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HERP DERP: Who was worse, Curtis Riley or CC Brown?

FStubbs : 1/18/2019 8:51 pm
Go for it.

My vote is CC Brown. He was a big giant bulls eye on what was probably a decent defense.

Riley was awful, but so was most of the rest of the defense. Riley also made a couple of plays. I don't remember CC Brown ever making any.
CC Brown or...  
BigBlue2007 : 1/18/2019 9:12 pm : link
Curtis Deloatch
C.C. sucked to the best of his ability  
madgiantscow009 : 1/18/2019 9:20 pm : link
Riley wasn't good enough to make business decisions. Maybe I'm just wearing Brown colored glasses
what do you mean "was"?  
SHO'NUFF : 1/18/2019 9:25 pm : link
Last I checked, Curtis Riley IS still our safety.
Brent Alexander  
jlukes : 1/18/2019 9:48 pm : link
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He is an RFA  
Doomster : 1/18/2019 9:50 pm : link
but I doubt he gets an offer....
RE: what do you mean  
Diver_Down : 1/18/2019 9:52 pm : link
In comment 14268080 SHO'NUFF said:
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Last I checked, Curtis Riley IS still our safety.


His final business decision before getting pulled will likely be his final business decision of his career. He only signed a 1 year contract. Technically he is still on our roster, but he won't be brought back.
CC Brown was far, far, far worse.  
allstarjim : 1/18/2019 10:19 pm : link
I'm not saying Curtis Riley was good, but there's really no comparison.
CC Brown  
RAIN : 1/18/2019 10:35 pm : link
Was worse... way worse.
Will Demps  
ImThatGuy : 1/18/2019 11:18 pm : link
Tops them all
Riley is an All-Pro compared to CC - RIley is really not that bad  
PatersonPlank : 1/18/2019 11:26 pm : link
CC played like I would out there
RE: CC Brown  
jnoble : 1/18/2019 11:48 pm : link
In comment 14268117 RAIN said:
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Was worse... way worse.


Bad bad CC Brown
Baddest DB in the whole dang town
Worse then Jeremy Lincoln
Don't know what Reese was thinking
For my money CC Brown was the worst Safety  
Hammer : 1/19/2019 12:07 am : link
The Giants fielded in the last thirty years.
Riley  
Vanzetti : 1/19/2019 12:12 am : link
CC couldn’t cover but he was not afraid to tackle

Riley only started because DG and PS were trying to justify their own acquisitions. He will be out of football within a year
Adams was a much better player  
Vanzetti : 1/19/2019 12:16 am : link
Went to Tampa and had 4 ints and was a guy who liked to hit

Riley was really bad last season  
GiantsBRFan2 : 1/19/2019 1:19 am : link
But CC was one of the worst players I've ever seen on the NFL.
What bothered me the most  
Fred-in-Florida : 1/19/2019 5:41 am : link
was Riley was given the starting job from day 1. Thompson and Adams were kicked to the side almost immediately. So I expected a lot more from him.

I didn't think Adams play was terrible. Seemed he played his position conservatively not out of control. Didn't he catch on with the Bucs, and played okay, not Riley bad.

The praise for Thompson his rookie camps was he was was intelligent, knew the system, put people in the right places. Then he got hurt and nothing....
Didn't see Vinzetti's post  
Fred-in-Florida : 1/19/2019 5:44 am : link
see what happens when you jump ahead!
Didn't CC  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 1/19/2019 6:01 am : link
Get like 5+ ints one year, mostly because teams were targeting him? I assumed he was so out of position, it confused the qbs.
Totally agree  
mattyblue : 1/19/2019 6:52 am : link
with those saying Adams was ok. He wasn’t an all pro but he played well enough and you could see how much better Collins played with a FS that allowed him to play up more
CC by a lot  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 1/19/2019 6:52 am : link
He made Will Demps look like a good player.
CC aka  
El Pollo Diablo : 1/19/2019 7:07 am : link
by a landslide
Worse?  
Jimmy Googs : 1/19/2019 8:38 am : link
I think when you get NFL players like the ones we are talking about it in this thread, there is no worse. There is only bad...
It wasn’t just CC Brown if I recall  
mattlawson : 1/19/2019 8:44 am : link
the other safety in 2009 was also atrocious. Michael Johnson? PFF was new at the time but our starting group were the worst 2 safeties in the league.
CC Brown to me because that 2009 team was a solid team  
The_Boss : 1/19/2019 8:56 am : link
His play killed them and played a big part in crushing a season that went 8-8. Riley was just another bad player on a bad team.
Reilly missed 23 tackles last year  
since1925 : 1/19/2019 9:35 am : link
Can't believe Brown came close to that.
CC Brown  
McNally's_Nuts : 1/19/2019 10:00 am : link
Was the worst player but that’s because he was never a free safety.

Giants went into that season with 3 safeties, Phillips, Michael Johnson and CC Brown. When Phillips went down with the knee injury that eventually cost him his career, there was nothing behind him worth anything.

I remember reading the safeties coach wanted another player because he was afraid someone was going to get hurt and the Giants had no depth. I think it was David Merritt who said that.

They were both awful players, end of story
dave thomas was worse than both of them  
GiantsFan84 : 1/19/2019 10:51 am : link
but cc brown is way worse than riley
Dumping Adams for Riley  
Jim in Forest Hills : 1/19/2019 11:36 am : link
was definitely one of DG's mistakes.

Riley was terrible, played himself out of the NFL.
RE: Reilly missed 23 tackles last year  
Jimmy Googs : 1/19/2019 12:07 pm : link
In comment 14268239 since1925 said:
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Can't believe Brown came close to that.



Does the 23 include the tackles he didn't really try to make, or is it just the ones where he gave an effort?

always wondered...
RE: Adams was a much better player  
Toth029 : 1/19/2019 1:27 pm : link
In comment 14268141 Vanzetti said:
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Went to Tampa and had 4 ints and was a guy who liked to hit

Riley had 4 INTs too
...  
Toth029 : 1/19/2019 1:30 pm : link
Riley stinks, really bad. Don't get my post twisted.

But Adams wasn't good either. Stats are always skewed.

Stevie Brown was a decent, borderline starter. Yet he had that 8 pick season. But he still wasn't a tremendous safety or anything.
RE: dave thomas was worse than both of them  
arcarsenal : 1/19/2019 5:28 pm : link
In comment 14268323 GiantsFan84 said:
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but cc brown is way worse than riley


Dave Thomas was slow as shit but he was a starting CB on a Super Bowl team. He was absolutely not worse than CC Brown. Not even close. Riley isn't, either.

If we want to pull out crappy old NYG DB's, Jeremy Lincoln might be a better place to start.
I see your CC Brown  
PEEJ : 1/19/2019 5:45 pm : link
and raise you Jesse Campbell
Did BBI really create the ‘Can’t Cover’ nickname?  
RobCarpenter : 1/19/2019 6:36 pm : link
That’s one of the best nicknames ever.
Riley and it’s not even close  
NYGmen58 : 1/19/2019 10:10 pm : link
C.C. Brown was pressed into duty due to injuries. Riley aaa somehow the starting free safety since training camp and couldn’t make a tackle.
How quickly we forget  
GoDeep13 : 1/19/2019 11:33 pm : link
About Aaron Rouse. I personally thought he was worse than CC. He was a big safety that sucked at tackling AND could keep up in coverage.
RE: Didn't CC  
sb from NYT Forum : 1/20/2019 12:59 am : link
In comment 14268163 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Get like 5+ ints one year, mostly because teams were targeting him? I assumed he was so out of position, it confused the qbs.


No, that was Stevie Brown, basically in the right place at the right time. Anyone could see that. Then he tore his ACL. And still Reese gave him a big contract because why the fuck not.

And he played like crap.
Lets not forget Trippin Trevin Wade,  
Brown Recluse : 1/20/2019 9:51 am : link
who had a penchant for falling down in coverage.
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