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Defenderdawg : 1/31/2019 7:54 am


Dunleavy Phil Simms still bitter about sad end with Giants, who treat Eli Manning with kid’s gloves | ‘We bow and kiss’ franchise QBs

Joyce NYP: Eagles star Chris Long hates the idea of Giants swiping Nick Foles


Stapleton The Record: Hall of Famer LaDainian Tomlinson: Saquon Barkley runs like Barry Sanders and me

Rock Newsday: If Giants draft Dwayne Haskins, they will be in the Super Bowl soon, Saquon Barkley's dad says


Lombardo Inside Giants rookie Grant Haley's surreal football journey that might just save his mother's life


Barnwell ESPN: 2018 NFL trade grades: The 30 most impactful of the past 365 days

Barnwell ESPN: Barnwell's Super Bowl LIII preview: What you need to know for Patriots-Rams

Wiener SB Nation: How the Rams and Patriots built the most consistent offensive lines in the NFL

Schefter ESPN: NFL likely to consider judgment challenge with penalty disincentive

Odegard After Trade Demand, Patrick Peterson “Here To Stay” With Cardinals

Cunningham AJC: The Falcons didn’t make a mistake by not drafting Todd Gurley

Shaffer Baltimore Sun: After decades under Ozzie Newsome's wing, Eric DeCosta happy he never left Ravens' nest

Shaffer Baltimore Sun: Ravens notes: DeCosta calls reports of rift with Harbaugh 'not true'; Newsome's new title unclear

Shaffer Baltimore Sun: Why the Ravens' approach to handling Joe Flacco's exit is 'like playing chess'

Parrino NY Upstate: Bills' Heath Farwell will lean on Lorenzo Alexander in 1st season as ST coordinator

Newton ESPN Charlotte: Panthers' Cam Newton says shoulder 'is good' after surgery

Biggs Chicago Tribune: Bears Q& A: Could Cody Parkey be a post-June 1 cut? Would Ryan Pace trade into the 1st round of the draft?

Biggs Chicago Tribune: Rams-Bears comparisons go beyond the hotshot coaches and young QBs. Just look at the daring general managers

Biggs Chicago Tribune: Rookie Roquan Smith's speed and production gave the Bears defense just what it needed

Dehner Cincinnati Enquirer: What does tapping Sean McVay tree get you?

Cabot Cleveland Plain Dealer: Baker Mayfield aiming for Super Bowl LIV, pleased with Kitchens promotion and more

Burns Cleveland Plain Dealer: Why Larry Ogunjobi is important to the Cleveland Browns' defense, and how he can be even better -- Film Room

Hill Fort Worth Star Telegram: Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is having a Super Bowl impact making money with LA Rams

Birkett Detroit Free Press: Detroit Lions' Matt Patricia had rough season, ex-player preaches patience

Birkett Detroit Free Press: LaDainian Tomlinson: Lions Kerryon Johnson reminds me of Curtis Martin

Dougherty Mil JS: Packers no longer can neglect backup QB position

McClain Houston Chronicle: Rams’ two-year ascendance encouraging for Texans

Wilson Houston Chronicle: How QB coach Sean Ryan's departure affects Texans' Deshaun Watson

Wells ESPN Indianapolis: Andrew Luck, Colts will be scary after securing O-line stability

Erickson Indianapolis Star: Reggie Wayne open to returning to coach Colts, thinks team nearly has 'everybody in place'

Rivers/Farmer LA Times: Philip Rivers on Super Bowl: Rams must keep it close early, make Tom Brady double-clutch

Williams ESPN LA: Chargers' free agent Tyrell Williams says he's a No. 1 receiver

Plaschke LA Times: Rams are acting like they haven’t been to the Super Bowl before

Dennis Rams offense readying for Belichick's in-game adjustments

Klein LA Times: Rams' Todd Gurley and Aaron Donald are hoping to make a signature Super Bowl play

DiGiovanna LA Times: Robert Woods’ valuable role for Rams driven by inspiration from his late sister

Mays The Ringer: The Essential Stories of Wade Phillips

Stapleton The Record: Super Bowl LIII: Aaron Donald will look to follow NY Giants' blueprint to beat Tom Brady

Trotter Heel to veteran: The maturing legacy of Suh

Klein LA Times: Aqib Talib: Sean McVay, Bill Belichick are ‘totally different’ but share ability to lead

Jackson Miami Herald: As Dolphins’ plan comes into focus, this is why their fans must change the way they think

Salguero Miami Herald: These are some ways the Miami Dolphins plan to tank in 2019

Beasley Miami Herald: Dolphins’ next play-caller talks offensive philosophy, what he wants in a QB and more

Kilgore Washington Post: Bill Belichick makes Tom Brady study punt coverages. It helps explain the Patriots’ reign

Reiss ESPN Boston: Patriots owner Robert Kraft open to extension for Tom Brady

Hewitt Boston Herald: Sony Michel makes strong impression on former NFL running backs

Daniels Providence Journal: Phillip Dorsett stepped up when needed for Patriots

Reiss ESPN Boston: After 10 surgeries, Malcolm Mitchell still hopes to return to NFL

Princiotti Boston Globe: Rob Gronkowski details the physical toll his body takes

McBride Boston Globe: Dante Scarnecchia is one of the best assistant coaches in the NFL. Here’s why

Duffy Boston Herald: Trent Brown’s Super Bowl appearance with Pats part performance, part destiny

McBride Boston Globe: Patriots foursome works to keep fun in the game

Duffy Boston Herald: Devin McCourty’s uncertain future adds to Super Bowl drama

Duncan Roger Goodell’s comments too little, too late for Saints fans

Kawahara SF Chronicle: Roger Goodell, NFL hope to have Raiders’ stadium resolution ‘soon’

Schneidman SJ Mercury News: How Raiders GM Mike Mayock will approach free agency, draft

Gehlken LV Review Journal: Raiders part with pro personnel director Dane Vandernat

Williams NBC Bay Area: Defense Will Be Priority for Raiders in First Round of Draft

McLane Malcolm Jenkins and Torrey Smith take exception with recent anti-Carson Wentz story

Domowitch Nick Foles' one season with the Rams is something he’d like to forget

Fierro Allentown Morning Call: Evaluating the Eagles: New running back plan will help

Bittner Pittsburgh Post Gazette: JuJu Smith-Schuster thinks Antonio Brown will retire with the Steelers

Johnson NBC Bay Area: 49ers tight end George Kittle ready to learn from Tony Gonzalez's advice

Williams NBC Bay Area: It's Almost Decision Time for 49ers on Armstead

John Clayton ESPN 710 Seattle: Clayton: How Seahawks’ effort to re-sign Fluker, Sweezy impacted by Glowinski extension with Colts

Romano TB Times: Why the Bucs can’t afford Kareem Hunt

Copeland Washington Post: Redskins hire Rob Ryan to coach inside linebackers


GBN: To QB or not to QB


Pflum BBV: 2019 NFL Draft prospect profile: Garrett Bradbury, C, North Carolina State


DiGiovanna LA Times: LaDainian Tomlinson felt the sting of Chargers' playoff loss to Patriots

Stolle Post Bulletin: Duane Benson, NFL player and legislator, dies

“His football career was long by NFL standards. Drafted by the Oakland Raiders, Benson was a linebacker during a nine-year career in the NFL and has the distinction of making the first tackle in Super Bowl II in 1968, on the kickoff.

“I was awed by it,” Benson told the Post-Bulletin about his experience playing in the Super Bowl. “Of course, I was awed by the notion of just getting to play in the NFL.”

Giants Birthdays 1-31

Bill Kimber E/DE UDFA-FSU 1959 NYG 1959-1960 1-31-1936

Kimber was on and off the Giants roster for two seasons. After being waived in 1959 to make room for DT Art Hauser, he signed with the LA Chargers of the new AFL. Fleer even issued a football card with him as a Charger.
He was released then re-signed by the Giants.

Giants Place Katcavage, Gifford On Injured List NEW YORK (AP)-“The New York Giants of the National Football League yesterday placed halfback Frank Gifford and defensive end Jim Katcavage on the injured reserve list and reactivated offensive end Bill Kimber and offensive guaro Bill Crawford. the action requires both Gifford and Katcavage to miss the last. four games of the regular season. Both were announced as out for the season last Monday, Gifford after suffering a deep concussion and Katcavage a broken collarbone in the Giants' 17-0 loss to Philadelphia last Sunday. Gifford, however, had said he hoped to be ready again in time for the Giants' final game, against Cleveland, Dec. 18. Kimber, former Florida State star, has been on the inactive list since halfback Alex Webster was reinstated to the roster after recovering from a leg injury a month ago. Crawford, a rookie from British Columbia University in Canada, has been on the club's taxi squad all season. The Giants went through a long workout at Yankee Stadium yesterday in preparation for Sunday's return battle with the Eagles v at Philadelphia. Injured quarterback Charley Conerly tested his ailing knee again and still could not pivot properly on hand-offs. Coach Jim Lee Howell said there was a chance the 39-year-old quarterback could play some against the Eagles. George Shaw will start at quarterback with Joe Morrison moving to left half in Gifford's place and Alex Webster starting at Morrison's right half post, Howell said.”

In 1960 the first of what world be two back to back losses to the eventual champion Eagles would leave the Giants battered and broken.

Two weeks later after the second loss to the Eagles the Giants took on the winless expansion Cowboys. Kimber have the Giants a good early start:

“New York, coached by Jim Lee Howell, had won the Eastern Conference the previous two years, but the aging and injury-riddled club was 5-3-1 and coming off of back-to-back losses to the Philadelphia Eagles that had assured they would not finish first a third time. 39-year-old QB Charlie Conerly was one of the injured players, and backup George Shaw was behind center against the Cowboys. HB Alex Webster was also out, as was star HB Frank Gifford, who had been finished for the year – and the whole next season – after a noteworthy tackle by LB Chuck Bednarik in the first loss to Philadelphia.

There were 55,033 fans at Yankee Stadium, the smallest home crowd of the year for the Giants on a sunny afternoon. New York scored quickly on its first possession, taking just four plays with Shaw completing a 41-yard pass to end Bill Kimber and then throwing 10 yards to FB Mel Triplett for the touchdown. HB Joe Morrison followed up with a one-yard scoring plunge and the Giants had a 14-0 lead...”

However Dallas rallied:

“However, before the first quarter was over, HB L.G. Dupre (pictured at left) ran in for a five-yard TD to get the Cowboys on the board. Still, Shaw extended New York’s margin in the second quarter as he connected with end Kyle Rote on a 28-yard scoring play.

Dallas continued to fight back. LeBaron, who nearly sat the game out with a rib injury, tossed a pass to Dupre for a 21-yard TD and Fred Cone kicked an 11-yard field goal to narrow the score to 21-17 at halftime.

Pat Summerall posted the only points of the third quarter with a 26-yard field goal that gave the Giants a seven-point lead. The Cowboys knotted things up in the fourth quarter thanks to a 56-yard drive capped by LeBaron throwing again to Dupre for a 23-yard touchdown, followed by Cone’s extra point.

First-year backup QB Lee Grosscup put the Giants back ahead 5:45 into the final period with a 26-yard touchdown pass to end Bob Schnelker. With five minutes to go, Dallas DT Bill Herchman recovered a fumble by Morrison. LeBaron passed to Doran for 32 yards to the New York nine and two plays later connected with Howton for an 11-yard TD. Cone kicked the tying extra point, and that was it. The game ended in a 31-31 draw, the first non-losing game in Dallas franchise history...”

Kimber would return to the AFL, this time to play the the Patriots in 1961..

I don’t agree with this from Colin at all:  
The_Boss : 1/31/2019 8:18 am : link
“Interestingly, the sense one gets talking to NFL people is that Haskins would actually have been the first player off the board at the 2018 draft had been eligible this past spring. At the same time, though, there is also a sense that Haskins would only have been the 4th or 5th rated passer in the loaded 2020 draft if he had stayed in school for his junior campaign next fall.”

In my opinion, the 2018 QB class was better than the projected 2020 class. I don’t think Haskins is a better talent/prospect than Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen, or Allen, as this quote suggests (and I’ve seen plenty of media opinions agreeing). On the flip side, if he decided to wait until 2020, I think Haskins would probably be QB#3 at the very worst.
RE: I don’t agree with this from Colin at all:  
Jarvis : 1/31/2019 10:00 am : link
In comment 14281769 The_Boss said:
“Interestingly, the sense one gets talking to NFL people is that Haskins would actually have been the first player off the board at the 2018 draft had been eligible this past spring. At the same time, though, there is also a sense that Haskins would only have been the 4th or 5th rated passer in the loaded 2020 draft if he had stayed in school for his junior campaign next fall.”

In my opinion, the 2018 QB class was better than the projected 2020 class. I don’t think Haskins is a better talent/prospect than Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen, or Allen, as this quote suggests (and I’ve seen plenty of media opinions agreeing). On the flip side, if he decided to wait until 2020, I think Haskins would probably be QB#3 at the very worst.

I agree with you. There is always the natural obsession with “potential”. The fact is last years class has been overly dissected. Plus we have seen some of their deficiencies because they have played in the NFL for a year now and we have seen them take there lumps. Next years class hasn’t been dissected at all. It is easier to make the assumption that they will be great, but my gut tells me a lot will change between now and next years draft. Haskins would likely fall in the middle of both groups, however until the combine we still won’t really know.
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