Does Lawrence Tynes deserve a ring of honor spot?

?

He has made huge kicks for us, including 2 HUGE kicks in SB46 stabilizing the game to make it 17-15. My inclination is yes.

Does doing it twice count for something?

.

that's silly

But Sean Landeta might, great punter. Dave Jennings was as well.

question...I follow him on twitter and one thing I know the guy bleeds Blue, he is a Giant to the bone. I say yes he does deserve to at least be considered.

It is ridiculous.

In comment 14281257 PaulN said:

Quote:

It is ridiculous.

Why ridiculous? What would your criteria be for awarding a spot?

In comment 14281250 Rong5611 said:

Quote:

But Sean Landeta might, great punter. Dave Jennings was as well.

I think Dave Jennings is in it already right?

I don't think it's a ridiculous question. He's up there, as far as all-time Giants' kickers, and he DID kick us into TWO Super Bowls, neither one of them in great weather conditions.

He might be a little bit underrated. But Ring of Honor ... I think I would leave him off.

of course he does.

So does Hammer, Jacobs, Diehl, Mark Collins Joe Morris and probably many others

Those spots need to be for players/coaches who played for the team for a significant period of time along with great contributions, etc.

and dont't really think it's close in my opinion. He was a Giant for 6 seasons, and for all argument's sake only played 5 seasons here (only played in 2 games in 08).

Yes he kicked us into both Super Bowls, but I don't think by simply that measure he should be in the RoH. Think I need a little more longevity, especially from a kicker to consider him.

As does Feagles

"We're going to the fucking Super Bowl!!

but I can see it. His career as a Giant certainly wasn't exceptional, but the big moments were about as big as they get.

His kick in lambeau was legendary and made other clutch kicks in the playoffs. At the same time he didn’t have a long career with us relative to other notable kickers, and no pro bowl nominations

I would think the ring of honor is more about a career than a special moment. No desire to put him down but is his career comparable to anyone in the ring of honor?

would turn over in his grave. If he were dead of course.

is as much for the fans as the players who are in it. If enough fans say yes, I would be inclined to change my opinion to YES.

gets a spot.

I'm trying to go through the 07-11 groups in my head now that the question was asked about Tynes.

Eli, Snee, Tuck, Osi, TC are all in or will be in.

There are a lot of ones that really make you think.

Special Teamers

Tynes probably no
DeOssie
Tyree (obviously the SB as well)
Feagles


Starters for both titles

Jacobs probably yes
Bradshaw
Webster

Dynamic during Super Bowl seasons but no longevity.

Nicks
Cruz
JPP

Here's a guy I'm partial to

Rolle

He wasn't around long enough, unfortunately. Also the first 2 kicks in Green Bay took how many collective years off our lives?

In comment 14281316 pjcas18 said:

Quote:

would turn over in his grave. If he were dead of course.

Why do I find this post so spot on and funny?

In comment 14281323 bw in dc said:

Quote:

gets a spot.

Marshall’s NOT on there? Egregious

In comment 14281324 Chris684 said:

Quote:

I'm trying to go through the 07-11 groups in my head now that the question was asked about Tynes. Eli, Snee, Tuck, Osi, TC are all in or will be in. There are a lot of ones that really make you think. Special Teamers Tynes probably no DeOssie Tyree (obviously the SB as well) Feagles Starters for both titles Jacobs probably yes Bradshaw Webster Dynamic during Super Bowl seasons but no longevity. Nicks Cruz JPP Here's a guy I'm partial to Rolle

Well then, Pierce? Just for that one screen breakup against GB in 2008 NFCC..🙂

In comment 14281335 Big Blue '56 said:

Quote:

In comment 14281323 bw in dc said: Quote: gets a spot. Marshall’s NOT on there? Egregious

It's appalling.

I don't think all of those guys should be in the ring. This was just a fun thought-provoking question.

Of the guys I mentioned above, I'd put Jacobs in the ring. I think his NYG career RB standing is high enough when you add in the 2 rings, knocking out Woodson, Merriweather, etc. In many ways his play set the tone for the 2007 team.

Jacobs is deserving IMO.

if not for injury/accident.

In the championship game against the packers didn’t he also miss a couple before he finally hit the winning FG.

Side Story. My son works in a High End place in the Short Holls Mall. If a celebrity comes in they’re not supposed to acknowledge thier noterioty to respect thier privacy. So Tynes comes in and My son recognizes him immediately. The guy purchased something and while he’s closing the sale, Mike says to him, ‘ by the way your my fantasy kicker’. Needless to say Tynes was elated to be acknowledged. When Christmas came he sent Mike a Christmas Card.

I'd lean no, but he was a great Giant so if he got in, I'd be fine with it.

In comment 14281340 Chris684 said:

Quote:

I don't think all of those guys should be in the ring. This was just a fun thought-provoking question. Of the guys I mentioned above, I'd put Jacobs in the ring. I think his NYG career RB standing is high enough when you add in the 2 rings, knocking out Woodson, Merriweather, etc. In many ways his play set the tone for the 2007 team. Jacobs is deserving IMO.

Agree with your sentiments

We have to first decide on the criteria for the Ring of Honor and then make a case by case decision.

Do we really want to induct good but not great players?

Like Snee and Jennings who had long Giant careers. By that measure does Zak DeOssie get in?

he should be grateful for Corey Webster otherwise he'd be infamous in these parts.

but not because the man wasn't clutch in some big moments and super bowls.

Still solidified as the best giants post season kicker.

They don't have many good ones of those though.

I've got no problem with putting a guy in for a great moment. It's the Giants' ring of honor...they can do whatever they want.

Sometimes in sports there are moments (or a single moment) that can eclipse entire careers. If the Giants wanted to retire David Tyree's number and put him in the ring of honor I'd be completely fine with it.

He missed the first two in Green Bay and took weeks off my life.

well, but I never viewed as more than just a good kicker. Nothing that would make me say, hey he deserves special recognition.

And DC Gmen Fan, if you are Lawrence Tynes trying to stroke yourself, sorry dude.

Good Lord. He did his job, after missing twice.

way.

In comment 14281250 Rong5611 said:

Quote:

But Sean Landeta might, great punter. Dave Jennings was as well.

I’ll second this motion.

Ring of Honor? How much room is up there? What level of guys should be up there?

Tynes didn't have a particularly long Giants career, his entire NFL career was good but not great. Nothing against the guy, but aren't there dozens of guys who made a bigger overall contribution to the Giants, just since 1981?

This is one of the thing about stuff like retired numbers, Halls of Fame and Rings of Honor. You need to have more than one way of honoring a guy, so you can give the appropriate honor without having to just say "no." What you want is a system with various levels of honor, maybe bestowed over time.

For example, the Motion Picture Academy, which runs the Oscars, has a pretty good system for its Scientific and Technical Awards. If you invent something that seems important, you can get a certificate after a few years. After a few more years, you can get a plaque for the same accomplishment, recognizing it's turned out to be VERY important. Not all certificates turn into plaques. For the rarest, most consequential inventions and innovations, you can eventually get an "Academy Award of Merit," which is an Oscar statuette. They don't give that out every year -- it's pretty unusual. Nobody's insulted to "only" get a certificate or a plaque.

So some guys get a photo in the museum, some guys get a whole museum bay to themselves, some guys get the Ring of Honor. I dunno.

over a career for something else. It’s typical of our age and culture. Everyone gets a trophy ideology.

That’s what I think of so many of the suggestions and expressions of dismay when naming players not in the “Ring of Honor”.

.... if you put Tynes in, there's a laundry list of about 20 guys that must go in too.

Deserves to be remembered forever, but if he'd made either of the two earlier ones in Lambeau, well...

gains his rightful spot :). I say yes on Tynes.

No

I'd say Sean Landetta. As for those that should be in?

Leonard Marshall, Rodney Hampton, Dave Diehl