nimmo hate is baffling (not referencing any poster here). He was only slightly below average defensively last year in CF and considering his offensive profile, his value skyrockets with him in CF actually. Obviously Lagares and Broxton are going to play against lefties and come in for defense late in games but for my money the predominant OF against righties would be McNeil-Nimmo-Conforto.
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