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My Positional Rankings (Incl. Sleepers) - Pre-Combine

Anakim : 1/30/2019 3:14 pm
Another boring day at work, so I figured I would make my top-5 positional rankings list with sleepers and notes.

QB:

1) Dwayne Haskins Jr. - Ohio State - I like his short-to-midfield accuracy and the way he sees the field, but I have many concerns about him, including his limited experience. He has tools to work with and room to grow, but, to be honest, I wouldn't take him at 6. I wouldn't take any QB at 6.
2) Drew Lock - Mizzou - the arm talent to make all the throws, but the mental aspect of his game must come around. Boom or bust guy.
3) Brett Rypien - Boise State (a little smaller than you'd like, but he has good mobility, sneaky arm strength and great accuracy/ball placement. Puts a beautiful touch on his throws so they drop right into the basket.).
4) Ryan Finley - NC State - weak arm, but very good accuracy. WCO QB)
5) Daniel Jones - Duke (inconsistent, but there are some tools to work with)

Sleepers: Tyree Jackson - Buffalo (if you loved Josh Allen, you'll love Tyree Jackson. I think he's working with Jordan Palmer, so hopefully he tightens up his release and throwing motion)
Jordan Ta'amu of Ole Miss (he got benched for talented freshman QB Matt Corral, but Ta'amu does have a lot of tools to work with).



RB:


...Shit, this isn't important. We have our RB :D But I do like someone like Qadree Ollison of Pitt or Devin Singletary of FAU to spell Saquon and compete with Gallman.


WR

1) DK Metcalf - Ole Miss (H/W/S speed who suffered a serious neck injury, but I think is a 100%. He has the tools to be a dominant WR in the NFL)
2) N'Keal Harry - Arizona State (will need to answer questions about speed and separation, but you can't deny his physical talent. Big, strong, excellent 50-50 guy.)
3) Riley Ridley - Georgia (underutilized at Georgia, IMO, but he's an excellent route runner, excellent size, good hands, great burst off the LOS)
4) Kelvin Harmon - NC State (size, strength, hands, route-running. We'll see how fast he runs.)
5) Deebo Samuel - South Carolina (explosive. Simply explosive.) Hollywood Brown of Oklahoma also fits this description.

Sleepers: Preston Williams - Colorado State (this year's Antonio Callaway. Transfer from Tennessee. Williams can be a game-breaker, but he can't stay out of trouble)

Emmanuel Hall - Mizzou (he's a burner. Exceptional quickness off the LOS)

Lil'Jordan Humphrey - Texas (another physical mismatch who has off-the-field concerns. He was great this year with Ehlinger and hopefully he answers the speed questions at the Combine. Plus, he has an awesome name.)



TE:

1) TJ Hockenson - Iowa - underutilized but has all the traits to be a top TE in the NFL
2) Noah Fant - Iowa - freakish athleticism and long. Should be fun to see him at the Combine.

Don't really know much about the rest, TBH (though guys like Kaden Smith of Stanford and Irv Smith Jr. of Alabama looked pretty good from the little I've seen of them). A sleeper of mine is Zach Gentry of Michigan. He's a former QB so he's still learning position, but he's a solid blocker and an excellent RZ threat. Why? He's 6'7!

Also, Dawson Knox was vastly underutilized at Ole Miss. So was Foster Moreau at LSU.


OT:

So I'm going to do things a little differently here. I don't really know how to rank these guys. What that means is that the goal for an OT is to not be heard from. That's why I liked Ryan Ramczyk so much. He held steady protection on pass plays and paved the way for his RBs on run plays. Can't ask much more than that. What separates a dominant OT from someone doing his job very well? I don't really know, to be honest.

So the guys who do their jobs well?

Jonah Williams - Alabama - the big thing about him, like it was with Pugh, is the lack of arm length. Other than that, checks all the boxes.

Greg Little - Ole Miss - he had an up-and-down season, but he reminds me a lot of Cam Robinson from a couple of years ago.

Andre "Dilly Dilly" Dillard - Washington State - EXTREMELY sound pass-protector. A huge reason for Gardner Minshew II's great season

Cody Ford - Oklahoma - short in height but wide in girth, he is surprisingly nimble on his field and has the technique down

David Edwards - Wisconsin - had an up and down season, but has the tools to be rock solid on the right side.

Yodny Cajuste - West Virginia - don't challenge him to a boxing match
William Sweet - North Carolina - not a lot of experience, but he was solid from the little I saw of him.

I'm more down on Jawaan Taylor of Florida than others are. I saw a guy who had sloppy technique and who got by with brute power most of the time. That may fly in college, but not in the NFL. Sadly, he actually kind of reminded me of Ereck Flowers coming out of Miami.


3-4 DE/4-3 DT

1) Quinnen Williams - Alabama - best player in the Draft. The most dominant defensive player in college football this season.
2) Ed Oliver Jr. - Houston - it's a risk to take someone his size, but the guy has had a phenomenal career at Houston...and don't mistake him for a one-trick pony. He's very good against the run too.



Edge Rushers

1) Nick Bosa - Ohio State - freakish size, strength, athleticism and speed. He's going to be a really good one.
2) Josh Allen - Kentucky - my third best player in the entire draft. Has elite bend, athleticism and size off the edge)
3) Brian Burns - Florida State (fuck Florida State, but Burns is really good. Excellent length, burst and bend/ He's a bit underweight now, but once he beefs up, look out. And even though he's underweight, he's still damn strong. I've seen him outmuscle OTs.
4) Clelin Ferrell Clemson - solid two-way player. Don't think he'll ever be a star, but he has a very high floor.
5) Jachai Polite - Florida - a bit undersized and doesn't have the length that teams will crave, but he can beat you with power and speed.


Sleepers: Malik Carney - UNC - he was suspended for 4 games for something non behavior-related. But this guy has a ton of talent. 6.5 sacks in 8 games, 9 FF in his career. Very strong against the run. He's the total package.
Shareef Miller - Penn State - had a rivalry going with Haskins when they played, but what got me on board was how he wrecked havoc on Wisconsin's talented O-Line.


ILB:

1) Devin White - LSU - my fourth best player in this draft. He can blitz, cover, bump against the run...he can really do it all. What sets him apart from Roquan Smith are the instincts, but White is definitely a bigger, more well-rounded athlete. I would not hesitate one bit to take him at 6.

2) Devin Bush Jr. - Michigan - undersized, but he's a dog. Speedy. He was the Defensive Player of the Year and the Big 10 Player of the Year.

3) Germaine Pratt - NC State - you know how the Giants have always had a problem covering TEs? Pratt can solve that. Fast with pretty good instincts and a good tackler. Needs to get stronger to take on blockers.

4) Mack Wilson - Alabama - don't like the game tape against the run. He overpursues and doesn't finish his tackles. However, what I do love his his size, athleticism and coverage ability.

5) Drew Lewis - Colorado - athletic, instictive, smart and surprisingly, one hell of a blitzer. A real sleeper.

Sleeper: Don't have one right now.


CB:

1) Byron Murphy Jr. - Washington - reminds me of Denzel Ward from last year. A little undersized, but feisty, competitive, speedy and a ballhawk.
2) Deandre Baker - Georgia - everything I just said about Murphy applies to Baker...except Murphy is faster and has better speed to cover downfield.
3) Greedy Williams - LSU - didn't have a great year, but he has the tools to be a #1 CB. Lots of things to like, but his positive attributes didn't translate to his game on the field, from what I've seen.
4) Rock Ya-Sin - Temple - my only real exposure to him was during Senior Bowl week. Daniel Jeremiah praised him to the sky.
5) Trayvon Mullen - Clemson - Defensive MVP of the national title game against Tua. I like his length.


Sleepers: Michael Jackson - The U - didn't have as good as a season as he had in 2017, but still played well for the most part.
Iman Marshall - USC - had an up-and-down career at USC after so much promise early on, so he's worth taking a gamble on on Day 3 for that reason.



Safeties:

1) Taylor Rapp - Washington - EXCELLENT in the box. He wasn't asked to drop into coverage much from what I've seen, so I don't know how versatile he is, but against the run? You won't find many better.
2) Deionte Thompson - Alabama - terrible game against Clemson, but he had a good year regardless
3) Nas Adderley - Delaware - I thought he was great Senior Bowl week. Definitely opened my eyes. He got three Raiders stickers!
4) Juan Thornhill - Virginia - he absolutely destroyed my 'Canes. Has CB experience, so we know he's rangy and surprisingly, he's a reliable tackler.
5) Marquise Blair - Utah - he can cover, he can pick off balls and he can hit you like a truck. What's not to love?

Sleepers: Chauncey Gardner-Johnson - Florida - can't tackle, but his ball skills, versatility (former CB) and instincts will attract a lot of teams. Reminds me of Malcolm Jenkins.
No  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 1/30/2019 3:18 pm : link
Kyler Murray?
Wow  
OBJRoyal : 1/30/2019 3:24 pm : link
Nice work. Thank you

The Giants should be able to add more talent to the team through the draft again this year. Hopefully all the late end picks can add depth on defense and the OL
RE: No  
Anakim : 1/30/2019 3:28 pm : link
In comment 14281295 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Kyler Murray?


No, I don't think he lasts in the NFL. Fun player, but I don't see him having a long career in the NFL.
Very nice post  
JerseyCityJoe : 1/30/2019 3:45 pm : link
Not to nitpick but if I was picking a Utah defensive back I would have gone with J.Blackmon. He is what you say about Marquise Blair and more. :)
Question for you if you can answer:  
bradshaw44 : 1/30/2019 3:49 pm : link
Would Sam Beal have made your CB list if he was in this draft if all his play from 2017 stayed in line with 2018?
You continue to do excellent work.  
Big Blue '56 : 1/30/2019 3:52 pm : link
Though your opinions, itís still of enormous help to me..Thanks
UW  
Jay in Toronto : 1/30/2019 4:23 pm : link
Obviously I know those guys best.

Did you forget about Guards? UW has two very good ones (safer bets than the OT, IMO).

RB -- Chris James would make my sleeper list; Between # crunch and injuries didn't get enough time on the field, but produced when he did

Where would you rank Edwards and Connelly, their ILBs? Both (especially Edwards) will play on Sunday. I also like OLB Van Ginkel a lot. I expect his stock will rise if invited to the combine; if not he could be a bargain. The other LBs are surer bets, but he has a higher ceiling, IMO.

It's already been decided that we don't need a FB, but I like Ingold a lot.

For 6:  
The_Boss : 1/30/2019 4:25 pm : link
By now, many here know Iím not touching a QB in this draft. I donít like any of the OTís either at that spot. I think 6 is too early for Burns (assumin Allen and Bosa are gone). I think that leaves Oliver, White, or the top CB as our guys to choose from. Agree?
RE: Question for you if you can answer:  
Anakim : 1/30/2019 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14281330 bradshaw44 said:
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Would Sam Beal have made your CB list if he was in this draft if all his play from 2017 stayed in line with 2018?


No idea. I didn't get a chance to watch Beal at Western Michigan given his unusual circumstances.
RE: You continue to do excellent work.  
Anakim : 1/30/2019 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14281332 Big Blue '56 said:
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Though your opinions, itís still of enormous help to me..Thanks



Much appreciated, Bruce. It's all my subjective opinion. I don't watch as many players/games as Sy or Dave Te, but I do enjoy it.
Anakim..great read. I've seen you've mentioned Rypien  
Blue21 : 1/30/2019 4:37 pm : link
a lot as a sleeper pick. Someone you really like. What round(s) do you see him going.I know he seemed to have played well in the East/West game. Have read a lot about him since you keep mentioning him.
RE: Anakim..great read. I've seen you've mentioned Rypien  
Anakim : 1/30/2019 4:47 pm : link
In comment 14281390 Blue21 said:
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a lot as a sleeper pick. Someone you really like. What round(s) do you see him going.I know he seemed to have played well in the East/West game. Have read a lot about him since you keep mentioning him.


Thanks. I think he goes somewhere in the third round.
Good job  
mrvax : 1/30/2019 4:49 pm : link
Anakim.
FS sleeper - Darnell Savage Jr.  
Pete in MD : 1/30/2019 5:12 pm : link
Maryland. Also a poor tackler but great CFer ballhawk. He will probably make it past the third round.
Anak  
idiotsavant : 1/30/2019 5:23 pm : link
Seems like you crunched 4/3 DT 3/4 DL into one category, skipping NT and tweener types, only listing 2.

Why so.
i'd be perfectly fine  
Platos : 1/30/2019 5:29 pm : link
drafting Devin White LB LSU if he's there.

the more i see and read i think #6 could be a perfect spot for us to pick up a stud at a position we've sorely needed since Pierce....hell even with pierce here we still needed LBers. we can't stop the run or cover TE's. it needs to end.

just like last season, none of the QBs available looked like can't miss guys. take an early mid-rounder and see what you got. then do whatever is needed in 2020 to secure one of the other guys.
RE: i'd be perfectly fine  
The_Boss : 1/30/2019 5:40 pm : link
In comment 14281429 Platos said:
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drafting Devin White LB LSU if he's there.

the more i see and read i think #6 could be a perfect spot for us to pick up a stud at a position we've sorely needed since Pierce....hell even with pierce here we still needed LBers. we can't stop the run or cover TE's. it needs to end.

just like last season, none of the QBs available looked like can't miss guys. take an early mid-rounder and see what you got. then do whatever is needed in 2020 to secure one of the other guys.


Enough with the mid round QBís. This team has nothing in the pipeline really at any position group. Using a pick on a developmental QB is a waste.
I keep waiting for the hype train to propel  
rasbutant : 1/30/2019 6:19 pm : link
DK Metcalf Into the top 5 but it hasnít happened yet. Maybe after the combine?

What about his teammate WR Brown?

Anak - Great Post  
Stratman : 1/30/2019 7:05 pm : link
One surprise is that you didn't list Matt Isabella in your WR list. It's been more than proven in the NFL how valuable these fast, quick, precise route running, glue for hands slot guys are. Interested to see him at the Combine. I think he rockets up a lot of people's draft boards.
Agree on that totally  
idiotsavant : 1/30/2019 7:11 pm : link
Especially if they cut on a dime and have a head for open space.

That said, it may be a project for next year.

But I agree generally that the simplest overlooked stat of all on WRs may be number of catches made. So simple it gets overshadowed some years by the old height,weight,40 combo.
Jeepers Anak, you did all this at work?  
baadbill : 1/30/2019 7:36 pm : link
... you gotta find a new job that interests you!
Been looking at RB's too.  
TC : 1/30/2019 7:39 pm : link
Barkley can do it all, but what he isn't is a down hill runner. Gallman is also an excellent RB with a fine skill set, and while he is a down hill runner, his slender build imposes limitations despite being very strong for his build.

Singletary particularly caught my eye for this role, but I think he may go higher in the draft than I would wish the Giants to consider a RB. While not as gifted, Ryquell Armstead of Temple is also a down hill runner and shares some other attributes with Singletary. If he winds up an UDFA, the Giants could do worse than bringing him to camp, unless they're convinced that Penny can also handle that role.
I know many get fed up with comparisons to former Giants' player,  
TC : 1/30/2019 7:46 pm : link
I do too as they're often not very apt. But Ryquell Armstead's running style (Not necessarily his talent level.) reminds me A LOT of Ahmad Bradshaw.


Video: Armstead Highlights - ( New Window )
RE: Anak  
Anakim : 1/30/2019 7:56 pm : link
In comment 14281422 idiotsavant said:
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Seems like you crunched 4/3 DT 3/4 DL into one category, skipping NT and tweener types, only listing 2.

Why so.


Two reasons: 1) because we're in a 3-4 and we arguably are set there for a while with Hill and Tomlinson; and 2) because I believe the point of 3-4 D-Linemen is more to eat blockers than to penetrate and rush the QB.
Good stuff man  
ryanmkeane : 1/30/2019 7:57 pm : link
I think itís White or Haskins for us (if both are there)
RE: I keep waiting for the hype train to propel  
Anakim : 1/30/2019 7:58 pm : link
In comment 14281471 rasbutant said:
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DK Metcalf Into the top 5 but it hasnít happened yet. Maybe after the combine?

What about his teammate WR Brown?


AJ Brown reminds me A LOT of Hakeem Nicks. Haha, it was the first comparison that came to mind.

But yeah, it's the neck injury. I don't know if Metcalf will take part in the Combine, but if he does, he's going to blow it out of the water.
RE: Anak - Great Post  
Anakim : 1/30/2019 8:01 pm : link
In comment 14281496 Stratman said:
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One surprise is that you didn't list Matt Isabella in your WR list. It's been more than proven in the NFL how valuable these fast, quick, precise route running, glue for hands slot guys are. Interested to see him at the Combine. I think he rockets up a lot of people's draft boards.


My only exposure to him was at the Senior Bowl and yeah, Andy Isabella is a nice little player in the mold of Welker, Beasley and Edelman, but there are players like him in every draft and I'm just not one to fawn over guys like him with a somewhat limited ceiling.
Good job Anak  
montanagiant : 1/30/2019 8:11 pm : link
Thanks for doing this
RE: RE: Question for you if you can answer:  
bradshaw44 : 1/30/2019 8:26 pm : link
In comment 14281379 Anakim said:
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In comment 14281330 bradshaw44 said:


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Would Sam Beal have made your CB list if he was in this draft if all his play from 2017 stayed in line with 2018?



No idea. I didn't get a chance to watch Beal at Western Michigan given his unusual circumstances.


Go it. Thanks
*Got  
bradshaw44 : 1/30/2019 8:27 pm : link
It. Thanks.
Great job Anak  
Rjanyg : 1/30/2019 9:45 pm : link
No Montez Sweat? Dude is a beast
No Rashan Gary?  
RobCarpenter : 1/30/2019 10:04 pm : link
I get that he didn't have a great year, but he was injured and his athleticism is off the charts.
RE: Great job Anak  
Anakim : 1/30/2019 10:26 pm : link
In comment 14281628 Rjanyg said:
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No Montez Sweat? Dude is a beast


I like him, but not as much as the other 5 as an ER. The difference? Sweat doesn't have the bend that someone like Burns, who is just as tall, has. Because of that, I like the idea of Sweat's hand in the dirt as a 4-3 DE more than as a 3-4 ER, which is what we need.
RE: No Rashan Gary?  
Anakim : 1/30/2019 10:27 pm : link
In comment 14281642 RobCarpenter said:
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I get that he didn't have a great year, but he was injured and his athleticism is off the charts.


He's an athletic freak, but much like Robert Nkemdiche (who is my comparison to him), I wonder about his motor and why he didn't take more advantage of his incredible physical gifts.
rankings from a shitty youtube clip scout  
Davisian : 1/31/2019 11:24 am : link
and some of you are eating this garbage up.

BBetter than ever...


RE: rankings from a shitty youtube clip scout  
GiantGrit : 1/31/2019 12:26 pm : link
In comment 14282024 Davisian said:
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and some of you are eating this garbage up.

BBetter than ever...



Nothing better than the guy who thinks shit is flying over everyone's head, meanwhile he doesn't realize people are capable of respecting and listening to someones opinion even if they aren't a professional scout.

How weird of someone to post a draft prospect thread on a football forum. The audacity! the horror!
RE: RE: No Rashan Gary?  
RobCarpenter : 1/31/2019 12:34 pm : link
In comment 14281659 Anakim said:
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In comment 14281642 RobCarpenter said:


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I get that he didn't have a great year, but he was injured and his athleticism is off the charts.



He's an athletic freak, but much like Robert Nkemdiche (who is my comparison to him), I wonder about his motor and why he didn't take more advantage of his incredible physical gifts.


He was injured this year. His sophomore season is the tape you want to see.
Not to miller but...  
RinR : 1/31/2019 1:10 pm : link
In comment 14281523 TC said:
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Barkley can do it all, but what he isn't is a down hill runner.


To me, any RB that can take it to the house every time he touches the ball is by definition a down hill runner.

Anakim - thanks for the time and effort pulling this together. Helps alot for non-CFB watchers like myself.
RE: RE: rankings from a shitty youtube clip scout  
Davisian : 1/31/2019 1:15 pm : link
In comment 14282096 GiantGrit said:
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In comment 14282024 Davisian said:


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Nothing better than the guy who thinks shit is flying over everyone's head, meanwhile he doesn't realize people are capable of respecting and listening to someones opinion even if they aren't a professional scout.

How weird of someone to post a draft prospect thread on a football forum. The audacity! the horror!



If you want to swim in that shit, have at it, hoss.

RE: rankings from a shitty youtube clip scout  
Anakim : 1/31/2019 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14282024 Davisian said:
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and some of you are eating this garbage up.

BBetter than ever...



Good to see you, Davidson. We've missed you on the hockey threads. Luckily, it's perfect sweater and zubaz weather.
RE: RE: RE: rankings from a shitty youtube clip scout  
GiantGrit : 1/31/2019 2:56 pm : link
In comment 14282171 Davisian said:
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In comment 14282096 GiantGrit said:


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In comment 14282024 Davisian said:


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Nothing better than the guy who thinks shit is flying over everyone's head, meanwhile he doesn't realize people are capable of respecting and listening to someones opinion even if they aren't a professional scout.

How weird of someone to post a draft prospect thread on a football forum. The audacity! the horror!




If you want to swim in that shit, have at it, hoss.


If you wanna pretend he stated "I'm Mel Kiper's offspring" instead of prefacing his opinion with "i'm bored at work"

have at it, hoss.
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