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NFT: NHL Second Half - Trade Deadline - And More

pjcas18 : 1/29/2019 2:39 pm
Technically past the literal halfway point, but the AS break is over and onto the next part of the season.

Standings:

Biggest surprises to me are:

Islanders: even with a down year for the Metro the Islanders weren't supposed to be here, and they may not be at the end, but they are now. A +25 goal differential is not a fluke for the standings.

Canadiens: Bergevin takes a ton of shit for the failed Subban trade (and deservedly so), but his Galchenyuk and Paccioretty trades have worked beautifully and even though I was surprised to see Kotkaniemi taken ahead of Zadina and Tkachuk I see why, he's a better player. They left the world juniors with the best forward, best defenseman, and could have had best goalie. Things in hockey can turn around quickly. Unlike the Islanders I don't think the Canadiens can sustain their playoff spot, but I didn't think they'd be here either.

Avalanche:
We all knew MacKinnon was a superstar but that top line is flying, they have some good prospects, and they have a lot of youth, needle pointing up for the Avs, but didn't expect them to show results so soon.

could be more, but those to me are three of the biggest 1st half surprises.


Deadline:

Leafs acquired Muzzin from LA for a 1st. I don't think Muzzin is worth a 1st, he's solid, but not great, but Toronto needs D and he's better than most of their D other than Rielly. Makes them a contender if they weren't already. This is a trade if I am TOR I make every time.

Anakim will be happy (or not) that Panarin said he will not negotiate with the BJ's who had made public that they were willing to discuss a LT deal, so he's likely (if not guaranteed) to be traded. Downside for Rangers fans would be if he signs with his new team.

Other rumored names to be dealt:
Wayne Simmonds (and anyone on the Flyers not named Giroux or Hart)

Bobrovsky - should be a lot of interest, even in a down year for him

Here is a list from NHL.com:

FORWARDS

Mark Stone, RW, OTT
Current Yahoo rank: 37
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Chris Kreider, LW, NYR
Current Yahoo rank: 48
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2020

Artemi Panarin, LW, CBJ
Current Yahoo rank: 60
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Micheal Ferland, LW/RW, CAR
Current Yahoo rank: 84
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Gustav Nyquist, LW/RW, DET
Current Yahoo rank: 102
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Eric Staal, C, MIN
Current Yahoo rank: 105
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Matt Duchene, C, OTT
Current Yahoo rank: 123
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Evgenii Dadonov, LW/RW, FLA
Current Yahoo rank: 129
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2020

Kasperi Kapanen, RW, TOR
Current Yahoo rank: 131
Contract status: Potential RFA in 2019

Kevin Hayes, C, NYR
Current Yahoo rank: 157
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Jeff Carter, C, LAK
Current Yahoo rank: 174
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2022

Wayne Simmonds, RW, PHI
Current Yahoo rank: 189
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Brayden Schenn, C, STL
Current Yahoo rank: 194
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2020

Andreas Johnsson, LW, TOR
Current Yahoo rank: 254
Contract status: Potential RFA in 2019

Jordan Eberle, C/RW, NYI
Current Yahoo rank: 310
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Mats Zuccarello, RW, NYR
Current Yahoo rank: 350
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Jakob Silfverberg, RW, ANA
Current Yahoo rank: 376
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Jason Spezza, C, DAL
Current Yahoo rank: 395
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Derick Brassard, C, PIT
Current Yahoo rank: 420
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Nick Bjugstad, C/LW/RW, FLA
Current Yahoo rank: 423
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2021

Ilya Kovalchuk, LW/RW, LAK
Current Yahoo rank: 431
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2021

Brandon Pirri, C/LW, VGK
Current Yahoo rank: 477
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Marcus Johansson, LW, NJD
Current Yahoo rank: 515
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Andre Burakovsky, LW/RW, WSH
Current Yahoo rank: 570
Contract status: Potential RFA in 2019

Jesse Puljujarvi, RW, EDM
Current Yahoo rank: 644
Contract status: Potential RFA in 2019

William Nylander, C/RW, TOR
Current Yahoo rank: 712
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2024



DEFENSEMEN

Dougie Hamilton, CAR
Current Yahoo rank: 141
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2021

Justin Faulk, CAR
Current Yahoo rank: 155
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2020

Alexander Edler, VAN
Current Yahoo rank: 196
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Colton Parayko, STL
Current Yahoo rank: 207
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2022

Jake Gardiner, TOR
Current Yahoo rank: 241
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Alex Pietrangelo, STL
Current Yahoo rank: 364
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2020

Alec Martinez, LAK
Current Yahoo rank: 509
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2021



GOALIES

Sergei Bobrovsky, CBJ
Current Yahoo rank: 191
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Jimmy Howard, DET
Current Yahoo rank: 170
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Semyon Varlamov, COL
Current Yahoo rank: 233
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Mike Smith, CGY
Current Yahoo rank: 389
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019

Cam Talbot, EDM
Current Yahoo rank: 596
Contract status: Potential UFA in 2019
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Should be a busy deadline for New York R  
Anakim : 1/29/2019 2:44 pm : link
It's all but guaranteed that Zucc will be gone. Hayes? I'd say 60-40 he goes. McQuaid will be gone. Hopefully a contender wants to pick up Staal. I think they keep Kreider, Shattenkirk and Zibanejad.
If the Rangers  
Gman11 : 1/29/2019 2:45 pm : link
trade Kreider, they're nuts.

And, Dougie Hamilton available? He stinks. I've watched quite a few Canes games and he makes Keith Yandle look like a shutdown defenseman.
Calgary is a big surprise too  
timintey : 1/29/2019 2:45 pm : link
The deal with Carolina has really worked out well for them
I expected  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2019 2:47 pm : link
Calgary to be a playoff team, but agree, 1st place and a +45 goal differential is a surprise.

Rittich has stepped up for them in a major way.
Fuck the Oilers for firing Chiarelli  
Anakim : 1/29/2019 2:47 pm : link
They helped the Devils out with Hall
They helped the Islanders out with Eberle
Where's our fleecing!?!? And no, Spooner for Strome doesn't compare to the former two.
I do think it's possible  
Kyle in NY : 1/29/2019 2:48 pm : link
Columbus holds onto Panarin and tries to make a run with him. Tough situation there, a franchise desperate to finally win a playoff series. How can they trade him? But then again, they cannot afford to lose him for nothing.

Hopefully he's heading for NYC in July regardless.
lot of guys on that list who can help the Isles but E Staal stands out  
Eric on Li : 1/29/2019 2:50 pm : link
put him on L2, knock Nelson off the PP to more of a line 3 role. He'd immediately be the best faceoff guy on the team. Would fit right in with the style the Isles play and would add some size. Minny is currently in the playoff picture but maybe they'd be willing to take back Eberle as part of the deal.

I doubt the Isles are willing to risk the price of a top tier rental but Stone would literally be a perfect fit next to Barzal.
RE: lot of guys on that list who can help the Isles but E Staal stands out  
Anakim : 1/29/2019 2:52 pm : link
In comment 14280227 Eric on Li said:
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Been there; done that
Panarin would be a great fit on the Island  
Metnut : 1/29/2019 2:55 pm : link
and Isles have the cap room to offer him a monster extension. With Panarin, Isles would have a great shot against any of the other metro teams (they might even have a great shot without him).

The question is whether it makes sense to trade for him now or just sign him in July.
One other thing to consider  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2019 3:00 pm : link
is the latest NHL fad of trading for cap $$. Canadiens traded with Winnipeg to take on Steve Mason's contract.

They immediately waived Mason, but for their efforts got Joel Armia who is a solid top 9 forward, and a couple draft picks.

12 teams with less than $3M in cap space I believe.

Look for teams with space to make moves now even for just draft picks while accepting a bad contract.
RE: Panarin would be a great fit on the Island  
Eric on Li : 1/29/2019 3:12 pm : link
In comment 14280232 Metnut said:
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and Isles have the cap room to offer him a monster extension. With Panarin, Isles would have a great shot against any of the other metro teams (they might even have a great shot without him).

The question is whether it makes sense to trade for him now or just sign him in July.


I doubt Columbus would send him here right now. Maybe if they fall off the earth in the next couple weeks, but if they trade him I'd guess it will be out west to a team they don't need to jump in the standings (or could face in the playoffs).
RE: RE: lot of guys on that list who can help the Isles but E Staal stands out  
Gman11 : 1/29/2019 3:15 pm : link
In comment 14280229 Anakim said:
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In comment 14280227 Eric on Li said:

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Been there; done that


I have to think during his time with the Rangers he just wasn't right physically. I know he had a shoulder problem and he went from doing nothing with the Rangers to lighting it up on the Wild
I think Columbus  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2019 3:16 pm : link
will trade him as close to the deadline as possible, but I do believe they will trade him.

It seems all but certain he's gone in FA, so I think they'll try and get something for him.
That  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2019 3:16 pm : link
was about Panarin
Islanders  
theold5j : 1/29/2019 3:48 pm : link
can definitely use help on the PP. Not sure if that's in execution or personnel. I think they lack the big shot, which they have in Pulock, but he doesn't get a lot of PP time. Whatever the reason who am I to question the coaches.

As PJ said, the numbers don't lie. Goal differential is amazing.

For those that are watching them from afar, Trotz has pushed the right button on his goalie 95% of the time. He's been dead on as to who plays when.

Part of me wants to see a trade to improve the team, but part of me doesn't want to see the chemistry broken up. Collectively they have been amazing as proof of their place in the standings. I trust in whatever Lou and Trotz have up their sleeve.
RE: Fuck the Oilers for firing Chiarelli  
JayBinQueens : 1/29/2019 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14280223 Anakim said:
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They helped the Devils out with Hall
They helped the Islanders out with Eberle
Where's our fleecing!?!? And no, Spooner for Strome doesn't compare to the former two.

And Barzal, and Beauvillier
Any chance that the Rangers trade for Panarin  
yatqb : 1/29/2019 4:43 pm : link
with Hayes and a pick as the key pieces? Of course they'd have to do a sign and trade or be allowed to negotiate a new contract with him before making such a deal.
I think Kreider goes if the right deal comes along  
Vanzetti : 1/29/2019 5:11 pm : link
He is probably the best player available in terms of playoff hockey because of his size/speed

The good thing is they don't have to trade h8im because he has a year left.

Zucc is gone but won't bring back as much. I think Hayes is undervalued by that Yahoo ranking
Teams  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2019 5:13 pm : link
should be hesitant IMO to give up a lot for Panarin, because unless it's a location he wants to be I doubt he entertains a LT offer before free agency.
I'd love for the Isles to get Panarin  
Mike in Long Beach : 1/29/2019 5:31 pm : link
and there are plenty of reasons to think it can happen.

- Cap space. They got that.
- In contention. They got that.
- Dynamic center for him to play with. They got that.
- Major market... jokes aside, they got that.
- Need at wing. They got that.
- Quality assets to deal. They got that.

In a way it might make the most sense of any option, save for them being in the same division.

It goes without saying that the hall would be massive, though. I think we'd be looking at something like Wahlstrom, Wilde, Beauvillier, and a 1st for Panarin and a 3rd.
Canadiens are better  
snickers : 1/29/2019 6:38 pm : link
I agree they are a surprise but their goal tending with Price has been nothing short of top notch. To me, he is a big reason for their improvement. Add to that better defensive pairings with the return of Weber and together they make the team better. I think, as opposed to you, that they make the playoffs, time will tell.
Really glad to see Trotz making such a big difference...  
tony stg : 1/29/2019 6:41 pm : link
... for NYI. Happy for him and wish success.

The AS break could not have come at a better time for the Caps. They need to figure out their defense and make sure they get into the group of 8.
RE: I'd love for the Isles to get Panarin  
Anakim : 1/29/2019 7:01 pm : link
In comment 14280427 Mike in Long Beach said:
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and there are plenty of reasons to think it can happen.

- Cap space. They got that.
- In contention. They got that.
- Dynamic center for him to play with. They got that.
- Major market... jokes aside, they got that.
- Need at wing. They got that.
- Quality assets to deal. They got that.

In a way it might make the most sense of any option, save for them being in the same division.

It goes without saying that the hall would be massive, though. I think we'd be looking at something like Wahlstrom, Wilde, Beauvillier, and a 1st for Panarin and a 3rd.


Jokes aside, no you really don't
RE: RE: I'd love for the Isles to get Panarin  
JayBinQueens : 1/29/2019 7:36 pm : link
In comment 14280489 Anakim said:
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In comment 14280427 Mike in Long Beach said:


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and there are plenty of reasons to think it can happen.

- Cap space. They got that.
- In contention. They got that.
- Dynamic center for him to play with. They got that.
- Major market... jokes aside, they got that.
- Need at wing. They got that.
- Quality assets to deal. They got that.

In a way it might make the most sense of any option, save for them being in the same division.

It goes without saying that the hall would be massive, though. I think we'd be looking at something like Wahlstrom, Wilde, Beauvillier, and a 1st for Panarin and a 3rd.



Jokes aside, no you really don't


You may wanna be more specific with your retort considering all his points were accurate
RE: Canadiens are better  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2019 9:45 pm : link
In comment 14280471 snickers said:
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I agree they are a surprise but their goal tending with Price has been nothing short of top notch. To me, he is a big reason for their improvement. Add to that better defensive pairings with the return of Weber and together they make the team better. I think, as opposed to you, that they make the playoffs, time will tell.


Price has been great lately, but overall on the season, not so much, and one again he's playing with an injury.

Hard to believe he passed Patrick Roy for wins, though wins now are a little different than when there were ties.

Roy has 130 ties/ot shootout losses (not sure how many were ties).

Price just needs 9 more wins to pass Jacque Plante for #1 in Habs history. he also by far is the losses leader.

He may pass Dryden for 3rd in shutouts this year, that would be impressive since it crosses eras.

Panarin to the Islanders  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2019 9:46 pm : link
makes a lot of sense.

Also makes sense to the Sharks though. NY and LA (if you believe the leaked rumors).
or  
pjcas18 : 1/29/2019 9:47 pm : link
San Jose, but not far from LA.
RE: RE: RE: I'd love for the Isles to get Panarin  
Anakim : 1/30/2019 3:29 am : link
In comment 14280516 JayBinQueens said:
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In comment 14280427 Mike in Long Beach said:


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and there are plenty of reasons to think it can happen.

- Cap space. They got that.
- In contention. They got that.
- Dynamic center for him to play with. They got that.
- Major market... jokes aside, they got that.
- Need at wing. They got that.
- Quality assets to deal. They got that.

In a way it might make the most sense of any option, save for them being in the same division.

It goes without saying that the hall would be massive, though. I think we'd be looking at something like Wahlstrom, Wilde, Beauvillier, and a 1st for Panarin and a 3rd.



Jokes aside, no you really don't



You may wanna be more specific with your retort considering all his points were accurate



Almost all. The Islanders are anything but a major market. It's a small market team by nature.
My Advice for my Devils:  
Stu11 : 1/30/2019 9:03 am : link
Sell Sell Sell. We'll have to figure out the goaltending going forward. Kinkaid is a UFA so I'd deal him if we can get something at the deadline. Obviously Schneider is the 6,000,000 gorilla in the room with that contract. Blackwood is probably the guy going forward but they have to play Schneider down the stretch and try and resuscitate his trade value somehow. Otherwise I'd look to deal the vets. Boyle is a UFA but I love this things he does and he's such a good influence on the kids I'd look to keep him around or at least re-sign him if we deal him.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I'd love for the Isles to get Panarin  
JayBinQueens : 1/30/2019 9:16 am : link
In comment 14280668 Anakim said:
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In comment 14280489 Anakim said:


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In comment 14280427 Mike in Long Beach said:


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and there are plenty of reasons to think it can happen.

- Cap space. They got that.
- In contention. They got that.
- Dynamic center for him to play with. They got that.
- Major market... jokes aside, they got that.
- Need at wing. They got that.
- Quality assets to deal. They got that.

In a way it might make the most sense of any option, save for them being in the same division.

It goes without saying that the hall would be massive, though. I think we'd be looking at something like Wahlstrom, Wilde, Beauvillier, and a 1st for Panarin and a 3rd.



Jokes aside, no you really don't



You may wanna be more specific with your retort considering all his points were accurate




Almost all. The Islanders are anything but a major market. It's a small market team by nature.


Almost all? At least you're not even trying to hide you're trolling
RE: My Advice for my Devils:  
Jay on the Island : 1/30/2019 9:25 am : link
In comment 14280742 Stu11 said:
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Sell Sell Sell. We'll have to figure out the goaltending going forward. Kinkaid is a UFA so I'd deal him if we can get something at the deadline. Obviously Schneider is the 6,000,000 gorilla in the room with that contract. Blackwood is probably the guy going forward but they have to play Schneider down the stretch and try and resuscitate his trade value somehow. Otherwise I'd look to deal the vets. Boyle is a UFA but I love this things he does and he's such a good influence on the kids I'd look to keep him around or at least re-sign him if we deal him.

I would definitely trade Johansson, Boyle, Lovejoy, and Kinkaid. I would also be open to trading Vatanen and Miles Wood also for the right price. It sucks that the Devils can't begin extension talks with Hall yet because I would send out feelers to teams seeing what they could get. If Colorado for instance offered the Ottawa 1st round pick, Makar, and a third piece I would seriously consider it.

As you mentioned Blackwood is the future in net but Schneider isn't going anywhere because of his contract. The Devils would have to attach a 1st round pick or a good young player with him to move him which they can't afford to do. What I would do is keep Schneider in the AHL for the rest of this season and bring him to camp hoping that he could at least be a solid backup next year. If he continues to play awful then I would buy him out.
Islanders are sort of a small market team  
Metnut : 1/30/2019 10:09 am : link
but they have the advantage of being located near a very large market. This will be especially true after the new arena is built.

I would think NYI would have large advantage over NYR for Panarin given that hed not likely to want to be part of a very long rebuild but who knows. NHL FA is a hard thing to predict!
RE: My Advice for my Devils:  
Jay on the Island : 1/30/2019 10:18 am : link
In comment 14280742 Stu11 said:
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Sell Sell Sell. We'll have to figure out the goaltending going forward. Kinkaid is a UFA so I'd deal him if we can get something at the deadline. Obviously Schneider is the 6,000,000 gorilla in the room with that contract. Blackwood is probably the guy going forward but they have to play Schneider down the stretch and try and resuscitate his trade value somehow. Otherwise I'd look to deal the vets. Boyle is a UFA but I love this things he does and he's such a good influence on the kids I'd look to keep him around or at least re-sign him if we deal him.

I love Boyle also but the issue is he doesn't really fit in with the Devils system. Their all about youth and speed which is obviously not Boyle's game. The Devils also have several good young players in the AHL that could be very good 4th liners with a chance for more (Quenneville, Studenic, McLeod, Lappin, and Bastian)
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'd love for the Isles to get Panarin  
Anakim : 1/30/2019 10:28 am : link
In comment 14280754 JayBinQueens said:
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and there are plenty of reasons to think it can happen.

- Cap space. They got that.
- In contention. They got that.
- Dynamic center for him to play with. They got that.
- Major market... jokes aside, they got that.
- Need at wing. They got that.
- Quality assets to deal. They got that.

In a way it might make the most sense of any option, save for them being in the same division.

It goes without saying that the hall would be massive, though. I think we'd be looking at something like Wahlstrom, Wilde, Beauvillier, and a 1st for Panarin and a 3rd.



Jokes aside, no you really don't



You may wanna be more specific with your retort considering all his points were accurate




Almost all. The Islanders are anything but a major market. It's a small market team by nature.



Almost all? At least you're not even trying to hide you're trolling


What? How am I trolling? The Islanders aren't a big market team. I'm not really sure how you can argue otherwise. Big market teams: Rangers, Kings, Blackhawks, Maple Leafs, Red Wings, Canadiens, Bruins, Flyers, Capitals.
Stu  
Jay on the Island : 1/30/2019 10:33 am : link
There is some good news on the horizon. 2018 1st round pick Ty Smith is having a great season in the WHL. He is in his first slump having 0 points in the last 3 games but he still leads the league defensemen in assists and is 2 points behind the league leader in points but he has played 12 fewer games.

D Jeremy Davies is having another great season for Northeastern with 19 points in 22 games. The Devils tried to sign him last offseason but he wanted to go back to school for another year. He should sign this year and he could join Ty Smith in the NHL next season.

Penn State C Aarne Talvitie was having a great freshman season with 16 points in 17 games but he is out for the remainder of the season with a knee injury. Penn State seems to really miss his presence in the line up as they were 11-5-1 with him and are now 3-5-1 without him He also captained the goal medal winning team in the WJC.

And finally In Sweden 2017 2nd round pick Jesper Boqvist has progressed as hoped and he could also be in NJ next season. He is a very talented and fast young center which the Devils desperately need due Zacha's disappointing season. Zacha's likely future is on the 3rd or 4th line.
Big Market  
pjcas18 : 1/30/2019 10:39 am : link
is less meaningful when there is a salary cap.

two of the past three years the Islanders spent more on the cap than the Rangers.


RE: Big Market  
Anakim : 1/30/2019 10:42 am : link
In comment 14280850 pjcas18 said:
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is less meaningful when there is a salary cap.

two of the past three years the Islanders spent more on the cap than the Rangers.



Very true. I guess big market teams have become synonymous with "desirable locations."

Most teams have spent more than the Rangers. Rangers have torn it all down. I mean the only guy they signed in the offseason was Freddy Claesson. They didn't even make any trades.
RE: RE: Big Market  
Anakim : 1/30/2019 10:42 am : link
In comment 14280854 Anakim said:
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is less meaningful when there is a salary cap.

two of the past three years the Islanders spent more on the cap than the Rangers.





Very true. I guess big market teams have become synonymous with "desirable locations."

Most teams have spent more than the Rangers. Rangers have torn it all down. I mean the only guy they signed in the offseason was Freddy Claesson. They didn't even make any trades.


They traded for McQuaid, but I highly doubt he's a Ranger by the end of the season.
This year  
pjcas18 : 1/30/2019 10:53 am : link
the Rangers have the 7th least cap room (right now).

Islanders have 5th most cap space.

the two years prior to this the Islanders spent more than the Rangers.

This year the Rangers have spent more than the Islanders.
the other thing NYI has is Lamoriello's track record w Russians  
Eric on Li : 1/30/2019 12:31 pm : link
he supposedly had a great relationship with Kovalchuk, Sorokin looks to be trying to actively come over now and his agent has been having conversations directly with Lamoriello, so he definitely brings credibility they didn't have in previous years.

I still don't think CBJ will trade him to the Isles in-season, but in the offseason I expect they'd make him a big offer with all their cap room and in addition to the $ I'd imagine Barzal + being in the NY area would both be compelling. I'd probably personally prefer Stone or Duchene but any of the 3 would be a home run.
If Panarin  
pjcas18 : 1/30/2019 12:36 pm : link
is set to be a free agent on July 1, how much would a team actually trade for him after the season?

I know I wouldn't trade anything valuable for him between the end of the season and July 1 unless he agreed to an extension which I don't know the rules well, but not sure he legally can (though probably can in principle) until after July 1.
I think it's  
pjcas18 : 1/30/2019 12:38 pm : link
highly likely Panarin is traded before the deadline.

Whether it's as a rental or not, remains to be seen, but I think he is moved.

Vegas, Colorado, NYI, Vancouver, all teams with plenty of space, close to contending or contending, and have good young options to trade.

I can even see the Sharks make a play seeing how they could use Karlsson after the season and that would free up space to sign Panarin.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'd love for the Isles to get Panarin  
JayBinQueens : 1/30/2019 12:43 pm : link
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and there are plenty of reasons to think it can happen.

- Cap space. They got that.
- In contention. They got that.
- Dynamic center for him to play with. They got that.
- Major market... jokes aside, they got that.
- Need at wing. They got that.
- Quality assets to deal. They got that.

In a way it might make the most sense of any option, save for them being in the same division.

It goes without saying that the hall would be massive, though. I think we'd be looking at something like Wahlstrom, Wilde, Beauvillier, and a 1st for Panarin and a 3rd.



Jokes aside, no you really don't



You may wanna be more specific with your retort considering all his points were accurate




Almost all. The Islanders are anything but a major market. It's a small market team by nature.



Almost all? At least you're not even trying to hide you're trolling



What? How am I trolling? The Islanders aren't a big market team. I'm not really sure how you can argue otherwise. Big market teams: Rangers, Kings, Blackhawks, Maple Leafs, Red Wings, Canadiens, Bruins, Flyers, Capitals.

Apologies - i read your comment wrong. I read it quickly as your response was to almost all of his points.

Hahaha don't let Anak pull the wool over your eyes, Jay  
Mike in Long Beach : 1/30/2019 1:27 pm : link
He was definitely trolling. But I think Metnut nailed what my intention was with that bullet point.

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Islanders are sort of a small market team
Metnut : 10:09 am : link : reply
but they have the advantage of being located near a very large market. This will be especially true after the new arena is built.


What makes a team a small market? If you're saying revenue and fan base, which is very reasonable, of course.. then sure. But from a player's perspective, he'll be living in the shadow of New York City with the newest arena in the league when it's ready, playing for a team and ownership willing and able to spend at the Cap Ceiling. He wants to "play in a New York or an LA" from what the reports say, and seems to be part of the reason why he's not committing to Columbus. The Islanders are a team that would put him in a major city.

So Anak is right in that the Isles won't be near the top of Forbes' lists of most profitable NHL teams any time soon, but if you're looking to play in a big city, then it would check that box for Panarin.
Rangers  
PaulN : 1/30/2019 1:40 pm : link
Should be trading Lundqvist if they had a half a brain.
RE: Rangers  
Davisian : 1/30/2019 1:45 pm : link
In comment 14281153 PaulN said:
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Should be trading Lundqvist if they had a half a brain.


This is a take that needs to be thrown in the trash.

He has a full NMC and said he's not waiving it. Nothing the Rangers can do.

RE: Rangers  
Jay on the Island : 1/30/2019 1:46 pm : link
In comment 14281153 PaulN said:
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Should be trading Lundqvist if they had a half a brain.

Nobody is taking that contract. Two years remaining after this one with a $8.5 million dollar cap hit each season is absurd for a 36 year old declining goalie.
RE: Stu  
Stu11 : 1/30/2019 4:22 pm : link
In comment 14280835 Jay on the Island said:
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There is some good news on the horizon. 2018 1st round pick Ty Smith is having a great season in the WHL. He is in his first slump having 0 points in the last 3 games but he still leads the league defensemen in assists and is 2 points behind the league leader in points but he has played 12 fewer games.

D Jeremy Davies is having another great season for Northeastern with 19 points in 22 games. The Devils tried to sign him last offseason but he wanted to go back to school for another year. He should sign this year and he could join Ty Smith in the NHL next season.

Penn State C Aarne Talvitie was having a great freshman season with 16 points in 17 games but he is out for the remainder of the season with a knee injury. Penn State seems to really miss his presence in the line up as they were 11-5-1 with him and are now 3-5-1 without him He also captained the goal medal winning team in the WJC.

And finally In Sweden 2017 2nd round pick Jesper Boqvist has progressed as hoped and he could also be in NJ next season. He is a very talented and fast young center which the Devils desperately need due Zacha's disappointing season. Zacha's likely future is on the 3rd or 4th line.

Yea I agree I defiantely see them building their future on D around Johnson and Davies as soon as next season. Also on top of all the guys you mentioned Fabian Zetterlund seems to have a bright future as well too bad he went down for the rest of the year with a knee injury too. I disagree on Boyle. He is more than just a good 4th liner. I'm sorry but I'd have to see more out of Quennville or Lapin who have been pedestrian at best in their NHL stints and McLeod who has not exactly been lighting worlds on fire with his last 2 seasons on the minors. If we want to see them so bad I'm fine with it but why give them Boyle's spot. You can be as young and fast as you want but what he brings to the table surely can't hurt the team. You don't want a whole line of it but 1 spot is fine. I also probably disagree on Wood. I don't see the return being anything special, he was very solid last year, and yes he had an abysimal start this year but has been playing great the past month. I agree with trading the other guys and I would probably add Andy Green in there too. He has actually been really good this season, probably his best season in the last 3 or 4. I'm sure teams that have been scouting us see it. I don't see him having much more time at this level left. Take advantage of it and deal him.
RE: RE: Rangers  
Metnut : 1/30/2019 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14281163 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14281153 PaulN said:


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Should be trading Lundqvist if they had a half a brain.


Nobody is taking that contract. Two years remaining after this one with a $8.5 million dollar cap hit each season is absurd for a 36 year old declining goalie.


The Rangers could retain all of or a portion of the cap hit (if he was willing to waive his NMC.)
Kevin Paul Dupont  
pjcas18 : 1/31/2019 11:00 am : link
Boston Globe Writer, suggested in a tweet when asked what he'd trade for Kreider (if he were the Bruins) he said:

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Kevin Paul Dupont
‏Verified account @GlobeKPD

First. Carlo. Prospect.


If the Rangers get anything close to that, Kreider should be gone and the fans should pay his uber to the airport.

I like Kreider, but Brandon Carlo is a 22 year old future top 4 D (if not already), he's a much better version of Skjei.

plus a 1st and a prospect?
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