Technically past the literal halfway point, but the AS break is over and onto the next part of the season.
Standings:
Biggest surprises to me are:
Islanders: even with a down year for the Metro the Islanders weren't supposed to be here, and they may not be at the end, but they are now. A +25 goal differential is not a fluke for the standings.
Canadiens: Bergevin takes a ton of shit for the failed Subban trade (and deservedly so), but his Galchenyuk and Paccioretty trades have worked beautifully and even though I was surprised to see Kotkaniemi taken ahead of Zadina and Tkachuk I see why, he's a better player. They left the world juniors with the best forward, best defenseman, and could have had best goalie. Things in hockey can turn around quickly. Unlike the Islanders I don't think the Canadiens can sustain their playoff spot, but I didn't think they'd be here either.
Avalanche:
We all knew MacKinnon was a superstar but that top line is flying, they have some good prospects, and they have a lot of youth, needle pointing up for the Avs, but didn't expect them to show results so soon.
could be more, but those to me are three of the biggest 1st half surprises.
Deadline:
Leafs acquired Muzzin from LA for a 1st. I don't think Muzzin is worth a 1st, he's solid, but not great, but Toronto needs D and he's better than most of their D other than Rielly. Makes them a contender if they weren't already. This is a trade if I am TOR I make every time.
Anakim will be happy (or not) that Panarin said he will not negotiate with the BJ's who had made public that they were willing to discuss a LT deal, so he's likely (if not guaranteed) to be traded. Downside for Rangers fans would be if he signs with his new team.
Other rumored names to be dealt:
Wayne Simmonds (and anyone on the Flyers not named Giroux or Hart)
Bobrovsky - should be a lot of interest, even in a down year for him
Here is a list from NHL.com:
FORWARDS
Mark Stone, RW, OTT
Current Yahoo rank: 37
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Chris Kreider, LW, NYR
Current Yahoo rank: 48
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2020
Artemi Panarin, LW, CBJ
Current Yahoo rank: 60
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Micheal Ferland, LW/RW, CAR
Current Yahoo rank: 84
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Gustav Nyquist, LW/RW, DET
Current Yahoo rank: 102
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Eric Staal, C, MIN
Current Yahoo rank: 105
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Matt Duchene, C, OTT
Current Yahoo rank: 123
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Evgenii Dadonov, LW/RW, FLA
Current Yahoo rank: 129
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2020
Kasperi Kapanen, RW, TOR
Current Yahoo rank: 131
Contract status: Potential RFA in 2019
Kevin Hayes, C, NYR
Current Yahoo rank: 157
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Jeff Carter, C, LAK
Current Yahoo rank: 174
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2022
Wayne Simmonds, RW, PHI
Current Yahoo rank: 189
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Brayden Schenn, C, STL
Current Yahoo rank: 194
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2020
Andreas Johnsson, LW, TOR
Current Yahoo rank: 254
Contract status: Potential RFA in 2019
Jordan Eberle, C/RW, NYI
Current Yahoo rank: 310
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Mats Zuccarello, RW, NYR
Current Yahoo rank: 350
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Jakob Silfverberg, RW, ANA
Current Yahoo rank: 376
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Jason Spezza, C, DAL
Current Yahoo rank: 395
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Derick Brassard, C, PIT
Current Yahoo rank: 420
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Nick Bjugstad, C/LW/RW, FLA
Current Yahoo rank: 423
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2021
Ilya Kovalchuk, LW/RW, LAK
Current Yahoo rank: 431
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2021
Brandon Pirri, C/LW, VGK
Current Yahoo rank: 477
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Marcus Johansson, LW, NJD
Current Yahoo rank: 515
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Andre Burakovsky, LW/RW, WSH
Current Yahoo rank: 570
Contract status: Potential RFA in 2019
Jesse Puljujarvi, RW, EDM
Current Yahoo rank: 644
Contract status: Potential RFA in 2019
William Nylander, C/RW, TOR
Current Yahoo rank: 712
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2024
DEFENSEMEN
Dougie Hamilton, CAR
Current Yahoo rank: 141
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2021
Justin Faulk, CAR
Current Yahoo rank: 155
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2020
Alexander Edler, VAN
Current Yahoo rank: 196
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Colton Parayko, STL
Current Yahoo rank: 207
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2022
Jake Gardiner, TOR
Current Yahoo rank: 241
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Alex Pietrangelo, STL
Current Yahoo rank: 364
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2020
Alec Martinez, LAK
Current Yahoo rank: 509
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2021
GOALIES
Sergei Bobrovsky, CBJ
Current Yahoo rank: 191
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Jimmy Howard, DET
Current Yahoo rank: 170
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Semyon Varlamov, COL
Current Yahoo rank: 233
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Mike Smith, CGY
Current Yahoo rank: 389
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
Cam Talbot, EDM
Current Yahoo rank: 596
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
And, Dougie Hamilton available? He stinks. I've watched quite a few Canes games and he makes Keith Yandle look like a shutdown defenseman.
Rittich has stepped up for them in a major way.
They helped the Islanders out with Eberle
Where's our fleecing!?!? And no, Spooner for Strome doesn't compare to the former two.
Hopefully he's heading for NYC in July regardless.
I doubt the Isles are willing to risk the price of a top tier rental but Stone would literally be a perfect fit next to Barzal.
Been there; done that
The question is whether it makes sense to trade for him now or just sign him in July.
They immediately waived Mason, but for their efforts got Joel Armia who is a solid top 9 forward, and a couple draft picks.
12 teams with less than $3M in cap space I believe.
Look for teams with space to make moves now even for just draft picks while accepting a bad contract.
The question is whether it makes sense to trade for him now or just sign him in July.
I doubt Columbus would send him here right now. Maybe if they fall off the earth in the next couple weeks, but if they trade him I'd guess it will be out west to a team they don't need to jump in the standings (or could face in the playoffs).
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I have to think during his time with the Rangers he just wasn't right physically. I know he had a shoulder problem and he went from doing nothing with the Rangers to lighting it up on the Wild
It seems all but certain he's gone in FA, so I think they'll try and get something for him.
As PJ said, the numbers don't lie. Goal differential is amazing.
For those that are watching them from afar, Trotz has pushed the right button on his goalie 95% of the time. He's been dead on as to who plays when.
Part of me wants to see a trade to improve the team, but part of me doesn't want to see the chemistry broken up. Collectively they have been amazing as proof of their place in the standings. I trust in whatever Lou and Trotz have up their sleeve.
They helped the Islanders out with Eberle
Where's our fleecing!?!? And no, Spooner for Strome doesn't compare to the former two.
And Barzal, and Beauvillier
The good thing is they don't have to trade h8im because he has a year left.
Zucc is gone but won't bring back as much. I think Hayes is undervalued by that Yahoo ranking
- Cap space. They got that.
- In contention. They got that.
- Dynamic center for him to play with. They got that.
- Major market... jokes aside, they got that.
- Need at wing. They got that.
- Quality assets to deal. They got that.
In a way it might make the most sense of any option, save for them being in the same division.
It goes without saying that the hall would be massive, though. I think we'd be looking at something like Wahlstrom, Wilde, Beauvillier, and a 1st for Panarin and a 3rd.
The AS break could not have come at a better time for the Caps. They need to figure out their defense and make sure they get into the group of 8.
- Cap space. They got that.
- In contention. They got that.
- Dynamic center for him to play with. They got that.
- Major market... jokes aside, they got that.
- Need at wing. They got that.
- Quality assets to deal. They got that.
In a way it might make the most sense of any option, save for them being in the same division.
It goes without saying that the hall would be massive, though. I think we'd be looking at something like Wahlstrom, Wilde, Beauvillier, and a 1st for Panarin and a 3rd.
Jokes aside, no you really don't
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and there are plenty of reasons to think it can happen.
- Cap space. They got that.
- In contention. They got that.
- Dynamic center for him to play with. They got that.
- Major market... jokes aside, they got that.
- Need at wing. They got that.
- Quality assets to deal. They got that.
In a way it might make the most sense of any option, save for them being in the same division.
It goes without saying that the hall would be massive, though. I think we'd be looking at something like Wahlstrom, Wilde, Beauvillier, and a 1st for Panarin and a 3rd.
Jokes aside, no you really don't
You may wanna be more specific with your retort considering all his points were accurate
Price has been great lately, but overall on the season, not so much, and one again he's playing with an injury.
Hard to believe he passed Patrick Roy for wins, though wins now are a little different than when there were ties.
Roy has 130 ties/ot shootout losses (not sure how many were ties).
Price just needs 9 more wins to pass Jacque Plante for #1 in Habs history. he also by far is the losses leader.
He may pass Dryden for 3rd in shutouts this year, that would be impressive since it crosses eras.
Also makes sense to the Sharks though. NY and LA (if you believe the leaked rumors).
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and there are plenty of reasons to think it can happen.
- Cap space. They got that.
- In contention. They got that.
- Dynamic center for him to play with. They got that.
- Major market... jokes aside, they got that.
- Need at wing. They got that.
- Quality assets to deal. They got that.
In a way it might make the most sense of any option, save for them being in the same division.
It goes without saying that the hall would be massive, though. I think we'd be looking at something like Wahlstrom, Wilde, Beauvillier, and a 1st for Panarin and a 3rd.
Jokes aside, no you really don't
You may wanna be more specific with your retort considering all his points were accurate
Almost all. The Islanders are anything but a major market. It's a small market team by nature.
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and there are plenty of reasons to think it can happen.
- Cap space. They got that.
- In contention. They got that.
- Dynamic center for him to play with. They got that.
- Major market... jokes aside, they got that.
- Need at wing. They got that.
- Quality assets to deal. They got that.
In a way it might make the most sense of any option, save for them being in the same division.
It goes without saying that the hall would be massive, though. I think we'd be looking at something like Wahlstrom, Wilde, Beauvillier, and a 1st for Panarin and a 3rd.
Jokes aside, no you really don't
You may wanna be more specific with your retort considering all his points were accurate
Almost all. The Islanders are anything but a major market. It's a small market team by nature.
Almost all? At least you're not even trying to hide you're trolling
I would definitely trade Johansson, Boyle, Lovejoy, and Kinkaid. I would also be open to trading Vatanen and Miles Wood also for the right price. It sucks that the Devils can't begin extension talks with Hall yet because I would send out feelers to teams seeing what they could get. If Colorado for instance offered the Ottawa 1st round pick, Makar, and a third piece I would seriously consider it.
As you mentioned Blackwood is the future in net but Schneider isn't going anywhere because of his contract. The Devils would have to attach a 1st round pick or a good young player with him to move him which they can't afford to do. What I would do is keep Schneider in the AHL for the rest of this season and bring him to camp hoping that he could at least be a solid backup next year. If he continues to play awful then I would buy him out.
I would think NYI would have large advantage over NYR for Panarin given that hed not likely to want to be part of a very long rebuild but who knows. NHL FA is a hard thing to predict!
I love Boyle also but the issue is he doesn't really fit in with the Devils system. Their all about youth and speed which is obviously not Boyle's game. The Devils also have several good young players in the AHL that could be very good 4th liners with a chance for more (Quenneville, Studenic, McLeod, Lappin, and Bastian)
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and there are plenty of reasons to think it can happen.
- Cap space. They got that.
- In contention. They got that.
- Dynamic center for him to play with. They got that.
- Major market... jokes aside, they got that.
- Need at wing. They got that.
- Quality assets to deal. They got that.
In a way it might make the most sense of any option, save for them being in the same division.
It goes without saying that the hall would be massive, though. I think we'd be looking at something like Wahlstrom, Wilde, Beauvillier, and a 1st for Panarin and a 3rd.
Jokes aside, no you really don't
You may wanna be more specific with your retort considering all his points were accurate
Almost all. The Islanders are anything but a major market. It's a small market team by nature.
Almost all? At least you're not even trying to hide you're trolling
What? How am I trolling? The Islanders aren't a big market team. I'm not really sure how you can argue otherwise. Big market teams: Rangers, Kings, Blackhawks, Maple Leafs, Red Wings, Canadiens, Bruins, Flyers, Capitals.
D Jeremy Davies is having another great season for Northeastern with 19 points in 22 games. The Devils tried to sign him last offseason but he wanted to go back to school for another year. He should sign this year and he could join Ty Smith in the NHL next season.
Penn State C Aarne Talvitie was having a great freshman season with 16 points in 17 games but he is out for the remainder of the season with a knee injury. Penn State seems to really miss his presence in the line up as they were 11-5-1 with him and are now 3-5-1 without him He also captained the goal medal winning team in the WJC.
And finally In Sweden 2017 2nd round pick Jesper Boqvist has progressed as hoped and he could also be in NJ next season. He is a very talented and fast young center which the Devils desperately need due Zacha's disappointing season. Zacha's likely future is on the 3rd or 4th line.
two of the past three years the Islanders spent more on the cap than the Rangers.
two of the past three years the Islanders spent more on the cap than the Rangers.
Very true. I guess big market teams have become synonymous with "desirable locations."
Most teams have spent more than the Rangers. Rangers have torn it all down. I mean the only guy they signed in the offseason was Freddy Claesson. They didn't even make any trades.
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two of the past three years the Islanders spent more on the cap than the Rangers.
Very true. I guess big market teams have become synonymous with "desirable locations."
Most teams have spent more than the Rangers. Rangers have torn it all down. I mean the only guy they signed in the offseason was Freddy Claesson. They didn't even make any trades.
They traded for McQuaid, but I highly doubt he's a Ranger by the end of the season.
Islanders have 5th most cap space.
the two years prior to this the Islanders spent more than the Rangers.
This year the Rangers have spent more than the Islanders.
I still don't think CBJ will trade him to the Isles in-season, but in the offseason I expect they'd make him a big offer with all their cap room and in addition to the $ I'd imagine Barzal + being in the NY area would both be compelling. I'd probably personally prefer Stone or Duchene but any of the 3 would be a home run.
I know I wouldn't trade anything valuable for him between the end of the season and July 1 unless he agreed to an extension which I don't know the rules well, but not sure he legally can (though probably can in principle) until after July 1.
Whether it's as a rental or not, remains to be seen, but I think he is moved.
Vegas, Colorado, NYI, Vancouver, all teams with plenty of space, close to contending or contending, and have good young options to trade.
I can even see the Sharks make a play seeing how they could use Karlsson after the season and that would free up space to sign Panarin.
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and there are plenty of reasons to think it can happen.
- Cap space. They got that.
- In contention. They got that.
- Dynamic center for him to play with. They got that.
- Major market... jokes aside, they got that.
- Need at wing. They got that.
- Quality assets to deal. They got that.
In a way it might make the most sense of any option, save for them being in the same division.
It goes without saying that the hall would be massive, though. I think we'd be looking at something like Wahlstrom, Wilde, Beauvillier, and a 1st for Panarin and a 3rd.
Jokes aside, no you really don't
You may wanna be more specific with your retort considering all his points were accurate
Almost all. The Islanders are anything but a major market. It's a small market team by nature.
Almost all? At least you're not even trying to hide you're trolling
What? How am I trolling? The Islanders aren't a big market team. I'm not really sure how you can argue otherwise. Big market teams: Rangers, Kings, Blackhawks, Maple Leafs, Red Wings, Canadiens, Bruins, Flyers, Capitals.
Apologies - i read your comment wrong. I read it quickly as your response was to almost all of his points.
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but they have the advantage of being located near a very large market. This will be especially true after the new arena is built.
What makes a team a small market? If you're saying revenue and fan base, which is very reasonable, of course.. then sure. But from a player's perspective, he'll be living in the shadow of New York City with the newest arena in the league when it's ready, playing for a team and ownership willing and able to spend at the Cap Ceiling. He wants to "play in a New York or an LA" from what the reports say, and seems to be part of the reason why he's not committing to Columbus. The Islanders are a team that would put him in a major city.
So Anak is right in that the Isles won't be near the top of Forbes' lists of most profitable NHL teams any time soon, but if you're looking to play in a big city, then it would check that box for Panarin.
This is a take that needs to be thrown in the trash.
He has a full NMC and said he's not waiving it. Nothing the Rangers can do.
Nobody is taking that contract. Two years remaining after this one with a $8.5 million dollar cap hit each season is absurd for a 36 year old declining goalie.
D Jeremy Davies is having another great season for Northeastern with 19 points in 22 games. The Devils tried to sign him last offseason but he wanted to go back to school for another year. He should sign this year and he could join Ty Smith in the NHL next season.
Penn State C Aarne Talvitie was having a great freshman season with 16 points in 17 games but he is out for the remainder of the season with a knee injury. Penn State seems to really miss his presence in the line up as they were 11-5-1 with him and are now 3-5-1 without him He also captained the goal medal winning team in the WJC.
And finally In Sweden 2017 2nd round pick Jesper Boqvist has progressed as hoped and he could also be in NJ next season. He is a very talented and fast young center which the Devils desperately need due Zacha's disappointing season. Zacha's likely future is on the 3rd or 4th line.
Yea I agree I defiantely see them building their future on D around Johnson and Davies as soon as next season. Also on top of all the guys you mentioned Fabian Zetterlund seems to have a bright future as well too bad he went down for the rest of the year with a knee injury too. I disagree on Boyle. He is more than just a good 4th liner. I'm sorry but I'd have to see more out of Quennville or Lapin who have been pedestrian at best in their NHL stints and McLeod who has not exactly been lighting worlds on fire with his last 2 seasons on the minors. If we want to see them so bad I'm fine with it but why give them Boyle's spot. You can be as young and fast as you want but what he brings to the table surely can't hurt the team. You don't want a whole line of it but 1 spot is fine. I also probably disagree on Wood. I don't see the return being anything special, he was very solid last year, and yes he had an abysimal start this year but has been playing great the past month. I agree with trading the other guys and I would probably add Andy Green in there too. He has actually been really good this season, probably his best season in the last 3 or 4. I'm sure teams that have been scouting us see it. I don't see him having much more time at this level left. Take advantage of it and deal him.
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Should be trading Lundqvist if they had a half a brain.
Nobody is taking that contract. Two years remaining after this one with a $8.5 million dollar cap hit each season is absurd for a 36 year old declining goalie.
The Rangers could retain all of or a portion of the cap hit (if he was willing to waive his NMC.)
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First. Carlo. Prospect.
If the Rangers get anything close to that, Kreider should be gone and the fans should pay his uber to the airport.
I like Kreider, but Brandon Carlo is a 22 year old future top 4 D (if not already), he's a much better version of Skjei.
plus a 1st and a prospect?
1. Quinn Hughes, D, VAN
2. Martin Necas, C, CAR
3. Owen Tippett, RW, FLA
4. Filip Zadina, RW, DET
5. Barrett Hayton, C, ARI
6. Jordan Kyrou, RW, STL
7. Grigori Denisenko LW, FLA
8. Rasmus Kaspari, C, LAK
9. Cody Glass, C, LVG
10. Cale Makar, D, COL
11. Vitali Kravtsov, RW, NYR
12. Dominik Bokk, RW, STL
13. Troy Terry, RW, ANA
14. Nick Suzuki, C, MTL
15. Ryan Merkley, D, SJS
16. Adam Boqvist, D, CHI
17. Kirill Kaprizov, RW, MIN
18. Noah Dobson, D, NYI
19. Erik Brannstrom, D, LVG
20. Drake Batherson, RW, OTT
21. Bode Wilde, D, NYI
22. Sam Steel, C, ANA
23. Eeli Tolvanen, LW, NSH
24. Evan Bouchard, D, EDM
25. Philippe Myers D, PHI
26. Kristian Vesalainen LW, WIN
From the Athletic, there are write-ups on each player.
I couldn't copy any more.
others on the list from fans teams on here:
Wahlstrom, Iskhakov, Ty Smith, Josh Norris, Ryan Poehling, Adam Fox, Janne Kuokkanen, K'Andre Miller, Formenton, Ylonen, Boqvist,
Shesterkin #1 goalie, Sorokin #3
4 guys in pronmans top 30 (all tradeable for the right player with term)
MDC was an HM and playing well at NHL level
Sorokin #3 goalie (probably wouldn't deal him since he sounds like he wants to come over soon)
And a bunch of guys at BPT doing well enough to justify callups that they don't have room for beyond Toews/MDC/JHS in Aho/Koivula/Bellows.
I'd be pretty surprised if Lou doesn't add someone in the top 6 in the next few weeks. They could have pretty easily matched the Muzzin deal without giving up 1 of the top 4 and it would have been a big upgrade, but I can understand wanting to use the 1st round pick on the bigger need in the top 6.
And Zucc is starting to look like himself again. Three vintage Zucc assists for him. Hopefully building that trade value, sad as its going to be to see him go
Zucc I think has more sentimental value than actual value, but we'll find out. I saw one suggestion a team offered a 3rd for him. If all he gets is a 3rd I'd just keep him and extend him. a team needs veteran leaders, especially an NHL team.
I'd expect at least a 2nd and a prospect for Zucc, but this is shaping up to be one of the most active trade deadlines in recent memory.
1. Quinn Hughes, D, VAN
2. Martin Necas, C, CAR
3. Owen Tippett, RW, FLA
4. Filip Zadina, RW, DET
5. Barrett Hayton, C, ARI
6. Jordan Kyrou, RW, STL
7. Grigori Denisenko LW, FLA
8. Rasmus Kaspari, C, LAK
9. Cody Glass, C, LVG
10. Cale Makar, D, COL
11. Vitali Kravtsov, RW, NYR
12. Dominik Bokk, RW, STL
13. Troy Terry, RW, ANA
14. Nick Suzuki, C, MTL
15. Ryan Merkley, D, SJS
16. Adam Boqvist, D, CHI
17. Kirill Kaprizov, RW, MIN
18. Noah Dobson, D, NYI
19. Erik Brannstrom, D, LVG
20. Drake Batherson, RW, OTT
21. Bode Wilde, D, NYI
22. Sam Steel, C, ANA
23. Eeli Tolvanen, LW, NSH
24. Evan Bouchard, D, EDM
25. Philippe Myers D, PHI
26. Kristian Vesalainen LW, WIN
From the Athletic, there are write-ups on each player.
I couldn't copy any more.
others on the list from fans teams on here:
Wahlstrom, Iskhakov, Ty Smith, Josh Norris, Ryan Poehling, Adam Fox, Janne Kuokkanen, K'Andre Miller, Formenton, Ylonen, Boqvist,
Shesterkin #1 goalie, Sorokin #3
I agree with the OP, Montreal and NYI have been fantastic stories this year. Both were projected to be basement teams by most, likely even among the favorites in the Jack Hughes race with Ottawa. Yet, both have put together amazing first halfs and are playing inspired hockey. Kudos to each of them and I hope they both make the playoffs. Montreal, to me, is a great story also because it was deemed a foregone conclusion that Tampa, Toronto, Boston and Florida were the top 4 in the Atlantic and almost certainly all playoff teams... Including Florida in that group really bugged me, so I am thrilled to see them hanging out with Ottawa & Detroit while Montreal and Buffalo are way ahead of them.
I was torn on Tkachuk, I really liked him, but I thought Zadina would score more and MTL needed that. I have no complaints with Kotkaniemi though, just needs to add weight/strength.
Smart, smart player.
It would not surprise me if the 2018 draft that was thought of as weak compared to 2017 and 2019 drafts, ends up being quite a bit better that expected.
2016: Above average.
2017: Below average.
2018: Average.
2019: Average.
I think he should compete for a spot regardless. Best player on the ice in most of the WJC games he played. I think he should get a 10-game audition in NY and then if they need to send him to Hartford.
Loved his physicality, which is what worries me most when you have 18/19 year old's vs NHL players (and probably why teams start some players in the AHL). And he'll be 20 before next Christmas so I'd give him a chance to crack the NHL lineup to start the season regardless if he plays AHL this year or not.
I think that's the plan. He's not going to see any action with the big club because it'll burn off a year of his ELC.
He can't get a 10-game audition next fall, since he didn't sign an ELC in 2018.
If he signed an ELC in 2018 the Rangers could have had him play up to 9 games with the Rangers in the fall of 2019 and sent him to Hartford if he wasn't ready and not used a year of his ELC.
but because he didn't sign the ELC in 2018 he would use up a year of eligibility with 1 game in NY.
Doesn't matter now I think he's with the Rangers at some point next year regardless.
He can't get a 10-game audition next fall, since he didn't sign an ELC in 2018.
If he signed an ELC in 2018 the Rangers could have had him play up to 9 games with the Rangers in the fall of 2019 and sent him to Hartford if he wasn't ready and not used a year of his ELC.
but because he didn't sign the ELC in 2018 he would use up a year of eligibility with 1 game in NY.
Doesn't matter now I think he's with the Rangers at some point next year regardless.
He can sign a PTO with Hartford
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He can't get a 10-game audition next fall, since he didn't sign an ELC in 2018.
If he signed an ELC in 2018 the Rangers could have had him play up to 9 games with the Rangers in the fall of 2019 and sent him to Hartford if he wasn't ready and not used a year of his ELC.
but because he didn't sign the ELC in 2018 he would use up a year of eligibility with 1 game in NY.
Doesn't matter now I think he's with the Rangers at some point next year regardless.
He can sign a PTO with Hartford
It doesn't matter wrt to his Rangers contract. a PTO is a form of ELC.
If he was 19 the entire year of his NHL ELC he could extend eligibility to a 4th year with less than 10 games in the NHL (ELS - Entry Level Slide contract).
At this point, he turns 20 in 2019 so he cannot do anything but a 3 year NHL ELC no matter what if he plays with the Rangers.
but I am not a contract expert.
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on Kravtsov anyway.
He can't get a 10-game audition next fall, since he didn't sign an ELC in 2018.
If he signed an ELC in 2018 the Rangers could have had him play up to 9 games with the Rangers in the fall of 2019 and sent him to Hartford if he wasn't ready and not used a year of his ELC.
but because he didn't sign the ELC in 2018 he would use up a year of eligibility with 1 game in NY.
Doesn't matter now I think he's with the Rangers at some point next year regardless.
He can sign a PTO with Hartford
It doesn't matter wrt to his Rangers contract. a PTO is a form of ELC.
If he was 19 the entire year of his NHL ELC he could extend eligibility to a 4th year with less than 10 games in the NHL (ELS - Entry Level Slide contract).
At this point, he turns 20 in 2019 so he cannot do anything but a 3 year NHL ELC no matter what if he plays with the Rangers.
but I am not a contract expert.
Kravtsov turned 19 in December. Since he would sign his ELC in 2019, the rules are that a 19 year old that signs his ELC in the same year he turns 20 cant play even one game without losing a year on his ELC. But Hartford, however, can sign him to a PTO where his ELC would slide.
it would not be a pre-condition for me with this player, to play in the AHL before trying out for the Rangers.
I was wrong about the 9 game NHL audition, because of his age. He cannot do that, if he plays 1 NHL game he loses a year of eligibility, so I was not suggesting he play NHL this season at this point, but next fall he'd get every chance to make the team because even if he plays 1 game it costs a whole year.
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Derek Brassard traded to Florida. Part of a bigger deal. Players still being told.
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Brassard shouldnt look for apartments in South Florida. Imagine there is a good chance he is traded again before the deadline. Hes UFA after season and more of a 2nd line type C, which is why it didnt work in Pittsburgh. Panthers have Barkov and Trocheck.
Bjustad never the same after that horrific injury in the Islanders playoff series. Not sure why that seems to have been a career ender, but the numbers were promising up until that point.
There is a link below...this guy is a good follow on twitter for fans who like to see these
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It remains to be seen if the ridiculous goaltending can continue, but it's hard to imagine both guys will fall off a cliff if the defense remains strong.
Even the Canadiens, last year Carey Price was very average (or worse) when he was healthy.
This year, especially lately, has been lights out.
Is it a coincidence that Shea Weber is back and that has coincided with Price's revival?
Last year Islanders D were brutal, this year, with a new coach and system D that everyone felt shouldn't be that bad, are playing like people expected and it's bleeding into the goalie performance.
Sometimes a goalie can play "above" the D, but sometimes the D is so bad they cannot.
And when I say D, even though I called out Shea Weber, I mean the whole team. Good defensive Centers are probably as much of an impact on D as defenseman.
I don't think people knew about his mental health issues which maybe explains why he hasn't broken out yet.
If he can manage those then maybe he is legit.
I don't think people knew about his mental health issues which maybe explains why he hasn't broken out yet.
If he can manage those then maybe he is legit.
Yea there aren't too many goalies who have twice been traded for 1st round picks (which tells you how teams felt about him both good and bad). If you squint his first 2 years in Buffalo weren't too far off statistically despite what was likely much worse defense, so I agree PJ - if he's truly turned a corner off the ice this could be a legit breakout.
You have to give Mitch Korn credit there too. When Trotz left Washington, he brought korn with him. Islanders ownership paid Korn premium dollars to be head goalie coach and even gave Korn his own subordinates. It was a big investment in money, and it's paid off.
Islanders should try to extend Lehner. With rumblings that Sorokin is coming over next year, Greiss would would be a nice little trade chip (Isles could get maybe $2.5M of cap relief and maybe a third round pick or so) for a contending team needing a good backup goalie or even a 1A.
If Skjei hadn't had such a shitty year, I would've been open to moving him for Marner
yup and Marner's agent is already running his mouth. I think they will get him signed because the range of his contract is actually really simple to slot in now, but it's hard to see how the rest of the team isn't gutted. Resigning Nylander was a terrible decision.
From what I saw, they project to have about $10m in cap room next summer with only 14 guys under contract and with Marner/Kapanen/Gardiner all unsigned. I don't think anyone will offer sheet Marner at the 4 first round pick level, so that would mean his floor contract is around 10m but more likely he will get close to Matthews (11.5) and Tavares (11). How they create room beyond that is anyone's guess.
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not a coincidence that at each stop Trotz has had a hand in developing guys like Vokoun + Rinne + Holtby. Just didn't think it was likely with Lehner and Greiss. Still don't think it's sustainable for Greiss, but Lehner may actually be for real and the perfect fit for Trotz. He's huge, positionally sound, and his rebound control has been great.
You have to give Mitch Korn credit there too. When Trotz left Washington, he brought korn with him. Islanders ownership paid Korn premium dollars to be head goalie coach and even gave Korn his own subordinates. It was a big investment in money, and it's paid off.
Islanders should try to extend Lehner. With rumblings that Sorokin is coming over next year, Greiss would would be a nice little trade chip (Isles could get maybe $2.5M of cap relief and maybe a third round pick or so) for a contending team needing a good backup goalie or even a 1A.
Definitely. Convincing Korn to leave Washington was huge.
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NSH and NJ working to finalize a trade to send Brian Boyle from the Devils to the Predators.
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I don't think it's steep for NSH, I was hoping it was the kind of move the Canadiens would make. 4th line upgrade, can help the PP, even the PK, Boyle can help with it all and even move up a line if there are injuries.
2nd would be steep for MTL, since I don't think they're a cup contender this year, but not for NSH.
Gotta think there's going to be a lot of movement once Ottawa makes decisions on who they are dealing. Last year I believe something like 5 or 6 first round picks exchanged hands. Lot of guys potentially worth 1st round picks this year with Duchene, Stone, Panarin, BOB, Simmonds, Hayes, Nyquist, Ferland etc.
And on the flip side, Toronto/SJ already dealt their firsts, and a bunch of teams who dealt theirs last year may be more hesitant to do so again this year. I think the Islanders are really likely to move theirs and it looks like there should be a pretty big upgrade available. I'm hoping it brings back someone with term like Brayden Schenn, but I wouldn't be upset if they went big for Stone or Panarin.
Goes from 40 pts as a 19 year old and never really improved.
Still like him as a puck mover, top 4 D.
I think ANA tries to move him - they are in a cap jam, and have a bad team.
7th rounder is in 2020.
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How would they have the ammo to land him?
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I wonder if they make a play for Bobrovsky to try and salvage another year of Sid/Geno/Philk
How would they have the ammo to land him?
Bobrovsky is a rental. Not sure what it would take to get him. I'm very bad at predicting trade value.
1st round pick I'm guessing. Maybe a bottom part of their top 10 prospects.
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I wonder if they make a play for Bobrovsky to try and salvage another year of Sid/Geno/Philk
How would they have the ammo to land him?
Bobrovsky is a rental. Not sure what it would take to get him. I'm very bad at predicting trade value.
1st round pick I'm guessing. Maybe a bottom part of their top 10 prospects.
Ya, I'm not too great either. They also seem to always make the cap work
big loss.
Not a huge point guy, but 55% on the dots, and #2C, #2 PP unit, and PK. Hard to replace that.
They are holding on to a WC spot right now, but I wonder if this makes them buyers or sellers (I doubt it changes nothing).
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I wonder if they make a play for Bobrovsky to try and salvage another year of Sid/Geno/Philk
How would they have the ammo to land him?
No, because when we play him in the playoffs, he already plays for us.
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Zuccarello in an Fishstick uniform would make me vomit. I mean still better than a Flyers or Penguins jersey, but still.
Plus if players like Duchene and Stone hit the market it could swing a little bit to a buyers market, right now it's not.
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There is word today Artemis Panarin has joined teammate Sergei Bobrovskys agent, Paul Theofanous. This is going to lead to plenty of speculation they could be a package deal in free agency. We will see how it plays out.
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Plus if players like Duchene and Stone hit the market it could swing a little bit to a buyers market, right now it's not.
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There is word today Artemis Panarin has joined teammate Sergei Bobrovskys agent, Paul Theofanous. This is going to lead to plenty of speculation they could be a package deal in free agency. We will see how it plays out.
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If it's a package deal, Carolina and the Islanders come to mind as teams that have needs there and would be able to fit both in. Rangers obviously would love Panarin and he would love to come to NY, but they obviously have no need for Bob.
Plus if players like Duchene and Stone hit the market it could swing a little bit to a buyers market, right now it's not.
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There is word today Artemis Panarin has joined teammate Sergei Bobrovskys agent, Paul Theofanous. This is going to lead to plenty of speculation they could be a package deal in free agency. We will see how it plays out.
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If it's a package deal, Carolina and the Islanders come to mind as teams that have needs there and would be able to fit both in. Rangers obviously would love Panarin and he would love to come to NY, but needless to say, they don't need Bob.
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I heard during Habs Jets intermission last night the asking price for Panarin is absurd. especially as a rental. Didn't get into details, but as the next two weeks go by I wonder if it drops.
Plus if players like Duchene and Stone hit the market it could swing a little bit to a buyers market, right now it's not.
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There is word today Artemis Panarin has joined teammate Sergei Bobrovskys agent, Paul Theofanous. This is going to lead to plenty of speculation they could be a package deal in free agency. We will see how it plays out.
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If it's a package deal, Carolina and the Islanders come to mind as teams that have needs there and would be able to fit both in. Rangers obviously would love Panarin and he would love to come to NY, but needless to say, they don't need Bob.
Maybe a 3-team trade. I don't think the Rangers will or should pursue Panarin as a rental, but in a 3-team trade they could get him without Bob.
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I heard during Habs Jets intermission last night the asking price for Panarin is absurd. especially as a rental. Didn't get into details, but as the next two weeks go by I wonder if it drops.
Plus if players like Duchene and Stone hit the market it could swing a little bit to a buyers market, right now it's not.
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There is word today Artemis Panarin has joined teammate Sergei Bobrovskys agent, Paul Theofanous. This is going to lead to plenty of speculation they could be a package deal in free agency. We will see how it plays out.
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If it's a package deal, Carolina and the Islanders come to mind as teams that have needs there and would be able to fit both in. Rangers obviously would love Panarin and he would love to come to NY, but needless to say, they don't need Bob.
Maybe a 3-team trade. I don't think the Rangers will or should pursue Panarin as a rental, but in a 3-team trade they could get him without Bob.
Right, but I'm talking about free agency. Rangers obviously have no need to rent Panarin until the end of the year.
Panarin's new agent also represents Kravtsov so the Rangers brass will be talking with the agent anyway.
too much competition in free agency.
Especially if it only cost veterans the Rangers weren't going to extend anyway (and picks).
Say Columbus wanted Zucc and 1st and a 3rd piece. Wouldn't that make sense for the Rangers if they could extend Panarin (obviously depending who the 3rd piece was).
Paying out a huge cap hit to Bobo would make zero sense for the Islanders given their other needs (#2 center and power play finisher).
I expect the Islanders to offer as much money and term for Panarin as anyone.
I see no way that makes sense.
probably just lazy pondering.
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Caps still on Kings beat....
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Kovulchuck to either Pitt or wash would be interesting
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Kovulchuck to either Pitt or wash would be interesting
He looks like a PP only guy to me, not sure PIT needs him with Crosby, Malkin and Kessel, but maybe WAS is a fit.
He took a penalty in OT today that led to the Bruins winning goal.
I do think he could get moved though. He has a NMC but I suspect he wants to play for a contender.
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Wisconsins KAndre Miller (NYR) went coast to coast, lost his footing and slammed hard into the boards. Was down for a few minutes, putting no weight on left leg as he goes off. Does not look good for one of the best freshmen Dmen in the country. Headed to room.
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Wisconsins KAndre Miller (NYR) went coast to coast, lost his footing and slammed hard into the boards. Was down for a few minutes, putting no weight on left leg as he goes off. Does not look good for one of the best freshmen Dmen in the country. Headed to room.
10:23 PM - 9 Feb 2019
hope for the best, hate to see the kids injured.
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Latest from Wisconsin on freshman D K'Andre Miller (NYR), after a hard crash into the boards Saturday, is that he is out this week, dealing with soreness. Due to be reevaluated later today. Sounds like it's not as serious as it looked like it could be Saturday night.
thats a relief. Thank you for the update
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"The knee is fine," Granato said, "but he's banged up pretty good, so he's going to be reevaluated this afternoon."
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McQuaid is on that list; so is Simmonds, As usual, they provide analytical rationale.
I wouldn't. A 1st isn't likely to be as good as Hayes, and B/C prospects are a dime a dozen. Get me a top 4 RH defenseman and a 1st and we can talk.
I'd trade both, but I can see a case made for keeping Hayes.
I think Zucc is gone and should be. Not saying he's a bad player by any stretch, but if you're going to rebuild you do it by getting younger and more flexible on the salary cap.
Mark Stone is apparently gone. No doubt will be moved.
They are deciding today (allegedly) if they will trade Matt Duchene too.
The reason the NYR veterans are tied to OTT and CBJ is b/c Panarin, Stone and Duchene would be option #1, #2, and #3 for any team looking for top 6 forward depth. All three are better than Hayes and Zucc and similarly aged to Hayes.
Panarin being shopped though is trickier since CBJ is still in the playoff race.